Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Outnumbered Overtime With Harris Fa

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW Outnumbered Overtime With Harris Faulkner 20180223

He is expected to plead guilty to two count, wanted conspiracy against the United States. It had two elements oratorical foundational pieces to it. One has to do with his lobbying work along with Paul Manafort, his longtime business partner, who was also charged by the special counsel right now. It was there lobbying work with a prorussia party in ukraine. It also has to do with the Money Laundering of what they say is 18 million, an effort to hide the proceeds from that lobbying. This is the account conspiracy, defraud the United States government or against the United States government. The second count as a lesser charge, which is a violation of 18 u. S. This says he lied about a conversation with Paul Manafort, another lobbyist, and a member of congress about the conversations about the ukraine. That conversation took place in 2013. Thats an automatic five years. What we expect at the hearing today is he will receive much less. In exchange, he will cooperate with the special counsel. To your original question based on whats in the superseding indictment, it talks about history, it talks about 2013, 2014, and also Bank Transactions that go back to 2010. And those who support the president will say that they do not see any evidence of collusion between members of the Term Campaign and russian officials. Harris one im looking at our tax returns, falsehoods, those types of things. You say dating that between 2010 at 2014 no one running a campaign for president at that time. Thats what people interject with this. What does this have to do with Robert Muellers investigation into whether or not the Trump Campaign had colluded with russia . What does it . What we dont know and wont learn at the hearing this afternoon is to what extent rick gates cooperation with the special counsel moves beyond this period of time, more specifically at that period during the campaign. You really cant minimize the fact that hes going to plead guilty to charges, even if they are, if you will, historical and not related to the campaign. The one that really has my attention is this 18 usc 1,001. Its what we talked about before, the Martha Stewart statute. Former fbi agents have said to me that they rarely see 1,001 used for prosecution. Typically its used to create leverage as a pressure because at the end of the day, it may be a lie not a crime. In this case, its talking about a meeting from 2013, at which did not have a criminal nature to it if youre following the explanation. Harris i want to talk a little bit about what we are expecting at that hearing, and also Paul Manafort and how he figures into all this. As we were kind of reading this because these were sealed documents that we learned about a couple days ago, weve been waiting for the ticktock and fax to fall in. Now we are getting some details about the sort of stuff. Paul manafort was a guy when you had done a lot before he was looked at for the campaign. Im curious how this all comes together. Do we know yet where he is concerned . Just to recap, if they think back to last fall, rick gates and Paul Manafort were indicted together, if you will, for there lobbying activities, bank and tax fraud as well as Money Laundering. Question since then have been if the special counsel would be able to peel away one of these individuals to testify against of the other. With the expected guilty plea in just an hour from now, it appears they have been able to peel away rick gates, and we will see his cooperation in the special counsel investigation. Just for some more context, what weve seen in the last week is there been some media leaks that a deal was imminent. A deal was not for him but there was a lot of back and forth with one of the lawyers who was advocating for a plea agreement. As you rightly point out, 32 and count indictment was unsealed in virginia. This was kind of a legal pylon. It creates more pressure for the individual and gives them more incentive to reach a deal with the special counsel, which it doesnt appear to be the case here. Harris Catherine Herridge, thank you very much. It would be fortuitous if we could get reaction from the white house, and we can. Mercedes schlapp is the white house risk to Strategic Communications director and assistance to the president. Great to see you today. This is unfolding in the last hour or so. What is the reaction from the white house . This indictment has nothing to do at the white house or the president. As you know, we have been cooperative with the special counsel. As we continue to see, theres no evidence of collusion, no evidence of wrongdoing. Harris where does it stand right now the president sitting down with Robert Mueller and his investigation . Again, the president has been very cooperative and weve been very cooperative with the special counsel. Harris i know that his attorney has him looking at possibly some way to make that happen. Has the ball moved at all on that . I would have to refer you to his personal attorney. Harris i just want to press in a little bit because both these people, rick gates and Paul Manafort he heard Catherine Herridge say a legal piling on with all of this. Its a pressure point. The no knock door raid on Paul Manafort at that very Early Morning raid. Whats the white houses response to these former Campaign Workers . Of these actions, these indictments do not have anything to do at the white house. They have nothing to do with the president. President trump today has been focused on dealing with this issue of School Safety, as we know weve experienced a tragedy in park in florida. This week alone, he spent time with family, students come along for enforcement. He is ensuring that we take action when it comes to dealing with School Safety. Thats a top priority we are dealing with right now. Congress is coming up to session next week and will be meeting with governors, as well as meeting with congressional leaders to address this issue, as we know from parents out there who want to make sure that their children feel secure when they go to school, thats whats on the mind of the president. Thats what this administration is focused on. Harris i know that this just happened and theres a hearing coming up that we are being told in the next hour or so. I want to get one last question from you. There is nothing we can see, and weve got our journalist here at fox news looking at this. I was looking at it while i was on my phone on outnumbered. Theres nothing to suggest there is anything to do pointing to any evidence that did not exist between the Trump Campaign and colluding with russia. Last thought. I dont how may times we had to say it. Theres no evidence of collusion. As we continue to be cooperative with the special counsel. At this point, there will be those journals that want to keep focusing on russia and this issue. We will be continuing focusing on the president s economic success. We will be talking about the priorities that matter to the american people. You go out to Middle America and what they want to talk about is figuring out a way to solve this immigration problem that we have. Illegal immigrants coming into the country, something that the president address today to the grassroots activists where we are dealing with issues of having ms13 gang members coming into our country and killing innocent people in immigrant communities. Those of the issues we need to be dealing with. This is where we want to be working with congress to ensure we have real results. Under the president s leadership, thats what hes focused on, if you want to see Congress Take action on these issues of full safety, on these issues of immigration. Those are the issues that matter most to the american people. Harris we saw him speak for more than an hour today at cpac. Weve seen Something Else thats unprecedented. A signature move that is a roundtable that the president has been having, survivors, family members, not just the most recent tragedy but also others and it really listening and calling them listening sessions at the white house. Then with lawmakers and Law Enforcement. I wonder what its coming out of that now that the president has enumerated what he is seen done. What is that list looking like right now . It was a very emotional week here having those families that lost the love words in these tragedies. The president met with one particular family that lost their daughter, meadow. Those are the stories that impact your lives. This is a story that makes you realize we need to have real change in Real Solutions and to ensure that every child feel safe in your school. President trump hears that that, and he wants solutions to this. This is part of being able to develop what we see as permanent solutions, real policy that we know could cause real change. That includes improving the background checks, which we note there are these gaps that having existed between the military and Law Enforcement system. We saw these failures with Law Enforcement on in florida. The mere fact that you had individuals calling over to Law Enforcement 39 times and they didnt take action, thats a problem. The issue of mental health, and amongst the shooters. Its critical to deal with these issues to ensure that we are using our resources and making sure that all guns are out of the hands of dangerous individuals, those who would be dangerous to themselves or those who pose danger to society. Thats where the focus has to be. Where we have to fix these failures, and thats where the president is not only listening to the parents and students but also to the Law Enforcement officials and getting their input. He has a very broad view of what we need to do to go forward. Harris as you talk about that sheriffs deputy whod stood out on the stoop, and we know that we have footage of this because you have security camera, we know that that happened with that sheriffs deputy who didnt go in for 4 minutes while this was going on. He covered himself. He protected himself. He was there to protect but only protected himself. I wonder if the president has done anything about that. That is a drawing detail to learn. Speak of the president was completely disturbed by that news. When you think about that coach, that football coach who stood in front of his students and took the bullet, harris. Thats why you have to ask yourself, dont we need Additional Resources in the schools where they are able to deter any of these actions. We got to stop these guns. Both of the areas we need to look into. Thats with the president is looking into. A variety of options to ensure that those individuals that are in those schools that are able to protect our children. Harris it so interesting because i read that the president said, why was there only one there on a campus that big with 3,000 students . Great to talk to you today, Mercedes Schlapp. Thank you very much. Heres the news thats breaking this hour. In the next little while, we will see what happens with the former Trump Campaign aide rick gates expecting to plead guilty, and Robert Muellers rush investigation that so far dont have anything to do with conducting a collusion. Michael bekesha is Judicial Watch return to me. We have to get to see the truth of things. What your first reaction . My first reaction is what we will see what he pleads guilty to end what muellers next steps are. So far we havent seen anything associated with the Trump Campaign, and so everyone is still waiting to see that. Harris we learn and we knew this, we were just talking about this a moment ago, we knew that there were unsealed or rather steal documents that were coming unsealed so we could see these 32 new counts against both rick gates and Paul Manafort. What have you learned and what can you tell us . Sure, it looks like hes being charged on bank fraud and tax fraud. It looks as though he filed fraudulent papers with banks to get Million Dollar loans. He also seemed to not report everything on his taxes. Then there were issues with trying to get mortgages and whose houses they would be aired may be saying that his daughter was living one place where actually he was going to be using it. There are a lot of moving parts. Again, none of it relates to the Trump Campaign. Everything that took place happened before hand. Harris michael, i know you are a direct an attorney at Judicial Watch and are exposed to things, what would you say about the vetting process . This meant so much criticism for the Trump Campaign. If it took the fbi this long to uncover some of the stuff, how could they have been expected to be able to find out what these guys did all the way back to 2010 on their tax return . Where is the reality there . Thats absolutely right. Its really difficult to that people. In the quick pace at the was going. Harris to be able to go back in, thats almost a decade. It is almost a decade. And stop there and its also not really relevant to what these two individuals are brought on the campaign to do. They were brought on to help with the convention and make sure the boats were going to be there. Thats what their skill set was, thats what they were brought on to do. Nothing related to filing taxes, to getting loans involving the banks. Everything that they are being charged with has nothing to do with why the Trump Campaign brought them on during towards the end of the campaign. Harris i know that you and tom fitton and in at Judicial Watch are working hard in regard to both the investigations that we are talking about now. Also some other areas. What is front and center for you right now . Right now related to all this, we are seeking the budget for the Mueller Investigation. We want to know how much money mueller asked for, how much money he is spending. The government refuses to turn the information over. Harris why do we want to know that as a wider public . Why do we need to . Its probably tens of millions of dollars being argued really wasted by taxpayer money. For what is being charged, what these individuals are being charged for, department of justice could do it. He didnt have to go and create a whole separate team of 17 highly paid attorneys to investigate bank fraud and tax fraud. Thats not why they were set up, and its a waste of money to be doing that. Harris i can tell you at last look for those of us here at fox air more money has been spent, it was 7. 5 million after the first of the year but now its almost the end of february. Before i let you go, there is a hearing coming up in an hour or so and we will also learn more potentially after that about Paul Manafort. What are you looking for to come out of that process . I think the interesting thing will be what the next step is. Once he pleads guilty, how we see cooperating, who is he going to squeal on. Is he going to get dirt on Paul Manafort or does mueller and his team think that he has dirt on the Trump Campaign . Up my guess is its on Paul Manafort and they will try to squeeze him for more information. This investigation has been going on a little short of the year. There doesnt seem to be any connection to the Trump Campaign. We are waiting to see what the connection is, why is mueller and his Team Spending on this money to investigate something the Justice Department is perfectly capable of investigating without a special counsel. Harris Michael Bekesha with Judicial Watch. When you get that budget information, come back and tell us. Thank you for your time. President trump announcing new sanctions against north korea. Former u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. , john bolton will weigh in on whether they will have more of an impact and what additionally needs to be done to handle this. President trump talking immigration, going after democrats. Cpacs a speech more than an hour and 15 minutes. He says they are refusing to give him the laws we need to keep the bad guys out. We will talk about it. Stay close. I dont want people who drive a car at 100 miles an hour down the west side highway and killed eight innocent victims. In just ill take that. Yeeeeeah ensure high protein. 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