>> megyn: a lot of nice feedback on twitter on our segment about george h.w. bush and updated book. follow me on twitter at megyn kelly. meantime here is shepard. >> shepard: news begins anew on "studio b." both grilled jody areas about how she stabbed her ex-boyfriend dozens of times, shot him and slit his throat from ear to ear. now the jury goats ask questions. only three states have this happen most all the time. the details on that as court is about to come back from a lunch break and we will take you live there. plus, a winter storm knocking out power to nearly 200,000 homes and businesses. seems virginia is getting the worse of it. while the snow quester seems to be a bust in the d.c. the city basically shut down anyway. that's coming up. and doctors tell us that the former mary tyler show star valerie harp has only a few months to live. that's all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." but first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, the woman accused of stabbing her ex-boyfriend, shooting him and soliciting his throat is now set to face questions from the jurors just moments from now. arizona is one of but a handful of states that requires jury members to ask questions of witnesses or requires the court to allow it. remember, prosecutors say she planned that deadly attack? a jealous rage. areas claims she shot her exin self-defense and that she doesn't even remember stabbing him or taking the knife to his throat. jodi areas also admitted that she lied to the police, lied to friends, lied to her family lied, in fact, to everybody. and after 15 days on the stand, giving testimony often far too graphic for this program, this could be one of her final chances to convince the jurors that she has not been lying to them. we have team fox coverage this hour. alicia acuna first live for us out in our denver newsroom. the judge says the jurors submitted like 100 questions. >> that's right, shep. and from our count, after objections, about 90 questions will probably be asked. now, these objections were done in open court this morning. but for most of the day, this is pretty much all that we he have seen. if you take a look here. this would be attorneys from both sides in silent conference, figuring out what will and will not be included in a list of jury inquiries. all involved being careful not to reveal the questions referring to them only by number. we have heard references to money, surgery, and a detective. but that's it. now, once areas is on the stand, it will be the judge who actually asks her the questions. shep? >> shepard: of course, the jury might ask her about her memory issues. she has had a few. >> yes. and she has testified that she has had a memory problem since about age 14. she says, whenever someone was yelling at her or whenever she was stressed. now, the prosecution has actually gone after her on this issue, spent a lot of time on areas' seemingly amazing ability to have excellent recall of certain situations but then not being able to remember are shooting travis alexander, stabbing him and slashing his throat. areas explained in redirect to her attorney now she is putting it together logically, that's a quote from what she knows happened. >> do you have any memory of slashing mr. alexander's throat? >> no. >> when you were asked on on cross-examination if did you that, do you recall telling us that you did? >> yes. >> was that a recollection or logical assumption on your part? >> it was definitely not a recollection, so it was just based on the facts that i i knew. >> now, in terms of how long this q and a will go with the juror questions, shep, it really depends on arias and reminder this will be day 16 with her on the stand. >> let's bring in ann bremner now. she an attorney and will help us break this down. what do you expect this afternoon? >> we will hear a lot of different questions put to her by the judge. the fact of the matter is there are so many. some may be duplications and then second we're going to basically see her having to look at the jurors. she has been looking at them the whole time, which is great for a defendant to do or any witness. then she is going to have to look at them and an the questions they want. when the detective was questioned there were questions from the jurors that asked things about other suspects and maybe inadequate investigation. so, we will see things, i think, like that. things that were touched on in 15 days of testimony. seems you would think they covered everything. >> shepard: you would think. are there things to which jurors paid a lot of attention or a time when jurors seemed less than interested? that's for alicia, ann. >> okay, thanks. that's really difficult to know, shep, exactly what has caught their attention for than others. we do know that the attorneys both had time this morning to take a look at all of these questions. so the defense team had about an hour and a half with those questions, presumably, jodi arias has already seen these questions. she has had time to prepare. as you know, as you have seen, she receives the question from whatever attorney is asking her and then she turns to the jurors and looks at them. she does it like this and like this. she is attempting to make some sort of connection there. well, there will be a lot revealed in whatever questions are asked today. shep? >> shepard: you know, like half the states allow for questions from jurors. it's up to the judge's discretion and 99% the time it doesn't happen. in three states this is common practice. how does it change the system when jurors get to ask questions? >> it changes it immeasurablably. in my state it's discretionary. it changed during my time in practice. i tended not to like it because i think jurors shouldn't have made up their minds as they have gone along with the presumption of innocence. and the questions that they ask, i mean, they are not the lawyers in the case. it's kind of a deviation from our system that has been the same, you know, for over 100 years. it also, i think, drags down the trial in terms of time. and so, you know, a lot of judges don't give the question ability to jurors out here. i don't know why it's mandatory in three states but it is. >> shepard: it is, including in this one. alicia, after the questions come from the jury, is there recross or redirect or is that it for this witness, alicia? >> from what we understand, attorneys will likely have the opportunity to object to these answers. whether or not there will be a recross, reexamination and redirect. we're still waiting to see. we have been told maybe a 50/50 chance whether or not this will happen. so that, of course, will mean even more days likely for jodi arias on the stand. thank you both. appreciate it some degree of live coverage of this. monitoring all developments in the case. as you can see the players are just coming back after a lunch break there. updates live as they happen. first a fox extreme weather alert. a live look at a tractor-trailer that's still hanging over maryland's bay bring. you may have seen some of this in the last hour. first responders say heavy winds pushed that truck against the guardrail and the driver suffered only minor injuries. officials have closed the bridge as they work to get the truck off there as you might imagine. this late winter storm bearing down on the i-95 corridor now and cut power to at least 200,000 people. sparked hundreds of cancelled flights and sparked schools to call it a snow day. here is how what it looked like at the washington earlier. washington shuts down when you talk about snow. they haven't gotten that much snow. a little bit is a lot in that town. national weather service initially reported it could dump up to 10 inches in d.c. forced the feds to shut down' offices around the capitol. recently lowered the first alert forecast for the capitol. much different parish in virginia. according to state police there, officers have reported to snow related clashes in 8 hours. the virginia governor bob mcdonnell today declared a state of emergency and called for residents to stay home. full report and live report coming up in this hour. soon will be able finally long last and thank goodness to take your pocket knife on board the plane. don't even think about bringing bottled water. take those shoes off by golly. coming up, the new security rules that some flight attendants say could put the people on the planes in danger. plus, the dow still climbing after hitting that all-time high yesterday. how long can this last? gerri willis is here to break it all down. but, first, republican senators protesting the nomination of the president's pick for cia director. it started this morning with senator rand paul. a live look on the floor. senator paul has taken a very short break. but he is coming back, we're told for hours more to come. it's an old fashioned filibuster, something we haven't seen in the month of sunday. they are filibustering the president's pick of cia director john brennan. but this is really about drones and whether droning is right of american citizens on american soil. it has come to that, ladies and gentlemen. should your government be allowed by memo to kill you if somebody somewhere thinks well, you should be killed? student. stay tuned. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. >> shepard: don't count out wall street it's on a tear downtown. dow is on track for the second day in a row. up 57 points on the session. four tenths of a percent. 14311. nobody has ever seen numbers like that on that board, not ever. some perspective on how much the dow has soared. if you put 2009 when the dow hit the bottom at the end of the great recession you would have raufly $2,400 from stock gains and dividends. wow. gerri willis from the biz with us. seems traders were encouraged by that report that employers added more jobs last month. >> 189,000 jobs. private sector not government. numbers out from adp. we like to see that revisions of the previous month up to 215,000 for january. that's good news. now, this all comes ahead of friday's big labor report, which everybody will be watching. expectations at the top level will stay at 7.9%. 7.9% unemployment. which is not pretty. expectations that total jobs will grow 160,000. you will probably see some government jobs lost there. so, some good news out of the jobs market. we will get the big kahuna on friday. >> what are the you call them the smart people downtown. what are they saying about how long they think this might last? >> they don't know. >> shepard: i figure they are saying something. >> it's a guess though. what's so interesting about this is that you were talking about how much money you would make if you had put money in at the bottom, right? >> um-huh. the relate is that most americans have not done that stocks have doubled over four years. but individual investigators have pulled half a trillion dollars out of the markets during that time. now, the expectation is that it could get back in here, right? they will be encouraged by what they're seeing and buy at the top which is what we typically do, let's face it that could propel another leg up in the market. that's what some people are saying there are lots of strategists out there though who think this rally is long in the tooth. let's face it, actually four years old, pleasant. >> what do you mean four years old? >> this current boom. the bull market that we have been seeing. >> shepard: let's bring another voice into the discussion rick newman, also an author the book "rebounders, how winners pivot from set back to success." a lot of people are probably making that pivot right now. >> i could argue with gerri and say oh, no, this bull market is going to continue for another two or three years which there are some analysts out there saying that. you have got to kind of scratch your head because the economy is doing okay. it just doesn't seem to be doing well enough to justify the gains we are seeing on the stock market. >> shepard: businesses are, aren't they? >> big companies are. and there is a disconnect between big companies and the people who work for them or who used to work for them. keep in mind the big companies represented by indexes like the dow or the s&p 500, these days they get about 40% of their revenue from overseas. they are able to tap into the fast-growing chinese market helps them help profits. that doesn't necessarily help the u.s. economy. many of those profits stay overseas. >> shepard: you don't have to be in touch with all of that to understand that you used to do things with the help of people. and now you do things with the help of machines. our contact with people has been so limited over the last five years. that's jobs. >> think about it we have the world's biggest economy with 5% of the world's population. think about that. >> shepard: how can that sustain? >> we are so productive. it's in part because of the machines. just to argue a little bit with you. look, big companies are doing great. small companies are doing horribly. they are not getting the capital they need to expand. they are not adding jobs. and these are the people that hire america. >> shepard: when are we going to -- when is there going to be a push or will there be a push to take these big banks and break them up so they work more for the people instead of just for themselves? >> i think it's over. we have seen all the push there is going to be for the most part banks. we just went through humongous dodd frank in 2010. we are going to stick with it. >> if they blow up again, they are going to be on the hook again. we will bail them out again. it's going to be on our backs. i think that's unacceptable. at some point you have to say to yourself how much can the american people afford when it comes to these institutions. >> shepard: when those banks went down to nothing on the stock market, you're sure they are going to fail. they have to break them up so people didn't get. in those who got in on bank of america and chase. >> huge gains. >> shepard: if you have ridden it the whole way. i can'ting imagine hid reiden this far. >> in part are the financials. >> shepard: there are a lot of fuel on capitol hill today and rand paul is bringing a lot of it. you guys have been seeing. this rand paul filibustering on the floor. he just got back to the floor. listen to him. >> really both parties audit to be able to abide by such a basic principle that i can't imagine we couldn't unite by. this i think you have gone a long way to getting these answers. i guess what still disappoints me about the whole thing is is that it takes so much work to get people to say they are going to obey the law. it takes so much work to get the administration to admit that they will adhere to the constitution. it should be a much simpler process. >> shepard: there are very real questions about whether this memo about which i'm sure you have heard something is -- falls under the guidelines of the constitution. whether they are able as a government to decide what americans need to be droned, killed, including here on american soil. back up a couple of years, maybe, and consider that that question could even be brought up, that the government could kill you with no charges, no lawyer, no trial, no nothing, just some bird that flies around, somebody on a joy stick controlling it. and kill you. that's what they're talking about. you can do that, government? 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>> shepard: steve harrigan in caracas. notice the time stamp in the upper screen there. 3:53. changed the time zone, made it a half hour later than new york. p.j. crowley joins us now. currently a professor of practice at the george washington university in d.c. p.j., i feel like a the love americans are just weighing up to the fact that so many around the world are praising this man and think he did a lot of great stuff for poor people in venezuela despite the, i don't know, maybe the known quantity of the el diablo speech at the united nations. >> sure. and chavez defined himself within venezuela as a populist, a man of the people. did he a great deal of particularly for the poor in venezuela. outside of venezuela, he was the tormenter in chief of the united states. he enjoyed doing that, but i am not sure it really got venezuela very far in terms of its standing around the world. >> shepard: i'm sure that it didn't. i'm guessing that people are also reading, if they are interested in this topic, that much of the government has been turned over to narcotraffickers and they have enormous problems in that extremely oil rich nation. >> absolutely. you know, chavez was complicit in aiding and abetting various guerrilla movements that did a lot of damage, for example, in colombia. and was very complicit with the movement of drugs through cartels throughout the region. so, and that's why the choice in the post chavez era will be very, very important. whether it's nicholas madeiro and nicholas on the other does venezuela move in the general direction spin or does it try to move in a more constructive direction? he wool be watching very carefully. >> shepard: i wonder if there are great opportunities for venezuelans here? they certainly have the natural resources and the location and the rest. they could become something quite special. >> well, yes, shep, you are right. by the same token. chavez, while a massive the people, was an authoritarian leader. aauthoritarians leaf weak institutions behind when they go. i think there is going to be a great deal of political splintering on the opposition side and the government side. i think in the short-term it's going to be a pretty much of a muddle for venezuela before they just decide in what direction they are going to move. >> shepard: p.j. crowley live with us. thanks. >> all right, shepard. >> shepard: jodi air yas accused -- her jury gets to ask her questions. we will get there for that staggering new numbers on just how many men, women, and children have run from their homeland in the two years since the civil war began there. that's coming up as we approach the bottom of the hour and the top of the news on this wednesday "studio b." lobsterfest is the king of all promotions. there's nothing like our grilled lobster and lobster tacos. the bar harbor bake is really worth trying. 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[ male announcer ] get adt installed for just $99. and ask about adt pulse, advanced home management here today. adt. always there. >> shepard: i'm shepard smith. this is "studio b." it's the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news. continuing coverage of the jodi arias murder trial. you are looking live in the courtroom where the woman is on the stand who admits she brutally killed her ex-boyfriend. she is now set to face questions from jury members. with us now former prosecutor nicole gee board and criminal defense attorney monica lindstrom. i should let you know at home they are having technical difficulties inside the courtroom. they are having problems with their microphones. the process of reading off these juror questions and having her respond to them has not yet begun according to our people in the courtroom but we are expecting that it will shortly. nicole, what are you expecting here? >> well, you know, this is a free for all, really. this is an interesting way of doing things because we really don't know what kinds of questions these jurors are going to ask and i'm sure the foreigners for ms. arias are wondering exactly the same thing. this could make or break her position. >> shepard: monica, what would you want to ask her? >> i would want to ask more details about her trip to arizona, why she was coming out exactly. what was it that made her change her mind to come. maybe more details about the gas cans and how she paid for things. even though she had excuses or justifications for everything. i think there were some dots that weren't quite connected that's where the jury is going to come in. i have been in the courtroom and when jurors have questions they put them in the basket. it seemed like most of their questions came towards the end of the time with jodi arias. that's when we started getting into the premeditation, the road trip and the actual killing of travis alexander. >> shepard: for viewers that don't know the road trip, the question was did you target him? did you go chase after him to kill him? she said no but really the reasons for the road trip, i'm not sure they have been fully explained. are you, nicole? >> i'm not either. and i think it will be interesting to see where the jurors' attention has gone to and this is something that we will maybe know a little bit more about once we hear these questions. >> shepard: you know, monica, as unusual as this is for most of us who have been watching trials for decades. i'm guessing from a juror's perspective. if you have entered questions, you might be paying a little more attention. i mean, this is specifically from you, this might be a very crucial part of all of this proceeding. >> that's right. and arizona is great because we're one of the three states that actually allow jurors to ask questions. and as a prosecutor, when i would get these questions, i would think great, now i can connect any dots or clear up any mistakes that i might have made and give them more answers. as a defense attorney, i look at those questions and go that's awesome because maybe they are confused and that's really really good for my client. so you can look at these questions both ways. but you also have to think if the question isn't really going to hurt my client whether it's the state or the defendant. i might as well let the judge ask that question then the jurors are validated and they feel better because they have their question answered. >> shepard: nicole. >> i think i would be curious about how it is that she remembers killing him and she knows she stabbed him and she knows she slit his throat. she doesn't remember stabbing him or soliciting his throat. the convenience of her memory is something as a juror i would be curious about. >> i think that's exactly right. it's hard to guess. a lot of times, you know, you get questions that come out of jury room in all states where juries are used. a lot of times attorneys speculate about the meaning of those questions. you never know exactly why a juror is asking the question. i do do expect to see jurors asking questions about that topic. >> shepard: have you ever seen a defendant on the stand for this long and what's your assessment of how she has held up up there? >> i haven't. she has actually held up very well. we have seen her break down and cry. but i think everybody examined her to break down even more, especially under the pressure that juan martinez was putting on her. she has done a good job physically. whether that's resonate with the jury or whether she has made that connection she needs to save her life. that's a completely different question right there, shep. >> shepard: it really is monica, remember the day she broke down most often was the day that the prosecutor was ripping her story to shreds and forcing her to make one admission after another. the judge is speaking now about the process, let's listen. >> page 16. i'm going to read portions of that preliminary jury instruction to you. if you have a question about -- >> shepard: i'm guessing they have gone into what the rules of procedure are going to be for the asking of questions and now the judge is going over this procedural matter with the jury. >> that's exactly right. >> other rules of law may prevent some questions from being asked. if the rules permit the question and the answer is available, an answer will be given at the earliest opportunity. when we do not ask a question, it is no reflection on the person submitting it you should attach no significance to the failure to ask a question. i will apply the same legal standards to your questions as i do to the questions asked by the lawyers. if a particular question is not asked, please do not guess why or what the answer might have been. ms. arias, you are still under oath. do you understand? >> yes. >> i'm going to ask the questions in the order they were submitted. did mr. alexander pay for a majority of your trip? >> no. they were all split 50/50. >> if he did pay, was that a factor in you questioning his choices? for example, introduction to others and sleeping arrangements? >> he created the itinerary, but not really sure how to answer that. he made all the itinerary for our trip but we split the cost 50/50. if that makes sense. >> was it his money? his choices? >> it was his choices on the church history trip because he knew which places would be significant in the church history. i believe the choices were mutual as far as the list that we were trying to check off for a thousand points -- what was the last part of that question? >> was it his money? his choices? >> sometimes it was his money and i would make it up to him through housekeeping. sometimes it was my money and he would pay me back. >> why did you put the camera in the washer? >> i don't have memory of that. i don't know why i would do that. >> did you ever take pictures of yourself after he hit you? >> no, i did not. >> why did you call the cops on your ex who shook you but you never called the cops on travis? >> well, that was when he tried to break my forearm. we were wrestling. i was trying to get to the phone. it seemed logical to call 911. i never did with travis because that prior experience with calling 911, he grabbed the phone out of my hang and hung it up. it was a very negative experience. told me to shut up they are going to call back. they did call back. he created excuse why 911 was accidently dialed. after that i mean this was years and years later, um, as far as june 4th, there were no phones upstairs, to my knowledge. and for previous reasons, he would make up for it in ways that bobby didn't. >> why would you continue to sleep with travis after you learned of his child porn issue? >> that was not a side of travis that he wanted to even exist and of course i didn't want it to exist. he had told me that when he slept with women. >> objection. >> sustained. answer the question without referring to his statement. >> i was under the impression that when he was able to sleep with a woman as opposed to fantasizing about a child he felt like more normal as a man. so, also i had seen prior to this incident many beautiful qualities about him and good qualities about him and things that were attractive about him. and i believed that this incident was a negative part of himself that he didn't want to foster or that he was fighting or struggling against. and that he ultimately wanted to eradicated. >> why didn't you just change your g mail password so travis could not get into it anymore? it didn't become a problem right away when we exchanged pass words so it stayed that way many months. after i moved, it became a problem. eventually i did change my password. however, on -- and i know this date because of our text messages and things, was may 22nd, 2008, we had a conversation that and my journal entries i remembered it. we had a conversation we decided we are north going to do that anymore. after that conversation i made no further attempts to ever log into his accounts and, to my knowledge, i don't think he made any attempts to log into my accounts, either. >> did travis' closet doors have locks on them? >> i don't remember them having any locks. >> if no, how did you have time to get the gun down if he was right behind you? >> i don't know if he was right behind me or not. i just had the sense that he was chasing after me. >> did you record other phone sex conversations? >> yes. >> >> brian burns testified that he met you at a ppl event in april of 2008 and you had blonde hair. how is that possible if you do id it in march of 2008? >> well, the reason that is the case because i didn't meet ryan at convention in april of 2000 -- 2008. convention is not in april it's in march. he got the month wrong that is all. convention occurs in september and six months later in march. >> why did you feel so uncomfortable about anal sex with travis when you had previously tried it? >> >> shepard: well, the producers are a little squeamish about this question. while we are getting this i want to go to our lawyers. i wonder to both of you, nicole, let's start with you. this question about the pictures after he hit her. the question was why did you take pictures after -- she has claimed that he hit her, there is no evidence of that, that has shown up in court. i wonder if that's an importance for these jurors. >> it certainly sounds like it it this, again, a really interesting insight may be thinking. sounds like reading tea leaves. asking questions about why they can't verify details. just having to take her word which it sounds like they may not trust about all of these little details. >> shepard: indeed, we have passed that part that producer ares don't want on at 2:00 in oxford. take a listen. >> i didn't want people to know that was a preference of his and i was dumb enough to go along with that preference. >> you told darryl you wanted to abstain from sex until you were married. if that were the case, why did you have sexual relations with travis? >> well, my understanding at the time -- darryl and i did not -- we were not intimate after convention. shortly thereafter the missionaries became to come over to my house and preach about the law of chastity. they didn't overly preach. they mentioned it and explained it briefly. not in great detail. i wasn't comfortable asking these two young kids that i just met in detail about it. but travis and i had intimate conversations and he -- how he explained it to me is that vaginal sex is absolutely off limits and everything else is not as egregious to that law. >> travis stated on the phone sex conversation he did not like spider man. why did he buy you spider man underwear if he did not like that character? >> i don't know why, but they were spider man and i do know, however, that prior -- the year prior he -- there is is a child that he was close with that really liked spider man. i don't know if that had anything to do with it. but he was very much into spider man. he would dress up as spider man. >> objection she was asked if she knew why. >> >> sustained. why would you tell leslie you wanted your kids to play with travis' kids if you felt travis was into younger children? >>, this again is, a statement that i made on june 5th. i wanted to be able to -- i wanted to edify travis in good ways at that point. i didn't want to say anything bad. even prior to june 49 i would edify him in a good way rather than say anything bad about him. i wanted him to be cast in a good light, not a negative light. >> if you had bruises that were visible after the april 2008 incident, why is it no one else said anything to you about those bruises? >> well, that's not really true. the same day that the bruises occurred, there was a ppl associate who made a joke about it. it was very embarrassing. he just -- there was people around. we were at a business briefing. he joked about it it. travis was in the joke. i don't know if i got beat red but it felt like i did. i thought the makeup was covering them sufficiently. and then also, matt was somewhat confrontational about it, and at that point i was putting more makeup on. i had foundation, coverup, something that was very opaque that i was putting on them from that point on. >> if you were so near sighte to drive? >> i never had a problem driving. when i was on the freeway i could see objects, they weren't very sharp but they were sharp enough to where i could see if i was in danger of driving safely or not. as far as freeway signs i had to get closer to them to see what they said. as far as i knew, that was normal vision. i never had glasses my entire life. in 2010 i put on someone else's just for fun and it was like i didn't even know that you could see the world that way. everything was sharp. that's when i realized i need glass. >> in travis' text to jody, text 12308, exhibit 444, he talks about the mysterious man you have never seen before that wrote for you. who is this man and why is he bringing it up? >> that man would be steve carroll. he wrote me a very nice email. and it went to my g mail account, which travis read. and when i tried to explain myself, i said i have never even met him. and so he -- i guess he thought he was a mysterious man. i never met steve. that's what i told him. it led to a big fight. >> did travis think it was someone you lied about? >> i think he did. the way he postured his words. >> you took a picture of the pink t-shirt and shorts but not the boy's underwear. why were the pictures taken so much later? >> they were taken in july. i knew my time was winding down. and by that point i had heard several rumors that said i was obsessed and all these things and i thought, well, if somebody finds these, it does look a little strange that says a shirt travis alexander and travis across the seat of the back of these shorts. i didn't want those to be found. i knew i was going to be arrested. but they were sentimental to me. so i still wanted to memorialize them in some way. so i laid them out and i photographed them because they were special to me. >> you testified that travis gave you the book of mormon at starbucks. did you read it thoroughly? if so, when? >> i did read the book of mormons thoroughly. following that meeting, i attempted to read one chapter a day and so i finished it sometime, i think i finished it in about 8 months, more or less. and then thereafter in 2008 i read it -- i started january 1st and read one chapter a day. not always consistently or more or less and i would make up for it and i did that in 2009 and 10. i haven't done it since. >> does the book of mormon go into detail regarding the vow of chastity? >> it doesn't give explicit detail and is it doesn't even say law of chastity to my recollection. it just talks about -- it uses verbiage such as wore dom, things like that. being unclean and that's all in reference to sexual sin. so, it doesn't go into detail but it does reference that those things are considered simple. >> who initiated contact after the various breakups with bobby, matt, darryl and travis? start with bobby. >> um, let's see. >> shepard: a little bit of minutia here. i want to go back to monica if i could. monica is an attorney who works in arizona and works with this system. are you surprised by any of this? anything strike you? >> no. about the questions themselves? no. they seem like very common sense questions. and when i was listening to the testimony through the, i had a lot of these same questions as well. i don't think they are earth-shattering at all. but they do kind of give us an indication of what the jury is thinking. and, to me, since these are common sense questions, i think the jury is questioning her credibility. >> shepard: sounds as if they are questioning how she could have gotten to this gun which she said was in this closet, which she testified today was not locked, how she could get to that before he got to her. his speed vs. her speed, monica, was a lot of the discussion. maybe for a couple of days of this trial. >> absolutely. and if you noticed, when her attorney was talking to her, he was giving her a lot of outs. he was trying to put words in her mouth so to speak. he was saying well, wasn't travis, you know, bigger than you? weren't you scared of him? weren't you frightened and that's why you ran to get the gun? things like that. and she kept kind of back pedaling a little bit. no, he wasn't that fast. he wasn't that big. i wasn't that scared. so it's almost like she was fighting her attorney during that line of questioning. which i think hurt her. >> shepard: just short of 100 questions in this session. and we will come back and hear more of them right after this. i'm the world's worst cleaning lady. i'm here in your home, having a pretty spectacular tuesday. ♪ but i don't notice the loose rug at the top of your stairs. and that's about to become an issue for me. ♪ and if you got the wrong home insurance coverage, my medical bills could get expensive. so get allstate. [ dennis ] good hands. good home. make sure you have the right home protection. talk to an allstate agent. >> shepard: live look at a ghowrm phoenix where they are on a short recess just as we went to break, shortly thereafter the judge went to a five-minute recess. let's bring back in prosecutor nicole debored and monica lindstrom. i wonder what you thought of these questions about she has testified though there has been no real evidence to suggest that it's true the jury will have to decide. but she has testified that she noticed an interest that he had in children, in little boys. and one of the questions from the jurors was about why would you continue to sleep with him and separately why would you have your children play with his children and around him when you said he had issues with kids? >> exactly. i mean, i think these jurors are asking questions about the details because it's apparent from the questions to me anyway that they don't believe so. things that she said. it's convenient for these things that no one is here to rebut them. he can't come back and say this is absolutely false and let me tell you why, unfortunately because he has been killed. so, the jurors are asking questions about these details that can't be verified where they believe they may have caught her in an inconsistency, it seems to me. >> shepard: if i'm a defense attorney in there i'm squirmy, wanting to ask a follow-up, do you know? >> yeah, and they will, excuse me, they will have the chance to ask follow-up. because after the judge asked her these questions, she will turn to each attorney, i think she is going to start with the state this time. she will ask each one of them "do you have any follow-up questions?" they will each be able to clear up anything or ask anything in regards to that particular question. so they get another chance at the apple. >> shepard: it's a trial without end amen, amen. >> right. >> shepard: nicole and monica, thank you both so much. we'll have more coverage of this and a complete wrap-up tonight on the fox report. we need to take a quick commercial break and two of the big stories today rand paul and ongoing filibuster on capitol hill and another great day for your 401(k). ♪ [ female announcer ] from tracking the bus. ♪ to tracking field conditions. ♪ wireless is limitless.