11%. that along with biden's poor showing in iowa is raising some eyebrows after the former vice president was seemingly absent from the campaign trail today. "the washington post" reports biden was instead a meeting with advisors at his home in delaware to talk about a potential campaign reset. the newspaper also says the former vice president's campaign is shifting and going from south carolina to nevada money with votes right after new hampshire. going after voters there. you are watching "outnumbered," i am harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. happy friday. fox news contributor lisa boothe, fox business network anchor dagen mcdowell and in the center seat, fox news political analyst, cohost of "the five," juan williams sat next to him of the super bowl, i was quite loud. good to see you. >> juan: you are enthusiastic and your team won. >> lisa: i think there might've been a mistake with the color wheel. >> harris: it is where red day and also the chief scholar. >> melissa: heart health awareness. >> harris: you got it. so juan williams, joe biden, tell me can you do a reset after a contest, why is it mattering to joe biden what happened in iowa? >> juan: i think it's more about what happens tonight on the debate stage new hampshire. i don't think that joe biden's campaign really wanted to campaign initially in iowa, it was clear that iowa was going to have tremendous impact media wide that said you better get out there. better do something when i think similarly tonight in new hampshire, he has got to start delineating himself very clearly from pete buttigieg and from bernie sanders. we see pete buttigieg it was said the mayor of a small town, never won a statewide race, that is coming from joe biden. you're going to see more of that tonight. >> harris: and then you come back with you ran for president twice before and didn't advance. >> juan: he was a six terms under, something incredible. but he's also been a vice president of the united states and very popular among democrats is vice president of the united states, especially black democrats in the second thing is it's got to go after bernie sanders because he also did well in iowa and he's got to make it clear that for a democrat, bernie sanders is a tomato can potentially for president trump, someone who is easily bloodied. that guy is a communist, a communist. as you can imagine the barrage that president trump. joe biden has already been attacked. >> melissa: it anyone is going to get attacked by president trump. this is exciting for democrats because one thing we learned in the last election is that they are sick of political dynasties and we thought it was going to be clinton versus bush in the last one, people were like you want something new and fresh, we don't want it to be one of those things where you have a powerful political family so you have bernie sanders who is way outside the norm and has this grassroots support and has change the way you raise money, used to be about getting the big donors, getting the companies. now they are dying for the small dollar donors that you can go back to again and again and pete buttigieg is a totally fresh face, so i think it's really exciting time for democrats. >> lisa: if he doesn't have a strong showing at new hampshire, he is done because the thing is, his entire candidacy he's been talking about how he is the most electable candidate, first add in iowa said as much and if you are not winning, you are not the most electable candidate and that is his problem. you can go back and look at the fact that president obama pushed him out in 2016, tried to push them out again in 2020 which i think says a lot about biden's candidacy because it's a guy you served alongside that you were number two, doesn't think you're a strong candidate, that's a problem. >> harris: karl rove was looking at the delegate count in iowa and claims in fact opposite of what you are saying, it is not over. let's watch. >> lisa: they are wrong. >> so when's i was going to win as a result of this and so-and-so is going -- is out. sanders would have 12 delegates, warren would have nine and biden would have a period of 41 delegates get split up roughly this way. are we going to say that this contest is over? >> harris: it is not over after new hampshire but if he doesn't have a good showing in nevada and south carolina, that's a problem. advertising shifting to nevada in "the wall street journal" about mike bloomberg, if he has any shot of the nomination, it must collapse before super tuesday on march the 3rd. that is the biggest fear for biden. so with nevada if you look at the outbreak right now, number one in nevada but bernie is three and a half percentage points behind him. and south carolina, still has a very strong lead because of the black voters in that state, he is up by 12 and a half percentage points over tom steyer in bernie sanders on this tie for second place in south carolina. pete buttigieg is fifth in nevada behind tom steyer and he is fifth in carolina. so even if pete buttigieg comes out ahead in new hampshire, i don't know what it's going to take for him to get momentum. >> harris: you talk about a reset, i wouldn't call it a reset with pete buttigieg. just watching him and talking with some new hampshire voters ahead of going on tuesday, what is like on the ground and as one woman said i'm in my neighborhood and pete buttigieg is walking around the neighborhood. he was on the ground, they were all there but his game is changing a little bit in anticipating big cash fall now. i just wonder what does a reset really look like? >> the real challenge, 38% of his donors were already maxed out so if you're not winning, not going to get money, don't have the money to go the distance when there are billionaires like tom steyer and mike bloomberg in the mix and nevada caucuses are notoriously hard to pull a new look at south carolina and has already seen slippage in south carolina and imagine another brutal loss in new hampshire what that would do to his numbers. >> juan: go ahead. >> melissa: meanwhile, dnc chair tom perez facing a growing firestorm over his response to the iowa caucus chaos. some members of his own party reportedly going far as calling for his ouster, ohio congresswoman telling politico he should step down as party chairman adding "we are a party in chaos." i know they have been trying to put it on the local chairman iowa who ran it but the buck doesn't stop there. is a national race, doesn't the guy at the top there are some blame what happened? >> juan: is a national embarrassment, total dysfunction and i think this has been a tough week for democrats but i think this was particularly dispiriting because it was in control of the democratic party of iowa and it was the local party that was in charge and that had this mix up. >> lisa: should he be fired? >> juan: no. he is the national party, he has just said this week he wants to re-canvas. he is trying to regain control. >> harris: the democrats that i'm talking to you, is not the answer. when i can get that the lane. >> juan: you think of that because of bloomberg? >> harris: if, in fact, they start to change the rules to let michael bloomberg into the democratic debate process outside of rules they had already set. >> juan: what tom perez says was after the first vote, going to have new rules for requirements to be in the debate. >> melissa: let me bring you back to tom perez in iowa, i do think you should be fired and he is to blame for a simple reason. because they hired a company for $63,000 to produce an app that no one tested and that couldn't load, so i would think that as the chair of the party at the very least, you would say show me the mechanism you are using to vote, does it work? nobody even tested it. so right there, no, he can't control the other things, maybe can't make the decision about what they are doing but wouldn't that be from a business perspective my question number one would be how are we doing the counting, how was the secure, show me how this works. >> dagen: that is the nuts and bolts of being a business executive but from the top down, it is also about marketing and tom perez coming out after they were already serious problems in iowa is like showing up and saying the houses on fire, the roof is completely gone and he shows up and goes somebody should get the garden hose. i just looked bad and this is a problem for the party going into the primary season because as you know, this year, there are no winner-take-all primaries. will reduce the numbers of the candidates out there we could be getting toward a broken convention. don't you need a better leader on the national stage? the performance in front of the voters is a big part of it. >> juan: to me, i don't think that leader is going to be the leader head of the democratic national committee. i think that leader is going to be one of the candidates and to pick up on your argument, i don't think there is any clear sense among democratic voters that one of these candidates has emerged as that leader person capable of beating donald trump. >> lisa: that is also a problem for democrats, you also have these that are a factor in the mix as well so they are going to extend, no winner-take-all if you have a proportional delegate allocation is a word i was looking for and then you have the fact that these billionaires are putting a lot of money in the race which also changes the dynamic but i think the bigger concern is the turnout factor. the fact that the turnout in iowa wasn't what they thought it was going to be and it wasn't. >> melissa: i think at that wow benefits democrats because it gives you a longer time to pick the winner and the person who wins will be the toughest candidate. i think going as long as you can with as many people in the field helps them. >> dagen: people dismissed candidate trump, but they put him down and the voters at the end of the day pick the candidate. >> juan: we live in a populist political era and donald trump, sanders, and even pete buttigieg, populist candidates. >> melissa: the national security council staffer who played a key role in the president's impeachment could soon be out of the white house. what this is about. plus, many in the media jumping on the president's impeachment acquittal speech yesterday, does the criticism go too far? 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maybe they don't want an actual conviction on removal, what they want to do is smear the person, i would say benghazi had that effect. speech you want hillary clinton? i don't think it did because they played the what does it all matter clip over and over again and her people thought she was so strong under five hours of questioning. >> juan: i think a lot of these investigations, the attorney general, i mean -- i think, you know, -- >> harris: your question was has it happened? it has happened. >> melissa: i thin i don't thini did have an impact. >> lisa: they keep trying to take the president down and it's not working, i think they should continue to go down this road because it hasn't been helping them, you could take a look at the most recent gallup poll where republicans for the first time since 2005 are above 50% and i think with the president needs to do is what he did on tuesday night where he goes out, his policy victory, the economy, i think he should do the same ads he ran during the super bowl talking about those accomplishments, criminal justice reform, he goes down the contrasting road of getting things done for the american people. >> melissa: the problem is regular people at home go, what are you guys doing? instead you're investigating each other, your job is fixing some of this garbage that's broken. >> dagen: if the democrats call john bolton, they are highlighting and shining a spotlight on the fact that they didn't do it during the actual impeachment process in the house, that they rushed it and they're going to go back to doing that, that that was a failure, that emphasizes the fact that the president was acquitted. john bolton has a book coming out, they called him and potentially and interview him, the impeachment was a political process and this would be more of an attempt to smear the president. >> harris: john bolton had offered to subpoena him, he would go and testify in the senate trial. it's not clear if he would give that same type of offer to the house. in a way you are right, you are back to square one because it's exactly how he would've been subpoenaed the first time so doing it now after the fact. i did speak with -- it wasn't represented, who was it, i can't remember what congresswoman it was but she said when i asked her do you think that they would try this again, impeaching and representative cheney said yeah -- you know, not wild about it but it wouldn't surprise her that democrats would try this again. that's why you see them going again with their investigation. i don't even know where you go with that. >> juan: the white house is still trying to limit what is in john bolton's book, his people are fighting back. >> harris: which is all good for him because those presales off the chart. >> juan: we focus on the democrats and the potential investigation but from my perspective i think, what about president trump? is he going to give them the opportunity, do something that opens the door to questions about democrats, why are the democrats -- >> harris: he learned a lesson, senator susan collins of the president learned a lesson. >> juan: let's hope. >> dagen: i was just going to say that john bolton would have to agree to show up in front of the house, they can subpoena him which is what they failed to do last year. >> harris: they are hoping that question by question -- he can't do an overhaul but there could be executive privilege. we don't know. they don't know a bolton will say. spea>> melissa: the obama administration under fire. a new report calls it inadequate, plus the coronavirus hitting new jersey as health officials screened dozens dozens of passengers off a cruise ship. the latest on this deadly disease. ♪ cologuard: colon cancer screening for people 45 plus at average risk. i've heard a lot of excuses to avoid screening for colon cancer. i'm not worried. it doesn't run in my family. i can do it next year. no rush. cologuard is the noninvasive option that finds 92% of colon cancers. you just get the kit in the mail, go to the bathroom, collect your sample, then ship it to the lab. there's no excuse for waiting. get screened. ask your healthcare provider if cologuard is right for you. most insured patients pay $0. >> dagen: president obama's administration mounted an insufficient response to the reelection campaign in 2016. the report released thursday describes the inadequate response as "understandable due to lack of information and limited policy options at the time." it also found obama officials not constrained by a highly politicized environment as well as concerns that any public statement on the matter could undermine confidence in the 2016 election. five republican senators on the committee are firing back on that conclusion, riding in an addendum, "such factors do not excuse the administration's failures to heed clear intelligence warnings, or take effective action to counter russia's activity before and after november the 8th 2016. i think the only obvious thing president obama did was telling vladimir putin to cut it out in september of that year. >> juan: he also went to mitch mcconnell and cited mitch, can we issue a bipartisan statement? you can understand what a political environment -- it's interesting to me, and listening to you, i almost think the democrats could've written that that response, why wasn't president obama more aggressive? why didn't he take the risk? why not? to the benefit of donald trump, not hillary clinton. >> lisa: if you read msnbc, they reported that the reason why according to high-ranking obama officials is because he thought hillary clinton would win back the election and after that didn't become the case, the book shattered documenting the fact that hillary clinton and her team got together to push the fact that the election was stolen from hillary clinton because of the russians and then you have president obama going and asking for this big review and placing sanctions on russia and is on his way out, president trump is on his way and so to me it looks political. >> juan: jim comey comes out days before the election, all of this looks political so the question given what we just heard about the senate intelligence committee report on obama is should obama have been stronger? i'm the president, i know i going to get flack from either side but the russians are trying to interfere in our election. >> harris: you are the democrat guest today, you're the only one that can answer that. >> juan: if i'm the president i'm going to protect the company, protect the country so i don't understand why he allowed it -- trying to be sensitive to everybody but why did he allow those political constraints to handcuff him, he should have just busted out. >> melissa: is it about busting out and saying something or is it about doing something? >> juan: if he said to us, melissa, this is not political, this country is actively separating on racial, ethnic, religious, everything. >> melissa: is in it about stopping them from doing it? >> juan: what do you mean by doing it? they spread divisive propaganda among the american people. speak to your saying they didn't do enough to take the threat seriously and act upon it during the election, isn't that the point? >> lisa: intel officials in october of 2016 use the unsubstantiated, unverified dossier the cia said they basically put a kin to internet rumor, using it against an american citizen. using information that was paid for by hillary clinton and the dnc. >> dagen: the trump administration were doing something about it and it was political, behind-the-scenes, the trump campaign was under investigation, to your point, under investigation and there was an abuse of surveillance power within the fisa court using research paid for by trump opponents, that's what was going on. maybe they didn't want to tip the hat to what was happening within the fbi? >> juan: they never announced that there was an ongoing investigation, they did about hillary clinton. >> harris: if you like you are having an epiphany. and i always really appreciate your transparency when it comes to these things, you are not happy with president obama about this, and -- >> juan: look, people like the ranking democrat on this committee, i think they say hey, look at the political reality, look at what he was up against. as i'm sitting here next year i think, you're the president, stop making excuses and going protect america. >> harris: did you say it then? >> juan: i did say it then but i feel it much more strongly now. >> dagen: when president obama was running against mitt romney and met romney said the greatest threat to america was russia and people laughed at him. and the whole russia collusion narrative with the clinton campaign was using that against president trump. i always saw that as a joke, the narrative hillary clinton and her cronies were pushing was that he was in vladimir putin's pocket. i got a shrug from mann. >> juan>> lisa: we agree, i'm enjoying this. it's probably fleeting. >> juan: okay, okay. >> dagen: we are going to fight. the mainstream media are going off after president trump took senate impeachment acquittal to a victory lap at the white house yesterday. whether the criticisms are warranted, does it cross the line? 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>> juan: i don't think there's any aversion to working with the president. i was going to come back and say hey -- the second thing i wanted to say to you is -- >> harris: i thought you guys went high. >> juan: i was shocked, shocked at that presentation in the east room yesterday. not only the profanity but gosh, it was like he was in therapy, stream of consciousness. anger. >> lisa: were you shocked by it nancy pelosi? >> juan: when she ripped up the speech? >> harris: when she accused him of not being with it. >> lisa: i don't necessarily know if the president did himself any favors with that speech yesterday. all those people out there saying it was poisonous, mean-spirited, vindictive, you would have to equally attribute all those things to nancy pelosi and the press conference she earlier had, when she went on her mean rambling press conference as well, that's where my issue comes in, there's not an equal application in the way people are seeing these things. an equal part victory lap and airing of grievances. >> harris: you know if you're having it out with somebody over and over and over for three years and everybody sits down you would hope their hearts with flour and say they're going to do this for the american people but is that even possible? >> dagen: it's about personal power in their own politics, this has nothing to do with america and their constituents because if it was about the people out there they would understand that when they hear president trump say that given the impeachment process, given everything he's been put through, it warrants a few curse words. he's mad, he's angry and this is my vindication and i'm going to show you how mad i am. i am from -- a redneck hayseed in the rural south. i was jogging and a friend of mine ran out of his house, somebody i grew up with and said -- you know, i don't agree with the president on everything but at least i feel like he's speaking from his head and his gut rather than reading words prepared for him by somebody, at least when it matters i know where he's coming from and i know what he's saying and that's what you've got. >> melissa: i think it is an all-out war on both sides and we saw both sides say a bunch of ugly stuff yesterday, i think the president had a golden opportunity at the prayer breakfast to go over and shake nancy pelosi's hand, that would've been a good move. not going to happen. they've always felt this way about each other, we just haven't seen it. it's been more hidden and now it's out in the open and if you watch it and you feel despondent and depressed, you should unplug and not watch it. it's not going to change or get any better. >> juan: i can't let that go. watch the fox news channel. >> harris: i don't know which political party this damage is most but we might've gotten the hint in ohio and iowa. in iowa you saw people going to the polls, use some kind of the opposite of enthusiasm, if you will. 2016 levels rather than all these democrats want to go against donald trump or they don't show up for the caucus and those numbers that were anticipated in iowa, is not a signal of what's to come? reading some reports yesterday and today, people are feeling a little depressed, what you do with that? >> juan: clearly it didn't go back. the same as we did, it was in 2012, when obama really stirred the pot with democrats. that's the case. we noticed. >> dagen: if rehearsed i roles and sneers worked and were interesting, fox would be number one. >> harris: the trump administration taking aim at sanctuary policies in new york and warning other states they could be next. what's being done and would movl it move the needle on the issue? >> the legislature and governor decided to do this as a policy matter and it's just a astonishing that they would sacrifice public safety in this way. ♪ americans come to lendingtree.com to compare and save on loans, credit cards and more! but with the new lending tree app you can see your full financial health, monitor your credit score, see your cash flow and find out how you can cut your monthly bills. download it now to see how much you can save. tv just keeps getting better. how you watch it does too. this is xfinity x1. featuring the emmy award-winning voice remote. streaming services without changing passwords and input. live sports - with real-time stats and scores. access to the most 4k content. and your movies and shows to go. the best tv experience is the best tv value. xfinity x1. simple. easy. awesome. xfinity. the future of awesome. >> lisa: the trump administration threatening additional states across the country with the suspension of trusted traveler programs as retaliation for their sanctuary policies. restricting global entry over the states green light law allowing undocumented immigrants to obtain valid driver's license. >> this is unbounded arrogance, disrespect of the rule of law, hyper political government and this is another form of extortion. it is pure politics, it has nothing to do with affecting government policy or laws. >> lisa: why should -- if they can't have access to that these dmv records, if they can't be determined if they should allow to be trusted in the traveler program, why should they be allowed in the program? >> juan: they shouldn't, that's not the issue. the governor is saying they don't need that to determine whether someone is allowed in for a global entry, they are limiting this for me and you, citizens of the usa living in new york as payback because a city won't play ball. >> melissa: i did a deeper dive on this yesterday talking to some people involved in it and what they said was if somebody like me in new york -- we have, i already have global entry, i can go along and do all kinds of things that would impact my record here in new york and they would never know about it because new york won't give them access to those records so i'm not the same trusted person who was given that global entry years ago because i was interviewed years ago. if since then i have driven drunk, robbed a bank, whatever it is they want access to, new york won't give them access to those records so they can't check up on people and make sure they are safe. >> juan: that's an extension over the argument over the immigration laws. >> melissa: they can't trust new yorkers to be in the program because they can't check if i've done anything crazy in the past couple years. that's the reason. >> harris: is it specific to new york? this is going -- >> melissa: there are a couple states. >> juan>> harris: if this is goo spread in some way, you can't even say it's just new york. >> juan: the point is, it's an anti-immigrant policy. >> lisa: you hear one, he's saying this is anti-immigrant, melissa is giving an other side of this. >> dagen: melissa is right, i like um and the global entry, being in new york, if i do something in this state, federal officials have no access to department of motor vehicles records, this is in the journal, sandra smith interviewed somebody from customs and border protection earlier, there are 13 states in the district of columbia that allow illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses but the trump administration is saying that new york is the unique among states in terms of walling off its department of motor vehicles. so there appeared to be, if there are any other states that also do that to the government, they are going to go after those states. it won't just be new york. >> lisa: i have a question for you. >> juan: very quickly, if you are an illegal immigrant, you can't get into this program. >> lisa: i said, you go through this interview, you will know somebody is illegal. that's not what it's about. it's about the fact that if you already have it and you do something -- >> juan: that's a separate issue. >> harris: one is whether you are new trying to get in and we find out -- >> lisa: marianne mendoza -- you also have people like marianne mendoza who wrote an op-ed very "usa today" saying policies in states like new york giving access to illegal immigrants are going to lead more families to the position she has where she lost her son due to a drunk illegal immigrant, what you say in response to that? >> juan: i wouldn't want to lose a child to anybody who was drunk, i don't think that's the issue. this is sort of anti-immigrant demagoguery, that's a drunk immigrant -- well at driving. >> dagen: that has nothing to do with what's going on. >> lisa: if you read the op-ed, she was talking about, this is part of a broader policy of giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses in states like new york, that was part of the broader -- >> juan: the other part of the argument is you don't want drivers without licenses. >> lisa: you've heard the president's reenactment of those texts, now the stage play coming, that's next. >> hillary should win 100 million. 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[laughter] >> melissa: i'm glad you brought that up. he will be on in the next hour with harris faulkner, they will be talking about that. >> dagen: is he in studio? >> melissa: no, he's going to be on monday. 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