Threecommercial segment. That would be a great story. First lets welcome our guest. She is like a box of cake mix, dehydrated, cheap and a party favorite. I am here with joanne nosuchunsky. Oh i thought that was something new. Paint often says thats as interesting as watching tvs andy levy dry. It is tvs andy levy. He is a big fan of bush, the president that is. Rick granell, spokesman to four u. S. Ambassadors. He is a magician. It is penn gillette. Pen and teller is on wednesday on on the cw. You can see the duo on wizard wars on august 16th on scifi and then penn hosts camp stu on thursday on the sportsman channel. Thats excit. I am an outdoor guy. A block. The lede. Thats the first story. Do they bring. Or just annoy . Cops are cracking down on costumes characters in new york time square after spiderman punched a new York Police Department police officer. Spidey turned fighty when the cop confronted him of ripping off other tourists. Four others were arrested including jesse from toy story and another spiderman and lou daabs. Law enforcement says they are like little terrorists preying on the tourists. Time square that has always been a Family Friendly destination is becoming seedy and dangerous. Thats the subject of tonights the influx of aggressive mascots happened on president obamas watch. He refuses to even come to time square to see what is happening firsthand to discuss once again we have brought in a studio audience panel. Thank you all for joining us. Before we begin, how many here can raise their hands . All right, that is all right. Okay, not bad. Okay, great. Thats great. I want to move on to my next question. How many here arent aware that they are raising their hands . Last question. Show of hands. How many people wont be raising their hands at all . Oh there it worked. Lets talk to our panel about this, penn. I spent time with you in time square. Is it weird spiderman is not a mascot. What would you call him . A super hero crimefighter and a movie star and not a mascot. He is not an indian. We replace hookers with heros. Isnt that horrible for the culture of new york . I was for many years a street performer. Yes. I was a street jugular and i worked out there. When you are a successful street jugular it feels like juggler it feels like anarchy people of their free will choose to give you money and you give it back and then spiedy man spiderman goes. You do a lot of street performing, but it is late at night in an alley. Should the cops let them be . Totally. We have enough people in new york city who put their hand out and want free money. If they were in a costumes, 95 degree mug dpee weather in a cos muggy weather in a costumes they need to be rewarded. Taking pictures with kids i am for it. The cop probably enticed this guy. Really . Move along, move along. It is my Street Corner too. You know from the comic books that spiderman has a chip on his shoulder. I am confused. They said there are two spidermans. There is only one. Spider men and not mans. There were a couple of movies. One was wearing the simbiot costumes. Thank you nerd king. I will say from a magic point of you there were many black hermans. He is an africanamerican magician who worked in the south for 130 years because different people would take over and use the same name. So maybe like spiderman it is being taken over by different names. Maybe it is somebody different than peter parker. I am losing this panel. Andy, i want to ask you, grenell says it is great because these guys are not just panel handling, but arent they just adding a costumes to aggressive panhandling . You said we replaced hookers with heros as if hookers are not heros . They are heros. Greg, i look at this story and i see headlines like spiderman punches cop. It is so obvious that j Jonas Jamison is behind this. Spiderman saved a family from farm. That family was trying to give him money. Spiderman was like, no, i dont want your money. The cops noticed and came over and started hassling spidey and he tried to defend himself without hurting them and then somebody takes the video and the daily bugel publishes it. They say they found a little cocaine in spideys pocket. It is obviously not cocaine, but it is what is left of o a of aka sandman. What was your question . I dont even know. I blame the tourists. You know why i blame the tourists . They look at this like an experience in new york. If they come if they come okay. Tourists, if they come here what is with you . All of a sudden i have nothing to say. You. It is like it is like magic. Tourists dont mind being felt up especially if you are male. But they are saying you wont believe they say you wont believe what happened to me in new york. A guy dressed like spiderman grabbed my butt. Well when i was 12 my mother had me pose with a naked cowboy. And that was the first mascot there was in time square and of these other ones in costumes. But i had that story to tell. It was great. And exactly. You were with a naked man in time square and you were 12. They are allowed to be topless in new york city. And they are not even dressing up. They have a nebulous show dpirl thing. The character is topless. It is one of the most popular characters among married men in their 50s. Billing tourists is time bilking tourists is a time honored tradition. It is what we do. You have to get scried by a cabbie or spiderman or ped pedicab or what other story do you have to tell that you were in the big bad city. If you are idiot enough to go to time square you deserve it. You eat in time square which i find hard to believe. I moved out of new york city. I lived in new york city until disney took over time square and then i left. I liked it dirty and funky. Im liking it going back in that direction. I dont like a dirty, funky hot dog. You dont like the dirty water dog . No. I do once in awhile with kraw kraw kraut. Do you like kraut . Thats sour crawt. Are you refer together german people . No. The thing about water dogs, it is free food. When you eat it it goes right out. Why are you pushing the sour kraut. I follow victory cabbage. Are you going to keep asking until you could get that out. It is high time for the New York Times. It is time for another forgetful stroll down i love that music. On sunday the board legalized weed for adults in a piece called repel prohibition citing high incarcerations and low health risks they argued that legalization will put decisions at the state level, but what of the downside . Denver, colorado has seen a rise of homelessness that officials attribute to pot. A director said the new kids say they are here because of the weed. Meanwhile the feds are researching Impaired Driving allowing people to light up and take the wheel in a driving simulator. The data will help officials determine how stoned is too stoned to drive . Being high doesnt only impair driving. It impairs catches. Catching. Ready, one, two, three. Catch. See, you know that dog is being treated well. He hasnt been trained to do anything. He is not being yelled at for a treat. That may be the only animal that can be taught with kindness. Most of the time you cant teach them with kindness. No, you cant. Rick, here is the thing i knew this was going to happen. I am for legalization. I believe you will get a lot of leak what is happening in colorado. All of these 18 to 25yearolds are coming through for the drugs. They are not adding anything. They are only taking and i find that troubling. Not that i would stop it. I just find it troubling. Where do you want them to work . There are no jobs. They are not working. They are there to get high. They would like a job, but they are going to get high. At the end of the day this is like obamas fault, right . It is Obamas America and no jobs. Or are they unemployed because they are high . It is the opposite. It could also be unrelated. But i think it is related in the reverse way. It is not that weed is leading to homelessness. These are people coming from other states. They would be homeless there. They are going to denver because they can get weed. It is not that there are more Homeless People. There are more Homeless People in denver. If you legalize weed in every state they wont have to hear that. It is like the immigration problem. Denver isnt a state. I know. But it is a homeless magnet. Thats what it is. I believe i am the only person who has never tried marijuana who has been on the cover of high times magazine. I am for legalization because it is cheaper. Thats the only reason to make it legal. It is cheaper. And we are not supposed to have proof that everything that is legal is safe and good. A lot of stuff that is stupid is completely legal. The argument that marijuana is stupid and laxidasical is not an argument for making it legal. It is an argument for doing it. Illegal and doing it legal and doing it are not the same things. One of the pontes about the New York Times coming out and saying i am for marijuana is that they are against actual smoking cigarettes. Yet they somehow can say marijuana is going to be safe and legal because it is safe in your body. At the end of the day i think the New York Times is catching up to where the rest of the world has come. I want to point out you said at the end of the day twice. The third one we have to shave your face. Way have to take the we have to take the skin right off your face. Regardless of you have to give kudos to the New York TimesEditorial Board for the brave stance in favor of 2014. You said kudos. What the [bleep] is going on here. At the end of the day and then co dos . Kudos . There is no point for saying victory camp. We have kudos and going viral. Lets reach out to them. Joanne, they are legalizing weed, but they are not even addressing pcp which is your drug of choice. Is this kind of i guess bigoted toward some drugs that they feel are too scary . It is a slippery slope. If you legalize one you will have to legalize all of them. Thats the argument. What then makes one worse than another one . If you are going to legalize it, you have to legalize all of it. It is all optics, imreg. Greg. The only place you can find anyone against legalization is on this network. Basically one person. And it is a guy. He has enough muscle he can stand up to 350 million. Exactly. Everybody is like, no, it is fine. It happened on this show and i told him if he wanted people to stop smoking pot, he should come out in favor of it. You make it cool and then people if you demonize something you make it cool. Are you talking about hammer . Yeah, hammer. He thought they were indians because of their skindins. Another edition of is this racist . I had to look for this. It is my little sign. We had an intern make it. Kurt clawson has mastered the screw up. He was at a House Foreign Affairs subcommittee. The hearing on u. S. Indian relations and apparently forgot the witnesses he was talking to were officials of our very own government. Watch and cringe, watch and cringers. I love your country and i understand the complications of so many languages and so many cultures and so many histories all rolled up in one. So just as your capital is welcome here to produce goodpaying jobs in the u. S. , i like our capital to be welcome there and there to be freedom of capitol so both sides are on the same territory and i ask for commitment in so doing. Can i have that . I think your question is to the Indian Government and we certainly share your sentiment and will advocate that on behalf of the u. S. Of course. Lets see some progress. He apologized on friday saying i made a mistake before being fully briefed and i apologize. I am a quick study, but in this case i shot an air ball. I guess he is a hockey fan. I will go to rick first. Are you the pr guy. Not the best way to start off a career, a professional career. First of all you throw your staff under the bus. I wasnt briefed properly so it wasnt my fault. If you were going to come up with a bunch of reasons to be angry with the Indian Government i dont think the multiple lapping wedges is one of the issues. They are buying oil from iran. I dont understand why he didnt bring that out to these people and say we have sanctions on iran. Why are you buying their oil . Instead he goes to mixed languages . I think there are a lot of other problems in the Indian Government. Is that racist what he did . You just feel bad. You watch that and go oh man. You know there is nobody watching that that a is laughing that hasnt done something that stupid. Not on cspan though. It is bad luck happening to the guy. My heart goes out to him. I have done similar things, joanne, have you . Of course. Oh gosh, so many times. I actually kept count and i am up to 57. 5. He is obviously racist and he should step down. I didnt even know conan obrian is in the congress. They all look alike to me. This is the most humorous and exciting things that has happened in these subcommittee hearings before. He should be getting applause and thanks for it. He gave us a segment. Andy, thoughts . Should he be impeached . Can he be impeached . No, if anything president obama should be impeached. President obama sent people of south asian dissent to a hearing on u. S. Indian relationships and confused this poor congressman. Shame on you, mr. President. As you know i have a new book coming out. Can we put it up . It is called problematic. Have i a chapter called cultural miss identity. What to do when you find out she isnt the maid. I think there are applicable messages for the coming man and he should read that chapter and what to do in these situations. Thank you for that. I have often mistaken you for i dont know. Some other jew. Somebody who has power in the media. And then i realize it is just andy levy. Other people would have had the joke when they started. Can we all agree . He is done. If you are running against him you run this whicher shall and talk a about how this commercial . I dont think so. I think the American People can understand. We are a forgiving group of people, right . But he didnt own it. He said i wasnt briefed. Well maybe one day he will be de briefed. Coming up, my lunch. Why did i order the egg salad . First the court ruled spanking is a reasonable force for discipline. Good news for me and bad news for her for geraldo. Ve spanking a child is great fun. But is it morally right . Thats the subject of tonights red eye debate, 2014, live from the red eye Debate Center. Welcome to tonights red eye debate, live from the red eye Debate Center in hayward, california. I am the host of tonights red eye debate. I would like to thank the pta for supplying us with a beverage and a place to sleep tonight. The new York State Appeals Court ruled on a case where a father spanked his son at a party. The court ruled the slap on the behind was a, quote, reasonable use of force and under the circumstances presented here did not constitute excessive corporal punishment. For more lets go to red eyes chief legal correspondent. What a beautiful thing. So should a slap on the ass get a slap on the wrist in wrist . We turn to our panel. Are you a parent and a libertarian. You dont want people telling you what to do with your kid, but is it an exception can you do that as a parent or can somebody step in and tell you you cant . I am the same as i am on marijuana. I am against it. I think it should be i dont see any reason for using it. But i dont think the government should be that much of a nanny state to watch over it. Obviously if there is damage to the child you have to step in there. I think a little short of that, i dont want the government involved and i also want it done. I see spanking as mutually assured destruction. You dont have to do it, but with the threat there it keeps kids in line. Right . Are we talking ukraine . Well here is my thinking on this. If you read the story, it was done at a party. Thats the most destructive. Spanking your kid at a party . That is embarrassing. Public shame. They will never do it again. I would never do that. You take them by the arm a and you pull them into the arm a and pull them into the bathroom and say something. Spanking is fine, but public humiliation of your child at a party . They will never get over it. We talked about this before we went on. If you ever have a choice of hurting me physically or humiliating me, please go with humiliation. Please. I dont want to get hit. You know that costs more. It does. It involves body fluids. Joe app, where do you stand . Joanne, where do you stand on this . There are people in the word who abuse their kids, but i dont think a parent who spanks their child is abusing them. I think that we often it is definitely that thin line that is hard are you trying to say it slow . I can see why people would be nervous to condone such behavior and such ways to discipline their kids. That said, kids arent disciplined enough in my opinion. Oh no. They are disciplined plenty. The kids are all right. The children are better now than they have ever been before. The whole idea of old people hating children, i do not like it. The kids are all right. But i dont like children in general. I know you dont. You shouldnt have them. Are you saying old people should be spanked . I am all for that. I just find old i find children scary. They scare me. They are terrified. They are terrifying. They could ruin your light. Look what they did on the twilight zone. Especially when they are singing. If children are singing something mad is going to happen. Thats why they are in horror movies and if there are twins it is doubly bad. When you have to look up into their eyes. I saw a height joke coming. Twins in movies, the scariness of the twin is log rythmic so it is scarier when it is double. And they find the creepy part of the voice when they are singing in certain place. The creepy part is them singing. Thats right. Andy, this is a victory against the nanny state. But nannies spank so maybe it is a victory for the nanny state. I did Exhaustive Research today, about five minutes and then i took a nap. From what i read a majority of parents spank their young kids. Is that true . Yes. But a majority of experts say spanking is bad and it is counterproductive and it increases the aggressive behavior in kids over time. Regardless, i am with penn and i dont think it is legal. And i am with rick and you shouldnt do it at a party. What you should do is let the kid know you are doing it later. Thats a worse punishment for that kid to sit there and know it is coming later. Or wait until your dad gets home. Don