andy. thank you. let's welcome our guests. she's gorgeous. everyone has to be nice to her. her bleeding heart's been broken since november 8th. democratic strategist jessica tarlov. he's loopier than a blue angels air show. comedian nick mullen. he's made more money from harassing phone calls than the guys who kidnapped frank sinatra jr. comedian jim florentine, whose new comedy special, a simple man, is out december 9th. and like a sardine, he's salty and often canned. sitting next to me, host of the gavin mcinnes show, gavin mcinnes. okay. let's start the show. ♪ i have some great news for fans of bucky balls. the popular desktop toys are legal again after winning a court case against federal regulators. in 2012, the obama administration's consumer product safety commission or cpsc, waged war on the company after toddlers started swallowing the magnets and going to the emergency room, e.r. despite clear warnings about risks to children and pets. the company, which was making millions, fought back. running ads in various applicatio publications including an open letter to president obama in "the washington post." ceo craig zucker felt the cpsc wanted to ban anything that poses risk, telling esquire the argument is that warnings don't work. if that's the case, then we need to think of all the current products on the market that are intended for adults that come with warning labels, laundry detergent, adult size atvs, balloons. but the federal regulations prevailed and bucky balls were banned. now, four years later after a victory in court, they're back but with a new name. balls by bucky. so, gavin, what do you think of these things? these are a great item. i was following this case. >> well, it just sounds like america finally has the courage to give us our novelty toy back. it's true. it rights itself. >> jessica, the bucky daballs, they are dangerous to children, but shouldn't adults be able to keep bucky balls on their desk? >> i guess so. i had no idea what these were. >> you never heard of these? >> no. i think everyone else on our panel -- >> no, nick hasn't either. >> i've been doing stand-up for over two decades. i don't have a desk. i write jokes in my car and at a bar when i'm drufrpg. >> some people like these for the dashboard of their car, bucky balls. >> i have lozenges. when i drive drunk, i can cover it up. >> what kind cover it up? >> the red ones. my friend's a lawyer. he said use these. >> you come out of law school. you're like use the red ones. but, gavin, i guess in most cases you're against regulation. but you also have children. so where would you stand on the bucky balls controversy? >> puns aside, you know what the danger is with magnets, right? if you swallow one, it goes in your intestines. then you swallow the other one and when they meet, they get stuck together and now nothing can get down and you can't eat and we got to operate on you. that's why pets can't have them. >> and kids, same thing. it's true. kids were having serious gastrointestinal problems. >> they might, right. but it's a very infinitesimally small chance you're going to end up there. so the government doesn't handle that. we'll handle our magnet buying, thank you. thank you for liberating us and allowing us to have something else. so much of the government planning and all this liberal is based on this really, really tiny chances, these hypotheticals. >> but if we can save people from the tiny chance that your kid gets three bucky balls stuck in their intestinal system or can't get them out. >> if we can just save one life. >> what if it's a baby mcinnes. >> yes, let's bring my children into it, make me irrational. >> that's what liberals do, and we win. >> they say, what if your daughter was murdered, and all of a sudden you're going, okay. make the magnets go away. >> well, i think i got to go to nick. >> well, i don't know. i guess i would be anti-regulation in most cases. but these are just magnets. he didn't invent magnets. >> but he produced them and he had a whole warehouse foul of them. >> i don't care. how has he been following this legal battle? >> look, these were hot sellers, and people loved -- they would wile away the hours. >> like pokemon for a week. >> he's got nine of them in his small intestine. >> i got to be honest. i never heard of them either. >> had you really, or your writers told you. >> when they were banned, i thought it was a great injustice because the company were making big money. and it was a fad, but they were making money hand over fist and all of a sudden they said -- they were in every toy store in america. so i think, you know -- >> everything is a danger to kids. >> he made a great argument, jim, that you'd have to ban everything including those detergent pods, which kids are eating like candy now. >> a kid could put anything in his mouth. if he's putting three magnets in a row in his mouth, there's something wrong with him. after one, you probably go it wasn't a good idea. then you swallow it down with two more? you're on your own. >> they should have to wait until their 18 before they're allowed to swallow a bunch of magnets and kill themselves. >> forget the relglations. moving on, some of the democratic parties biggest donors feel like they just set their money on fire, and i don't think they really did. i think they were talking about hillary clinton's election loss. one tough fund-raiser for hillary told the hill website that he and others are shell shocked and don't feel inclined to help the dems going forward. another big donor from florida says from now on he's giving his money to charities instead. many donors are also still reeling from their names being released by the wikileaks dnc e-mail hack. says one official, they're tired. they're upset about the election, and there was significant trauma surrounding the russians. they're upset, and they're tired. we spoke with top democratic donor lilly von schtupp. ♪ >> jessica, you know her, right? >> totally. she's going to be the new dnc chair. >> by the way -- >> did i max out to hillary? >> was your name on any of these hacked e-mails? >> yes. but not in a bad way. it was just a few of them where they were transcripts of fox segments, like what people were saying. so i mean obviously i was glowing about my gal, but it was interesting because the reason that i thought that they were tracking this stuff is to kind of take the temperature of hillary supporters about certain things because i wasn't a surrogate. there were times where i said this is just crap, right? >> you didn't have to toe the line. >> there was no line-toeing. so i think that's why they were following some of these segments, but i think it was three or four times. i was not a major feature. >> gavin, obviously they're hurting. the donors, they feel like their money was wasted. was it wasted? >> isn't that proof, though, that you can buy votes? you can buy influence, and the white house was up for sale? if you're mad that you didn't get your way and it wasn't -- they're admitting it wasn't gambling, and they're admitting that they paid money for something they didn't get, and they're mad. if you're mad, that's not gambling. that's buying. >> it makes sense to me. the thing is, though, shouldn't they -- i mean they paid so much money, these donors. of course they feel like they're entitled to something. >> well, that's not the deal in democracy. and i think everyone should be turned off from all donations to political campaigns because we're seeing she raised, what, $1.3 billion. she went up 84% in the last week, spent $30 million on tv ads. and as ann coulter points out, tv ads don't work. all these political experts don't work. all that money, the whole infrastructure, is done now. >> done. that's what i think. florentine, i think that the money -- it's all over. but they're going to try to keep doing this. do you think it's time to overhaul the whole -- i'm not talking about campaign finance reform. i'm just talking about don't take ads out anymore. it's a waste of money. >> it is. it just annoys people in the middle of a football game, seeing a bunch of sad kids going, oh, donald trump said this. what am i going to say to my kids? i can't believe he said that. they're going to cry the next day in school. it's stupid, and it doesn't work. look, of course they're going to be pissed. i gamble a lot on football. if someone goes put five grand on denver, it's my lock of the year, and i put five grand on it, and i lose. it's a lock, just like hillary was supposed to be a lock, and then a week later, he goes put three grand on the jets, it's another lock. i'm like, no, i'm not listening to. i got a hangover, plus who puts money in the jets anyway? guaranteed to lose. >> you go, wait a minute, if you're mad at the jets, then the game was fixed. you know what i mean? you're getting mad at the players on the team. you're not supposed to know the players on the team. >> so i can't go back to my bookie and say that wasn't fair. that's what they're trying to do. >> this is also like a top of the ticket down ballot difference issue here. a lot of these people are still going to give down ballot to the races. we know that -- >> you're talking about all the senators and congress people. >> we did take back seats. we didn't gain control. >> not as many as you wanted, jessica. >> of course not. think people want to know f you're someone who gives money or cares about these things, you want to know your local representative is of the party you are. they're going to be giving to more local causes than giving to the top because i don't think we know how elections are going to look in 2020. we have no idea if this trump effect is going to continue. are we going to revert back to how it was before? i think that people will continue to give locally. >> sounds like a real sales pitch to me, nick. what do you think in. >> i think donating to anything is for suckers. across the board, yeah. >> it's a good tax write-off, though. >> but you can buy things and you deduct it as a business expense. >> obviously it would be dumb for you because your money -- it would be gone. >> i don't have any money. >> if you were a rich man of industry and you had like the koch brothers, they give money. when they get the politicians in that they want, it ends up actually making them billions, isn't that right? so it is worth it to them. >> i have no idea. sure. maybe that's how it works. i'm trying to buy lunch tomorrow. >> it works. i mean they're the ones that have to, you know, they have to look at this new system. >> the koch brothers aren't too worried right now. it's more the liberal kochs. moving on. hot topic. i was working at my desk, eating a sandwich, and this video caught my eye. ♪ i've been hearing about this for years, but i don't want to spend two and a half hours a day sitting at my table eating. my total meal time per day is probably a half an hour, and that's also while doing other things. maybe that's how i became a productivity machine, and that's great because i live in the modern world. people used to spend all day farming, hunting, and preparing their food and then with what little time was left in the day, eating and going to sleep. but then a little thing called civilization happened, and we didn't have to do that anymore. so enough with your joie devivre, frenchies. i'll have a slice and get back to work. gavin, do you agree with my assessment here? >> no. i think one of the worst parts about your job is you don't get to have dinner with your kids. that's a travesty. >> you think that it is important to have dinner with your family? >> yes. i'm not faulting you for that, by the way. you've got a great job, but that's one of the bummers about it. you can't get to do one of the most important things a dad can do is have dinner with your kids. sit there with the family. it stops kids from being drug addicts. >> i would like to be able to be home at dinner time, but i don't necessarily think there's anything magical about the eating experience. >> it's conversation. >> it's conversation. it grounds the teens. it's not like they're going to do go do anything intelligent afterwards. we go and watch tv after. we go and look at our screens. if there's one thing we should envy about the french is that they seem to have this having two and a half hours with their whole family figured out. i don't get it by the way. why are they so rich? they're all wimps. they're not particularly smart. they only work four days a week. the word bureaucracy comes from bureau. is it nuclear power? where are they getting all their money from? >> nick, you're agreeing with gavin. >> i think it's time for america to go back to hating france. they had a good year. >> i want to be clear i do hate france. >> transfrance is terrible. where are they getting this attitude we are betting at eat something that's what you got? you're better at snacking? great job. which they do by the way. i think the iconic french character is a guy who can't bike anywhere without a giant piece of bread in the front of his bicycle. >> they do love their french bread, don't they? >> take a big pause, france. >> i think, jessica, look. i do. i like to spend two hours eating a meal once every two weeks. i don't want to do it every day. >> well, it's not -- it's across the whole day that it takes that much time. it's not a two and a half hour dinner every day. >> but it's a 90-minute dinner then or a 90-minute lunch. one of the meals is going on for too long. >> yeah, they're talking to their family and eating food that they prepared. cooking is very therapeutic and nice. i wish i could cook. >> everyone in france also wear a diaper during their meals and they just soil themselves during their -- >> i didn't know that. >> it's 100% true. >> if they're not sitting on a toilet seat dining room table. >> every room in a french house has a toilet in it. >> it does? one per room? >> every single room, yeah. >> jim, you're a comic. you're on the road. >> yes, and i eat by myself a lot, and i have no problem with it. i'll peak out at an hour if i'm at dinner. >> with other people? >> yeah, with other people. give me an hour and let's get out of here. >> or special occasions. after a friday night show, you might go out for a late-night meal. i love doing that, but it's the idea that we should be spending hours per day eating. i think that's what makes america great is the -- >> i agree with that. if it's not a family meal, then just cram it in your mouth and move along. >> i would like to say also when i sent in my talking points, i wrote that i bet gavin agrees with how stupid it is that the frenchpend this much time, and this is like globalism at its worst and he'd be for the american way. i'd like to apologize to you. >> you don't have to apologize to me for your thoughts. why did you tell me? that free fell in the woods and didn't make a sound. >> i like you so much better now that i know you want to sit around and have dinner with your kids. >> i don't know you were having bad thoughts. >> i want to take that from france and then build a wall. >> that's how you unit america is with franco phobia. i think that's how you bring everybody together. >> hating france? >> yeah. >> i have nothing against the french -- >> oh, come on, they wear scarves all year. >> i like them. i don't want to have three-hour dinners. coming up, can a poet get you to put down your phone? no? what if i tell you he writes socially minded poems and then turns them into videos? live from america's news headquarters, i'm patricia stark. a diplomatic dance for president-elect donald trump. mr. trump tweeting he spoke friday on the phone with the president of taiwan. the u.s. broke off diplomatic ties with the self-governing island in 1979, choosing instead to solely recognize the chinese government in beijing. mr. trump says the president offered him a congratulations on winning the election and looked forward to a future between the two countries. china's foreign minister says he hopes this will not damage relations between the u.s. and china. in tennessee, 13 people are now confirmed dead in a string of wildfires. more than 1,000 homes and businesses were burned. one man is still desperately trying to find his wife and two young daughters. he hasn't heard from them since the fire started. >> i told her to call 911, and that was the last time i talked to her. we snuck back into gatlinburg and went to the other shelter in gatlinburg and said she wasn't there. i called the other shelters here. they said she isn't there. i'm just hoping for a miracle. oil prices rallying for their best week in five years. a decision by opec to cut crude production pushing prices above $51 a barrel. it's the first cuts by opec since 2008. princess cruises hit with a $40 million fine. the line admitting one of their ships dumped thousands of wastewater into the waters of off of great britain. the dumping lasting for more than ten years. the washington monument staying closed until 2019. the closure allows the national park service to replace and modernize the monument's elevator. a new entrance and security checkpoint will also be built. i'm patricia stark, and now back to your late night landmark, "red eye." for all your headlines, log on to foxnews.com. you're watching the most powerful name in news, fox news channel. ♪ young people are addicted to their phones. it's the only way they can stay in touch with their grandparents. but is looking down at a screen time well spent? an intriguing new video tackles our obsession with snapchatting, tweeting, and swiping right. it was made by tech entrepreneur max stossel, who is known for writing socially minded poems, my favorite kind, and turning them into short videos. the video is called "this panda is dancing," a very misleading title sadly. >> architects of our digital world, stop. be better because we can be, and we can see that these systems have been designed with intrick cassie so that companies can keep our attention indefinitely. i don't want to keep crushing these freaking candies. i don't want these alerts to completely command me. i don't care if that panda bear is dancing. well, maybe with a hula-hoop. okay. this is fantastic. >> i wish i had your expression while you were watching that video. these are very popular, these videos. they get millions of views. you know, put down your phones and live your life. should this guy be lecturing to us about this? >> well, he's right that we are totally addicted to screens, and it's a huge epidemic. i don't know. i'm addicted to them too. i don't know what to do about it. besides having some sort of lead shell around the house that prevents any internet coming in. but is there anything worse than poet poetry? it's failed rappers, failed kmeen comedians, fail stand-ups. failed everythings. if my son would be gay, i would be bummed out for eight seconds. if he got into crime, i would say what's the matter with you. but poetry, i would say, good-bye, son. there's the door. >> i would think to add podcasting is for failed comedians. >> oh. >> you can't say your title. i wish we could. but they'll find it. >> because it's too dirty? >> it's a subject that we won't want to talk about on this -- >> i'll look. >> they're going to search for him and find it anyway. nick, what do you think of this guy's video? >> does it cut off there because i was ready to hate it. but then at the end it looked like it might have been satire that he was making fun of poe manies. >> it gets even more poem-y as it goes along. in the end, he's high-fiving everyone because we have connect to each other in the flesh. >> i think that's right. >> we don't know that by the way. i remember my life was terrible before i had access to the internet all the time. i would get so bored and angry, and i'd -- you know, what do you do when you have no -- you know, nothing to occupy yourself? i used to throw knives at the wall in my apartment. it sounds like i'm doing a funny bit, but i did. me and my roommate started throwing knives at the wall when we were drinking. that was maybe two years before i had a smartphone. >> then it all changed? >> yeah, and we lost the security deposit. if i had an iphone, i would have been playing candy crush. >> back in those days, you didn't go out into the world and make friends? >> no, i stayed home drinking. >> are we too attached to our phones? >> i don't think so. you get a lot of business done. gavin, you got a million things going on. you can do business from your phone. >> we go too far with it. >> no. i used to be carrying about a big computer, a laptop. now i've got everything on my phone. >> yeah, but you're not walking down the street. the amount of times that i almost get hit by a car daily because i'm on my phone is astronomic astronomical. there's a guy who lives in my neighborhood who has seen me do this. he's always like, hey, it's happening again. and i'm like, but -- and i always finish the text. it doesn't even matter because i think the car is going to stop for me. we spend way too much time on our phones. also, i didn't watch the entire video. >> you didn't. >> no, i didn't. because i knew what it was about. they go into these dating apps, which is so interesting. people spend all this time on these dating apps and there's that movement that's trying to reconfigure, and you can't swipe on people. you have to write to them and connect to them. but people go on dates and they are on their phones the whole time. they're not even paying attention. i mean you can't have sex with your phone. you should pay attention to the person. >> not yet. >> nick kind of perked up there. he has some ideas. >> might be a startup. >> i tried one of those v.r. headsets recently. >> what's that? oh, virtual reality. >> we got to go. i'll let you fill her in during the break. >> what do you mean by that? >> halftime with andy levy and a brand-new episode of the podcast is available new. subscribe on itunes and on fox news radio.com. ♪ hey, everybody, welcome back. time to find out what we got wrong and what we missed from tv's andy levy. >> hey, tom, how are you? >> good. >> excellent. bucky balls are legal again. jessica, like you, i had also never heard of these things. >> i can't believe you guys. >> i thought bucky balls was either a reference to buck minister fuller or something from captain american fiction. >> the second part of that i understood. the first, whatever, i don't know what that is either. >> oh, okay. >> no. >> all right. >> but thanks. >> but i will let it go. >> it's like a miscreant from the 30s. he invented the gee desic. there's an almost named after him. jim, you said your lawyer friend told ul the red lozenges cover up drunk driving. i'm juft curious. where did he go to law school? >> trump university. >> philly somewhere. i don't know. i used to meet him down there. we'd go to a strip club afterward. >> gavin, you said so much of government planning and the liberal ethos is based on these tiny chances of something bad happening. and jessica's response to that was but if we can take away that tiny chance. you can say that for literally everything in the world. >> yeah, like let's make mandatory teeth brushing. if you don't brush your teeth you get an electric shock, and we will wipe out gin jivitis and all plaque. if we can just save one life. let's have everyone be free to die. how about that? >> jessica, agree? yes. i mean generally i think that's important. but i still think we should protect our kids. >> we're living in a nation now where people wear bicycle helmets. grown men -- >> not to use your children again. >> don't use my children again. that's it. you're cut off. no more children analogies, okay? >> fine. >> there's 400 and how many million americans. you have to keep finding my children and cramming them into every analogy. >> nick, you seemed skeptical that tom has been following this legal battle for years. >> yeah. >> you have no idea how weird he is. >> i learned something. >> yeah. jim i, you said if a kid swallows three magnets in a row o he's got a problem. maybe they they've goaste good,. >> maybe. if you're going to do -- it's like when you're doing a shot in a bar and you don't like it, you don't say give me two more and throw down three in a row. >> i don't know. i've done that. >> really? >> yeah. >> so if i hand you a shot and says, oh, this takes like vanilla cake, you're going to drink it? >> that sounds good. >> what about if it has magnets in it? >> absolutely. >> democratic donors are tired and upset. jessica, you said lilly von schtupp is going to be the next chair. >> i just hope over keith ellison. >> she can't be worse than you don't have now. i don't mean keith ellison. >> we have some work to do. that's what i think we're supposed to say. dems have got some work to do. >> gavin, you said isn't in proof you can buy influence and the white house is for sale. i do agree you can buy influence and the white house is for sale. i don't know that i agree with it in this case. they could just be mad because they spent all that money because they wanted her to win. >> yeah, but the tone seems to be not i'm sick of betting at the horse it's, i'm sick of this particular horse. i'm not betting on this horse anymore because it ripped me off. you'll notice in the political cartoons, this is a common theme, and it has people lining up to get their money back. you'll see a lot of saudis, you know, sheikhs in the line. and you realize that i think america has finally learned that everything was for sale before. >> yeah. >> i feel bad for all those foreign governments that gave all that money to the clinton foundation. >> yeah. >> well, they're not anymore, boy. what, they went down like -- >> i mean this is going to be the new version of it. >> i prefer business to buying favors. let's do deals. >> let's make a deal. >> jim, you talked about ahow annoying the political ads are when you see them during football. we live in new york where there weren't a ton of afrd ads, imagine living in a swing state. >> they're really into football whether it's college or pro. they're team is down 21-0 and then you have to see a bunch of sad kids crying over something trump said on a bus 11 years ago. they don't care. they're going to vote for trump just because hillary put that on just to bum them out. they're already bummed out that the team is down three touchdowns. >> i agree. >> nick, you said donating anything is for suckers. does that include bodily fluids? >> no. because you're selling them. they pay you for that. >> all right. fair enough. okay. well, it depends. they don't pay you for blood, do they? >> yeah, they pay you for blood. >> let's leave it there. >> i can explain you get paid, i think, $50 up front for blood donations and $20 every time you go back. >> okay. obviously i've never donated blood. >> mm-hmm. well, you're a bad person. >> there's donation, andy, and then there's the selling. >> no one sells -- >> i don't do it, but i know you can. >> really? like for legit? for blood transfusions, not like -- >> no, it's for horror movies, for special effects. >> french versus american eating habits, gavin, i love eating alone. that's like prime reading time. but i think it's important for 230e78 wi people with kids to have family dinners and i agree with you that tom is a horrible dad. >> i don't think he said that andy. >> you said everyone in france wears a diaper while they eat so they can soil themselves. >> you have to give me time to go to wikipedia. >> i'm not saying it's not true. i couldn't find any evidence. >> take my word for it. >> i will. >> that panda is dancing video, which was easily the black mirror episode i've ever seen. nick, after we played a brief clip from the video, and you said, oh, did it cut off air because it seem like it might be satire? thanks for watching the whole three minute video to prep for the show. >> really? >> i was doing satire just now when i said that. >> oh. >> i actually watched it. i was doing a character that like didn't prepare for the show. it was like a homeless person and -- >> he was getting money for his blood. >> all right, andy. thank you. coming up, my great interview with the great robert wagner. stick around. oh, that's lovely... so graceful. the corkscrew spin, flawless... ...his signature move, the flying dutchman. poetry in motion. and there it is, the "baby bird". breathtaking. a sumo wrestler figure skating? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money heather saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. live from america's news headquarters, i'm patricia stark. the flags are back at hampshire college. the massachusetts college came under fire after the school's decision to stop flying all flags across the campus. the decision was made after a burned flag was found on campus on veterans day. dozens of veterans and other activists protested outside of the campus. college leaders say they now regret their decision. in europe, a new police report warning isis may launch more terror attacks. the report suggests car bombs would be used in countries in the european union. the ones taking part in the u.s.-led coalition to fight isis are the ones likely to be targeted. president obama taking to facebook live friday, urging people to help save the affordable care account. known as obamacare, mr. obama says it's improved millions of lives in the past six years. there is a deadline by december 15th to sign up, but republicans and president-elect donald trump threaten its future. >> you have to remember obamacare is really hurting families. obamacare is giving families yet again another double-digit premium increase, really high deductibles and fewer choices. so many people in this country have one choice, which isn't a choice. it's a monopoly. >> the chattanooga school bus driver behind the wheel during a deadly crash is refusing to talk to federal investigators. johnthony walker declining to be interviewed on the advice of his attorney. the ntsb says walker slammed his box into a mailbox and utility pole last week, causing it to roll over and collide with a tree. six students were killed, and 20 others injured. a multimillion dollar upgrade for niagara falls. the water fall now lit up in different colors at night thanks to $4 million in new l.e.d. lights. it's the first lighting upgrade to the falls in more than 20 years. i'm patricia stark. now back to the show that lights up your late nights, "red eye." ♪ when you've been one of hollywood's leading men for over 60 years, you get to know a few people. now in his new book, i loved her in the movies, memories of hollywood's legendary actresses, robert wagner, a legend himself, shares his experiences with some of the great screen personalities of all time. robert wagner joins me now. robert? >> thank you. >> fantastic. you know, of course, i grew up with "heart to heart," right? then i started watching all the classic films. it wasn't till college that i started getting into all these old movies. you worked with so many actresses. i want to kind of go through some of them, all right? >> sure. >> i'll kind of name off the act retss and you can give me some memories of them. bet bette davis. >> very definite. >> she knew what she wanted? >> exactly. >> a lot of these actresses, you said in the book you started off, you know, going to the movies and watching these starlets. >> yes. >> were there any screen legends that you watched and then you were able to work with them? >> well, bette was one of them. >> so you watched her in the movies and then you worked with her. >> one of the big things is to try to forget who she is, you know, because i was sitting in the theater. then when i met her, my jaw dropped. i was just like every fan in the world. >> how long was it before you kind of settled in? i mean you were a -- how did you get in? you were a contract player, right? did somebody discover you at a soda shop or something? >> i was working, taking lessons, and an agent recommended me to 20th century fox. there was a wonderful coach there, and i started working with her. i didn't know anything about acting at all. i just came -- i was so green you can't believe it. i was working as an extra for a while. but the idea for all of us at that time, all of the young actors, was to get under contract to a studio, to be one of the contract players. mgm had a contract list of many young act overs, as did columbia and warner bros. you know, mgm had a big contract list. if you were under contract to a studio, that was a good start. it was a great start for me because i didn't know anything. you know, they took me in and -- >> but you were so good-looking. you were just such a handsome leading man. what else could you do besides be a movie star? when you were an extra, did they say get that guy out of there? >> i wirk any had. i was trying to get up in front all of the time. when you get established as an extra, you're out. you want to stay in the background. then you get called back all the time. if they once establish you and they know who you are, you can't be in the movie anymore. you understand? >> i do. look, joan crawford, let's bring that picture up there. now, she -- look at that face. >> yeah. >> how was she to work with? we hear a lot about joan crawford. >> i never worked with joan crawford. i knew her and had met her, and when i met her, my jaw did drop because she was one of the biggest stars of all times. i never worked with her. i worked with bette. >> and katharine hepburn. >> katharine hepburn i never worked with, but i knew. i met her through spencer tracy. >> you played his son? >> yes, i did. i played his son in "broken lance" and then i plapyed his brother in "the mountain". >> you went from son to brother. >> he was really wonderful to me. he changed my whole career around. >> he did? >> yeah. >> so he was a mentor. he brought you into the big time. >> absolutely. he not only brought me into the big time, tom, but he gave me billing above the title with him. so it took me out of the -- all of the young guys that were working then and all of these guys were great-looking, and we were all playing soldiers and doing all that stuff. but he lifted me out of that pool and made me a special person. >> he kind of made you a star. >> he did. >> let's go through these. barbara stanwick. that afternoon let. i always think of that anklet in double indemnity. >> wasn't she unbelievable in that picture. >> did you work with her? >> i worked with her in a picture called "titanic" and she was absolutely -- >> you were the original. you were the original leo. >> yeah, i was. >> top of the world. elizabeth taylor. i have a picture of you with elizabeth taylorme. i think this is a more -- when is that, in the '70s? >> yeah, that's in the '70s. i produced a picture with her, and we did it together. i was -- she was so wonderful. i knew her when i was a kid. i met her when i was about 14 years old, and then i -- you know, she was so fabulous. she was a wonderful lady. >> were you a child -- did you act when you were 14 or no? >> no, no, no. i just wanted to be in the movies. just wanted to be in the movies but i didn't start when i was a kid. i think i was kind of lucky i didn't because it gave me a life of a young man and not, you know, being sort of separated out. >> it's hard to get over that hump. a lot of child stars weren't able to make the transition, right? >> that's true. my late wife natalie wood was able to do that, and it's a remarkable story. and she went from a child actress at 5 years old to a young leading lady. >> when did you meet natalie? >> i met natalie when she was about 18, 17. >> was it on a picture? >> no. i met her at a cocktail party, and i just thought she was great. we started going together, and then we got married. we got married shortly after that when she was 18 years old. >> what happened? when you started dating her, did they try to put you together? the studios used to try to market these romances, right? >> not that one. they didn't with me with natalie. but they tried to market me with a few other ones and with her two. i'd go out with rita moreno, for instance, who was such a wonderful lady. and, you know, they'd take pictures of us in a restaurant, and it would be a -- you know, a romance and all that. then we'd go home and go to the studio the next day and go to work. >> we're running out of time here. i wanted to get up to "heart to heart." that's my first introduction to you. here's a picture of you with stefanie powers. there's so much in the book. i loved her in the movies. look at my book marks here. i only got to like half of them. thank you, robert wagner. >> thank you so much. >> we'll be right back with more "red eye." 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