What did the president know and when did he know it. And we all know where that phrase comes from. You know on days like this within this week of big news around Michael Cohen and other people like Paul Manafort, sometimes we will hear an Immediate Response from the white house. We have not yet heard anything as far as i know from you, john, but this is one of those situations where the president would say, what about the situation . I mean it is not i said situation twice in one sentence, i apologize. But now is it more apparent perhaps of why he would have passed this on to federal prosecutors . I was talking with Brian Kilmeade about this on the radio this morning and even though this was not about the mueller case and a mueller hand of the soft to the Southern District of new york because they felt it fell outside of the purview of the investigation into russia collusion, it would definitely seem to be a loop
now a Law Professor at California Berkeley joins me now. Its great to have you for your expertise. So sticking with the Breaking News, and a person who has already been while we have seen two convictions basically this week and now we see in Immunity Deal with david packer, the ceo of the Parent Company that owns the National Enquirer, what do you make of it all . First if you are President Trump you are getting very worried because i dont think he is under threat of prosecution, because hes under the Justice Department president and the president of the United States cant be indicted for at the crime while he is in office. His main worry i think is whether this will lead to some kind of impeachment charge because under impeachment, under the high crimes of Misdemeanor Standard which is the house and ultimately the senate to decide the meaning of, one could say this is an Impeachable Offense if the president in some way had conspired with people to evade
limits on Campaign Contributions or concealed the nature of Campaign Spending in order to get himself elected. I think a lot of things still have to happen before any kind of that can happen, and this is all about, again, as you mentioned, its not really about the russia mueller 2016 election, this is really about a much more sordid, contain a narrow and less threatening idea of people trying to manipulate possibly the Campaign Contribution limits to pay off people so they wouldnt hurt candidate trump during the election. Harris you say that the president not under threat of election, many i think including yourself have said, you cant do it. Others have said you could try, just to make the point. Bob mueller, talk to me for a
second about how this works legally. Its not his job to put up information about whether or not a president should be impeached. Its his job, as i understand it, to go after crimes. How did we get into that lane and how do we get out of it . Its a great question and its really complicated. Notice that these cases, cohen and packer, these are not occurring in virginia and washington, d. C. , he handed these things off to regular prosecutors. These are the ones in the Southern District of new york which covers manhattan. These are not part of the mueller investigation. His charge, his mandate is to investigate russian meddling with the 2016 elections, and thats not involved here. As far as we know, there is no involvement in russia. So what mueller has to focus on
Interviews with newsmakers and roundtable discussions cover the top news stories of the day. Russia and 2016 elections. If he doesnt find any, all we can do at best, Rod Rosenstein then has a choice to go to congress. But hes a prosecutor and his job is to help congress carry out high crimes and impeachment functions, thats up to congress. His job is to look for Crimes Involving the 2016 election. We havent seen it yet, there are people who are speculating that thats what hes going to do, that if he thought the president committed obstruction maybe he would report that to congress. This is something that ken starr had to think about, but like you said its not part of his mandate. Harris and airbags the question, and i will have to let you go on this. There begs the question on whether or not the president , if he wanted to start with Security Clearances or firing people or
relieving them or moving them or whatever, it would be hard to argue with that in some degree, if, in fact, the investigation has become this preimpeachment goal oriented movement. You say we dont know that yet but its worth keeping an eye on. I will ask my producer One More Time to say what you just said in my ear . Okay. Lets move on now, im joined by bill mcgurn, main street columnist for the Wall Street Journal and member of the Editorial Board right on time. Fox news contributor, as you all are breaking this news and had to have confirmed it with the Wall Street Journal and fox news confirmed as well. David packer, ceo of the National Enquirer has agreed to in Immunity Deal. Thats bad news for President Trump, i agree. The real threat against donald trump is not any criminal indictment but impeachment. And that is growing more and more likely as democrats seem to lead in the polls up to the midterms and the democrats are itching to impeach him, even if as is likely now, they wont have the votes in the senate to convict. Harris we are getting sources are telling fox news directly to john roberts who was just on with me a little while ago that we have to confirm this immunity to speak with federal prosecutors, for steel at the Southern District of new york. What does this mean . You talked about, its bad news for the president but what does this mean if it does not point to anything substantive legal . I think your point is exactly right. I started off with the idea that the whole concept of a Special Counsel is an abomination. I think Special Counsel is corrupt, independent counsel is corrupt, absolutely. Its a bad way to go. Congress is the proper vehicle
for this. So if you want to take down a president , impeachment is the proper vehicle. I also agree Gerald Gerald d famously said, high crimes and misdemeanors or whatever Congress Says it is. But de facto, there is an argument. If they decide, you can be impeached. So that is i think the danger to the president. I point out when the Special Counsel was first set up, it was for its a counterintelligence. And thats not going to help President Trump. We can remind people of where we started and why thats important. And you know, in all of your years as a journalist, and looking at this in terms of politics, have we seen this pass
do you blame this congress . Because they are in the same party as the president. Its hard because you have to get the body to act collectively but if congress representing We The People doesnt exercise its rights, no one is going to give it to them. Harris i have to get in this, a statement from Attorney General sessions back to the president. It says while i am Attorney General, the actions of the Department Of Justice will not be improperly considered by political considerations. Remember where we have been today, and it doubling down on that language is if i had known that you were going to recuse, and even the president saying, you should have told me before you recuse yourself from the Russian Investigation. This is now breaking, and the statement is longer than that but i give you a highlight. President trump has some legitimate complaints. I believe just Jeff Sessions has been weak because he recuse
himself. But just because the president has legitimate beefs doesnt mean that he has expressed them in the most helpful ways to himself. And i think now hes paying the price for some of his associate associates. He picked Michael Cohen and he picked Paul Manafort. Harris and in his recent statements he said he questioned the idea of picking Christopher Wray ahead of the fbi. This is the Attorney General answering back to the president in a statement online. I took control of the Department Of Justice the day i was sworn in, which is why weve had unprecedented success at Effectuating The President s agenda, one that protects the safety and security and rights of the American People, reduces Violent Crime enforces our Immigration Laws, promotes Economic Growth and advances religious liberty. He goes on to say what i said, i will say it again, while i am Attorney General of the actions will not be improperly
influenced by political considerations. Is this getting deeper . Are we saying a situation where the president could wake up and say, ive had enough of Jeff Sessions, you are out, or you are put somewhere else. Where are we in all of this and with the president in any way be justified by doing that . The president can choose whatever Attorney General he wants but the question is whether he could get someone confirmed, maybe next year. My suspicion is if there are 54 republicans in the senate next year that Jeff Sessions wont be long and his job, but i think its very difficult for the president to do that now because what would happen . Rod rosenstein would take over. Harris let me take this part. Only things that man like this in my experience whatever we in the end. No nation has a more talented or dedicated group than the United States. Im proud to serve with them and
proud of the work we have done in successfully advancing the rule of law. I think Jeff Sessions had to say that, and the president has been berating him in tweet after tweet, again, and i think he has a legitimate beefs that mr. Sessions recuse himself and weakened himself. But i dont know of any Management Book that says you get the best of your people by berating them in public. Jeff sessions is sticking up for the integrity of his department. Bill mcgurn, youve been in politics covering it for a long time, a short yes or no session, i can answer if you can. Is Jeff Sessions going to be fired . I think eventually that not right now, i dont think the president would benefit. The Investigation Wouldnt Go Away and a lot of other people might take over that would be less friendly to the president s interest. Harris wall Wall Street Journal editorial in the paper making Breaking News, and we were glad that you were able to stop by. A big day for the Supreme Court
nominee as he meets with several democrats, but some of them are calling for his Confirmation Hearing to be delayed. Why . Do they have a valid point or are they trying to obstruct . Republican senator john through joins me next, stay close
you might take something for your heart. Or joints. But do you take something for your brain. With an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in Clinical Trials to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Harris fox news alert, just minutes from now, chris will meet with Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in a growing showdown over his Confirmation Hearing and a growing number of democrats meeting with him. Some democrats are calling for a delay in the hearing after Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort convictions, and at least three democrats are refusing to meet with the Kavanaugh Sill at all. But the white house is going after their calls to postpone the hearings this way. This is a desperate and pathetic attempt by democrats to obstruct a very highly qualified nominee. The hearing date has been set for September 4th and judge kavanaugh will be there. Harris south dakota senator space 27 is with me now and you have met with judge kavanaugh. What do you make today of more democrats meeting, but as the senator dick durbin has said it, its really to press him on the issue of delay. What do you think . Senator thune good afternoon, aris. It is a delaying tactic on behalf of the democrats, theyve been trying to delay this from the beginning so much so that a number came out to oppose him before he was even nominated. There are a number of democrats who are now saying they wont take a meeting with him. It seems to me if you had concerns or questions you wanted to address, the response will way to deal with that would to be at least meet with the nominee. But at this point i think all these things the democrats are doing our sort of Grasping At Straws and trying to find any way they can to try to sink this nomination. But its not going to work, the hearings will continue and they start on September 4th. He is an eminently qualified judge and someone who understands the role of a judge ought to be to apply the law in the constitution as written, not to try to cheat policy outcomes from the court, i think he will do pretty well. Harris and some other
democrats also, i know senator Dianne Feinstein wanted to push for more documents and all of it feels like a big deep breath delay. But also with the minority whip, dick durbin, he wanted to talk about the Mueller Probe. Did you talk with kavanaugh about the Mueller Probe . Senator thune thats not something he needs to worry about or deal with. The issues he will be dealing with in court are some of the things i asked him about, his opinions, and hes written over 300 so we have plenty to evaluate. The democrats are also arguing that there are not enough documents out there but they are processing 430,000 pages and documents in his time in the Executive Branch alone. So thats not going to be an issue. This nominee gets an opportunity to make his case in these hearings and as the American People begin to tune in they will conclude that this is someone who, as i said, is not only well qualified and well respected in the legal community
but in the mainstream in view of his terms in temperament and his view of what the role of a judge is. And thats the thing that most americans will care about, certainly what we appear to care about and i wish the democrats would give him a fair break. It doesnt appear they are willing to do that because as i said, it appears they will be deposed to any nominee the president puts forward. Harris you talk about three or 400 documents, and i wonder how that all works. I republicans also reading those documents . Senator Susan Collins has put herself out there and she wont make a decision about kavanaugh until September 4th, so we are right up against that hearing, that day. What do you make of that . Are you concerned that roe vs. Wade becomes an issue with regard to the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh . Senator thune i think it will be an issue that the democrats will try to raise and most of their attacks are animated by their far left. The attacks that they are going
to throw and judge kavanaugh wont have anything to do with his records or opinions, it will have everything to do with his outcomes and ideology. Harris Susan Collins, that is her issue, too, she says. So what do you say to her . Senator thune susan has met with a judge and she said the meeting went well. My guess is, in the end, im hoping that we will have all republicans and i think some democrats will end up supporting this judge. But everyone has a process, their own process and their own way of thinking through this issue, and they will have an opportunity to do that. Whats discouraging though is a lot of democrats arent even giving him a chance. Harris i saw you jump backwards off of a boat in south dakota, so happy summer to you, it looks like a good one. Senator thune thank you,
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president that he would recuse himself from the Russian Investigation . It depends on whether or not he knew the facts at the time. I think if Senator Sessions at that time was aware that it might very well be a conflict of interest, if he had the opportunity, he may very well have said, look. You have to understand i have to recuse myself in some situations. On the other hand i think Senator Sessions would have assumed that everyone would expect him to accuse himself if he is part of an ongoing investigation. And he has been an attorney for years. Hes been a prosecutor. Hes been a United States senator and he understands the expectations of an elected official and unappointed official. I think he is very loyal to this president and he wants to see this president succeed. Can you imagine the backlash that would have occurred if Jeff Sessions would not have recused himself in this particular case . Harris i cant imagine that. But i want to step in because
the American People elected a president who is outside of the swamp. Hes outside of all of those things that somebody might just assume that someone would know based on being alive. This wasnt just a senator, as you pointed out. Jeff sessions is an accomplished attorney, he gets it. Was it not always his duty to counsel the president as he was moving between jobs . Just to say, as you have pointed out, there might be a conflict at some point and i would have to step in with a recusal. Why not just slap the president without her . Senator rounds thats a fair question but i dont know whether or not that was ever brought up. I dont know if that was something on Jeff Sessions mind. I can tell you right now that there are times in which an individual recuse himself, there are times when any elected official will recuse themselves. All i can tell you is this. Jeff sessions is the right man for the job. He believes in this president , Jeff Sessions is a man of very
High Standards. The president made the right choice when he chose Jeff Sessions for this job. Harris when you say he has a right man for the job, i understand it to be like that list that he gave of accomplishments that he said he effectuated the president s agenda. And thats overseeing Whats Going On, should there be somebody else and that position or alongside him that actually can weigh in . The nice part of the process is that when he recuse himself, another individual who is a professional will step in and take responsibility. That has occurred in that process will continue on regardless of who the Attorney General is. It needs to for the good of the country and the good of the president. We want this to come to a conclusion, we want it to not start over again. We want this to be complete. And we think the American People
do, too. I think this is better for the president and most certainly the best thing for the country, to see the institutions of the government actually work the way that they are supposed to. Once again, i think thats exactly what Attorney General sessions had in mind as well. Harris you know there are accusations of bias inside the fbi and via Text Messages that have gone back and forth between two agents i dont have to go too far down the road. Then you have to consider bruce ohr, married to a woman who helped put together the antitrump dossier. Are you confident that Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions could step in there with one of his employees at the doj and make sure that there is no bias against the president . Does the recusal frustrate his ability to do that . I think its exactly those types of things which occur, which was occurring not only
under this administration but under a Previous Administration and other a previous Attorney General. Thats one of the things that i think Jeff Sessions will tell you, you have to have standards and they have to be enforced. Jeff understands that and he is the right guy for the job. I dont agree with everything that he has four opinions either but he is a principled individual and he will do what he believes is right and thats what the president needs as an Attorney General right now. He believes in this president as well and thats important. Jeff was one of his very first supporters and i think that jeff is still one of those supporters are trying to do what he believes is absolutely right. Harris Senator Rounds, the great state of south dakota, great to see you today. We are awaiting a fema update on Hurricane Lane as it is now closing in on hawaii. Its a monster storm. Category four and it could be the first major hurricane to make landfall on the islands in decades. Officials are urging people who live there to stockpile two
weeks worth of food and water. Lets go to Senior Correspondent adam housley who is obviously there. We are getting some rain bands here coming through this morning and this hurricane could be the first one since 1992. The good news is, it seems to be weakening. And having said that, even though its weakening, obviously the wind shear, as we hear more from forecasters throughout the day is helping knock it down. We are still getting significant rain here and 25 miles to my right, to my east basically, is the big island which is getting pounded. They have more than 12 inches in some cases and on the west side they have less than a quarter inch. So that tells you how unpredictable this storm is as it continues to sit there. Those waves, that rain coming down on the big island has pumped to people throughout the Hawaiian Islands to prepare. Thats the other were being used here is preparation. People here did take the warnings, the stories have been packed the past couple days and we were there yesterday morning when we got our supplies. There were enough supplies for people to have and they are telling people to prepare for as long as possibly 14 days, depending on if the storm remains big and hits us. One of the people here is the mayor of maui telling people to get prepared and dont take anything for granted for granted. Here on maui theres been a run on all the Grocery Stores and we are hoping to restock. We havent really faced a hurricane of this magnitude in history as far as i can remember. It will be a new experience for everybody if it maintains its current strength. Back here live on maui, the rain has stopped for a moment and the seas are as common as we have seen them in 24 hours but we expect that to change throughout the day as those bands break up and the Storm Pouncing Island in the next
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the suspect to work for them for years and stayed in the United States legally under their employee. How did it go . I know he used some fake documents. If they say that he is not who they thought he was completely likely used fake documents and i. D. First they said they used the federal everify system, but then they backtracked and said there was a Social Security verification but there was some type of error there. Now the owners say they need new laws. In Immigration Law that needs to identify the people that are here, identify where they live and what the work is, and these people have to live within the laws of the land. That is the kind of Immigration System we need, not only for agriculture but for many other industries within the state. Cristhian rivera is a schedule to appear in court again later next week. Harris matt finn,
reporting live from iowa. Attorney general Jeff Sessions of the white house for a Prison Reform meeting right now. Thats got to be interesting. The president is also in that meeting. All of that after sessions hits back at the president s criticism stay close. Your insurance rates skyrocket after a scratch so small
hi, everyone, im dana perino. I push to delay the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh. Plus we are live in hawaii which could get record rainfall from a hurricane already slamming the island. And as it too late to stop adversaries like russia and iran from idling in the election . That after two major incidents this week. Harris Breaking News happening right now inside the white house, Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions right now they are for Prison Reform meeting, and this hour you have seen an interesting response from that man to the president. The president also in that meeting after sessions hits back a few minutes ago with the president s criticism that he never took control of the doj. The Attorney General released a statement prior to this meeting saying, and he took control of the department the day he was sworn in. Lets bring in the power panel. Alex conant, former Communications Director for senator marco rubio, and a partner at firehouse strategies, juan williams, fox news senior political analyst and cohost of the five. These men are in a room right now alex, together. And this is complicated because you have people like senator Lindsey Graham same, he expects session to be out of his job at any moment. To be a Fly On The Wall at the side of the white house right now as to be amazing to see the Body Language between the president and his Attorney General after this flurry of rhetoric going back and forth. I can tell you this, i worked in the senate for five years and Senate Republicans respect and like the Attorney General. If the president were to fire him, the response from the senate would be explosive. The Senate Republicans would be really, really angry about that and they would not be in a hurry to confirm the new Attorney General. I think Rod Rosenstein would be the acting Attorney General for
the foreseeable future. Harris and senator mike rounds was just on with me from south dakota, and it was interesting because he seemed to say to the president , dont do anything like that. You made the right decision with Jeff Sessions. The big thing is recusal in the russia investigation. To me, listening to alex and its listening to Senator Rounds speak with you, harass, it strikes me that republicans dont want the president to do this. So even people on his side, who think that he is their leader, there president , or trying to caution him and slow him down at this moment. Harris so when the president says even my enemies said you should have told me, Jeff Sessions, that you are recusing herself from the Russian Investigation, how does that play out . Issuing tweets and statements back and forth, and outside within the beltway, some senators say this could go down and the president could get rid of him. We have reached the point of
no return on this investigation, it will come to a conclusion. The president will shut it down. I think we are at the point now where the president should stop tweeting, should stop attacking the investigators, and it do everything he can to bring it in for a conclusion as soon as possible, recognizing that the more he tries to inhibit the investigation, if anything thats what hes being investigated for. Harris but look at the timing, the president knew that they were going to be together in the white house. He has been beating up on sessions. He tweeted last week that he was sorry. Harris right before he was in the place for the president is, that is bold. Is it bold to say, i dare you, im in this job, is that what is being communicated here . I think he wants to have sessions in his presence, but the question is, Will He Fire Sessions today . I dont think thats true but
the president has surprised me several times. But it looks and smells like historically, if you get rid of sessions, you dont want rosenstein in the job. Harris why not . Because hes the one managing the investigation right now, it will cause a huge political storm in congress and put the president in even worse position. Harris Lindsey Graham just talked on camera, i will tell you what he said. Take a look