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it was a stellar performance." dan springer has it all now live from seattle. dan? >> harris called the battle over defunding police is heating up here in seattle. protesters demand a 50% cut right now, but it doesn't look like that'll happen, at least in the short term. even though the tactics by the protesters are certainly making this personal. over the weekend, about 200 protesters showed up in dozens of cars at the home of the police chief, when they blocked the street and neighbors came out with rifles until the protesters to leave, which they did. protests have taken place at city hall after hours, the mayor's house, and the homes of most city council members the chief was angry. >> when the group of people showed up to my house, it certainly felt very personal about me. it really does seem like a mob mentality and bullying to intimidate a public official. >> activists are not satisfied with the proposal that came out friday that would cut spd immediately by about 100 officers, 70 of them through layoffs. it asks the chief to illuminate the mounted patrol, school officers, public affairs, and the unit that helps social workers clear out almost encampments. it costs $3 million from the police budget, but two socialists on the counsel want $86 million cut now. >> to say now that we need more time is an insult to the community that is demanding defunding the police now after decades of systemic police violence. especially in black and brown communities. >> the big debate over police funding will take place in the fall when next year's budget is set, and one councilmember does not want layoffs done by seniority, because that would mean less diversity on the force. the idea was floated to keep all officers of color and lay off white officers first. the obvious discrimination has been panned by many, but here in seattle that proposal will get a hearing. harris? >> harris: dan springer, thank you very much. >> the most important message right now is everyone take this very seriously, between the rain, flooding potential, the wind, even, again, a potential tornado. that's a lot. >> harris: new york city's mayor, bill de blasio, now saying that the fee 14 threatens to bring the strongest winds through the region since devastating super storm sandy. a hurricane, as it hits sure, continues its track of the east coast after making landfall in north carolina overnight. look at the damage. look at your screen. if you're away from the television, lean in. major flooding, widespread power outages, three people, at least, reportedly killed, and the storm is just starting to hit the epicenters of population now along the east coast. watching it for us, rick leventhal, live in windsor north carolina. it is moving out of there. rick? >> it left an awful scene in its wake, harris. north carolina emergency management confirming at least three tornadoes touched down here in eastern north carolina, including one here in bertie county. you can see the damage it did to multiple structures in this neighborhood. it splintered hundreds of trees, knock some of them down on homes, cars, and our lines. he ripped the wall right off of this home here. the ryan family lives here. there were people home when this happened. i spoke to someone who is in the house, he says he got an amber alert, a notice to take shelter, that a tornado is coming, and then bam, the louse started shaking. you see a tree uprooted there in the front yard. we are less than a mile from the scene of some of the totality's. it's a trailer park down the road where ten structures are completely obliterated by this twister. it came in about 1:30 a.m. at last report, at least two confirmed dead, but there were other missing and at least 20 people were hurt in that instant. the sheriff said it looked like something you would see on television. harris, this is live right here. the front porch, you see the roof is down, blocking the front of a home. there are trees in the front yard. look beyond, all of those trees that were splintered. this entire road, up and down the road, this is where we believe the twister came in, started splintering those trees, and affecting many of the homes but then wiping out an entire neighborhood just on the road. they are just beginning now to go through the damaged areas and continue their search for survivors. >> harris: we are just hopeful, as sometimes is the case, the sirens will go off and people got enough notice at all of this. we did know they would be spawned from this now trouble tl storm fay and then hurricane. maybe this gave people some time, rick. >> some people had enough time to take shelter, and apparently others did not. that mobile home just on the road there, beyond those busted trees, authorities have closed the road down there. they've been clearing trees off the roadways, in fact, but there are power lines down, as well. it's not safe for people to go back in. they are continuing to search for survivors and victims in the rubble, they are trying to secure their valuables, as well. when these homes were demolished, personal belongings were strewn all over the area, including, we are told, generators and weapons and other valuables. authorities have secured that area, they are cleaning that up. again, they continue their search for possible victims and possible survivors. >> harris: rick leventhal, thank you very much. the latest on that storm moving north up the coast here on the east coast. a massive explosion now has rocked lebanon's capital, beirut, reportedly killing dozens of people. trey yingst is live in tel aviv with the latest. trey? >> harris, good afternoon. a massive explosion has rocked the lebanese capital beirut. according to security sources, at least ten people are dead and dozens injured. we are still gathering information on the cause of this blast. local media reports indicating this took place near a fireworks container. the lebanese report here in the city of beirut, the early images we saw before the explosion took place, a large white plume of smoke, and you saw what looked like fireworks exploding underneath it before a massive explosion took place. to give you an example of how widespread the damage is in the situation, the airport is about 6 miles away from the port and beirut and it was moderately damaged. you saw images of neighborhoods this evening completely destroyed by this massive blast. additionally, we've been seeing images online of hospitals completely overwhelmed with victims coming in. many people with wounds from this explosion. we will continue to follow the latest out of the explosion in beirut. harris? >> harris: trey yingst, thank you very much. you have to bring it back to the united states now, and the white house. press secretary kayleigh mcenany has begun taking reported questions in the daily briefing. let's watch. >> reporter: is there more consideration given recent across the country? >> secretary mcenany: i would refer you to what dr. fauci said back in may. he said we can't stay locked down for such a considerable period of time that you might do irreparable damage and have unintended consequences, including consequences for health. several of those consequences, i've outlined for you before. for instance, the fact that, in any given year, you have 120,000 americans who die from drug overdose or suicide. we saw during the lockdown previously that we saw overdoses jumped by 18% in march and 29% in april. 42% in may. overdoses go up, suicide goes up, cancer cases are missed as dr. scott atlas has pointed out. in the u.s. alone there are 150,000 new cancer patients that arise every month, among patients, most have not been seen. that's referring to the lockdown, the american cancer society also noted that during the pandemic they have seen an 80% drop in cancer cases being identified. there are many health consequences. those are three of what are a long list. >> reporter: you don't think there's any way president trump wit -- >> secretary mcenany: i'm certainly not going to engage in hypotheticals, but no, the president is not considering a national lockdown. what he is encouraging his mitigation efforts like wearing a mask, which is patriotic. like social distancing, engaging in these really common sense safe measures to safely reopen and avoid the health consequences of a lockdown. >> reporter: one more things about the negotiations going on today on capitol hill. given the amount of money involved, the amount of americans that would be impacted by the next stimulus bill, why isn't president trump more personally involved or at least more visible in these negotiations? >> secretary mcenany: he is, through his chief of staff and the secretary of the treasury. he is regularly updated. i was just in the oval office with him and the chief of staff was updating him on that very measure. now the democrats are being fundamentally unserious. they've offered no concessions, no plans. if anything, they are moving the opposite way. to demonstrate their unseriousness, the $3 trillion plan, they've said when the president has had a very narrow, specific focus right now, it is extending on employment insurance, making sure americans don't get evicted and when democrats come as i noted on friday, were the martha mcsally bill while the negotiations continue, that was rejected by chuck schumer, which should tell you exactly where democrats stand. it's against hardworking americans who lost their jobs through no fault of their own. >> reporter: the president, about 10 minutes ago, tweeted about vote by mail. what has changed? was he advised by republicans that he was suppressing his own vote by stoking unfounded fears about mail-in voting? will he admit now, the fact that voting across the country by mail is basically secure and tried and true? >> secretary mcenany: the president has always said absentee voting, different than mass mail out voting went than what nevada is seeking to do -- >> it's the same thing. >> secretary mcenany: i would refer you to campaign on this, but there was a victory in florida with regard to ballots, so i believe that's what he was referencing. i'd refer you to the campaign for details on that. but he's been unmistakably clear that, when you have this mass mail out voting that what nevada wants to do, the consequences are real. when the las vegas journal review was reporting the extensive and very good reporting on nevada's first primary election, they note that there were photos of ballots in trash cans, littering mailbox areas, dozens on the bulletin boards on various apartment complexes, and have a postal worker who said that when she went to deliver the ballots, and several cases people had died. there is fraud and delay and that's with the president stands firmly against. >> reporter: fraud in the mail system is extremely rare. the president and you vote by mail, and attentive other administration officials vote by mail. >> secretary mcenany: with regard to the absentee system, that's right. there is ample evidence of fraud. i would point to the best example of this, and very recent, may 12th, new jersey's special election in paterson, new jersey, where one in five mail-in ballots were found to be fraudulent in the election. new jersey officials were charged in that case, and resident ramona javier said this is corruption, fraud. there are eight relatives and immediate neighbors she knows of listed as having voted but who insist they never even received a ballot. there is ample examples of fraud. >> reporter: what can the administration tell us about the deadly explosion in beirut, would lead to it? >> secretary mcenany: that was breaking as i came out. we are tracking it closely, and rest assured we are taking a good look at that. >> reporter: the environmental bill the president signed this morning, it was passed overwhelmingly by both houses of congress. both republicans and democrats signed onto that legislation. can you explain why there were no democrats at the ceremony or even mentioned in the president's remarks? >> secretary mcenany: the president is very proud of what happened today. the single largest investment in america's national parks and public lands in history. the most significant conservation achievement since teddy roosevelt won back the support of more than 850 conservation groups, and provides $900 million a year and permanent funding to the land and water conservation fund. you are asking about recognition of congressional democrats right now, and the only thing we are recognizing about congressional democrats right now is how appalling it is that there are americans going without paychecks because they refuse to partner with mark, martha mcsally in the president >> dominic >> reporter: of the president that he believes -- ty people believe there's disadvantage is in testing. can you walk us through what this what those disadvantages are? as you stated back in june, do you still believe that testing is overrated and makes the u.s. look bad? >> secretary mcenany: with the president refers to with regard to testing is that the media doesn't often acknowledge that, when you do the most testing in the world, lead the world in testing, that you do identify more cases. that is what it refers to, and he has made that point a few times today. we lead the world in testing and the president is very proud of this. the administration is very proud of this. we've done more than 60 million tests, according to hhs, to do 100 million by september. that is extraordinary. when you compare that to the next highest number, india, in the ballpark of about 60 million tests. what we've done in this country's impressive, and the president is very proud of that effort. >> reporter: does he still believe testing in the u.s. is overrated? >> secretary mcenany: the president points out that the media refused to acknowledge that, when you have so much, you identify more cases. that's the point he was making. he's very proud that, since march 12, we have increased daily testing by 32000%. worth mentioning, this is a novel virus. the president led the way in getting emergency use authorizations to identify working tests and then to surge the testing capacity by 32000% since march 12th. >> on tiktok, the president argued the united states should receive money in return for a potential sale. but he hasn't really explained how. under what authority could the treasury get it from any other buyer to get this done as the president demanded? >> secretary mcenany: i'm not going to get ahead of the president on any official action, but he has made that point, and he and secretary pompeo have both said that the u.s. will take action in the coming days on chinese apps, including tiktok, due to the national security risk. we all agree that there needs to be a change, especially with tiktok collecting significant amounts of private data on users. it's unacceptable, but i won't get ahead of the president on what the actions look like. >> reporter: thank you very much. also on tiktok, about beijing, that it might -- sort of slammed the smash and grab of tiktok. what do you say to that in regard to china? secondly, china has not complied with its commitments under the u.s.-china phase one trend trade deal. we are reporting today that the entity purchase -- [inaudible] >> secretary mcenany: we encourage them to fulfill their obligations and their end of the agreement. but the president remains keenly focused on tiktok and protecting the private data of millions of people in this country. prc, the people's republic of china, require countries to cooperate with their security and intelligence services enabling the ccp to access foreign user data. what this means is that these entities ultimately answer to the ccp, which actively undermines u.s. interests and is hostile to american values on the rights of individuals. the president will stand firmly against china on this. >> reporter: thank you, kayleigh. i wanted to ask about the covid release build. the present has suggested, if there is no agreement that is reached, that the president would act unilaterally. as we know, the power of the first resides with congress, so what would the president do unilaterally? explained what he could do unilaterally as it relates to providing relief to american families and american businesses. >> secretary mcenany: ed, i won't get ahead of the president on with that action would look or would be. i'll leave that to him to determine. we have secretary mnuchin and chief of staff mark meadows once again asking nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to come to the table. the ball is in their court here. we have made at least four offers. they have made zero offers. it's unacceptable for hardworking americans. >> on mail-in voting, would you talked about at the top of the briefing, the president suggested yesterday that he has the right to write some sort of an executive order as it relates to mail-in balloting. can you explain what would empower the president in the constitution to take some sort of executive action as it relates to mail-in voting? >> secretary mcenany: again, i will get out of the president on his actions, with those actions would be, and i won't engage in the hypothetical as to what the actions would be on what authorities they would be based upon fort yet to be announced actions. just to once again underscore the president's concern, when you look at the delays and voting in pennsylvania, very good reported by cbs, the reporter got a quote from luzern county manager david petry who identified some of these delays they saw in pennsylvania with mass mail-in voting. he said this, "i have this nightmare, cnn, fox, cbs and everyone else waiting for these things to come in on election night, and we don't have them. it's very hard to speed up this process, and the experience was replicated across the state." as we've seen in pennsylvania, new york, as we've seen across the country, the president is very concerned about delays and outright fraud. >> reporter: one final thing on tiktok, if i may come of the president said yesterday in the briefing that took place right here in the briefing room, the united states should get a very large percentage of that price because we are making it possible. that was referring to microsoft's proposed purchase of tiktok. i have never heard of that before. maybe you can explain that to me, how the government could get a percentage of a price of a private transaction. can you explain -- >> secretary mcenany: i'm not going to get out of the president on this action. yes, francesca? >> secretary mcenany>> reporterw up on that question, get a better understanding of what the president is doing personally to make sure those extra unemployment benefits are reinstated. is he calling senators on capitol hill? does he have plans to meet with nancy pelosi or chuck schumer personally? is the white house concerned that all parties will be blamed if there is no deal, and voters will stay home in november? >> secretary mcenany: no one has worked harder to ensure this patience get to americans. chief of staff mark meadows, secretary treasury steve mnuchin, have been on the hill many, many days now trying to get this deal worked out. but it is democrats, it is nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, that are making an absolute mockery of this process. rather than coming towards us into a clean extension of an employment insurance, they are moving beyond what their initial request was of $3 trillion, and they moved to $3.4 trillion. they wanted $100 billion for schools, and it offered $105 billion, to which they rejected. they are making a mockery of this process. we are still engaging with them, but this president has been clear, he is ready to act on this and it is of paramount importance to him. >> reporter: -- >> secretary mcenany: they are making a mockery of the process. >> reporter: with regard to the executive order, the president has signed a flurry of those recently. he said yesterday he expects to have a health care plan by the end of the month, and also an immigration plan by next month. does the white house feel a sense of pressure to get everything on the president's to-do list before november? >> secretary mcenany: no, the president moves at a very rapid pace, and he wants to get as much of his agenda accomplished this term and going into next term. this president has done a lot already, but he will work on covid and alongside that many others, as he routinely does. this administration is often accomplishing items on two or three different topics in a day, as you can see today with the human trafficking, the event this morning, and then also i have an announcement the president will have a covid briefing at 5:30. but i want to step back and say this, with regard to covid. i think it's really important to put the success of this administration in context, and i got some new information from hhs just before i came out here. this was a novel virus, there were no tests. there were no therapeutics. what did this administration do? as i noted earlier, we surged testing, increased it by 32,000 since march. hhs is projecting 100 million tests completed by september. because of president trump tearing down the red tape. they are more than 230 clinical trials, potential covid drugs and biological products underway, and over 510 are in the planning stages. today nih announced two separate covid treatment trials, active . these are monoclonal antibody treatments. also, by september, we have secured more than half a million courses of treatment of remdesivir. that is one of the several therapeutics that this president has achieved in finding for the american people to treat this novel disease. this novel virus. the vaccine, again, moving into phase three clinical trials at the fastest rate for any novel virus in history. this could only be accomplished by president trump, by a businessman of the white house who is not only on the race to get a vaccine, we have two coding phase three clinical trials, but securing 100 million doses in advance so that we are ready to ship them out. this president has been hard at work on covid along with a number of others forthcoming. >> reporter: israel reopened schools, and they had an issue with that. there was outrage. what do you think of the fact that israel had to close? >> secretary mcenany: i call on you and you didn't answer question and you bought -- >> secretary mcenany>> reportert to answer my question now? >> reporter: the president said he was doing everything he could do to address the virus. is that really true? is nothing more he can do at this point? also, is he willing -- is he willing to accept the number of deaths? >> secretary mcenany: we were hard at work each and every day to defeat the invisible enemy, just to give you an update on some of the actions, right now there are currently 28,220 u.s. government personnel deployed for covid-19 response. on top of that, next week dr. dr. birx visits states across the country and she'll be visiting indiana, ohio, kentucky, tennessee, and virginia. we are hard at work at getting more e.u. as for more treatments and therapeutics, testing, so every day we are rapidly looking at how we can make it the most robust response in the history of this country. i think we've done that when you look at remdesivir and the therapeutics at play, and the case fatality rate is really indicative of what this president has done. we have the lowest case fatality rate, one of the lowest in the world, below the average of the world and below europe. this shows the therapeutics are working, convalescent plasma and dexamethasone. the president is hard at work and he will continue to work on it. >> reporter: everything you can possibly do when they are still waits for getting test results back? when you have declined to impose a national mask mandate, that you say he won't shut down the entire country again? >> secretary mcenany: with regard to testing and the timing, when we identify a problem, because they identify a solution. when there are delays and testing to identify pool testing as a way to increase the speed of testing. we lead the world and testing to increase the speed, we move toward pool testing. that is the flexibility with which this administration adapts to problems were identified on the ground, and we rapidly develop a solution to ameliorate the problem. >> reporter: with the present legacy mitch mcconnell put the extension of the unemployment benefits through the end of the year on the senate floor, to put the democrats in the spot of having to vote for that extension? >> secretary mcenany: i don't want to get us the middle of the negotiations. what is safe to say is they have been one clean proposal to extend unemployment insurance. that was put forward by mike sally. the president -- >> reporter: a slightly separate topic, whether or not the white house has a view on whether members of the media or pools should be allowed to cover the republican national convention's official proceedings in charlotte, which apparently as of right now, because of the limitations, the convention is saying that's not going to be possible. >> secretary mcenany: i have not read into the convention discussion but i will certainly inquire about that and find out what the status is. >> reporter: thank you so much, kayleigh. do you have anything with regard to the massive explosion in beirut that occurred earlier? >> secretary mcenany: again, that was breaking as i came out here. they are monitoring the situation. >> reporter: i wanted to give my question. >> reporter: i have two questions. the first one, israel opened it schools back up, they thought they had the virus under control. that virus then spread and became an outbreak. students got sick. they hadn't closed schools down. how worried are you that what happened in israel might have been here given the fact they are experts in israel who say they made a mistake? >> secretary mcenany: i would refer to our experts and cdc director robert redfield answered about schools on the hill last week. he said he couldn't emphasize that enough, the leading public health agency in the world. it is in the public health interest at these k-12 students get back to schools that are open for face-to-face learning. it is paramount to the health of the child. >> secretary mcenany>> reporterg absentee voting, whatever you call it, he is saying it's the same thing. why is it now something that can be done in florida but not of the states? >> secretary mcenany: he has always made the distinction. mass mail out voting is with nevada where ballots are mailed en masse to the voter rolls. in l.a., for instance, ballots go out and at least 12% of those, we know, are not active voters. that is the distinction from absentee voting, which is where you proactively request an absentee ballot. there's a difference there, and the president repeatedly makes the difference. he is also noting, you can follow up with the campaign on this, but there was a victory in the courts and that's how he was referencing. >> reporter: on saturday trumped treated about payroll tax. is that still on the table? >> secretary mcenany: the present would love it because it would benefit low and middle mie income americans the most. he is keen and laser focus i in the preeminent priorities, especially with the deadline the nancy pelosi missed. >> reporter: thank you, kayleigh. the administration has identified human trafficking is a crisis and has worked to combat it. tiktok has been identified as a platform that enables exploitation of young people, especially in america. with this administration ever consider if tiktok became a u.s. asset, with this admeasure should never consider rules or imposing rules that would help mitigate this risk against young people on the platform tiktok? >> secretary mcenany: i haven't spoken to the president about that specific scenario, but absolutely it is a priority to this administration, we would certainly take a closer look at that. but i haven't talked about that specific fact pattern. i would and by highlighting a troubling trend that we've seen play out across the country. i believe we have a few graphics to illustrate this. it pertains to the defund the police movement. when you look across the count country, defunding the police with increases in violence as a cause for concern. as we saw, violent crime was starting to come down. then, bring in the defund the police movement. in los angeles you had l.a. mayor eric garcetti proposing a cut of $150 million from the l.a.p.d. l.a. mayor garcetti said -- >> harris: the question and answer period with the white house press secretary has now ended. as we pull away, one of the things she is talking now about, the violence, that's where we started with this hour, as well. one of the things that popped during this news conference that we want to get into his mail-in voting. since we started right where they are going, let's pull back now and i will bring in my power panel. guy benson and wendy. we heard a lot about mail-in voting from the white house just now. first, both of my guests, welcome. we will hear more from the president on what he said on the issue. watch. >> you know, you can have a case where this election won't be decided on the evening of november 3rd. this election -- >> what's wrong with that? what's wrong with -- >> it would be decided many months later. you know why? lots of things will happen during that period of time. especially when you have tight margins. a lot of things can happen. >> harris: the power panel now, guy benson, most of the guy benson radio show. wendy sfo, professor at johns hopkins university. great to see you both. guy, spell it out for me. we've heard from kayleigh mcenany and for the president, and surrogates and others of the campaign. the problems with mail-in voti voting. kayleigh, again at the lectern, having to specify the difference between mail-in voting, absentee voting, reminding that she, the president, and others have done mail-in voting. what do you think of it all? >> there are important differences between absentee voting in mail-in voting. let's just set off to the side the president's tweet about possibly delaying the election. flirting with idea, he was condemned rightly so for that. i think he has a fair point, however, on the question about dates that are not accustomed to running primarily were almost exclusively mail-in voting systems, scrambling to do so in the final months ahead of a national election. there are some states that have that system and have had that in place for quite some time, including a red state like utah, but many other states don't have a capacity, and we are seeing some of those problems play out in very deep blue new york right now. there are two undecided primary races from elections that were held a month and a half ago with a judge just ruling yesterday that they need to start counting ballots that weren't postmarked, which i think is a serious problem. i think there are some previews right now of what could go terribly wrong with mail-in voting, and to raise those concerns about the integrity of the vote i think is absolutely fair game if not actually a central point to talk about. >> harris: wendy, when you talk about capacity, because one of our cohorts, greg gutfeld, was on outnumbered last hour with me, and he said it's about capacity. if that's the case, we are not at the beginning of this pandemic. right? we are months into it. i am prayerful that it's toward the end, but we don't know. it has certainly been several months, and we knew it was an election year. why haven't states done a better job to prepare for what just might be people not wanting to go to polling places and wanting to do more absentee or whatever their options might be? >> i think that's a fair question. i would say the same thing. there have been thousands of people who have died. why hasn't the country done a good job when he knew a pandemic was upon us? i think this whole notion of us being reactionary is really going to be a problem here in the united states. we know there's an election coming. we have to prepare for this. i think there are two separate conversations here. that's one conversation where people are looking ahead and saying this is what may happen if we don't do this correctly. then, on the other hand, there is inflammatory language which then starts undermined the results of the election when it does happen. that's where the president is walking a tight rope. it's okay to have a cautionary tale to say this is a lot at stake, we have americans who want to vote, we need to ensure they vote counts and everything is done accurately, but there is another conversation to start to say, whatever the outcome is, it's going to be incorrect. that is what the issue is here. yes, they need to be prepared, and yes, they need to start working on that, but we cannot start inflaming the rhetoric, because that undermines our republic. >> harris: all right, sit tight. thank you both. debate or not debate? what senate democrats say about the idea that joe biden should pull out of the presidential debates. reaction from former white house press secretary sarah sanders. stay close. ♪ usaa is made for what's next we're helping members catch up by spreading any missed usaa insurance payments over the next twelve months so they can keep more cash in your pockets for when it matters most find out more at usaa.com for when it matters most the coronavirus is wrecking stif the senate doesn't act, it will mean painful cuts to essential public services across america. fewer teachers and nurses, longer response times, dirtier streets. but some say our states should just go bankrupt. text fund to 237-263 to tell congress to fund our essential public services. afscme is responsible for the content of this ad. >> harris: several democratic senators have dismissed the idea that joe biden should pull out of the presidential debates after a former clinton spokesman argued biden should skip them because of what he calls president trump's track record of lying. senator elizabeth warren told the hill this. "i know joe biden will show who he is, a man of both empathy and competence. i want the american people to see that." senator feinstein said he should not shy away from the debates but that one or two are sufficient. with me now, former white house press secretary and fox news contributor, sarah sanders. always good to see you on the program. it's hard for me to imagine, considering how many decades now we have depended on the debates to tell us who the candidates are, because even out on the stump not everybody gets to see them. how do we get here? >> the idea that joe biden or anybody around him, the reason they don't want him to be on a debate stage is because they don't want him taking questions. they know that he has been part of the problem for the last 50 years, and he can't defend his record. if this race becomes about joe biden, he knows he loses. people around him know he loses. he is a failed career politician that has moved so far to the left that he is out of touch with america. if he has to go up and take questions, it is going to be, i think, a disastrous moment for him and his campaign. i think a lot of people around them know it. that's the reason they kept him in the basement bunker and the reason they want to limit the debate to one or two and no more than that if they have them at all. >> harris: it's interesting, some critics have told me another reason might come into play for joe biden, that simply it is working for him not to be out there. the jokes will come. "wait, you want your candidate to never speak and you want to take that into november?" but take a look at this polling. a new poll finds that american satisfaction with how things are going with at least 13 percent last month. that's the lowest level in nine years, down seven percentage points from the month before. it also comes after a 50-year high in february of 45%. your reaction? >> let's remember who got us about 45%. it was donald trump and his economy. he's the reason people were happy with the way things are going. let's a member why we are in the position wherein. in large part, something that was it not under the control of anybody, the coronavirus, but the fallout of that, democrats continue wanting to force communities to become police shut down, unless they are rioting and looting, then they won't open it up. it's no wonder people aren't satisfied with the way things are going when we are allowing the far left and liberal mob to control the way the rest of the country is operating. that is unacceptable and that's the reason i think donald trump will do well in november. he is still the change agent in this race. he is still the disruptor, despite the fact that he is the incumbent. he is still the guy that can shake things up and make things happen. he can restore law and order, he has built the economy strong. he can certainly do it again. i think those are two areas that this president can really show contrast with somebody like joe biden who has been part of the problem for far too long on a debate stage. i think that's why it's important for americans to see. >> harris: last quick question, do you think it's important also because of the traditional conventions not being something the american public can even partake in, let alone see the way they were before? your last thought? >> absolutely, i think the fact they want to hide joe biden tells us everything we need to know about that campaign. this has nothing to do with what his plans are for the country, and everything to do with attacking the president. the focus needs to be on who is best fit and ready to lead our country, rebuild our economy. i think when you asked that question there is no doubt it's donald trump, and that's the reason nobody wants joe biden on a stage being compared to this president. >> harris: sarah sanders, good to have you on the program today. thank you for your time. >> thanks, harris. >> harris: as joe biden faces backlash for his delay in naming a running mate, now some critics are calling out alleged sexism over comments from one of joe biden's own high-profile supporters. ♪ i am in so much debt. sixty-two thousand seven hundred and ten dollars and thirty-one cents. sofi allowed me to refinance all of my loans to one low interest rate and an affordable monthly payment. and i just feel like there's an end in sight now and that my debt doesn't define me anymore. ♪ sofi is helping me get my money right. ♪ little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. >> harris: joe biden is taking some heat for delaying his vice presidential pick with many now expecting to make an announcement next week. this all comes as some are claiming there has been sexist commentary about the field of women, especially from some of joe biden's closest allies. former dnc chair ed rendell defended his remarks about susan rice and kamala harris. he said, "this country is so nuts." peter doocy is live from wilmington, delaware. when you get a microphone, what can happen? >> wright, harris. he's a biden insider said recently he thinks kamala harris can rub people the wrong way, but he also said if he had to bet his life on who biden will pick as a running mate, it would be kamala harris. >> i said to some media outlet that she puts off a lot of people. and she does. when i was in politics, i put off a lot of people, because i was strong and smart. she's all those things. she be a great candidate, because she be a great campaigner, if we ever get back to campaigns, and a terrific debate -- >> whoever biden picks will face intense scrutiny as being a heartbeat away from the presidency, and some of these women are facing criticism already, which a "washington post" columnist blames on sexism amongst biden allies who might be selectively leaking to better position their favorites. here's a quote from an editorial. "if the result of the sexist chatter is a candidate who is vulnerable to attack and unvented on the national stage, biden and his team will have fumbled their first presidential level decision. let's hope they are smarter and more competent and he is willing to surround himself with strong personalities." last cycle, the democratic party had a woman at the top of the ticket, hillary clinton, who told the hollywood reporter last month that she thinks sexism and misogyny were the reason that any time she spoke her mind about hot button issues she faced blowback. harris? >> harris: peter doocy, thank you for setting us up with that. a lot of attention to the spike in violent crimes in cities across america. we will get into some more of that, along with the politics. the panel slides back in. ♪ three thousand dollars. three thousand dollars!! that's how much veteran homeowners can save every year by using their va benefits to refinance at newday. record low rates have dropped to new all time lows. with the va streamline refi there's no appraisal, no income verification, and no money out of pocket. one call can save you $3000 a year. -my grandma. -my cousin. my great-great grandmother. she was all of 4'11" but very tenacious. a very independent woman. driven, passionate. embodied grit, perseverance. she marched. -she wrote. -she demanded. she was proud to pass on a legacy of civic mindedness to her descendants. i'm very proud to carry on her story. all: her story -find their stories. -make them count. at ancestry. for people with heart failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. entresto helped people stay alive and out of the hospital. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto. or high blood potassium. find your get-up-and-go. find pants that aren't sweats. find your friends. find your sense of wander. find the world is new, again. at chevy we'd like to take you there. now during the chevy open road sales event, get up to 15% of msrp cash back on select 2020 models. that's over fifty-seven hundred dollars cash back on this equinox. it's time to find new roads, again. did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance ta-da! so you only pay for what you need? 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>> it's not because they are democrats, it's because i don't think children dying should be made political. that's why i'm not calling out the leadership. it doesn't matter because who is really in charge, we have a president that is a republican, i'm not blaming him. you know, donald trump really is problematic and what he's doing is trying to use chicago as a strawman and say, so i don't think that way. >> harris: you are willing to get political when it comes to the republican president. absolutely, that's the only name you pulled. let me help you out here. in new york city where things were kind of falling apart, democratic governor andrew cuomo called for the displacement of the mayor of new york city who we know is a democrat, bill de blasio. >> look, these are democrat-run cities, they have been for decades. i think there are a lot of americans who are in favor of police reforms but most of those people are not going to tolerate a serious uptick in violent crime. "wall street journal" had a story out this week showing that in the 50 biggest cities in america murders are up 24% this year from last year, that's just not acceptable. look at portland, oregon, where a certain part of their police force on a task force on gun violence was defunded, that money was directed elsewhere based on the left wing politics out there and by the way joe biden is talking about redirecting police funds and now we've seen tripled the number of deaths in the month of july alone or rather three times what we've seen over the course of decades and we see this now pattern after pattern, city after city where it's getting worse, the problem is intensifying. minneapolis is talking about abolishing the police and what do we see now, the city there is putting out notices to their residents about how to cooperate with mothers. there are some real problems here. >> harris: i'm just wondering if people in their own political parties are willing to call each other out. eric adams, the hill and others have called him a real rising star in the democrats. calling of the defunded movement that is something that really needs to be looked at when you wipe away the anticrime unit. it's just about calling it what it is. great to have you on the program, i will have you back. thank you. >> thank you. >> dana: we have a heated show coming up, jill biden, former seconsecond lady and wife of the presumptive democratic nominee. hello, everyone paid i'm dana perino and this is "the daily briefing." if there lighthouse moments ago defending president trump after he said in an interview that he's done everything he can to control the coronavirus. as a number of confirmed cases and deaths continue to rise in the united states. all of this also comes as the white house and democratic lawmakers hit a stalemate in negotiations over the next