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we are coming to you live from sin dalla island, the very windy island in saudi arabia on the red sea where it is 1:00 thursday morning tonight exclusive in-depth interview with one of the most powerful people in the world. saudi arabia's de facto ruler, crown prince mohammed bin salman relation with the kingdom. iran nuclear ambitions, negotiations with israel. saudi oil policy. the murder of "the washington post" columnist jamal khashoggi and the crown prince's message to families of victims of the 9/11 attacks. this is the first time he has done an interview completely in english. usually on "special report" roadshows. this is the time we bring you other headlines in the u.s. and around the world. but tonight, there are so many headlines coming out of this interview. we do not want to delay. here is his royal highness, the crown prince of saudi arabia, mohammed bin salman. >> bret: this is the island of sin dalla, the first project in neom, your version 2030 it is beautiful. a lot of people have described you as a vision leader. i talk to a number of your citizens and that's how they describe you. you didn't plant them. that's really how they talk about you. and world leaders are saying the same thing. you have had this transformational change. every aspect of the kingdom, economic, social, cultural, religious. can you give us some specific examples of what your goals are and how you think all of this is going? >> simply we have in the past saudi arabia opportunities try to capture that and go forward for saudi arabia. that's what we are trying to do. >> bret: and it is a big vision it? >> is a big vision. we get like surprised every day that we reach our targeting faster and we extend that to a newer target and bigger ambition. it's exciting. >> bret: ministers say you work from heart. >> what you can't see we have the fastest g-20 country growing. this year if you take -- we are the second fastest in the g-20 growing. saudi arabia and india. a good fight. >> bret: you are making a transition on trying to get different parts of the economy, not a heavy reliance on oil. the role of women in the society has evolved significantly. you know, you had this 2030, what do you see 10, 20, 30 years for saudi arabia? >> i will give you an example. if you look to late '70s, saudi arabia vis-a-vis bigger than south korea. and south korea is the tenth or 11th. in the world. in 2016 and 2016 we are number 20. so that's a shame. in 1980, we was 12 globally and then 2016 we are number 20. so we believe saudi arabia and really the perfect clock since that time we will be among the top globally. i'm trying to get saudi arabia back on the right track. >> bret: you are a data guy. >> today we are number 70 ranked as the largest g.d.p. in the world. g-20 ranked 15 from 20. >> bret: g-20 you mentioned it. you have really become a big player on the world stage. that g-20 rail and ports deal connecting europe, the gulf nations and india, why is that such a big deal? >> logistics, if you want to move goods, it's important to have good logistic plan, work it with many countries, many regions to be sure that goods pass at the right time. for example, that project will cut the time of goods from india to europe by three to six days. cut time, save money, and small safer, more efficient. so, why not? it's not only about moving goods port. it's about making grids, energy grids, data, cables. and other stuff will benefit europe, the middle east, and also india. and most of these -- all of these areas are going to be green energy. going to be able to produce middle east and export europe and india. it's a big deal for europe and for india. >> bret: also mentioned in this deal is israel. what would it take for you to agree to normalize relations with israel? >> when there is a support from president biden administration to get to that point, for us the issue very important we need to solve that part. and we have a good negotiations continue to now. we got to see what we go. we hope that the reach a place that it will ease the life of the palestinians and get israel as a player middle east. >> bret: there were reports that you had suspended talks. >> no, no. that's not true. >> bret: not true. you think if you were to characterize it, are you close? >> everyday we get closer. it seems it's for the first time serious. see how it goes. >> bret: can you make a deal with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu? is that somebody you can deal with? >> well, in saudi arabia policy, we don't interfere with who is owning each country. we work with him. now we don't have a relation with israel. but, if the biden administration maked send the end of the end of the cold war. then we relationship. that relationship got to be continues regardless of who is wanting israel. so,. >> bret: he is 73. you are 38. but you think maybe there's a chance you could deal with him? >> if we have a breakthrough of reaching a deal that give the palestinians their needs and make the region come, we got work with whoever is there. >> bret: not to go too far but the concessions israel would have to give the palestinians, what would that look like? >> that's part of the negotiation. >> bret: okay. >> i don't discuss things because i want to see really a good life for the palestinians, so i want to continue the negotiation with the biden administration to be sure. >> bret: would there be a defense pact maybe between the saudi arabia and the united states and what would that -- would it look like article 5 in nato? >> first of all, we have some sort of that in the past 18 years. we are the biggest buyer from american auto manufacturing. i believe saudi arabia bigger than the next five buyers from america. so, saudi arabia is critical in your import economically. and we have a lot of security military ties that really strengthen the position of saudi arabia in the middle east and strengthen the position of america globally, especially in middle east. we don't that to be shifted. you don't want to see saudi arabia shifting the armament from america to another place. strengthen that. it would strengthen the interest of america, interest. military interest and economic interest and also had will save effort and headache from the saudi side of not switching to other places. >> bret: you know, there are many people who wonder why you first norm 3458izeed relations with iran, a long-time enemy, who, back in 2017, attacked your oil facilities. but, yet, not yet israel. can you explain that? >> based in situation and politics so we have a long fight with iran since '79. we don't want to be that middle east if there is a possibility to shift that and to go to prosperity and interest and working with the iran and working with other middle eastern, working in the middle east. why not? so iraqis in 2020. they start to do that kind of negotiation. we have few obstacles. come, in solve it. we hope that continues and also we see from the iranians that they are taking this very seriously and they are doing their best so we are investing in that. >> bret: that's a big change and clearly you can see outside the box on these deals. you know, you can look to that. are you concerned though iran iran gets a nuclear weapon about them getting a nuclear weapon. >> when we are concerned any country gets a nuclear weapon, that's a bad move. don't need to get nuclear weapon because you can't use it. even if iran gets a nuclear weapon. any country use nuclear weapon that means he are having a war with the rest of the world. the world cannot see another hhiroshima. in the world see 100,000 people dead, that means you are in a war with the rest of the world. so to use this effort to use a nuclear weapon. you can't use it. if you use it you are going to have a big fight with the rest of the world. >> bret: if you get one, will you. >> if they get one, we have to get one for security reason middle east. we don't want to see that. a lot of the world experts saying how you could isolate iran and prevent them from doing what they have been doing and then just the image of your saudi team football team going to tehran to play is just striking, right? that's good. very warm welcome for the saudi team. saudi take that positively. >> bret: fighting in this war against you. just today high level talks over the past five days with the houthi rebels inside the kingdom and the quote from your people was that it was positive. secretary blinken said this is a time of opportunity do you think it is? >> yeah. definitely. from day one is to have good life for them and good life for the whole country in the reasonable. for us in saudi arabia to progress to do really great progress and great growth and creating amazing economy in saudi arabia and have close to 100 percent succeeding of what you are trying to get that mean we need stable region. to say have a stable region, you need the development in the whole region. you don't need to see problems in yemen. you need so see going really forward. see iran go really forward. you see the rest of the region going forward and we are walking with egypt and other places in the region and also the global players and allies in america to make that happen. that's good for the rest of the world because you see, isis come out, al-qaeda come out. terrorist attack come out. piraciy come out. so you don't want to see these events. the rest of the world and for more growth in a place that creates problems in the past few decades. >> bret: obviously more than 150,000 people died in yemen. it's been a big humanitarian crisis. but you all put in billions of dollars to help in that, and it doesn't get covered a lot. do you think it's close to kind of wrapping up? >> when we are the biggest country in the world who gives aid to yemen in the past and today and tomorrow we want to increase that and also we want to start to invest in yemen in the comical part all sides of yemen and in the process of doing that no political agreement yet but we are trying to push all the areas forward day by day. >> just a couple more things on iran. do you think it was a good idea for the u.s. to allow iran to access that $6 billion in exchange for the five american hostages? >> you can't say it's better policy but i would say that it's a step, i hope that iranians show getting that 6 billion, getting those american backs is worth the effort because that would encourage to do more. >> bret: you mentioned china brokering that with iran. that surprised some folks. why choose china in that role? >> we didn't choose china. >> bret: chose you? >> china chose to be make that happen. >> bret: there are signs of change obviously the renewal of relations with iran brokered by china. possibly joining brics. china is a big component of that. is the kingdom re-evaluating its security partnerships, trying to think of different ways to do it? >> no, no, brics is not about political alignments. if you look at the g-20. you have two groups inside the g 20. the g-7 and brics inside g-20. we tried to join the g 7 president trump time but some of the countries in g-7 have like requirement to be part of that and we are seeing that if we continue for one decade without being part of group inside the g-20 that could really create obstacles for us economically so brics is option. they invite us and we welcome that and brics is not a group against america or the west. you have allies. you have india, brazil and south africa. also are your allies. >> bret: you talk to all these world leaders. i mean, you talk to all of them. when is the last time you talked to president xi? >> i'm not sure. >> two full months. we talk a lot. >> bret: how do you see him? what's he like? >> well, he is trying to do the best for china. and he have all the right to do that. he is a leader of a country and he wants his country to succeed and to grow and he have more than 1 billion people. you don't need to see china failing. if you see china feeling it's around 15, 14% of the g.d.p. it's around 15 to 20% of the world population. that country falls, everyone on the planet falls, even america. >> bret: yeah. you know, obviously there is a lot of concern in the u.s. about taiwan. as you know president xi, when it comes to that issue, what do you think his vision 2030 is? >> we believe in one china and believe america believing in that. there is few arrangement there. i believe the chinese is respecting that to now and look forward how it goes. >> bret: what about russia? you deal with president putin, what's your thought about russia inside ukraine? what is happening there something bad don't want to see continue vationd a country something against the rules of the u.n. saudi vote against that. excuse why they did that. expanding the nato, et cetera, their list of excuse. but invading a country is really bad. saudi arabia we have a good relationship with russia and also good relation with ukraine. amazing and critical trade with ukraine and russia. so for us we try to do our best to push for solve this problem. >> bret: you tried to host peace talks. russia didn't come. but, i wanted to ask you about supporting russia. i spoke to your energy minister who was fantastic, prince abdulazeez about your decision for oil production cuts. and he told me that it was based on volatility and trying to stabilize the market. there are some supporters of continue doing that and prices spiking have you essentially boosted russia's war effort at a time when the country -- every country, a lot of countries are trying to squeeze him to get out of ukraine. how do you deal with that? >> you are talking about support of ukraine. how about the president of the ukraine? what did he say? he say something against that he said saudi arabia is supporting ukraine. supporting to solve the problem between ukraine and russia and help in that area. and if we are doing a deal to support russia, iran is part of the country and at that time iran was don't have that alliance we have today. we are supporting iran at that time. that doesn't make any sense. bret. demand. if there is shortage of supply, our economic fill that. shortage stability of the market. >> bret: nothing about that. >> purely about demand and supply. >> bret: it is coming up on the five year anniversary of the brutal murder of journalist jamal khashoggi and your consulate in turkey. u.s. intelligence reported to you as ordering that attack. i have heard you address this several times saying you didn't order the murder, saying it was horrible and a mistake and that as a leader you take responsibility as a leader of the country. but, five years later, what do you tell people in the u.s. who still have concerns and journalists may be around the world and maybe potential tourists who would come here to sindalah that they wonder if anything changed or if it could happen again? >> well, we take all the legal measurements that any country took like when america had in iraq, investigation, trial, we did that in saudi arabia and the case being closed. and also we tried to reform the security system to be sure that these kind of mistakes doesn't happen again. and we can't see in the past five years nothing of those things happen. it's not something saudi arabia do. and last 100 year. it was a mistake. it was painful. and we are trying our best to be sure that we are far more to walk by the book and to be sure that everyone is safe. not just sawedy, the whole globe. >> did anyone involved in the killing serve jail time? >> yes, serve jail time. have to face the law. >> you are trying to change the law broadly broadly to sentencee realistic? >> more realistic for us saudi, not for foreign people. but we believe today it's far away [inaudible] saudi. we are not proud of all of our laws in saudi arabia. >> bret: there was in a.p. associated press article that just came out a couple weeks ago with the headline that said saudi man receives death penalty for posts online. latest case in wide ranging crackdown on descent. i desdealing with his post on x, formerly twitter. so, one, is that true? and, two, are you changing that aspect? >> yeah. shamely it's true. somethingy like. >> bret: can't you change that. >> we are doing our best to deal with that. we already have a few laws. changes tens of laws in saudi arabia. the list have more than 1,000 items. in the cabinet they have only 150 lawyers. i'm trying to prioritize the change day by day but we are not happy with that we are ashamed of that, but the to follow the laws and i cannot tell a judge that do that and ignore the law because that will -- that's against the rule of law. do we have bad laws? yes. we are changing that, yes. >> bret: do you think that guy is going to get killed for the post? >> i believe there is a few steps and trials. i'm hoping that the next phase of trials the judge there is more experienced and they might look at it totally different. >> bret: recently in the u.s. rerememberred the 22nd anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. as you know 15 of the 19 hijackers were saudis. and the 9/11 victims' families, you know, they make their feelings clear, especially around the anniversary that they believe there is intelligence that somehow links the saudi government to supporting or facilitating those hijackers. what do you say to those 9/11 families 22 years later? >> i'm very sorry that anyone lose anyone in anyone's family. no one wants to lose their family especially in a way like that. yes, there were 15 saudis being planned by usama bin laden. usama bin laden planned a lot of attacks inside saudi arabia. it doesn't make any sense that we work with a guy who is doing terrorist attacks in saudi arabia in the 1990s and after that and killing saudis and foreign people tad in saudi arabia. he is a war enemy and american enemy. the man for usama bin laden and by reports. the recruit as much as they can -- he can saudis to be sure that he create a problem between america and saudi arabia. so, if people in america fall for that, that means he succeeded in his plan. >> bret: you are credited with going after jihadi extremism in the country. >> the country was conservative before. saudi arabia was conservative. america was conservative before. time change. reform comes. that's what happened in saudi arabia. >> bret: after the khashoggi killing president biden called sawedy the pariah nation and he visited here closed fist pump. warm hand and a smile g-20. it's fair to say the relationship with saudi is complicated. how would you describe your current relationship with president biden? >> the only thing that doesn't change in politic that is changing. so, always a change in politic that serve your goals as a nation. we have today great work with president biden. we are working in the big work building between india, saudi arabia, europe, we are working with peace arrangement with israel and palestine. we have the longest cease-fire in yemen and there is a lot of good progress to create political solution and we have a lot of work and security, stability in the region beyond in ukraine. we have amazing work and technology, r and d. 6 g. america, space industry. and many areas. so, agenda between saudi arabia and america today is really interesting and we have amazes relation with president biden. >> bret: you talk with him behind the scenes in the u.s. right now there is a lot of focus even from his own party about his age. he is 80. you are 38 as i mentioned. you have worked with him. you have met with him. what's your assessment? >> he is sharp. he is really well-focused. well prepared. that's what i see. >> bret: yeah. are you following american politics closely? do you? >> sometime. but. >> bret: don't have a lot of time? >> mostly i try to follow what's really affecting saudi arabia. but i follow sometime american politics. >> bret: is it hard to deal with the u.s. when the administrations change every four to eight years and maybe foreign policy changes? >> well, sometimes, you know, changes is any country always create like let's say a period of negotiation. so, we are used to that any legislation change in america we start to negotiate what we have together. and obstacles wanted these plan to work in the next few years. >> bret: you had a good relationship with former president trump and then president and his administration. you know, there is several investigations right now with president biden and his son hunter the money he took in from a cou country company in ukraind china. made effect on biden in the decisions he made. in the trump administration you had a really close relationship with the president's senior adviser and son-in-law jared kushner. after he left saudi fund made $2 billion investment in jared's fund he was launching and managing. do you think it sends the wrong message even if there wasn't a tit-for-tat i will give you this and you get that? >> we look to opportunities and investment. we have a lot of investment around the globe with other people and connectivity. >> bret: if trump becomes president again, you'll leave the 2 billion with jared kushner? >> it's a commitment that pif. and when pif have investment with investor around the globe keep it. >> bret: would it affect your decisions with a new trump administration with that sitting there? >> >> saudi arabia is so big. i'm quite sure mostly any person around the world directly or indirectly have something to do with saudi arabia. if that can effect president trump decision, if he become the president that means it's going to effect every president in the every president in the world decision. have some sort of interest. >> bret: well, there you go. the other question i wanted to ask you is you are a sports fan. >> yes, definitely. >> where were you when saudi beat argentina in the world cup and what was your reaction. >> i was with my family, brothers, wives, their kids you, watching the game actually we just want to get out from this game with no -- we get surprised. >> bret: it fired up people here. i talked to a ton of them. they were really excited. do you think football, soccer in the u.s. is changing the dynamic here that it's almost another national identity? >> when we want to inspire the economy, you have to work in all sectors mining, manufacturing, logistics. part of it is tourism. if you want to have tourism, you need to to double up your culture sector and entertainment sector and sports sector. we can see tourism participate in saudi arabia g.d.p. 3%. today it's 7%. sport is saudi arabia 0.4%. today it's 1.5%. so, it's growth jobs, it's entertainment, it's tourism, and you can see we are now ranked number one in the middle east. six years ago we are not even in the top ten list in the middle east. we are now in 2022, we are number tenth of global visit globally. that's really great success. we are aiming to get above 100 million visits in 2050. last year almost 40 million visits from saudi arabia and globally, so, seems like we are going there. >> bret: tourism minister keep setting a new goal. >> yes because we reach the goal fast. >> bret: you are spending a ton on sports, a lot of money. big names that people are very familiar with. big teams, big facilities. what do you say to the people who charge that that's part of sports washing? that you are trying to use all of that to somehow improve or somehow affect your image? >> sports washing increase and then. >> i don't care 1% growth. i'm aiming for another 1.5%. call it whatever you want. we have to get that 1.5%. >> bret: are you a golfer? >> i'm of good. >> bret: you don't have a lot of time to practice? >> that's part of it. but, try to do my best. >> who what do you make of liv golf and personals with the pga. >> that's a change. you will have competition and you will have focus in developing the game and that's good for the players and the fans who love golf. >> bret: is there something you feel in the country that's changing because of everything you've done like do you see young people buying in? in and of itself game changer not from the top down but bottom up? >> well, it's not everything that i have done. it's everything we have done in saudi arabia. i'm just one of them. and if the people doesn't buy in, it will not work. so, first people have to believe in it everyone have to push to make all the progress we are having in saudi arabia. going really well. fastest growing country in the planet and we have the most ambition projects in all sectors. we are fastest each industry in the planet. >> bret: at some time you will be king here. how is your father? >> he is 88 years old. he? good health. a long life, a healthy life for him. >> custodian of the two holy mosque is a title held by the saudi king and it's a really serious responsibility. always well understood in the u.s. could you say something for our viewers about the obligation that applies to the saudi king how big a deal that is in the broader islam? >> well, the two holy site in saudi arabia, two holy site muslims. five times a day and they have to visit one time life. you are talking about almost two billion people in on the planet. you have the prophet. so the duty of any king of saudi arabia and the duty of all saudi people is to serve those two places and serve the visitors of those places. i believe we did a wonderful job in that area. >> bret: thank you for answering all of these questions. i just spent the past three days here, and i have visited here many, many times before. and i personally have seen major transformation. not just for women but the buildings and cranes and how people look at this country. for people on the outside looking at this what would you tell them if they want to come visit. ththey may be skittish because f what was written in the past what they say see what would you tell them? >> i would tell them the greatest success story in the 21st century is saudi arabia. in is the story of the century. do you want to miss it or not? that's your call. >> bret: and do you think you are going to slow down at all. >> no, no. we try to speed up every day. >> bret: your royal highness we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> bret: we actually are going to hear more from the crown prince a little bit later. up next, the panel reacts to our interview. then attorney general merrick garland's contentious appearance on capitol hill.d ol ♪ arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache, and joint pain. i chose arexvy. rsv? make it arexvy. ♪ we're not writers, but we 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was impressive interview. is he an impressive man. something we don't get an handle on. we don't see him talking the way he did in this interview if at all. it was a revelation it. could make the argument, bret, that this man and his country is making as big a difference as any leader in the world is making in his or hers. so to hear him is impressive. obviously the eye catching soundbites if iran gets a nuclear weapon saudi would have to get one and all he said about the relationship and possible normalization relations with israel was very interesting and quite helpful, i thought. it does seem that the biden administration has thought better of its attempts to make his regime a pariah that seems to be on track had when from what we heard from him. >> bret: at 38 years old, is he going to be around. is he going to be a player in the world for decades to come. if this normalization deal with israel happens, he called it the biggest deal since the cold war. it could be bigger in the big picture. >> dana: i think history would judge that very favorably, of course. i was impressed with the interview. i'm interested to learn more about him. i think that he does have a history that is somewhat unsettling and ruthless. you asked him about that, and it was right to do so. also interesting aside from the geopolitical questions. for example, ukraine, russia, china questions. those were very good. but it is interesting to see what a new generation of leadership can do. you and i were in 2008 on that presidential trip. to say know the difference of what has happened for young people and the women and the fact there is more access to news, information, they are even going to start making video games there and he has an interesting viewpoint and a vision. he has all the money in the world to do it. i thought that was an interesting thing. but i also would say this relationship could be complex, complicated, and a little unsettling going forward. but it is a hopeful message and one that i think that gives us reason to think that we could have a good relationship going forward. >> it's really interesting also, harold, to hear him, see him speak in english. it's the first interview he has ever done in english. that, i think, goes to say he wanted to talk to our viewers. he wanted to talk to america and kind of introduce himself in a different way. >> harold: i echo what everyone has said. the interview was substantive. i was interested hearing him talk about two things. one he talked about the economic groveport the country. he talked about how exciting as you think about the 21st sen dry and the role that saudi arabia will play. he talked about the new trade relationships and the synergiys and ability to connect with other parts of the world when yu think about american industry he was speaking directly to us and helping us understand this is a new generation of leadership there. i was reminded much the great american arthur james baldwin who once said that people are trapped in history and sometimes history is trapped in people. he betrayed them tonight, this evening in that interview. interviewed him a little while ago by suggesting not only to the american people but to the world this is a new day and if they are able to get this deal done with the israelis, the impact that will have on the u.s. and the region, the positive impact can't be understated he has his hands and plate full but it was encouraging to watch him this evening. >> well, it's fascinating. we will continue to break this down. i do want to get to other news there was other news today. not a lot of it but we want to bring you some of that the president's attorney general took to some considerable fire today during an appearance on capitol hill. merrick garland was questioned about the justice department involvement and possible interference with investigations into president biden's family business dealings. correspondent david spunt is in washington tonight with the latest on that. good evening, david. >> bret, good evening to you. attorney general merrick garland was the chief witness today but it might as well have been special counsel david weiss or hunter biden. their names were mentioned so much. >> the fix is in. even with the face-saving indictment last week of hunter biden, everyone knows the fix is in. four and a half years, four and a half years the department of justice has been investigating mr. biden an investigation run by david weiss. an investigation that limited the number of witnesses agents could interview. >> garland appointed david weiss to special counsel status after the u.s. attorney from delaware, a trump appointee, personally made the request. >> i reaffirm today i am not a president's lawyer. i will add, i am not congress' prosecutor. the justice department works for the american people. >> but republicans repeatedly pressed garland about the failed hunter biden plea deal arguing it amounts to a dual system of justice. >> has anyone from the white house provided direction at any time to you personally or to any senior officials at the doj regarding how the hunter biden investigation was to be carried out? >> no. >> garland also pressed on a controversial memo that appeared in the richmond fbi field office earlier this year. critics say the document lays out a plan for the fbi to use members of the catholic church's sources to sniff out radical catholics with suspected ties to potential violent extremism. >> the idea that someone with my family background would discriminate against any religion is so outrageous so absurd,. >> mr. attorney general it was your fbi that did this. it was your fbi that was sending and we have the memos. we have the emails were sending under cover agents into catholic churches. >> the attorney general has said on the record several times, bret, that his family escaped nazi persecution during the second world war. the memo was removed from fbi systems shortly after it was published earlier this year with respect to the other big topic as i mentioned hunter biden, we are learning, bret, he will be in court on october 3rd. he is expected to plead not guilty on felony gun charges. he was indicted last week. bret, back to you. >> bret: david spunt in washington. david, thanks. we are back with our panel. brit, dana and harold. brit, what do you make of the capitol hill hearing and where this is all going? >> a lot of sound of fury up there today and a lot of attacks on merrick garland. he does not answer questions very fully he says he can't in many cases. i don't think they got anything out of him that would make a headline. if there were any headlines out of the hearing it was all about the republican members attacking him for all accomplished. i'm not sure it accomplished very much. i also don't think it did a single thing to elevate and present low standing in the justice department in the eyes of the public. >> bret: dana? >> i would say missed opportunity to reassure americans on both sides of the aisle that there are no two systems of justice. he didn't do that also, i think it's very interesting to be the head of an agency and say that you only know about scandals referring to your agency by things that you read in the press. he is in a position to know and find out and he decided not to. on the october 3rd hearing that hunter biden has to have, his lawyers are asking for him to be able to do it by zoom because he doesn't want to go and disrupt things in delaware. think about what president trump has had to go through in terms of stopping traffic and all these different places they have been indicted. if they let hunter biden do that by zoom, it would be wrong. >> hunter biden and jared kushner and a question to the crown prince interesting to hear him answer he would leave the money there no matter what. >> harold: he shared american politics as he shared. i think brit is right, the hearing didn't get too much more pulings show two and three americans or almost 70% of america has distrust in government and august of our agencies. when people think of politics, 70% of americans think of two words, corrupt and divisive. we have a long way to go here. >> well, panel, thanks so much. big night. and i will be heading back your way. we will see you in a bit. thanks. >> harold: travel safe. >> bret: we conclude our interview with the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman next. we will find out what he does to relax. >> bret: you are a big gamer. >> since i'm a kid i love it. >> bret: really? >> disconnect me from reality. >> bret: golfer? this is a golf course. handicap. >> handicap plus 36. it's horrible. 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[laughter] >> yeah. >> bret: what are you looking forward to coming up? every day is something big for you, listening to your ministers. what are you looking to the next thing? >> so, today we are trying to close a few things that we are able to close it first half of 2024 start for vision 2040. and vision 2040 and 2027 and 2028. that's the main thing we are focusing on. >> bret: do you think that the perception of saudi is changing? do you sense that? >> what i hope that is happening for us in saudi arabia we don't look at that for us in saudi arabia when we do change we look to our people needs and to our economy needs. change the per speption positively, great. >> bret: yeah. we really appreciate the time. and we look forward to seeing where saudi arabia is by 2030 and beyond. >> thank you. >> bret: thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> bret: our thanks to the crown prince. some final thoughts from sindalah island on the red sea when we come back.ike ♪ down. and my patents say: “you know doc, it really works." your brain is an amazing thing. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. mlb chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions... ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. 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