About all this. I know nothing about this. I dont know to what chairman nunes was referring but he said it was potentially incidental collection on american citizens. I was not aware of any orders given to disseminate that kind of information. Martha so it is worth pointing out mrs. Rices credibility has been called into question in the past when she accused Sergeant Bergdahl or the benghazi attacks were the result of a video. He served the United States with honor and distinction. Martha was susan rice being forthright when she said she didnt know anything about trump team surveillance. On the latest reporting on what took place in the final days of the Obama Administration and whether they were trying to smear the incoming president adam housley who broke news on the story over the weekend. Adam. You touched on something here at the top about how did rice know to ask for that intelligence to be unmasked. Thats something were still looking into. Its a question were hearing from multiple sources who also tell fox news that the National Security adviser was asked to unmask the names to transition officials. The unmasked names and People Associated with donald trump were sent to the people at the top including deputy National Security adviser ben rhodes. Theyre part of incidental surveillance. When the names of americans are incidentally collected in general theyre supposed to be masked means names are redacted from reports unless its an issue of National Security, an issue of crime or if the persons securitys threatened. But there are loop hopes to unmask the names but americans are supposed to be protect and in this case were not and this comes in the wake of the ellen farkas interview saying this in part. The people on the hill it was named at telling the hill people get as much as information, intelligence as you can before president obama leaves the administration. Meantime, were also told house intelligence chairman devin nunes knew about it before the infamous tweet on wiretapping and he could have seen the logs besides the secure room used in the past to see these things but it had been weeks and wasnt able to access it and went to the white house because there he could protect his source and get the log so it was a twofold reason and as the Obama Administration left office it approved rules to give the nsa broader powers on sharing communications and the ability to share those with 16 other u. S. Intelligence agencies. A lot has come out since friday and we expect more to come. Martha we know after devin nunes went to the white house he expressed reservation in the way he approached bit out you said if he slowrolled he probably frustrated at his ability to see what was being offered to him through those channels. And keep in mind, if you were to go to the agency where your source is likely if youre a congressman and head of the committee youll be known. Martha the person at the nsc first took it to the white house attorney and was told to stop researching it . Can you shed light on that . Eli came out with susan rice and we knew she was the leaker but they came out with it and broke it and thats from his report. The people we talked to some stuff separately. Theyre people also involved in the community and were learning of names being unmasked that didnt normally happen and it set off maybe other light bulbs in peoples minds as they come across it. Martha adam, great reporting. Adam houseley. So the former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and former Trump CampaignNational Security adviser Ann Marie Hart a former white house spokesperson and fox news contributor. Why would susan rice said she didnt know anything about it if sources are saying she requested the unmasking. Im not sure why she said in any given interview. I just saw the interview for the first time minutes ago. What i do know its not unusual for the National Security adviser to request additional question and what i mean is unmasking of an Intelligence Report and doesnt mean she leaked it and we should not equate unmasking with leaking and its not unusual for a National Security adviser to request this type of information. It happens all the time. Ive been in the Intelligence Community and administration and i know its a fairly common practice. Martha its supposed to be for Foreign Service value. She would have had to prove somehow there was value in not only knowing people on one side of the intercept but unmasking so other people in the administration can see the names of the trump Team Individuals or that they were the ones that were being discussed. Have you brennan, clapper and ben rhodes who we remember famously bragged about the echo chamber and how easy it was to put out a message when he wanted to to the press and have it take on a life of its own. I doubt youre going to confirm whether you think ben rhodes is behind this but do you have thoughts on that . What i know is the Intelligence Community is the one who makes the decision when they are asked to unmask someones name if theres enough information if they should do so. Take the white house and susan rice and ben rhodes out of the conversation. If the Intelligence Community professionals decide theres value in unmasking someone theyll grant the requests and we have seen no reports there were partisan political motives and we cant assume that unless theres evidence to back that up. Martha what we do know is there was a converted effort from doj and other areas to lower the bar so more people would have access to this information, correct, pete . It really is. The whole scenario is amazing to me now. It was only two weeks ago we had mike rodgers from the nsa telling the House Intelligence Committee how important and the strict guidelines they had in place to make sure americans were not unmasked. Those who were caught in incidental collection. One through the scenario here. Number one, its perfectly logical to have americans collected inadvertently collect as were collecting intelligence. The second question is though how does the stuff on the Trump Administration actually make it to the white house . What is the National Security purpose as to why our National Security adviser and others need to see this information . What were the National Security implications of this . Then the unmasking, then spreading it across 17, 16 intelligence agencies to make sure the information was preserved. I think what youll find and what is of concern here is that the unmasking reached unprecedented proportions as we started getting closer to the campaign and as we started getting closer to the inauguration of President Trump. Thats what youre going to find. Marie, if you go to the extent of unmasking, would that intelligence be naturally shared with the president . Would he be in the loop on that . It depends martha. Its a case by case situation. Martha let the jump in, if the unmanaging has to do with the incoming president of the United States and the various entities involved can lower the bar so everybody can see it dont you imagine the president would be in that circle or no . I can tell you the president was kept up to speed on the investigation that happened over the fall about russian interference in the election. We have to remember its not really a conversation about unmasking. Its a conversation in the broader sense about russian interference and whether americans got picked up on collection about russia. So yes, the president obviously would be kept up to speed on that larger investigation. Martha though weve been told what devin nunes saw has nothing to do with russia. Final thought, pete, and then we have to go. What youll find is this is what people on the left and right were most worried about from 2001 and 2009. Big data, Big Government creating an opportunity for massive abuse. And it appears that may be what were starting the road were starting to go down and that has huge implications for our Intelligence Community moving down the road. All right. Thank you, both for being here. Well see you later. Also breaks this evening, fbi director comey finds hes under the microscope. We have new questions about the potential involve many with the british official who put together the all right on donald trump. Well be back with more. 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Mccabe is the fbis deb out Deputy Director and the charges are laid out to director james comey. It points out mccabe is already under investigation from the fbi Inspector General in his role in the Hillary Clinton email investigation and his wife was running for the Virginia State senate in 2015 received 750,000 in donations by a friend of Hillary Clinton and rights while he recused himself from public Corruption Cases in virginia he failed to recuse himself from the clinton email investigation despite the appearance of a conflict created by his wifes campaign accepting 700,000 from a close clinton associate during the investigation. Grassleys letter then turns to the trumprussia investigation and in particular a discussion within the fbi about whether the pay former british spy that drew up a dossier that had information on mr. Trump that could embarrass him. Mr. Grassley rights theres more conflict of interest questions if he was involved in approving or establish the reported arrangement with mr. Steele and they should know if they counted on funded to justify an investigation of the republican president ial campaign. Martha, the letter then lays out a dozen questions specifically regarding Andrew Mccabes role of President Trump, his associates and russian officials. The letter sent to director comey last tuesday and senator grassleys office tells us theyve not yet received a reply from director comey. Martha thank you very much. Joining us is Ari Fleischer and you must be in a busy place. Theres a lot going on. Zach, let me start with you. What did you make of the inquiry on the questions . Its an attempt once again for the republicans to muddy the waters. They want to talk about everything but the substance and the potential collusion between russians and the trump associates. Martha it seems at this moment and theres a lot more to be told in this story theres two sides to this story, the one were talking now and the one you bring up which is whether or not there was collusion. We know there was russian intervention and certainly attempts to intervene in what people thought about the process what was going on through the emai emails leaked but ari, would it be unusual in the deputy direct are was reaching out in some way to this former intelligence official from britain that put together this dossier and there may have been offers to pay him for information against donald trump . It struck me as odd having read that socalled dossier and buzz feed are the only ones with the temmerity to public it and to pay for anything like that thats what bother med the most with the judgment or fbi they should be pay taxpayers dollars. I think on the broad point people should not leap to conclusions on donald trump and collusion with russia. Nobody has those facts. Let it be investigate and nobody knowing knows anything about mccabe. What i have always tried to do in washington is step back instead of leaping forward when it comes to these types of allegations. Let people do their work, get the answers and wait. Martha when you look back because you have to go down every avenue and figure it out on all sides. When you look back at Andrew Mccabe the deputy fbi director the person in question in this particular part of it, with the clinton investigation of emails his wife received 700,000 for her campaign from terry mcauliffe. That was over in regards to the emails with clinton before it began but still as a politician said about this, zach, you never really forget when someone gives you half a million. Its a nice piece of change. Should he have recused himself and does that throw his credibility into question . Is the insinuation the phish was not hard enough on hill clin chin or theyre in the tank for the democrats . Because as a member of the Clinton Campaign i can assure you thats not the case. The letter director comey sent before the election may have tanked the entire campaign in and of itself. I dont totally understand the insinuations regarding mccabe. But look, well make you a deal, republicans are not crazy about the number two from the fbi, mccabe. Democrats are not a big fans of the number two at the department of justice, rod rosenstein. Lets get both out of the picture and have a special prosecutor. That will take care of both sides. Martha ari . Goodness, gracious the last thing we need is special prosecut prosecutors. I mean that. I have faith the committees and fbi can do their job and the last thing you want in washington, d. C. With the noise and finger pointing is make it worse by appointing a special prosecutor which just leads to back and forth charge and deeper allegations of scandal when maybe theres none at all. Let people do their jobs. 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