Heels new Emails Clinton Foundation big wig trying to pull strings at the state department. Joining me from washington tom fitton from Judicial Watch which broke the story. We had you on a couple days ago talking about the other dramatic events with Clinton Foundation being tied to the state department. Here we on the heels of yet another one. Now, the clinton im sorry, the clintons and the state department both say that cheryl mills didnt actually secure that job for someone in new york. Does it matter . No, it doesnt matter. Mills went to new york to volunteer for the Clinton Foundation, even as mrs. Clinton said that she would keep the state department and Clinton Foundation business separate. Yet, her chief of staff is involved in hiring Clinton Foundation officials and, of course, ms. Mills was also vetting requests from the Clinton Foundation we know separately because they were running a speaking engagements by her and her colleagues there. They were running all sorts of other requests for conflicts checks with bill clinton and the foundation. And she is involved in hiring people at the foundation. Did she disclose that conflict to her colleagues at the state department . I doubt it. This is more evidence of a conflict of interest and misconduct and it calls, again, into question as to why the Justice Department isnt already hasnt aggressively pursued a criminal investigation as to what was going on there. Tom, do you think and they are basically three levels of this. Its either politically foolish to do. This its either or its ethical wrong to do this. Or third one being illegal to do. This where do you think these things lie . Well, the illegal is the open question. The only get the answer to that assume ago competent, independent investigation. There is no doubt the ethics agreements and rules were violated and broke. Whether those violations rise to criminal violation, i dont know investigation going in order to answer that question. And we dont have one yes, sir as best we understand it they there are conflicting reports as to whether one is open. But i guarantee you. This this is all going to contribute certainly this latest revelation is going to contribute to the pressure for another criminal investigation into the conduct of mrs. Clinton at the state department. Well, we have heard now unconfirmed but we have heard there are three offices of the fbi that recommended a wider investigation be open and that the department of justice said they werent ready to do that. Are s. There any confirmation of that. If more emails come out will they rethink that. I think more emails will come out for sure. On top of that report suggestion investigation ongoing. Fox news previously reported there was an investigation. I dont know if we can buy all of these reports that there is no investigation going on out there because i think the administration has acted as defense counsel and promoter for the Clinton Campaign. You see this in the state department trying to explain away all these apparent conflicts and violations of the rules without any explanation. I dont have a lot of time. Im role playing this through. This is all going on. Someone in the white house says i dont like this cozy relationship between the foundation and Clinton Foundation. No one ever blew the whistle on that . I wonder if the white house knew about it. Mrs. Clinton, by the way, promised this wouldnt take place because people were concerned about it. Its the only reason she got the job by making a promise to be a bright line between the foundation and the state department. And within months her foundation, her Family Foundation and the state department are working together and now we know her chief of staff was involved in hiring officials at the foundation. Sloot violation or ethics pledge and i would be interested to know to your point did the white house know about what was going on . You wrote a book about that. Obama and clinton scandals. Thats coming out. Is that right . Thats right. Clean house exposing our governments secret and lies coming out next month. Thanks, eric. Tom, thank you so much. Sure. Straight ahead, fasten your seat belts, up next we will be talking to a Clinton Campaign surrogate who sees things quite differently. Right back with that. For those who cant imagine life without two wheels, allstate offers a genuine parts guarantee, that promises to fix your bike with original parts. Talk to an allstate agent about all the things they do to keep riders riding. At safelite, we know how busy life can be. 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That is a typical argument you make in court by the way when you prove intent more substantial than the email crimes they let her off the hook for. Your response . Well, first of all, i think raoul is very consistent in that when he was a prosecutor himself he really raised the indictment, the amortization as the main event. And if you listen carefully what he said, he said this merits an investigation. Thats a subjective term. I think though the politics of are are a little bit more complicated. The Trump Campaign, which is falling further find in the polls are trying to double down on character issues and thats where they bring in discussion does emails. I think we are learning almost like a drip, drip, drip. That is the theory. But the polling doesnt bear that out, eric. Tie the Clinton FoundationHillary Clinton. You dont have a problem with this david, this cozy relationship between the Clinton Foundation and the Statement Department in did downtown raise any red flags in your world . Let me finish the thought. The mirror image on our side is talking about donald trump not releasing his tax returns being sued by fraud nor students. He advantage of. Both campaigns are campaigning are focusing on character of both candidates. Seeing in polling and becoming very clear across the country. No spin zone, stop spinning, stay on this. Does this cozy relationship between the Clinton Foundation and hillary Clintons State Department raise any red flags to a complat drik you . No. And i will tell you why. Republicans in the same seat. In the same office who had Family Foundations of their own, similar situations set up and i dont believe its fair to say that Hillary Clinton somehow should be held to a different standard. She is running for president , david. She wants to be the commander and chief. It all raises an issue. Decisionmaking and her character. All of it. Let me do. This thats the character of the Trump Campaign. Work with me. Do you find this a coincident or odd that uranium one was purchased by the russian government after making a 2. 3milliondollar contribution to various entities within the Clinton Foundation . Do you think thats interesting coincident or odd . More interesting that the russians hacked the d in dr. And russians ought to be hang hung up by toe nails. 2 million into the clinton coffers and received 2. 3 billiondollar deal with the russians to sell them airplanes . I get it, eric. Youre trying to say that there is corruption. Oh, im not done. Of course. You can keep going as long as as long as you want. I have one more. Do you find it coincidence or odd that ge dropped anywhere between . 500,000 between Hillary Clinton entity secured a deal to build multibilliondollar power plant with nigeria . Where are your talking points on donald trump . Funny you are not talking about him. I am talking about Hillary Clinton. I am talking about both. We have election on our hands. We have. This segment is Hillary Clinton 2016 segment right now. Right. You dont have a problem with any of these. You and Rudy Giuliani and everybody these bugaboos, you think oh my god, we have a hot one. A smoking gun. Guess what, these facts have been out for a long time, eric. Law enforcement across the country has been aware of these things for a long time the campaign is trying to change the subject away from donald trump losing in the polls. Thats whats going on. David, i just named three. I have a list of 20 year. Go for it, eric. Youre not changing any minds. Do you know what these are . These are paytoplay. This is what happened. According to eric bolling. No. According to many people. Okay. Name your people. I would love to see an investigation opened up so that Law Enforcement can get involved to decide whether paytoplay. Sure you would. And thats why. I have a hunch, when you keep reading into these you might find they may also be legally paytoplay which is breaking the law. Of course they might. They might not. But the fact of the matter is Law Enforcement is perfectly able to look into any of this and hasnt. What does that tell you, eric . They are not running a campaign the way donald trump is. You know what it tell me . Trump is losing campaign right now. Ask the question why havent they . Maybe they havent yet. Maybe they are doing it right now. We dont even know about it. Maybe, just maybe, some of that clinton influence may hit the highest levels of Law Enforcement. And if you ask me, look, you and i are both good americans here. I want to say. This this is how i want to leave this with you, eric. Its a much bigger deal when our enemies in russia hack into our systems and try change our election. I wish you would report on that. Look at the shiny object over there. David, i love you. 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In the election 2016 segment tonight, donald trump confronting a new reality falling poll numbers in critical swing states and red state bassian in utah. Im having a problem in utah. Is anybody here from utah . I didnt think so. [ laughter ] were having a problem. It could cost us the Supreme Court. We need help in ohio. Were very close in ohio. Ohio is very close. But we need help. Pennsylvania is a little further off we will win pennsylvania. She is a disaster. She is a disaster. And the wall street journal has a brand new poll showing Hillary Clinton widening her lead in some key battleground states. In colorado clinton leads trump by 15 Percentage Points 56 to 42 . In virginia clinton has 46 and trump has 3 . In North Carolina she is ahead 48 to 39 . And in florida, one of the most posh swing states, its close. 44 for clinton, 39 for trump. So what can donald trump do to turn things around. With me Jessica Tarlov democratic pollster and strategist and from washington kristin solstice anderson a republican pollster. What do you think. The clinton lead is widening, not greatly but widening. How do you turn that around . I think the the number one thing donald trump needs to do is address these concerns about his temperament. In polls that have come out in the last week, he has got about 70 of americans who say that the idea of donald trump being president makes them angst success. So even though they dont like Hillary Clinton. Even though they think she is untrustworthy, they dont like her personally. They still are at least saying well maybe she is less of a risk than trump. I think if is he able to sort of calm it down and get back to trying to convey that is he a guy who is all about the economy, thats his best possible path to repairing some of these really tough numbers. Jessica, about 90 days left until the election. Umhuh. 20 days ago donald trump was leelding. Yeah, absolutely. We were talking about what Hillary Clinton had to do to get back on top. And we discuss and i know we did personally. What did she do . Beside the convention and what else . The convention was a major part of what has happened here because she had out all of the major democrats speaking for her. She had 60 people. The speech hurt donald trump in the long run because of his reaction to that her speech weighs nearly the most impressive one there she did have that movement where she hugged Chelsea Clinton i know people on the both sides of the aisle were very moved by that but she put her head down. She played it well. Her playbook has been great for the last 20 days. He has done things that were completely avoidable. On monday he gave what was a pretty good economic speech and i think when donald trump reads off the teleprompter and doesnt go off an incredible amount. He needs to have some of his trumpisms of course. If he sticks to that and the next day he doesnt go out and talk about Second Amendment folks and next day obama was the founder of isis. And then say he wasnt that sarcastic. He can make progress. Key issues winning on by a lot economy and terrorism, he is now within the margin of error there. Get back to this. Kristen on monday he had economic unveiling nice plan. Talked to people here looked like a great plan. Tuesday morning had you a people say they could not vote for donald trump, Foreign Policy guys saying they cant vote for donald trump. Thursday another groh group saying they couldnt vote for donald trump. More republicans. In a week where he could have turned the debate back toward Economic Policy a bunch of republicans getting in the way. Well, and now you have got these states that are head states places where there are plenty of Republican Voters that are now making the Electoral College math even harder for donald trump. A state like georgia, states like North Carolina given the polls you just mentioned where trump is down by 9. These are states that mitt romney won by Pretty Healthy margins. If im donald trump right now, i would be sitting down with my strategist and figuring out how to get to 270. A lot of the travel he has got going to states like wisconsin, michigan, some the states are out of reach for him. Focus on ohio and florida two states closer in the polls than some of these other ones like colorado and virginia you mentioned and really figure out how do i get to that magic number 270 and just focus on that. Jess, kristen is right you get florida and ohio locked down and all you need is pennsylvania or michigan. Thats a big if right now. That includes you nailing down North Carolina, virginia. Right. Where she has in North Carolina she has a very healthy lead there right now kristen pointed out South Carolina within reach there. Talking about arizona and obviously utah with all those people or whatever. Real clear politics still has hillary up by 6. I thought the average was a bit over 7. Its not a done deal. When the hillary Clinton Campaign sends out emails that says this is not a done deal, he could still win, this i believe that they are serious. They have been through this before. Obviously it was nomination process president obama. Everyone thought that she was going to be the 2008 no, maam into. And she wasnt. Donald trump in the way that he has run this campaign how inorthodox it is, clintons play regular politics. You are running against a completely irregular candidate. We have to be careful. Fair enough. You know what happens and what happens is volatility. So you get these big swings. So donald trump, kristen is leading by five or six, now is he losing by five or six. You get big volatility whether you have such a, as you pointed out, a strange type of campaign on one side and the