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FOXNEWSW Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo February 15, 2015

Out the winner in the deal, russia or the u. S. . And the ports on the west coast shocking our economy with a big black eye. Now the president is getting involved. Our panel and i look ahead on sunday morning futures. Well, the Iraqi Military put to the test, holding off isis militants at the al assad air base, where some 300 u. S. Marines have been training those iraqi soldiers. Meanwhile, here in the u. S. Congress is debating the aumf, that is the authorization for military force allowing president ial war powers to go after isis. Congressman peter king is part of the committee on Homeland Security, where he trains the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence. Good to have you on the program, welcome back. Maria, good to be with you, thank you. First, lets talk about this authorization for military work that the president is looking for. How will you vote, what are you hearing from your colleagues in congress . Maria, i would have to vote against the authorization the way its written now by the president. I would support an authorization, which gave the president all the power that is needed, but in this case ive never heard this before, the president is sending requests to congress to cut back on his power. It only covers the next three years, it basically puts ill restrictions on the Ground Troops and as commander in chief, the president should have the authority, he does have the authority, to use all the force he wants. Why would he Want Congress to limit that . Again, this to me is a classic example of this president being reluctant to use power and sends the wrong signal to our allies who wonder why wed be reluctant to use the power, and secondly, encourages the enemy. Put a threeyear time limit on it, basically said were not going to use Ground Troops. I guess only in the most extreme circumstances. No president should put himself in that position, and we shouldnt put our u. S. Military in that position. Are you saying that the president is asking for restrictions on what is already in place which went into effect after the 9 11 attacks . Yes, under the authorization that went into effect back in 2001, the president basically has authority to do whatever he has to as commander in chief. Now hes asking for restrictions on that, and now hes doing it under the guise of saying he wants authorization to go forward, but he already has that. Listen, i see the importance of Getting Congress to be with him as far as the authorization, but if you go to do that, dont take away power that he has. Again, if its important enough for americans to commit militarily then its important enough for the president to have the authority and power to do what has to be done. If it turns out Ground Troops are not necessary, fine, but the fact is the president should always have that prerogative and the enemy should always have the fear we are going to use them. You know, its just extraordinary, this lack of enthusiasm around this most recent authorization. Stay with us, congressman, we want to talk to you about a lot this morning to get to with the breaking news that we were talking about all weekend. But first, to better understand the president s aumf in the war against isis lets compare it to the 2004 authorization. Eric shaun with that angle. Good morning to you. Good morning, maria, and good morning everyone. It goes by those initials, aumf, standing for authorization for use of force against terrorists. Who could be against that . Well, it turns out president obama is facing opposition from both sides. The resolution we submitted today does not call for the deployment of the u. S. Ground combat forces to iraq or syria. It is not the authorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. No socalled boots on the ground, he vows but a plan to face isis for the next three years, as 3,000 u. S. Forces are already in iraq but will it work . The aumf calls for a limited role for u. S. Troops, allowing for the deployment of special Operations Forces such as coordinating to air strike targets on the ground, quote enduring offensive combat operations and reveals the 2002 aumf against iraq, but as congressman king noted, not the broad based authorization that began the war in afghanistan. Im concerned about the breadth and vagueness of the ground troop of the ground troop language, the limitation against enduring offensive Ground Combat operations suggesting that all defensive Ground Combat operations are okay. Im concerned that all hes really talking about is containment over a long period of time, and megan, i dont think we can really toy with isis over a long period of time. I think we need to take them out. Well, some o points fear the measure could lead to endless wars others worry its not enough. The president needs to have an overarching strategy to deal with this growing terrorist threat. He has yet to do that. He continues to look at this as a counterterrorism effort, when, in fact theres a war under way. So congress debates, officials fear iraqs Anbar Province could potentially fall to isis, but president obama is optimistic that congress will eventually approve his request before its too late. Maria . All right eric, thank you so much. Eric shaun. More now with congressman peter king. Congressman, i think its really interesting what you just said, you would have to vote no for this authorization. Your colleague senator corker also says hes in no rush. Why is this such a lack of enthusiasm around this . Well my reluctance is because the president is putting restrictions. I think it would make the situation worse and on the other hand you have democrats, also some of the isolationists in the republican party, who dont want us engaged in a ground war no matter what. Im just saying, if youre going to go to war and this is a war you cannot be tying the hands of the president and the president should certainly not be tying his own hands. He should have the prerogative to do whatever has to be done to win and protect american troops, and if that includes Ground Troops issue he should do it. The president said he doesnt want another ground war like what happened in iraq or afghanistan. No one really foresees that happening, but that doesnt mean you would not need the use of Ground Troops at some time, and if the enemy knows were not going to use them and also knows this expires in three years they can calibrate accordingly. Thats what happened in afghanistan. He said he was going to increase troops, there was a surge of i think, 35,000 troops in afghanistan, but he gave the exact date when the troops were going to be pulled out, so the enemy was able to adjust to that. This is a president not showing leadership and whats happening now, hes losing republicans that feel its restricting military power and losing liberal democrats who feel its going to be an endless war. Thats what happens when you have a president thats so ambivalent and so circumspect about what hes doing as the commander in chief. Congressman, let me get into the news of the day, that, of course, more terrorist attacks in the world today. Now denmark, unfortunately, getting hit today. Tell us what you can in terms of the situation in denmark right now and whether or not we are seeing really a galvanizing of this group. Is all of this connected to isis . I think we have to assume it is. All the information is not in but the fact is there was a cartoonist there, the fact is heavy weapons were used. This certainly shows a direct connection to radical islam. Isis has been foremost in carrying out these type of operations. Whether its isis or al qaeda or al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or islamist sympathizers, the fact is, the islamist terrorist movement is fighting western civilization. We have to be on our guard, especially here in the United States. This is an indication. In denmark, they have heavy security there to protect the people inside the building, but apparently, this was an automatic weapon fired from outside, and it shows that they will basically do anything they have to whether its one person, two people, a larger number, isis in particular has been able to attract people on the periphery, people who are willing to carry out these, you know, oneman, oneperson operations. So, again whether its isis itself, or just a islamic terrorist, it shows that we have to be on our guard, especially when it involves Homeland Security in places like new york or washington, d. C. Do you have any new information about the military base where u. S. Troops are training iraqi soldiers and, of course, isis basically knocking at their doors . It was a failed attempt at the end of the day, correct . Right. It was failed but i think the administration seems to be taking this too casually at least as far as the public is concerned. When you have the enemy only seven and a half or nine miles away from our base or the al assad base and theres 300 marines there, i would want a situation where a largescale attack is carried out. To me thats another example we should be able to go on offense. If we can send people out there and kill them before they come in, i dont like the idea americans playing defense, just being there at the air base and fighting them off when they come in. Go out and get them before they can come in. Whether it involves more air support, whether it involves sending out Commander Operations or special forces to get them to me thats a better military operation rather than hoping we can stop it when they get to the base. All right congressman. We are going to be talking with the former ambassador to saudi arabia coming up about iran and of course, you have your upcoming meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu netanyahu. Congressman, thanks very much for your time today. Well see you soon. Some have said the war against isis wont be won until our middle eastern allies dedicate themselves. We have thoughts on that next. Follow me on twitter, tell us what youd like to hear from ambassador jordan coming up. Im Maria Bartiromo and that would be Maria Bartiromo on twitter, sundayfutures on twitter. Stay with us. When the moments spontaneous, why pause to take a pill . Or stop to find a bathroom . Cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. 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We know obviously, whats going on in terms of jordan stepping up the fight after the pilot was murdered. Who would you say is most engaged against isis within the middle east . Right now i think its the jordanians flying a lot of combat air missions. Also the United Arab Emirates have flown a fair number themselves, although they stopped those flights in december when the americans failed to provide adequate search and rescue resources and simply kept our resources based in kuwait. That has now changed so the emirates are back engaged in the air fight but we still dont have boots on the ground. The other thing i think is important to realize is the saudis are probably in the cross hairs of isis more than any other country in the middle east. Isis declared they want to take over the holy cities of mecca and medina and remove the saudi royal families so this is a fight to the death as far as the saudis are concerned and its important for them to realize that. Do you think the saudis will become more involved militarily as a result of that . What is it going to take to get our arab allies engaged . I think they have to have a sense of real desperate threat againsts themselves, against their very existence. We saw this, for example, when i was ambassador in 2003, after 9 11 the saudis were helpful in fighting al qaeda and terrorism but it really took the bondings that occurred in riad in 2003 to get them animated and aggressive in going after al qaeda. After two or three years they actually got rid of al qaeda in saudi arabia and expelled most of them. So they are capable of doing it, but they have to have a sense of urgency and i dont think weve quite got that yet. But you think that sense of urgency is coming, given what you just said about the saudis in the cross hairs. I think they are going to have to realize that and i think that will come. I also think our administration has to step it up in terms of training, in terms of providing our resources and projecting our own sense of urgency, which i also have not seen. Meanwhile, the talks with iran apparently continuing over a nuclear agreement. Lets talk about the letter that was sent to president obama, and what that letter says about the u. S. And iran negotiating. Well, i think there is some room for negotiation here. There is the hope of course, that some sort of deal can be made, which limits irans breakout capacity to proper inspections and proper notice. But the saudis are deathly afraid were going to make a bad deal with the iranians that iran will have a Massive Nuclear capacity to threaten the saudis and the rest of the neighborhood. Thats what everyone is worried about. Whats your sense of a deal the u. S. May make with iran . Well, its hard to know right now, because theres not been a lot of transparency but if the iranians can be literally limited to the kind of limits that we see with japan for example, japan has a nuclear program, but they cant really break it out into a weaponized military program without about eight or nine months work on that program. If the iranians are limited to breakout capacity, where theyll take eight or nine months after we take notice of it perhaps thats a deal that can be made, but to do that youve got to have very robust inspections, very transparent means of finding out exactly what they are up to, and theyve still been resistant in providing that. Thats an area we have to have concern about. Why hasnt been been transparency around these talks . Obviously, congress has been pushing to be involved and see exactly what is going on in terms of these talks with the iranians, and by the way, should we be assuming that the u. S. Is working with iran against isis . I dont know that were working directly with iran against isis. We do have a common interest. The administration has said were not directly cooperating with them, but clearly there is a means of quietly making things happen in parallel. For example were making overflies into syria. The syrians have, obviously, not tried to shoot down any of our planes. They have tacitly agreed we can make those overflights. That has to come with iranian approval, as well. I do think theres some of that going on here. But we really have going to have to find a better way to understand exactly where iran is in terms of their development of their program and a very robust inspection regime if were able to make a deal at all. Well be watching this very very important subject. Thank you very much for your time today, ambassador Robert Jordan joining us. The devil is certainly in the details, unemployment is down, but there are wages and inflation and deflation. 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