A weeknight look at the news, featuring interviews, analysis and panel discussions hosted by Bret Baier. recordings regarding other people having nothing to do with the trump organization, which to give you an idea of what a scoundrel he was. my opinion has turned on him on a dime when i found out he was a lawyer recording his clients. fundamentally that's a dishonorable offense. >> the president did expand on the threats to shut down the government if the president doesn't give him what he wants on immigration reform and $25 billion to build a wall along the southern border. >> i would be certainly willing to consider a shutdown if we don't get proper border security. i have no redline. >> the president was on friendly territory on the issue of immigration. italy's prime minister has pledged to tighten his country's immigration laws. but avoiding the political fallout from a government shutdown may be a difficult maneuver for president trump to accomplish. president trump also surprised the nation today, a week after threatening iran with consequences, the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered. the president said he would be willing to sit down and talk employees. female administrator calls them deeply disturbing and is asking for an investigation by the homeland security inspector general. the post says cory coleman resigned in june after leading the personnel department since 2011. as you heard, the top republican in the senate says there will be no government shutdown before the november midterm elections. the president, though, sending a different signal today. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is on capitol hill tonight. >> president trump once his border wall and is willing to shut down the government for it. >> after many, many years of talk within the united states i would have no problem doing a shutdown. it's time we had proper border security. >> 99 days out from the midterm elections in the message from congress to the white house is no government shutdown. >> let's hope not. i think hopefully most of the appropriation bills will actually be passed. i certainly don't like playing shutdown politics. i don't think it would be helpful, so let's try and avoid it. >> even democrats make the case a shutdown this fall would do a lot of damage. >> the shutdown would be very bad news for the country, total disruption and i think it would be a very bad idea for republicans. >> last week mitch mcconnell and speaker paul ryan met with the president to urge against the shutdown, warning it could damage the argument republicans will make for reelection in november with the g.o.p. running washington. it can also mess with the efforts to get judge brett kavanaugh confirmed to the supreme court just weeks before the midterm elections. today cavanagh met with joe manchin, the first democrat to do so during this confirmation process. after initially voicing concerns with the president trump spec, rand paul took some of the drama away from cavanagh's confirmation announcing he was a "yes" ." and other republicans are predicting cavanagh will be confirmed with at least some democratic votes. >> when it comes to brett kavanaugh i have zero doubt he's going to be on the supreme court before the end of october. he's highly qualified, well deserving. we are going to break the back of every democratic effort to stop this man from being on the supreme court. >> that's this nomination in terms of future vacancies, ruth bader ginsburg said she's not going anywhere anytime soon. at 85, ginsberg says she thinks she's got at least five more years and her on the high court. >> bret: mike emanuel on capitol hill, thanks. what do you think, would you be in favor of a government shutdown in order to get funding for the border wall? let me know on twitter. you can use the hashtag, or on facebook. stocks were off today. the dow lost 144. the s&p 500 dropped 16. the nasdaq plunged 107. overseas, turkey's leadership is apparently willing to call president trump's bluff. the turkish president says he will not back down over the detention of an american pastor years, but turkey accuses brunson of terrorism and for supporting a turkish cleric who lives in pennsylvania and who president erdogan believes was the mastermind behind a failed military coup in 2016. turkey is demanding he be extradited. last week brunson was released from prison but he remains under house arrest. earlier this month it appears the deal was in the works to release brunson. an israeli official confirmed to fox news that president trump called israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to request the release of a turkish woman arrested in israel on suspicion of aiding the militant group hamas. she was released, but brunson remains in custody. turkey's relationship with the united states has been fraying for years largely due to disagreements about the war in syria. pastor brunson's release will go a long way to easing tensions between the trump administration and president erdogan's government. bret. >> bret: connor, thank you. here in washington, we welcome the italian prime minister, prime minister conte. >> thank you. thank you for the interview. >> bret: you have met with president trump before at the g7. you have exchanged some friendly tweets to one another. tell me about the relationship with president trump and what you were hoping out of this alliance. >> i met president trump, as you mentioned, during the g7 and canada. there was a feeling by the beginning and maybe because we are not from political backwards. we pay attention to the needs of our people. i hope that also we can increase this relationship between our countries. >> bret: you have the third largest economy, italy is. the e.u. commissioner was just here talking trade. your thoughts on that development and where it's headed? >> i was very happy about the meeting that the president of the e.u., president trump they held here in washington. also because they reaffirmed the special relationship between the european union and the united states. of course i understand very well the position of president trump. would like to have a rebalance of the u.s. foreign trades. we have to work for this goal and make a shift for this goal and i hope we can find a good solution for american citizens, italian citizens and european citizens. >> bret: there are many italians, it seems, who blame the e.u. for some economic problems. as you took over power there was some talk about whether italy would be in the e.u. you are going to stay in the european union? >> we are going to stay. we've been very comfortable in the european union. but of course we want to stay also according to our region, according also to our needs of italian citizens. my position is very clear in the most him important issue, migration, economic, political situation. we will try to, of course, convince the other member states to direct their position in the same direction. >> bret: other people in italy who look at great britain in the middle of brexit and say we need to do that? >> we feel very comfortable in the european union. there is no future in that direction. >> bret: you mentioned migration. half of all the migrants, refugees coming by sea to europe landed in italy. half of them. that is a big issue in your country. >> you have to consider that since my government took office, the illegal migration dramatically dropped. we are talking about 80, 85% less then comparing the last year. our strategy is working out. >> bret: when you hear president trump on the issue of immigration here in the u.s. taking a hard line, that is something that you identify with. >> i identify with that position. you are mentioning a hard position. i think we have to fight against the criminal migration. we need to be conscious, the damages, the risk for the migrants, it's not only important to focus on the mediterranean sea but we had to also concentrate from the other countries. supported by the criminal organizations. >> bret: one of the issues the u.s. is concerned about his libya and the chaos that has been libya. the u.s. has obviously had a role in the past. what is your assessment of libya, you are next-door and you feel obviously the impact of what happens in that country? >> libya, i think we share the same vision. we want a more prosperous libya. in this way, through this way we can reach more security for the entire mediterranean sea. >> bret: does it include u.s. troops again? >> it's important to cooperate with all the libyan people in order -- the direction is very clear. to have elections, political presidential elections in a condition very sublime. >> bret: in europe, where do you see the trajectory going? what is the biggest issue for european countries? >> the most important issues are to keep unity of the european union, because we are 28 state members and you can understand it is difficult to have a future of solidarity. we are many countries now with different sensibility spirit >> bret: mr. prime minister, we appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. >> bret: we will be right back to "special report" after this break. call one today. are you in good hands? they work togetherf doing important stuff. the hitch? like you, your cells get hungry. feed them... with centrum micronutrients. restoring your awesome, daily. centrum. feed your cells. xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. ♪ >> bret: the transportation security administration is pushing back tonight on a report about a secret surveillance program targeting americans who are not suspected of a crime. correspondent leah gabriel looks at both sides from new york. >> a previously unknown tsa program designed to keep you safe is drawing fire for secretly tracking u.s. citizens not on the terrorist watch list or suspected of a crime. "the boston globe" first reported the quiet skies program over the weekend. the tsa confirmed it first began in 2010 with the aim of preventing another 9/11. >> tsa officers are trained in behavioral detection and so they are already looking for somebody who is acting erratically, who makes them extremely nervous, someone who is exhibiting signs that other people who have executed attacks on airports and airplanes have exhibited. >> under this program, as travelers pass through airport security, a computer algorithm spots those whose travel and activities match with current threat intelligence. a human team then bets the information and if there is a red flag in the flyer's background, that person may be followed through his or her travel and watched. one attorney for the aclu saying "they are watching travelers in secret and they are doing it without any suspicion of actual wrongdoing." but it tsa official tells fox news the program has a system of checks and balances, including with the agency calls robust oversight. so the idea that ordinary u.s. citizens are being surveilled is wrong. >> average americans would not come close to qualifying for inclusion in this program. if you are being observed by a federal air marshal as part of this program, it is because you have a pattern of travel as well as other activities. >> although this program may be new to the public, the tsa tells fox news congress has been briefed on it four times in the last few months and that there is strong oversight from legal and civil liberties experts. the agency also says that contrary to some news reports, race and religion are not criteria for selection. >> bret: we will follow it, thank you. also a new york senate, increasing speculation about the future of one of the most power up till my powerful people medi media. the cbs board of directors today discussed what to do about sexual harassment allegations against chief executive les moonves. howard kurtz tells us where things stand right now. >> the dark cloud over cbs was a prime topic today on its morning show. >> the board of directors at cbs is expected to meet today amid allegations of sexual harassment against chairman and ceo leslie moonves. >> since ronan farrow reported highly detailed allegations by six women spanning three decades, three board members aligned against moonves and pushed for his immediate suspension, but no action has been taken. >> it underscores a huge problem at cbs. if this kind of behavior is coming from the chairman of the company, it could be seen as a reflection of the general and overall culture at cbs. >> the one time actress julie chen today reinforced her tweets defending her husband. >> i will stand by that statement. >> has led the resurgent from last-place to first place and recently found a commission to eliminate harassment in the workplace. >> last week ncis was watched by 25 million people. i don't think we are dying. >> a far different portrait emerges in the new yorker. douglas told the magazine that in 1997 business meeting moonves held her down, violently kissed and groped her and after she fought him off had her fired from a cbs sitcom. kristin peters said moonves put his hand up her skirt and touched her underwear. moonves who are admitting kissing douglas denied harming anyone's career and said he knew no means no but added i recognize there were times decades ago and they may have made some women uncomfortable in making advances. those were mistakes and i regret them immensely. cbs quickly fired anchor charlie rose after "the washington post" reported harassment allegations against him in november. moonves is already locked in a legal battle with jerry whetstone, who wants to combine cbs and viacom. the cbs board meeting ended today with no action be on the search for an outside law firm to investigate. but it will be hard for the network to return to business as usual with moonves still in charge. >> bret: thanks. up next, california burns as more than a dozen wildfires tear through that state and other western states, forcing thousands to evacuate. here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 29 in philadelphia as state officials say they have successfully stopped a company that makes 3d downloadable guns, for making them internet accessible in pennsylvania and from uploading new files. a texas company agreed to block pennsylvania users after an emergency hearing sunday. fox 28 in columbus, ohio, as vice president mike pence visits suburban newark to campaign for state senator troy balderson. he's running for ohio's 12th congressional district against democrat danny o'connor. this is alive look at kansas city from our affiliate fox 4. big story there tonight a lawsuit seeking $100 million in damages has been filed against the owners and operators of a tourist boat that sank earlier this month in a missouri lake, killing 17 people. at the federal lawsuit was filed sunday on 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tens of thousands are still under evacuation orders. >> and this is one of the many homes leveled and reduced to ash in this reading neighborhood. you can see a washer and dryer over there, what used to be a filing cabinet just in front of it. overhear a garage door melted to the ground and as we walk further out into the driveway, metal is just about the only thing left from this truck after the car fire swept through this area. >> it's unfortunate if our house is burned. it sounds like there's only two places sanding so the chances are that it probably did. >> the car fire is one of just nearly 2200 fires burning. of 12,000 firefighters from across the state are on the front line. >> it's a back burn into the creek. >> even with the help from 800 national guard soldiers and 150 engines from outside the state, containing these fires remains a dangerous mission. at least half of the eight deaths linked to the fires are among crews. the rest residents including some who either chose not to evacuate or didn't receive notice at all. cal fire tonight announcing they will allow the first round of evacuees to finally return home, but many are bracing for the worst, not knowing if they are t everything. >> bret: in redding, california, jeff, thanks. attorney general jeff sessions says the justice department is committed to protecting the religious rights of americans. sessions telling an audience at a religious liberty summit western culture has become less hospitable to people of faith. >> a dangerous movement undetected by many, but real is now challenging and eroding a great tradition, our religious freedom. there can be no doubt it's no little matter. it must be confronted intellectually and politically and defeated. >> bret: session says he believes one reason president trump was elected was because he said he respected people of faith. up next, the panel on president trump's apparent decision to reject an interview with the special counsel and the latest on all of 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outnumbered this afternoon to talk more about what he has been saying over the past 24 hours about the russian investigation. the president tweeting over the weekend, is robert mueller ever going to release his conflict of interest with respect to president trump including the fact that we had a very nasty and contentious business relationship? i turned him down to head the fbi one day before appointment as special counsel and comey is is right. why is mueller only appointing angry dams? some of whom have worked for kroger hillary, others have worked for obama. why isn't he looking at all of the criminal activity. we start there with our expanded penalty. brit hume. chris stirewalt's politics editor here at fox news. mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist and charles lane, the opinion writer for "the washington post" ." thoughts on giuliani's press to her? >> disposition today, series of them. a lot of confusion and our people arguing tonight that he does this on purpose. you see everybody get all mixed up. i think he came out and said something that sounded very much like he was giving ground as to whether there had been collusion. i don't think you meant to do that and i think he tried to walk it back and how successful he did that remains to be seen, but there remains tonight i think a lot of confusion. >> bret: one thing that is clear is that rudy giuliani is saying president trump will not sit down for an interview with mueller. >> i try to look back at the big picture here, what is trump and giuliani trying to accomplish? and i feel with their political base if there were any traction to this investigation at all they would be behaving much differently. they feel no need to give anything to robert mueller as long as republicans are behind them and i checked, and i was right, my hunch was right. in the latest quinnipiac poll, 61% of republicans regard the investigation as "unfair." 82 republicans agree with the president that it's a witch hunt. as long as he's got that kind of agreement from his base, he feels no need to give in. >> i do think people in d.c. like to separate that initial fbi investigation where you saw that there was spying on the trump campaign and the use of human informants, the wiretaps, the secret subpoenas called national security letters from the mueller investigation and what i thought was interesting that he said is these are just the same investigation, and that is true that mueller picked up that initial investigation and he just has more money and fewer restrictions. i think that it is worth having a conversation about what exactly is going on with this investigation, how much has been going on, how long people are expected to wait to find out whether there's anything and whether there is such political bias inherent in the investigation -- the latest updates without that mueller was digging into tweets. this is kind of silly and ridiculous. >> bret: on obstruction. >> from collusion -- from treason to collusion, some obstruction of justice charge. i think people have the right to know what the scope of the investigation is, how much money they intend to spend, how much time they expect to take place so i hope people get more answers. >> bret: it doesn't happen in a vacuum. it is moving forward. tomorrow the trial for paul manafort starts and that's obviously tangential to the russian collusion allegations, but we will see more evidence against manafort in coming days. >> and we will see more evidence of why no one would hire paul manafort. these are the consequences of being a political novice as the president when he came in. none of the other candidates hired paul manafort because he wasn't suitable to hire. what did we see, $60 million i think that he took doing work for some rather questionable entities in the ukraine says federal prosecutors. so talk that went up to experience. i don't think trump would rehire paul manafort. i also think that we are getting to the terminal phase. when it comes to manafort, certainly, but mueller says september 1st was his target all along. that's where he wanted to get. if that's what we believe, so i think things are going to get a lot more choppy in the next couple weeks. >> bret: and giuliani has said that, that mueller has told him they will wrap it up sometime early in the fall. >> then it becomes the subject of the whole campaign going into the elections, which is why you think the president -- the president's view of this is that he can make it a political advantage. he hammers on mueller as unfair and bias, he is preparing the ground for the republican campaign in the fall to turn out the base as a protest against what they are going to be told and what many of them believe is a biased mueller investigation. >> what we know and what we don't know, it's reasonable i think to consider the possibility that what so in flames president trump about this investigation is that he believes that he is innocent and he can't understand why nearly two years now into his presidency he still having to deal with this monkey on his back. and a lot of things we know he hasn't been innocent, but he may well be innocent in this case and i'm not sure how different his behavior would be. i think his behavior would be very different if you weren't. >> we talked about before with questioning his election and russians actually doing things to so chaos in the elections. >> i think it is also worth remembering things like davis and paul manafort were people that republicans hired on campaigns. >> long ago for paul manafort. >> there seems to be a different standard here and one that thinks that anything you do is okay because it's donald trump and anything you can run against him, there's nothing that's unfair and there's nothing that's ridiculous. i think a lot of republican voters are wondering why donald trump is the only person actually making some of these claims about the unfairness of the investigation or this idea that mueller is beyond reproach. people says that he too has a history, including messing up the anthrax. >> i think we will get a real sense of what the russians actually did, the exact things they did and the extent of it and the extent of its potential effect. we have some knowledge of that. we will get more. some of the anti-trump zealots are now claiming that the russians actually swung the election. i think that's an extremely dubious theory, but the mueller investigation's final outcome on what the russians did may settle that. >> bret: what we are going to say? >> the russians were involved with another campaign. hillary clinton secretly bought a dossier that was sourced to promote operative. i'm very curious why mueller hasn't dug into that margaret is not interesting that you can secretly hire a foreign spy who sourced information to promote operatives. if people were really genuinely concerned about russian meddling, and by the way the fact that the spy let it be known that he was looking for dirt meant that he opened himself up to exploitation by russian government operatives. if we genuinely truly cared about these things i think you would see much more interest in the media and by mueller into that. >> bret: i'm not sure that we are not going down that road with the second ig report from horwitz and you may see that in those topics covered. i want to talk about two things. one is the reference to conflicts of interest. john roberts reports that it appears to be a reference to a 2011 dispute over fees at the trump golf course when mueller had a dispute over fees for the golf course outside washington. >> except that the president's tweets as he wanted it to be fbi chief. >> bret: that was in addition to this. >> i don't think that amounts to a whole lot. >> i just think it's interesting that it's that personal at that point. >> bret: rudy giuliani on this second meeting that he comes out and talks about a second trump tower meeting that never happens. take a listen. >> two alleged meetings. first meeting, group of people, not the president. a group of people say the meeting didn't take place. the only person that has alleged it is cohen. the second meeting, in walks donald trump jr., says let me meet with the russians, never took place. >> bret: he just brings up in this outnumbered interview saying that reporters have asked him about a second meeting that cohen is going to say this in some story. >> i love the response from our colleague guy benson, sitting on the center of the curvy couch and he was pining about what the former new york mayor had said earlier in the day on television. it became apparent that as giuliani was listening he said e gad, i made a mess! 91, go. longtime viewer, first time fire caller, rudy from new york. and i also tend to agree on this, which is i do not think this is strategic chaos. i think this is just plain chaos. >> bret: i'm going to do a hard turn here. this is the president today on iran. take a listen. >> i ended the iran deal, it was a ridiculous deal. i do believe that they will probably end up wanting to meet and i'm writing to meet anytime they want to and i don't do that from strength or from weakness, i think it's an appropriate thing to do. if we could work something out that is meaningful, not the waste of paper that the other deal was, i would certainly be willing to meet, anytime they want. it's good for the country, good for them, good for us and good for the world. no preconditions. if they want to meet, i will meet. >> bret: meeting with iran's president. this is what the secretary of state said just a couple of days ago. >> as president trump i said, we are willing to talk with the regime in iran but relief from american pressure will come only when we see tangible demonstrated and sustained shifts in tehran's policies. >> bret: so? >> you know me, he says, i will meet with anybody. he did not suggest an pompeo certainly didn't that there would be any relief involved as a precondition of anything we are doing vis-a-vis iran, so he thinks meeting with these guys is good. i have my doubts, but that's what he does, that's his style and he thinks he's a great meter. >> it would confer a lot of legitimacy on a regime that we've been trying very hard in all other ways to delegitimize. it wouldn't be the first time, because we did that with kim jong un of north korea too. >> bret: next up, is president trump serious about a government shutdown? ahoy-hoy. alexander graham bell here... no, no, my number is one, you must want two! two, i say!! like my father before... 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the wall. just moments ago the senate appropriations committee chairman, shelby from alabama said there could be a vote to override a veto to avoid her shutdown. asked what he think president trump makes such threats, he said i don't know, it's not a good threat for anybody and said that they are moving forward with regular order. chris stirewalt, what about this? >> do you ever see the grace of the church picnic where you get an egg and a tablespoon and you have to walk across -- that's mitch mcconnell with the budget trying to get something passed before the election so everybody can go home and campaign. whether or not there's a shutdown, all of these things -- first question, can they get something out of the house? the issue in the house, as we know, it's about the wall, but it's also about amnesty and the freedom caucus basically shot down a plan for a package that would have funded the wall because it included an amnesty for the people who were brought here illegally. if we think of it as a pejorative word, alleged amnesty, they shut it down because they said they wouldn't go for it. first he got to find something to get out of the house and then it has to get through the senate. this is going to be tough. these are tough tumblers to tur turn. >> if you learn anything from decades of occasional government shutdowns, it's this, the public hates them. they may not say that in advance, but they always do and whatever party gets the blame pays the price. this most recent instance the democrats got the blame. they were the ones making all the noise about it and what happened they backed away almost instantly. >> bret: are poles said most responsible, democrats 32%. >> they backed up immediately. ted cruz was the pied piper of the conservatives in the house of all places. it backfired terribly. the republican party standing with the public dropped to the lowest level in the history of the gallup poll. people say they won the next election. they did, but that was a year and a couple of months to go before that and a major intervening event, which was wa disastrous roll out of obamacare. shutdown politics are a bad idea and if you are going to try to pull that off, the last thing you want to be doing is threatening it because it means that you are going to be blamed. >> bret: molly? >> i think what you have is a president who really wants to deal with the issue and an establishment in both parties that really doesn't want to deal with the issue and donald trump knows that the leverage he has is with the voters and the only time republicans get the steel needed to take on their donor class and talk about immigration is when they are under threat from voters. donald trump is using this leverage he has to encourage people to actually take action. he's got a strong economy, he's got his second supreme court nominee confirmation process going through. he's in a position of strength right now and immigration is an issue that he ran on and he cares about, so i think he wants -- paul ryan said it's not an issue up if this will happen but when. i think donald trump is saying i'm losing my patience. >> bret: there are some inside washington that say this effort, and by threatening this potentially threatens the kavanaugh nomination. shelby was asked about that and he says it's two different kettle of fish but people get polarized here and eventually everything comes together. >> i didn't think i would ever say this, i really strongly agree with molly's take on this. >> bret: sweet of him, right? >> it's a lovely sentiment. what's really going on here is the president is responding, just like he is on the mueller thing, to his base. in this great scheme of things, what does he care about most? i'm not sure it's brett kavanaugh. not even sure it's whether the republicans hold the house. it's how he does in 2020. and he has to authenticate himself constantly on this issue of immigration because that he knows there's hard data to set him apart from all the other republicans. 72% of republicans favor building the wall. >> on the substance of the issue, he's right. >> and they don't care about the shutdowns, at least rhetorically. he can make a big fuss and bother ground about i preferred this even to keeping the government open and that is -- >> will he go so far as to let it shutdown? >> he never has before, but that can be forgiven. i think that's why he's doing this. >> bret: the italian prime minister talking as well. >> you can't build a wall in the mediterranean sea but i think they would have if they could. >> bret: panel, thank you very much. when we come back, high school sweethearts get hitched to a different beat. call one today. are you in good hands? 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