Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Outnumbered Overtime With Harris Fa

You. I think its safe to say that other than family Melania Ivanka and jared closest to the president over the last three years. One of my gave his stories of hope hicks during the campaign when the president s suit was rink cold, she would take the steamer and steam his suit while he was wearing it loser her is definitely going to be like losing his right arm to some degree. We are told it was never not one thing that prompted this dismissal. She had been talking about this for a number of months. She just felt that it was time to move on and do something else. Were told that it had nothing to too with her testimony. The House Intelligence Committee on tuesday in which she said that she on occasion told white lies on the part of the president. It was just a sense that maybe she had had enough of washington. Had enough of what was coming in over her transom that she had to react to every day in terms of the onslot regarding russia and other items time to go pursue other opportunities as well. You played a little bit of Kellyanne Conways thoughts. Kellyanne conway talking about how hope hicks quietly made contributions to the administration. Listen here. She shepherded a lot of resources and surrogates and indeed the president s voice himself, when it came to passing major initiatives like tax reform, working on infrastructure now. Holding for some of these round tables yesterday on School Safety. Last week, listening session with those affected by School Shootings was hopes original idea. Now, hope hicks has been described as the closest thing to a Family Member that the president could. The white house itself not responding to reports that Jared Kushners former company Kushner Company secured hundreds of millions of dollars in real estate loans after Jared Kushner met with the head of Apollo Management group and as wells the head of citigroup here at the white house. Instead, the white house is leaving it to outside entities to issue statements denying any kind of whiff of impriority here. Spokesman for kushners outside attorney said Jared Kushner has met with hundreds of people during the campaign. Transition and in the administration to hear ideas about the improving economy. He has had no role Kushner Company since has taken no loans or projects with or for the companies after that. He has followed the ethics advice he has received for all his work, which include the separation from his businesses and recusals when appropriate. Spokeswoman for the Kushner Company is telling fox news in the 33 years Kushner Companies has been in business, we have done tens of billions of dollars of transactions and loans with all the top lenders, continue to have a working relationship with them to. Suggest that jared was taking on his role at the white house has suddenly affected our longstanding relationships or we do business differently than we have in the past is made up and without substantiate situation. Stories like this attempt to make extenuating situations that dont exist to disparage Financial Institutions and companies involved. Nothing from the white house which i find very curious, harris. Jared kushner works for the white house. If somebody is making allegations about somebody who works in the white house, it should be the white house that responds to this. In addition to outside entities. Harris . Harris all right, john roberts. Thank you very much. For more reaction to the imminent departure of the woman politico is calling trumps translator. Lets bring in josh holmes, former chief of staff to Senate Majority leader mitch mcconnell. Josh, always good to see you. I want to start with hope hicks and john roberts talked about. When you talk about someone inside trumps inner circle as hope hicks. What impact does this have. It obviously has a big impact. She had the salute trust of the put of the united states. And i think by all accounts was one of the few people within the administration who had the ability to provide complete candor to the president. And influence his decisions one way or another. So there is a loss on that. But, you know, i have come long enough in government to find out that there is no totally irreplaceable staff, right in the irreplaceable member here is always the president or the principle. So they will get through it. But there is no question its a big loss. Harris you know i was looking at the list last hour on outnumbered. We were ticking down hot people who have been in that seat. Anthony scaramucci, showers, so on and so forth. First of all she was the first woman in that job with all of those men behind her. And so it kind of fulfilled the circle to around the president. He has a lot of strong women around him. He does have a lot of strong. He continues to have. You just heard from Kellyanne Conway who ran his campaign obviously continues to play a Critical Role over there. You know, the one thing i think we are discounting here with the case of hope hicks is how difficult her job was made by the constant attention that was provided to her. If he would being honest with ourselves. If she was a 50yearold fat guy the media wouldnt follow her around at dinner. Harris oh my gosh. They probably wouldnt ask questions about her personal life. What we have seen here with her case in particular, is a double standard that was set in undue level of attention deeply unfair. That i think, you know, look, if somebody wanted to serve all 8 years, probably wouldnt be possible given the amount of attention she was given on a daytoday basis. Harris we havent seen that with anybody. No. Thats kind of the point nobody is asking harris all of the gender stuff that you have mentioned has anything to do with whether or not she would have stayed in the job longer. We havent seen that in anybody all 8 years. I want to talk about the job specifically though. This is a president who does like to walk outside the boundaries of a communications maybe system or plan in place. She had and politico calls her a trump translator. But she had the ability to fav gait that. Very successfully and very quietly. We didnt see her come up in front of cameras and have to defend or do any of that. To her great credit. She was very comfortable playing the behind the scenes role. Never sought the spotlight herself and wanted to get the job done. If you hear for most journalists in your account how she processed their inquiries on a daytoday basis. She was extremely professional and served the president well and got her job done. Can you contrast that with way people from previous administrations and this administration have handled the spotlight. I have think she has handled it as well as can you. Harris i want to ask a pointed question. You were chief of staff for senator mitch mcconnell. He is kind of tough. You had a tough boss. But, when you hear somebody say that they told white lies or, you know, felt like they needed to for somebody that is in leadership, what does that make you think of . Well, you have got to remember this is a one sided conversation. Benefit of defending yourself, right . So what the context of that is entirely up to whoever provided it to the media. And so you know, the question, my guess is probably pertained to whether or not she mislead people with respect to the investigation on russia and the answer was absolutely not. Now, are there issues that you come into contact with during the course of doing your job that in retrospect you find out you didnt have all the facts at the time . Sure. And that could very well be the context here. Harris i wants to end up as i said right where john roberts reporting did and thats on Jared Kushners Company Reportedly getting millions of dollars after someone met at the white house for meetings. That Umbrella Company giving that money reportedly. Your thoughts . Well, the missing connection in the story itself, we have a series of facts. Youve got facts that the Kushner Companies received loans and have you got a series of facts that Jared Kushner had meetings in the white house with people who provided them. Now, a simple reality is that varied kushner has probably had meetings with just about every single significant financial and otherwise person in the white house during the course of just doing his job. So, what you have to prove here, in order to prove something nefarious is that he was conducting business in those meetings. There is absolutely no facts to support that in that New York Times piece. Where there is facts are that he separated himself from his business at the beginning of his service in the white house. And i think, look, as long as we dont have any facts that dispute that, have you got to take him at his word. Harris josh holmes, thank you very much. I appreciate your candor and perspective on this today. Good to see you. Harris lets get more from this from Chris Wallace the anchor of Fox News Sunday. Chris, i want to start with the leaks that came out of a session that was supposed to be private secret with hope hicks. You heard josh holmes talking about it. Why are we seeing this . Well, you know, thats almost a rhetorical question because people are trying to score political points. This was clearly an effort byself the democrats in their closed session of the House Intelligence Committee, wanted to embarrass hope hicks and indirectly thereby to embarrass the president. And according to pete king, was a member of the House Intelligence Committee, he said that this has been completely misportrayed. Yet the democrats are asking questions about have you ever mislead anybody, and she is well i have told white lies, i suppose. But i have never said anything in terms of the russia investigation that wasnt entirely the truth. And its subsequently been explained that, for instance, if the president didnt want to meet with somebody instead of saying well, the president doesnt wants to meet with you, she would say he is too busy. Almost like when your wife asks does this dress make me look fat you never answer. Lorain, i promise you the dress does not make you look fat. Harris this show just took a cart wheel. Exactly. Harris sorry lorain. And, look, honestly this is a president who hasnt always been bothered by the facts. I mean, remember, day one of his administration when he sent somebody out to say that it was the biggest crowd that had ever been there for an inauguration. I dont think the white lie thing im not saying that the president wasnt annoyed that she said it but i dont think that was a big factor in this. Harris getting that and i appreciate you bringing that forth from pete king, representative peter king. Because getting the context and the tone is really important here. And so the question becomes why would democrats, if they are trying to make a political play with this. Ever think that anybody would ever tell them the truth again . Because left out of context its just that lets move on. Lets talk a little bit if we can about where jiewrd couricner this has been an interesting week. You saw downgraded in the security clearance and now a deeper dive into finances for his company. I think the real key here and, you are missing one other point, which was the leak in the Washington Post this week, in addition to the two stories you mentioned. There was a leak in the the Washington Post that intelligence sources said that they had intercepted communications in which other countries, china and mexico and the United Arab Emirates had felt that they could manipulate Jared Kushner because of his financial ties and because they felt that he was unsophisticated in a lot of these Foreign Policy issues. Whats clear to me in all of this are that the long knives are out for Jared Kushner. Whether and in fact some people have suggested its in the intelligence community. Some people have suggested that there is no love loss between Jared Kushner and the white house chief of staff john kelly. Im not sure where these leaks are coming from. But they are a series of leaks that are mental to diminish Jared Kushner and to weaken his position in the white house. And i think to some degree to try to force him to decide, you know, its almost easier to be on the outside than it is to be a member of this white house staff. Harris Chris Wallace are we at a point now where we need to figure out where the leaks are coming from in remember in the early days of the administration they were potentially coming out of the white house and arent the white house. This is seriously going to be a situation where things just leak and they are this onesided and potentially damaging, dont we need to know the whole story . And so lets just find the leakers. Well, i would certainly like to find the leakers. It would be a heck of a news story. Harris yeah. It would be a public service. I mean, having said that anybody who has been around washington for a long time, harris, knows its almost impossible to find the leakers. Leakers are smart. They you have people in the media who want the information. And dont wants to give up their sources. And, lord knows, we have done that, too. You have gotten leaks. I have gotten leaks. I dont give up my sources because you want people to continue to talk to you. And the result is very, very seldom do we ever find out who these leaks are coming from. Its clear that there is a series of leaks and does it make it harder for people to just do their business in this town . Absolutely. You know, i would say this for the sake of having a conversation that anybody can kind of pier into when it comes to journalism vs. Politics when we find out information, we balance that along with do no harm. There are a lot of things journalistically that were thinking of. When have you politicians leaking out a closed door meeting, hearing, investigation, thats potentially really bad for what we have in this country, national security, you know, all sorts of issues. Its different. But i hear what you are saying. I understand Fox News Sunday this weekend has a very special guest. We do. Were going to be covering all the serious stuff, obviously. Well, i will get right to it. There she is herself. Dolly parton at the library of congress. And if you look at the delighted look on my face, she is i have never met her before. She is dolly parton. And what you see is what you get. The little girl from the eastern tennessee. The Smoking Mountains who has a fabulous program. She is giving away for free 100 million books to young people between the ages of their birth and 5 years old all around the country and the world. We talked to her on sunday. And she even sings for us. I dont know. Do you know dolly parton . I have never met her before. Harris i have interviewed her a couple times. I met her also in branson, missouri. Yeah, she is a very special lady. She has a big heart and a great style about her, too. Im sure it was loads of fun. We will watch for it as everybody else will at Fox News Sunday a little special treat. Chris wallace, thank you very much. Chris thanks, hairs. Harris special Counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly looking into whether then candidate donald trump and his associates knew ahead of time hacked dnc emails which rocked Hillary Clintons 2016 campaign. Is this a sign the investigation is heating up or support white house claims of a witchhunt . And new fallout after President Trump said he wanted bipartisan gun reforms that he calls comprehensive. Will it come to fruition . Could the nras influence shut it down . Stay close. Im sitting here and im saying, you know, there is a lot of commonality here. 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The white house is expected to announce a package of policy proposals today aimed at improving School Safety and keeping guns out of the wrong hands. They say this is in the wake of a big meeting with lawmakers at the white house yesterday. President trump signaled openness to bipartisan proposals on gun reform. And a short time ago schumer called for gun control measures still the capitol is buzzing after the president stunned them all by signaling is he open to broader reform. Watch. Having a comprehensive bill. Some people dont like the word comprehensive when they talk. I like the word comprehensive. You know, they say oh, thats a bad word. Because it represents things. I mean, to me i like the word comprehensive. I would rather have a comprehensive bill. Mr. President , the most important thing you