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resign. but he sure beat the stuffing out of him in public. at another event today to highlight american manufacturin manufacturing, president trump ignored shouted questions whether he continues to believe in his attorney general. >> mr. president, does jeff sessions still have your full support? >> principal deputy erie press secretary sarah huckabee sanders answered. >> the president said yesterday he was disappointed in attorney general sessions' decision to recuse himself but he has confidence in him or he would not be the attorney general. speaker it appeared at odds with the public flogging president trump gave jeff sessions in a "new york times" interview. proclaiming had he known josh sessions -- >> sessions should have never recused himself. he should have told me before he took the job but i would have picked someone else. how do you take a job and then recuse yourself? it's extremely unfair, and that's a mild word. >> white house insisted the president was being candid. stick away after repeal and replace. >> in doing so, the president stepped all over his message yesterday about health care reform. a doj trust conference today to announce the takedown of websites trafficking in drugs and guns became an embarrassing inquiry into whether the attorney general would resign. >> i have the honor of serving as attorney general. it's something that goes beyond any thought i would have ever had for myself. we love this job. we love this department, and i plan to continue to do so. as long as that's appropriate. >> president trump critical of sessions' number two, rod rosenstein, who appointed robert mueller. the president told "the new york times" he was irritated when he heard rosenstein had worked in baltimore saying "there are very few republicans in baltimore if any." standing side-by-side with jeff sessions, rosenstein brushed off the criticism. >> i was proud to be here yesterday. i am proud to be here today and i will be proud to work tomorrow. >> president trump santa sharp sharp warning to robert mueller to keep his nose out of the president business dealings. >> is it a redline? >> i would say yes. >> bloomberg reported mueller was looking into the president's finances but the investigation appeared limited to business deals with russians with the president seemed okay with. >> i spell a lot of condo units -- sala and a lot of condo units. somebody from russia >> president trump has no intention firing robert mueller. whether or not jeff sessions feels his relationship with the president is so irreparably damaged he will have to eventually resign is another matter. white house tells me the president is having dinner with bob kraft. >> chris: maybe he can get back kraft's super bowl ring from vladimir putin. o.j. simpson, the football star who gained infamy during the trial for the murder of his ex-wife and her friend will soon be a free man. even though he was acquitted of the murder charges, simpson has spent the last nine years in prison for different crime. claudia cowan reports from simpson's parole board hearing in carson city, nevada. >> mr. simpson, i.e. grant parole. >> o.j. simpson will soon be a free man. >> i've done my time. i've done it as well and as respectively. >> four parole commissioners agreed that under provisions outlined by nevada law, he has served enough of a nine to 33 year sentence for his role in orchestrating a 2007 robbery. >> are you humbled by this incarceration? >> yes. i take full responsibility. i should have never allowed these alleged security guys to help me because they were only trying to help themselves. >> simpson got a chance to explain what happened at the palace station casino, rambling at times, said he was pressured to hire security guards to help them retrieve what he called stolen property. he said he wasn't aware they were armed while emphasizing he wasn't. >> i am in no danger to pull a gun than anybody. i never have in my life. never been accused of it in my life. nobody has ever accused me of pulling a weapon on them. >> los angeles police department accused him of using a weapon in the murders of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman. the parole board members recognized their job required them to ignore the o.j. of the past. >> our decision is fair and just. >> it is something tonya brown, nicole brown simpson's sister has learned to accept. >> whatever the parole board says, it is. i've been saying it for years. it is what it is. i can't. >> simpson spent nine years as a model prisoner. two sports memorabilia sellers. one of them spoke on simpson's behalf saying he has made peace with simpson. >> i feel 9.5 2:30 three years was way too long. >> o.j. simpson will be released october 1st, says he plans to live in florida and spent time with his children. the one thing he must not do is get in anymore trouble. a >> chris: claudia cowan reporting from carson city, nevada, . president trump spent part of the day getting an update on u.s. efforts to defeat isis as well as other american military operations. national security correspondent jennifer griffin reports from the pentagon. >> six months into his presidency, donald trump made a second trip to the pentagon to receive an update from his national security team on global threats. >> isis is falling fast, very fast. >> the meeting today lasted more than two hours. the pentagon says it was not a strategy meeting. the last time president trump was here, days after his inauguration, he ordered a copper has a plan to defeat isis in 30 days. that deadline passed five months ago. since then, u.s. forces helped iraqi troops take back mosul, their second-largest city, from which isis proclaimed their caliphate three years ago. isis still controls two major cities in iraq. and parts of western and/or province along the border with syria. millions of iraqis remain internally displaced. >> if a family can't feed their children, they will turn to any available resource they can and that usually is extremism. >> the fight to retake raqqa in syria continues. many of the isis foreign fighters are returning to their home countries, raising fears that once isis is defeated in iraq and syria, it will have metastasize. isis has a presence in 21 countries right now. complicating matters, turkey, part of the anti-isis coalition, published the secret locations of nearly ten outposts where u.s. special operators are living in northern syria. "we would be very concerned if officials from a nato ally would purposely endanger our forces by releasing sensitive information. we have conveyed these concerns to the government of turkey." since august 2014, the u.s. has conducted nearly 20,000 air strikes in iraq and syria. nearly 80% of all coalition strikes for total cost of our for the past three years of fighting isis, $13 billion. $13 million a day. >> chris: jennifer griffin from the pentagon. homeland security department says 180 airlines worldwide have complied with the first phase of enhanced secured he measures outlined last month. that comes as we learn u.s. security officials have tested terrorist explosive devices that could be placed in electronics and are strong enough to bring down a passenger jet. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge as the story. >> speaking at the aspen security conference, homeland security secretary john kelly confirmed they tested a prototype laptop computer bomb before rolling out new rules for electronic devices. >> we tested it on a real airplane. on the ground, pressurized. great >> first time kelly has described in depth the intelligence that led to restrictions on laptop computers for flights into the u.s. by march, kelly said the intelligence had a crisis point. it was sophisticated, real, targeted at certain airports. >> similar device nearly brought down this jet in somalia last year but it failed because the plane was not at flying altitude and was pressurized. kelly confirmed the transportation security administration along with the fbi built two devices based on highly classified information that you such a small amount of explosives no airport screening could detect it. kelly said the intelligence was surprising even for him. >> having been around explosions all my life, the device, as it was described to me, had an amount of expose of that i did not believe could destroy an airplane. >> kelly used a sports analogy to describe how multiple terrorist groups are working on laptop bomb capability. >> ideally they would like to knock down the u.s. airplane in flight on the way to the united states. that's the stanley cup, world series. >> kelly told the conference the policy is requiring airports to adopt stricter screening procedures in order to avoid electronic ban. >> chris: thank you. senate judiciary committee has unanimously approved the nomination of christopher wray to run the fbi. wray is president trump's pick to succeed james comey. former professional home of the president's top diplomat in trouble. the treasury department is finally exxonmobil $2 million. saying that the company violated russia sanctions while rex tillerson was the ceo. exxon says it's innocent. state department is not commenting. stocks next. dow lost 29, s&p 500 off one-third. nasdaq gained five. paul ryan took his crusade to reform the tax code to a shoe factory near boston. peter doocy is there to show us what happened. >> good evening. this afternoon i had a chance to ask the speaker of the house paul ryan if he thinks it was appropriate for president trump to tell "the new york times" he would not have fire jeff sessions as attorney general if he knew sessions would recuse himself from the russia probe. >> i think jeff sessions addressed it and what matters is he wants to stay and he is staying. >> ryan didn't come to new england to talk russia. he came to talk tax reform. ryan toured new balance, the only major sneaker company to mass produce out of america with a ceos has a better tax code would incentivize them. ryan says tax reform is coming in the fall even if obamacare reform fails and the feds can't count on savings from that. >> we can do tax reform regardless of what happens with health care reform. we have a contingency plan. we will do tax reform no matter what happens with respect to any other issue. we have to do tax reform. it's a once in a generation opportunity. >> i asked ryan what one big bill his congress has sent to the president in six months since his swearing-in and ryan have insisted there have been 15 or 16 big bills some of which had democratic support. >> most of what we do in congress is bipartisan. we just passed a huge overhaul of our military, a big upgrade in our military with a huge bipartisan vote. we overhauled the veterans administration. we asked an overhaul of our career and technical education system. >> i tried to get ryan to handicap which health care option has a better chance of passing the house. ryan said the house would prefer to repeal and replace in the future but he doesn't want to prejudge the senate bill. >> chris: peter doocy and lawrence, massachusetts. the nra goes after fake news. we will tell you why the gun group is coming after the media with both barrels. that's next. hold on dad... liberty did what? 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if you'd rather be home, ask your doctor about neulasta onpro. >> chris: palestinians threw stones and glass bottles at israeli forces. palestinians upset over the placement of metal detectors at the site after a deadly attack last week. palestinians calling for a massive protest tomorrow. israeli forces on are on high alert. the national rifle association taking new shots of the news media. the nra is going to war with "the washington post" over that paper's criticism of some of the gun rights groups new tactics. here is chief washington correspondent james rosen. >> they use their media to assassinate real news. they use schools to teach children their president is another hitler. >> the national rifle association posted a minute long video fronted by the spokesperson, attacking the left. then came the shooting of house majority whip steve scalise by a deranged liberal. >> i think a lot of cash one of the people that went to jail for threats, his mother said he watches too much fox tv. >> july, a six minute video that made no mention of the second amendment, former navy seal and nra commentator blasting officials for fomenting violence. >> these conditions were common, every radical islamic country i spent time in. >> in "the washington post" noted the nra's double quote dark video" atv host spent 3 minutes deriding the paper. >> they trot out a general assignment reporter to call the video dark and tell us we can't have an opinion unless it's about guns? we talk about more than guns because every freedom is collected. if one is threatened, they are all threatened. >> and iraq war veteran claimed there have been a warning issued to him and the post. some analyst -- >> not having a president barack obama to campaign against, it wants to send a broader message conveying an adversary where the country is a scary place and implying you might need guns. >> nra officers declined to comment saying they never discussed their media strategy in public. the group emailed us fbi statistics showing 2017 to be on track to be the biggest year ever for gun sales. >> chris: police in washington confirming two members of a robotics competition team from burgundy have been seen crossing the border into canada. four teenage males also missing. police say they have no indication of foul play. their squad was part of the same robotics competition that hosted a team of girls from afghanistan whose visas were arranged by president trump. south carolina senator lindsey graham says cancer has never had a more worthy opponent. one of the reactions tonight and news that senator john mccain has been diagnosed with an aggressive, malignant brain tumor. mike emanuel reports. >> obviously it's a tough diagnosis but it's a tough man. >> news of senator mccain's brain cancer hit collings hard. >> i can't think of anything i've done since 1999 politically, in many ways personally, that was worth doing without john. >> doctors believed they remained all of the cancer tissues. treatment options may include accommodation of chemotherapy and radiation. kane's daughter meghan wrote a tribute, calling him her hero. the senator has faced typical situations before, battling skin cancer and as a prisoner of war in vietnam. >> i stood in vietnam in front of the cell where john had been held captive for over five years. you think about that kind of courage and bravery and that's why he is going to fight this to the end. >> mccain continues to show resilience. "i greatly appreciate the outpouring of support. unfortunately for my sparring partners in congress, i will be back soon." reaction spread past capitol hill. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, former presidents clinton, obama, both bushes, president trump expressed their best wishes. last night's news was a movement for colleagues to put aside partisan bickering. >> this country needs john mccain now more than ever. >> he has called me three times this morning. no more "always me, lindsay." he's yelling at me to buck up. >> i'm told mccain would love to return to his office but those close to he will consult with doctors. >> chris: mike emanuel on capitol hill. thank you. north carolina governor roy cooper says he's opposed to drilling for natural gas and oil off the atlantic coast. cooper says it's not worth the risk to the states beaches and tourism economy. in april, president trump signed an executive order to expand oil drilling in the atlantic and arctic oceans. the city of cleveland has had problems with its water supply. the cuyahoga river which flows into lake erie caught fire in 1969. now cleveland is looking to the federal government for help to clean up its act again. correspondent douglas kennedy tells us why. >> and lot of material. >> michael blair has one of the dirtiest jobs in ohio, cleaning the nets on one of a dozen tributaries to the cuyahoga river. i see beer bottles, a lot of household items. >> yes, a lot of what call nasties in the lake. >> you are trying to get these things from getting into lake erie. >> correct. what we do is, these facilities throughout the district, they are designed to channel material into this netting facility. >> the garbage is caused by cleveland's outdated storm drains which mix rainwater with household waste, dumping four and a half billion gallons of raw sewage into lake erie every year. it's a massive pollution problem the trump administration is considering addressing. part of its $1 trillion infrastructure bill. >> we are excited about that. this is a significant problem for cleveland. >> head of the northeast ohio regional sewer district in cleveland and is building seven humongous tunnels that would capture polluted storm water before it reaches like area. all of these being built below the city. >> yes, 270 feet. this one is 220 feet. >> each tunnel is going to be up to 5 miles long and up to 24 feet in diameter, wide enough to fit a tractor-trailer. this is a 25 year project that's going to cost $3 billion. >> and it's all borne by the repairs of northeast ohio. >> customers hoping that trump administration has a successful infrastructure bill. below cleveland, douglas kennedy, fox news. >> chris: up next, we will bring in the panel to discuss president trump's buyer's remorse over his own attorney general paired here is what some of our fox affiliates are covering tonight. fox 45 in baltimore, a police officer's powers suspended after defense attorneys release a body camera video they say shows an officer planting drugs. two other officers put on administrative duty. prosecutors beginning to drop the charges in some cases in which the officers made arrests. fox 40 in sacramento. authorities say stubborn wildfire burning west of yosemite national park has destroyed 45 structures while forcing thousands of people from their homes. the fire has scorched 109 square miles. live look at denver from fox 31, big story there a vigil for the victims of the shootings at an aurora movie theater five years ago tonight. 12 people were killed and more than 70 injured. the shooter is serving a life sentence in prison. that is nice live look outside the beltway from "special report" ." we'll be right back. dad: flash drives? 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to go without be a breach? >> i would say yes. >> chris: mollie, this comes as bloomberg news reports mueller is taking the investigation into trump's business dealings. particularly with regard to president trump and paul manafort. sounds like if you believe the bloomberg story, mueller is getting close to the redline. >> the question was, if they look at the finances apart from russia, with that cross redline? >> chris: do you think it's going to stop? how are you going to say, which is a russia business transaction in which isn't? >> you can go into any avenues. looking into one thing in going after other things. a couple months ago, seven days before he left office, president obama change the order of succession and the department of justice to put in a close ally of eric holder's in. if you are president trump and you know there are efforts to lay traps and coordinated leaks, you would be frustrated. all of these things, people are overstating how important it is he's talking about it. these are reasonable frustrations. we have a president who is very transparent and tells everybody what he's thinking. i'm not saying that's a good idea but that's what's happening. >> chris: i want to go back to the mueller point. he was specifically asked, would you fire mueller if he did that? he didn't say he would but he didn't say he wouldn't. >> he didn't say he wouldn't is the more important one. the problem isn't what barack obama's people did. these are donald trump's people, by and large. this is rod rosenstein, jeff sessions. i think the problem is, you are seeing the president in the interview with "the new york times" and over the last few days launch attacks on federal law enforcement, his own people. jeff sessions and rod rosenstein but the acting fbi director, former fbi director. obviously wants to discredit the investigation and that's been important. this is a tricky place for president trump to go when his credibility is in question. sarah huckabee sanders says in the briefing today that the president has confidence in jeff sessions when the president said yesterday he didn't have confidence in jeff sessions. >> chris: he has done it in talking about what comey did and the illegal leak led to the appointment of mueller. >> it is telling that nobody around him who's been asked about it has to rule out the possibility of firing mueller. some of the critiques are valid. the question is how often do you make them and if you make them in such a manner that leaves you less believable than the people you are criticizing. >> chris: and do you make them on the front page of "the new york times." when we come back, methods discipline -- message discipline in the white house. n our way. you can see exactly when we'll arrive. i'm micah with safelite. customer: thanks for coming, it's right over here. tech: giving you a few more minutes for what matters most. take care. kids singing: safelite® repair, safelite® replace. my bladder leakage was making me feel like i couldn't spend time with my grandson. now depend fit-flex has their fastest absorbing material inside, so it keeps me dry and protected. go to depend.com - get a coupon and try them for yourself. >> the day when the president was inaugurated, one of the most miserable six months, unproductive six months of any presidency. >> chris: house democratic leader nancy pelosi with a decidedly negative report card on president trump's for six months in office and we are back with the panel. steve, i want to pick up on the president in the interview with "the new york times." he had had a good day yesterday. he brought almost all of the republican senators into the white house to make an impassioned plea for health care and taking one more swing at it. you can argue whether that's going to happen or not. then he goes straight from there to the oval office to talk to "the new york times" reporters for 15 minutes in talking about russia. >> i'm sure the white house communicators would have preferred he stayed on health care and made his case brit hume moved his case a little bit over the previous days from "we are going to let it fail" to repeal only tow going back to the drawing board. he had a meeting with senators. from the people i've talked to who were in the meeting, there wasn't a ton of progress made pray they were talking past one another. rob portman was asking for more money. other senators saying we need to cut the spending in the bill. they didn't come out with much of a real resolution. then republicans met last night, seeming to sort of talk past one another. we are looking at a slim likelihood this is going to get done. >> chris: speaking of slim, mollie, let's bring in the john mccain equation and the news last night, the terrible news he has an aggressive form of brain cancer. obviously it's a personal blow to the senators but it also has a political ramification which is that the slim majority they had just got slimmer. >> senator mccain did tell his colleagues he would be back and he wants them to continue their work so we can come back and vote on a bill. we hope that no matter what the case, we hope he improves. i think the most important thing coming out of the meeting was that president trump emphasized he has a pen in hand and ready to sign. they need to get their work done. we have thought there were people who were hard-nosed but rand paul said so long as he's guaranteed a vote on repeal of repeal up front he will vote to proceed with the legislation. it comes down to other senators. whether they can be brought along. it is a slim path but there is still a path. everyone is distracted by russia and other things. i hear that this and that is making progress. >> chris: let's look at a tweet john mccain said. "i greatly appreciate the outpouring of support. unfortunately for my sparring partners in congress, i will be back soon. so standby." sounds just like john mccain. here was the reaction from perhaps his closest friend in the senate, lindsey graham. stickley has called me three times this morning. no more "woe is me, lindsey." she is yelling at me to buck up. so i'm going to buck up. >> chris: how big blow to the senate? >> it's tough. when ted kennedy came out in 2008, he was sort of the heart and soul of the democratic party. i think mccain has filled that role for republicans. he is well-liked by a lot of members. beyond the emotional piece is the practical piece, the political peace. his absence, for the time being, a problem for mcconnell. no margin for error. >> chris: charles, put it together, if you will. if terrible news about john mccain, health care vote next week, president trump going off on russia again. >> mccain, if he had to, he would be carried in on a stretcher to cast a vote. he's going to be there. he has overcome a lot more. it's a terrible disease but i think there is no reason why, for the short term, he shouldn't continue to be active. chemo and other such there be could weaken him but for the short-term, adult tickets going to have a difference. for the long term, i think he is the spirit of reaganism. more heroic than reagan himself and his own right but he carried the ideas of reagan, expansive, optimistic, america, confidence. and that is waning among republicans and the whole country. this is kind of a embolism in him being struck down by this illness. i think it reflects that, and we are going to miss him because he is the one -- i don't want to give an obituary. >> chris: i was going to say, let's not say goodbye yet. >> if you think of who would succeed mccain, i don't think he has a successor. >> chris: you talk about him and the republicans, he is beloved by democrats too. one of the few true legislators really interested in trying to work out of compromise. >> he was loved when he was running against republicans in 2000. not loved when he ran against barack obama. there is a double standard, especially in the press. it was extremely acute with john mccain. >> chris: point well made. next up, o.j. simpson wins a "get out of jail" card. people would ask me in different countries that we traveled, what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything. i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark? 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>> because of the shocking end of the trial for the murders. for most people, there are exceptions. it was a myth character of justice on an enormous scale. the nine years he spent was a kind of poetic justice. the guidelines, he served his time. he should be let go. anyone else would have been given less time for that crime. this is al capone on tax evasion. that's how everybody sees it. he should have been convicted for the murders. he wasn't, whatever. he won the case, the civil case. she was shown to be guilty and some funds with the smallest evidence. on the merit, it was a righteous thing to do but the fact is that o.j. is a cultural symbol. that's why everyone is riveted and their reaction is out of proportion with the importance of this case. >> chris: that was one of the things that charles just touched on. there is a fascinating disconnect between the parole board, judging simpson solely on this 2007 robbery and his behavior in prison since then and the rest of the world is judging him on the basis of the savage murder of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman back in 1994. >> charles put it correctly. it's a bit of poetic justice. what's fascinating is that i work in an office. we have a lot of millennials. i figured none of them would even know who o.j. was. some of them weren't even born at the time the trials had played. everyone was glued to this tv set. they all knew who he was. there is a documentary on espn, on fox, it's really kept his story alive and it's been enduring. it's still riveting to this day. >> chris: of course some key figures from the murder trial back in 1995 were brought back today, to comment on it. he was former prosecutor. >> if you are really remorseful and a born-again christian, let's move this discussion forward and admit. >> chris: i don't think that's likely to happen, molly, your thoughts on this latest chapter in the o.j. saga? >> i think people might have forgotten that oj was in prison. everyone that was alive during this remembers where they were when that verdict came down. i'm one of those people that charles referenced -- i'm not saying that oj was innocent but i don't think the government made their case in the double homicide. it's not a popular theme but on that jury, i would have sided with the jury given what they knew. it captured everybody's imagination. there were issues of race and class tied up in the spirit o.j. -- we now think of him in terms of his murder but he was an amazing sport star and they enjoyed him in the airplane movies and his acting there was not so good as we have seen sense but it's a tremendous cultural moment. >> chris: some people have said he was the most famous contemporary figure to ever be accused of murder and that's part of the fascination, nobody that famous and people who are younger don't realize back in the '90s in '80s how famous o.j. simpson was. does he now go back to being a golf player in florida and we all forget about him? >> he crossed over with the buffalo bills to doing commercials. i still think of o.j. simpson every time i'm running through an airplane. to be in the airplane movies, the naked gun movies -- if leslie nielsen hadn't died, maybe they could have revived the naked gun movies. david sucker once told me if he ever did a naked gun again, it would be beating a dead horse but leslie nielsen isn't around to join him. >> chris: i don't think any producer is going to put o.j. simpson on screen. his justice too much to ask when it comes to o.j. simpson? >> look, he got nine years for a crime that for anybody who wasn't him, it would have been two or three years. justice was stretched in one case where the majority of people, molly excluded, it was driven into the ground in another case. there is a comic justice. it doesn't do the crime. it doesn't undo the crime. i think to plead guilty no contest -- he wasn't the cleanest of characters. let it rest. the judgment today was a just one. let it rest at that. >> chris: that's it for the panel but will be compact, a visit to disney world. you won't want to miss. people who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams they're handing us more than mail they're handing us their business and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you ♪ ♪ >> chris: finally tonight, there's a reason they call it the happiest place on earth. when courtney anton gilmore took their foster children to disney world, jenny and elijah, they thought the highlight was going to be meeting mickey mouse but mickey had a much bigger surprise, telling them that they gilmore's were formally adopting them. >> you are here! hi. its adoption. >> chris: even better than space mountain. i am chris wallace in washington. "the story" hosted by martha maccallum starts right about now. >> martha: the real class of celebrity and brutality that is o.j. simpson. once again, glued to our tvs. he was the story. good evening, i am martha maccallum. from the heisman to the hertz man to the first 911 call. >> can you get someone over here now? he's back. >> okay, what does he look like? >> he's o.j. simpson. i think you know his record. >> what is he doing there? >> chris: >> martha: the brutalr

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