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Our soldiers are out of there. Our soldiers are totally safe. Melissa this, as the president is set to meet with congressional leaders at the white house later this afternoon to discuss the situation in syria. Vice president pence and secretary pompeo are planning to depart from on cara today from talks with turkish president erdogan who said his nation will never declare a ceasefire. This is outnumbered, im both offenses. Here today, harris faulkner. Fox Business Network anchor, dagen mcdowell. Former aide to president obama, johanna maska. In the center seat today, fox news chief national correspondent, ed henry. He is outnumbered. Ed good to see you all. Melissa when they hear the president make that argument, it strikes me we were sitting on the couch years ago. Harris well, not that many years. Ed months [laughter] melissa maybe when the chauffeur started. When i was a common argument made during the obama administration. That this was, where are we getting in the way of this . Why dont we let the turks and the russians and everyone else fight it out you cannot that was before the rise of isis. What are your thoughts . Ed johanna was in the obama white house. Ive covered the president so we have known each other a long time. Good to have her on the couch. Thenbusinessman and donald trump and others were beating up on the president from pulling out of iraq too quickly. Thats we have Lindsey Graham and other senior public and saying, mr. President , you have to calm some of this rhetoric down. Number two, youve got to be a bit more careful in the moves you are making in the mideast. And make it look like we are it completely. Yes, we want our soldiers to be safe, but strategically got to be careful. I think thats what he smugly has a Vice President and secretary of state going to meet with erdogan. This morning he was saying, im waiting until the president comes. He has now backpedaled and it looks like he will sit down with the Vice President and secretary. Secretary. Harris i have a question for question for johanna. The lessons we learned it during the obamaera had to do with the creation of usama bin laden. We have trained time, we had worked it was kind of a similar situation. Not exactly, but kind of similar. Then we walked away. That left a fold of hate, hate america. It certainly created an opportunity for someone who was thirsty for blood. After what they did to us on 9 11. What lessons could be applied not to stand and ask to those people who helped us put down isis . Johanna i was with president obama at camp lejeune when he announced the pullout of troops from iraq. I remember him calling president bush to give him the information about that decision, because by then everyone was read in. The generals were there, people were ready to move troops to afghanistan and focus on the target, which was usama bin laden. I think it actually proves a point that republicans and democrats have been saying, which is that its very important to listen to experts in these areas. We were just talking about when we were traveling around. I was at the g20 in brisbane, and i think we were there together. I had to relay a message to erdogans spokesperson, because we were talking about the timing of a press conference. I remember having to walk on eggshells, because everyone knows that relationship is the one thats a little harris we call it chippy. In the hockey state of minnesot minnesota. Johanna they are the second largest contributor to troops in nato. So they are very important to the mess and our security, and we have to remember that. Melissa that brings up an interesting point. Ive been wondering about this. Dagen, theres all this back and forth about whether turkey should be a nato ally. Does this expose what their real behavior is and put pressure on turkey . Who is not behaved like a nato ally, but no one has really stood up to them and done anything about it . Now they do this. Is the president sort of daring europe to stand up and say, wait a second, you cant do this and be a nato ally . Dagen potentially, that the outcome. It also sounds a dangerous message to our allies and our interests around the world. That we wont stand with you. The president brought up the issue i think it was last week. They are fighting for their land, he said. As somebody wrote, they didnt help us in the second world war. They didnt help us with normandy, as an example. So you are not an alley of the United States unless you fought in world war ii . You are not an ally of us if the fighting we are participating in is on your own soil . This is to prevent terrorism, as terrorists brought up, from coming to the United States paid what message does it sent to our enemy . Whether its iran or russia. I want to point out he is planning sanctions and raising melissa im glad you brought that up. Dagen its probably not going to help. Well already had tariffs in place of their virtually no imports. Melissa they agree that sanctions may not work. Listen. I dont know if the sanctions the president has imposed on turkey are going to have a big enough impact. I think you will have to stop erdogan and hit him so hard that he coughs up bones. Melissa ed henry . A ed these are competing approaches in the trunk doctrine. Which is the President Campaign on the idea that we want to bring our troops home. That is a noble goal within the cost of blood and treasure over many years being a lot under president bush, under president obama, now under President Trump. They all have the school of eventually bringing folks home. As Lindsey Graham and others bring up, you bring them home to quickly and we dont have enough troops in the middle east. All of a sudden its a breeding ground for more terrorists, to harris his point. The fear is i dont want to be an alarmist, but another nine and dont like dont like 9 11 attacked on the road spew on this metastasized itself in 14 countries or more. It operates a little bit differently. Al qaeda and the peninsula, they were factions that were oppositional to isis because they wanted a caliphate. They wanted to own it. The veins are still there, the kind of knowledge that if you dont stand by those people who have fought with you and where american flags ed President Trump has done a good job of crashing isis, but you have to be careful of taking the boot off the throat. Harris can ask a quick question . I dont know the answer. A followup to dagen and erdogan and nato. Dont they have to say they are pulling out themselves compact is not something we could do to push them out. Is that how that works . Ed fa rescue me. Im sorry. Whats the question . Harris wouldnt turkey have to pull itself out of nato . Thats not something that we could push. Ed in the obama days they were entered nato, but i dont think they can be pushed out. Melissa Syrian Kurdish fighters reportedly left open back channels with syria and russia more than he before u. S. Troops pulled out. This, as we are learning that Russian Forces are moving in to fill the void in areas where american troops left. Johanna, what do you think about that . Johanna we were talking but we can learn with isis we underestimated the threat, righ right . Harris well, president obama called them a jv team. Johanna i think it was one of the team members. Harris a frightening underestimation. Johanna one is donald trump during . We are talking about that the worst thing that could happen is they could go to europe. Thats not going to be bad, but that is bad but thats how dagen melissa he tried e the point a short time ago that all these people hate isis. Every single group in here hates isis. He said the kurds stood by and pretended like they were going to let them go, and they let a few go in order to scare people, but then they didnt and they are all fighting against isis. Do you believe that . Ed we are about to see President Trump with the italian president , and italy is a key nato ally. If the view is just, oh, theyre not going to make it to america, but they go to europe. Theres a lot of important allies there, nato and others, that we want to make sure not the target of isis. Harris about what isis can do. Member, there been isis sympathizers theyve been rounding up in this country. Remember the trails in minnesota not too long ago, with those dozen or so young men who are wanting to join isis and have been accused of accepting money from different factions to be able to have that homegrown terror. Dagen if we dont fight the enemy there, that enemy and that evil comes. Harris its already here. Melissa President Trump will be speaking at the white house on the heels of Speaker Nancy Pelosi deciding to hold off on bringing a formal impeachment inquiry vote to the floor. Her republican counterpart firing back, plus the gloves come off at last nights democratic debate. Senator Elizabeth Warren taking heat from all sides, and now three house squad members are reportedly backing bernie. We will break it all down. Ok everyone our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition. For strength and energy whoohoo greattasting ensure. With nine grams of protein and twentyseven vitamins and minerals. Ensure, for strength and energy. Aleve it. With aleve pm. Pain happens. The only one to combine a safe sleep aid. And the 12hour pain relieving strength of aleve. So. Magic mornings happen. Theres a better choice. Aleve pm. That could allow hackers devices into your home. Ys and like all doors, theyre safer when locked. Thats why you need xfinity xfi. 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Harris ed, it seems like the tables have tipped just a little bit. You look at the new gallup polling today that we are watching at fox news. 52 , and that is not any one particular party. But people in that survey now saying impeach and remove. That is taking up. What you think is driving that . Does the white house need to change tactics on this with policy doubling down . Why would she take a full vote, she doesnt have to . Ed first on why the polls have been shifting come of the president says the polls are wrong. Well see. They are driving a narrative, bringing in all these witnesses, doing it behind closed doors. We are getting selective leaks from the democrats. Harris now they are called depositions and not just interviews to protect them more. Ed the American People are wondering whats going on. It sounds bad, they are doing this, theyre doing that. The leaks they are getting. Harris thats strategy. Ed of course. So you asked the question, where the numbers turned against the president . Thats part of it. The second part is that nancy pelosi we saw this on the couch before, if you have a formal inquiry you have to give the republican subpoena power. All. All of a sudden, hunter biden, joe biden, a bunch of other democrats could be called into this instead of a parade of trump officials. That will change the narrative big time. Look at what happened when hunter biden went on abc yesterday. It didnt go that well. He still didnt fully answer this, he is dodging questions. Harris im watching democratic operatives who have social media feeds and i wonder why they post. [laughs] because it brings the fire why do you think it didnt help . Ed that would shift it big time if all of the sudden the republicans could calling witnesses that change the narrative. So nancy pelosi doesnt want to do that. Harris she doesnt technically have to. I would think theres probably a little bit of strategy with policy, too. Shes got at least eight of not more democrats in vulnerable spots across the country. States were President Trump won remarkably. Or, markedly. Both of of those words are putg some areas. She is careful getting people i in. Johanna ever not to underestimate nancy pelosi. Shes very effective at getting legislation passed which he had control the house, when we were in office. Heres what i would say, though. I would say im going to make a production here nancy pelosi is going to call a vote for impeachment. When she calls that vote for impeachment, its actually going to put republicans in a position where, number one, they will have to cooperate with this investigation. In the white house is going to have to provide that information. Harris the white house is pushing back on subpoenas create you saw people who have been called. Giuliani, secretary of state pompeo, pushing back on those subpoenas. Thats not working for democrats yet. They arent able to bring people to the table. Now we are talking about i dont think anybody thinks it wont come to that. Thats what we are leading up to, a full vote. Ed before thanksgiving. Johanna republicans are also going to be melissa i totally disagree with that. It is about timing, youre right. Trying to run out the clock. Because this is the Perfect Point for democrats right here. They can hold things behind closed doors, they can leak just what works for them, that he do concur only what they want to. Nobody knows about it, they dont have to leak it out, not letting any republicans in. They bring it out into the open, now for the democratic narrative change to this is helping us. If we impeach him, damages him. To wear before they thought it strengthened him. I dont know what change their mind on that. Harris history does not show that to be true. Newt gingrich, former house speaker, will be the first to tell you. He has told us on this program and overtime, as well. If the president is not removed or doesnt resign in any instance like this, like bill clinton stayed in office, it does bolster them. Politically. Melissa but impeachment have happened after the reelection, and then the polls are showing them that it is weakening the president. The problem is, like so many people, i just dont trust or believe the polls. Harris you know what, dagen, though . Is underestimated the power of somebody who just likes to fight. President trump, look at the rallies he has given recently. He is a guy who likes to have the grit to push against something. In a way, democrats have created a situation that may in fact bolster him, at least in the short term, politically. Dagen and backfire on the democrats because you have tens of millions of americans, not just trump voters, who see a woman at a bunch of democrats in the house trampling on democratic norms. This is not the norm. If we are going to call it an impeachment proceeding, which is not formally, im also going to call it an abuse of power, which it clearly is. One other thing, the democrats have actually been talking about using littleknown congressional powers to detain, arrest, or fine recalcitrant witnesses to push impeachment quickly. Harris what does that mean . Dagen means arresting people, putting them in the clink at the ed they said they would do that to bill barr months ago and they never did. Harris before, from california last week, garamendi said if we give them subpoena power across the political aisle, if we hold a full vote, the democrats and republicans can fight it out. He was in favor of that. Part of the reason is if they push gives the subpoenas come he says lets get the sergeantatarms to put them in a little jail have on property. Ed i think that ends up making it a big food fight and donald trump harris its a circus. Dagen there are americans across this country from coast to Coast Holding their nose because it smells. Johanna there also americans wondering why our president standing on the south lawn of the white house and calling on china to investigate his political opponent. Because of that, i think vulnerable republicans are going to be as reluctant to vote on this as democrats. Harris why are you nodding . Ed im trying to listen carefully. I think i was nodding to the point that when the president talked about inviting china into all of this, that poured some gasoline onto the fire. The president stopped talking about all that and let this be a slideshow on the hill, i think he will be a lot better off. Melissa back to hunter biden and china, and hunter biden had to come out and explain about it. No he trolled them. Harris i love being on the couch in these moments, all of this circular stuff going on. [laughter] dagen it opens up all the conflicts of interest throughout the past between joe and hunter biden. Lets talk about harris whats talk about what you see live on the left side of your screen. We are getting ready to see President Trump of the white house on this very busy news day. You see him once today, now that bilateral News Conference, its always happening when a state leader comes. Youve got the leader of italy sitting next to him, and that News Conference will be live and we will carry it for you here on fox. Plus, rival democrats going after Elizabeth Warren last night. The burden of being a front runner. Womp womp womp plus, Bernie Sanders gets a muchcoveted endorsement. I have huge money saving news for veterans. Mortgage rates just dropped to near 50year lows. One call to newday usa can save you 2,000 every year. Zn ive been through two tours of call now to learn more. The calming scent of lavender by downy infusions calm. Laundry isnt done until its done with downy. Gmortgage rates have dropped to near record lows. Refi now at newday usa with no income verification, no appraisal, and no points. I want to give it a reality check here to elizabeth, because no one on the stage wants to protect billionaires. Not even the billionaire wants to protect billionaires. Sometimes i think senator warren is more focused on being punitive or pitching some part of the country against the other. Instead of lifting up. We heard it tonight, yes or no question that didnt get a yes or no answer. At least bernie is being honest in saying how hes going to pay for this, and taxes are going to go up. I do think its appropriate to acknowledge that taxes will go up. They are going to go up significantly for the wealthy. Melissa Elizabeth Warren finding out her rise in the polls comes with it a lot more attacks. Time and time again in last nights debate her democratic rivals hit her over how she would pay for all of her insanely expensive plans, such as medicare for all entry college. This, as Bernie Sanders reportedly wins the backing of at least three members of the progressive squad. Congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez expected to make it official when she peers with sanders at a rally in new york city this weekend. Ed henry, they did really go after her. She took it well, but she still didnt talk about how she would pay for it, because there is no way to pay for it. Ed she starts most of these answers, let me be very clear. Melissa in that shes not. Harris ive got a plan. Ed but others on the left are saying, wait, we are still fuzzy on the details. I chuckled when he came to me, because as you played those clips at sounds like an after President Trumps reelection. They dont know which way they are going. Have a picture Bernie Sanders, his big get out of this debate is that the squad is interesting and . President trump would want to promote that. That hurts him in the middle of the country, i think. Elizabeth warren cant expand how she will pay for this, but the other candidate say, regardless, your taxes are going up. People dont want their taxes to go up all around the country. Melissa hes honest about it. We will tax everything that moves. Dagen, its not even fuzzy math. In my mind, with elizabeth cruel to promise things to people, that if you took anybody who makes over 200,000 a year and you took away their income for the year and you sent them to an island to die and you confiscated their money, you still couldnt pay for the things that shes talking about. Thats not just, how are you going to pay for it . What math on what planet are you using . Dagen i thought it was the coolness of having the government make decisions about your health and your health care. That accrual argument, where government cronies like, i coh, is hunter biden going to get a sixfigure job . And the different deciding it certainly has to be in play to make this work. The math is simple. Even the New York Times factchecked Elizabeth Warren on the math, that she has come out, it would require substantial additional government spending, that she has talked about our new wealth tax, a new corporate profits tax, and an expansion of Social Security taxes. Almost all of that revenue is earmarked to pay for other domestic spending programs already. Free Public College tuition, child care subsidies. If you took every dime, every cent, and reported eight gross income above the top 100 in the country, comes for about 2 trillion per year. Medicare for ear dominic all calls for two and half trillion dollars per year. If you confiscated every dime. Harris melissa johanna,y askey. We talked about this report, the squad will come out, various members, to come out and endorse Bernie Sanders. It seems like hes the real deal, hes the margarine. Johanna are not surprised because he inspired many of them. Those in the endorsements that im paying the most attention to because they were kind of protectable. Bernie has his own reasons for surrounding himself with youth right now. There are congresswomen, these are three of the 102 congresswomen were going to make endorsements, and there are five specifically on the democratic side who have military or cia experience in vulnerable districts where they won, in a district that President Trump won. Those are the endorsements that i am paying attention to, because i think thats going to be the real bellwether of where the democrats can win. Harris you know, its odd im looking at some of the feedback today. He was mostgoogled . I always view those things. Who won the debate . There are so many people on the stage, i think of it but he gets a piece of the pie in some instances. But i did to think it was not good in terms of a look for Elizabeth Warren not to be ready for some of those attacks. I do think at some point it helped Bernie Sanders, because for the most part they have a little bit of the same socialist tint of an argument platform. He is much more specific than she is, and Kamala Harris went after her and said, pipe dream, in terms of how she would pay for some of the stuff, Elizabeth Warren. I do think last night Bernie Sanders came across as someone who to give it a little better because hes been in those shoes. It really is its my blank plan he started cussing. Its my plan ed you have sanders and war and in relatively strong positions, and joe biden was supposed to be the establishment guy who its to the party to a centrist course. I think it hasnt happened, and everyone. Because of hunter biden and other reasons. But the biggest thing to come out in the last 24 hours is not the debate, its the money paid the cash on hand joe biden has. We learned that that morning. Its not good paint hes only got a few million bucks in the bank, whereas sanders and mont warren have a lot more money. Hes burning money, has too many consultants. Hes not in a Strong Financial dagen terrible fundraiser, undisciplined, with a glass jaw. Thats joe biden. Melissa defending himself and his son in last nights debate with some of his strongest language yet. Whether it will be enough for him to turn the page. We will see. I never discussed a single thing about anything having to do with ukraine. No one has indicated i have. Every american wants their dollars to work as hard as they do. However, since 2000, the buying power of the dollar has dropped by over 31 that means the dollar is only worth about 68¢ now compared to 2000. Had you owned gold, your value would have increased over 400 and owning gold is easy. 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If thats what we should be focusing on. Dagen Vice President joe biden defending his son, hunter, and himself at last nights debate over questions about his sons foreign business dealings, saying the focus really should be on President Trump and not on them. Biden getting some tag team help from a rival. Watch this. Literally using donald trump lies, the second issue recover on the stage is elevating a lie and attacking the statement pair that was so offensive. He should not have to defend ourselves, and the only person g that was donald trump seeing that we are distracting from his malfeasance and the selling out of his office. Dagen be 11 . Ed i get why cory booker is doing that. Democratic primary voters dont want to hear more about hunter biden. They want to get the focus on President Trump. That makes a lot of sense. What doesnt make sense to me is where the former Vice President himself has not sat down for some major interview and just exhausted all the questions about this. Instead you get this bland, we did nothing wrong. Hunter biden is front and center with abc and didnt really answer the questions very well. There were a lot of spotty moments in the interview. We still havent gotten a clear explanation on why he was being paid about 80,000 a month. Maybe hes got some great Energy Experience we dont know about. Im not being facetious. Maybe theres some other piece of this. The former Vice President has just dismissed it, reporters asking questions. Im not going to answer that, walked away. Peter doocy asked in a few weeks back, he said i never talked to hunter. We look at the new york piece from the summer and he said he did talk to his father about some of this, not all of it. The story hasnt completely added up and hes been dismissive of it. I think his campaign has suffered because of it. Melissa its true. The defense was i didnt know any less about the industry that anybody else on the board. If you are a ukrainian oligarch who is being investigated by the government, the Oversight Board that you want are people who know nothing about your industry. It makes perfect sense. Ed the debate last night, 80,000 from an orc dog oligarch. Its absurd for the average voter cant relate to this, where the campaign has done a better job i dont understand. Dagen i will just point this out. Why are we discussing conflicts of interest with the bidens . Because they are on the surface for all to see. Vice president when he first ran for the u. S. Senate in the early 70s, and this was in the new yorker article, he pledged to that in order to avoid potential conflicts of interest he would never own a stock or a bond. He would only own property. If that is the flag that you plant in the ground, when that flag falls over somewhere during your time in office, you are going to get ask about it if youre running for the highest office in the land. Or the democratic nomination. Johanna can i say, this is the reason President Trump wants this to be part of the conversation. Hes a master marketer. He knows hes vulnerable in this area. He knows his vulnerabilities. Subsequently, as he looks at them and bees, it beefs up his own defense and he looks at the fact that he didnt put his money in a blind trust. He has his sons running the company. They are flying with security details. There is a cost to taxpayers for the business they are doing. They have done real estate deals that they will have to talk about. Melissa i would love to respond to that. Johanna there are three green lights on ivanka trumps trademarks the same day she was at a state dinner with president xi. Peter schweizer wrote an oped in the New York Times, and he said he was calling on the washington corrupt practices act or Something Like that. I will say, growing up in illinois, this little midwestern town where we do not make 80,000 a month, a lot of us are going, yes, give us a washington corrupt practices act. Melissa President Trump at all of his children were dominic made a fortune before any of them went into politics. The bidens didnt have a dime. Until he piggyback off his dad. The reason why that matters is because he, again and again and again, whether he was in his time as a lobbyist or when he was on one board or when he then jumped into private equity with no finance experience, he again and again went and made money in places where his dad had massive amounts of influence. That looks horrible. That is the point. Go ahead. Johanna Jared Kushner is supposed to be solving this crisis. Dagen my issue is this is about joe biden, who wants to be the democratic nominee. Hes going to have to answer these questions. There are a lot of questions about the Credit Card Company that was based in delaware, he was a senator from delaware. Joe biden, when he was a senator he backed a very tough bankruptcy bill in 2005 that was one of the top legislate of priorities. Hunter worked there after yale law school. The senator obama at the time oppose the bill, so to john mccain. This is an article from 08 in the wall street journal about conflicts of interest. Its going to come up. Ed its radioactive because it was front and center last time, and Elizabeth Warren is doing it in the primaries. Its not just a republican versus democrats issue. Elizabeth warren was against that, too. We want it still isnt reflective in the polling for joe biden. Im wondering the timing of that. The Washington Post article they were talking about earlier, ed, which talked about how much money each of the democratic president ial candidates the top tier, the top three or four has in their coffer right now, going into the wind of the fall season before the elections of next november its really troublesome for joe biden. We havent seen the reverb of all of this in the polling yet, but we are seeing the reverb of all of this happening on the trails to collect money. Ed when hillary lost to barack obama in 08, she had a big burn rate. Consultants. She had to spend money to raise money. Barack obama could go somewhere and it flew in because he had all these harris so joe biden isnt going anywhere . He will hold a rally, do a few things, but hes not doing that sitdown interview that would help with this to bed. No matter what, you got to spend more money dealing with this or let the pacs do it for you. Ed they dont have money problems because the left is an address for them, not for biden. Johanna do you remember the thing we bought up . We had a website review could dispel myths. There were a lot of myths about president obama. This is not new. Harris im going to jump in with this breaking news. Joe biden, whom we are speaking about right now, is in columbus, ohio, talking. Lets watch. We believe we are going to stand with him. One of the things i think was done so brilliantly after world war ii was our fathers and mothers put together a Security Apparatus that builds everything from nato to our alliances in the pacific that were not just designed to keep russia from invading europe. They were to keep europe from fighting one another. They were to keep us together so no one nation could abuse power. I hope she didnt mean, in a literal sense, because it would be a disaster for American Security and American Foreign policy. Reporter we are a little three months away from the iowa caucus, and your campaign is burning through a lot of cash. Bernie sanders has more than three times the amount that you have. Are you confident in your resources if this primary carries all the way . I am confident. Reporter are you changing anything operationally . Remember, we got started later than anybody at all in this campaign, number one. Number two, we did not start off by dropping 10 million from a Senate Campaign wherever that money was raised from into a race. Number three, we have been in the process of having about a third of the time that many people have had, and we are doing fine. Our fundraising is building. We have raised a lot of money online, and we have raised money off line, as well. We feel confident we will be ready. Reporter mr. Vice president , can you talk about what its like to have a target on your back is a front runner in the race . It felt like there were some deals with a target on their back that was the center of the conversation. Do you still feel like a front runner . Is it a good thing to see all the attacks heading in other directions . Its kind of about time other people get questions. I dont think i havent seen any polling showing that nationally on average, than anybody else is a front runner. You guys keep talking about that. I think Elizabeth Warren has done very well. She has moved. Now that she has moved and is being taken more seriously, they are going to ask her about a little candor. Tell us how youre going to do what you say youre going to do. What i found interesting last nights two things if you notice, all of my colleagues talked about, biden cant work with republicans, we cant unify the country. Didnt you hear all those closing statements can back i found it amazing. They all had an epiphany. Guess what . Theyre going to work with these are republicans. We know how to do that. You have to. You have to be able to do this, and we can do it. The second thing i observed was that all of the sudden everybody likes the Biden Health Care plan its the same plan. Thats a good thing. Thats the focus. Public opinion is changing across the board. Im feeling awfully good about last nights debate. Reporter on impeachment, that the president should be impeached if he does not comply with congress. But now we are seeing that with Vice President mike pence and also secretary pompeo. Do you think they should no, look. Lets do one thing at a time. This is going to be a gigantic undertaking, impeaching the president who deserves to be impeached because he has indicted themselves. This is a difficult thing for a nation to go through. We talk about it like, well, listen page. Lets have all these impeachment parties. The fact of the matter, ive been through two of them. Two president s being impeached. Its deadly, deadly earnest. This is a constitutional issue. Focus on the constitution. The irony is the very day the constitution was signed, when Benjamin Franklin came out and said, what are you giving us, mr. Franklin . And he said, a republic, if you can keep it. And right after that when George Washington was sworn in and he talked about the greatest concern a new republic has his influence from foreign powers. That is a gigantic issue. Well, its ironic that we learned about mr. Trump asking for foreign powers to intervene on the same day that the constitution was signed. This is a constitutional issue. It should be taken in a deadly serious manner. This should be done at a minimum one at a time. In the meantime, other people like guiliani they may go to jail. They may not be impeached, they may go to jail. At least the two suggs he had with them have been indicted. Theyve been totally discredite discredited. I think this is a very serious undertaking. Reporter how do you convince progressive voters that you are a better choice than Bernie Sanders, when alexandru katsu cortez Just Announced that he is her guy . Thats how i do it. [laughs] reporter mr. Biden, when you learned your son had taken that job, do you regret not going to him and maybe saying, you shouldnt do this . To fend off this whole situation . My son a post risk comments and im very proud of myself. My son about stress, and speak for themselves. Lets keep the focus here. The president of the United States says he wants to talk about corruption. Lets talk about corruption. He is running the most corrupt government in the history of the United States of america, number one. Number two, he also is in a position where, as he talks about corruption, he has engaged in practices that, in fact, everyone around the world was looking and saying, how in gods name can this man be doing this while hes president . Look mr. President , you want to talk about corruption . I have released 21 years of my tax returns. I entered as one of the poorest men in congress, left one of the poorest men in government and congress and as Vice President. I made no money while he was in there, other than my salary. Mr. President , even Richard Nixon released his tax returns. Mr. President , release her tax returns or shut up. Reporter you dont regret anything . No, i dont. Because i never discussed it with my son anything having to do with what was going on in ukraine. Thats a fact. Look, guys lets focus on what the problem is, here. The problem is a corrupt president engaging the reason why he is running after me is he knows that i will beat him like a drum. He understands that. Have you ever heard of anybody going out and getting these special interests . All of whom i have beaten . The nra, the gun manufacturers, the health care people. Across the board. Have you ever heard any time that they spend millions of dollars going into a primary of another party to try and eliminate a candidate . To try and beat a candidate before they can get a chance to beat them . I mean, come on. This is so obvious. This is so obvious. As i said, Rudy Giuliani on the henchmen, and trumps lawyers, how many of these folks are in jail . Piece of the president s, for gods sake. This is a corrupt a thoroughly corrupt outfit. And the reason why i will change if im not mistaken, and i did not coordinate any of this with my son. I didnt even know he was having these long discussions for some time with abc. I guess its a bc. Was it abc . Yeah, with abc. But he pointed out the reason why he regrets it is he didnt anticipate that suggs like guiliani would use it to in fact try to embarrass his father. Thats what they are. They are flat thugs. The reason why im setting up the idea that ive laid out has nothing to do with hunter. In my white house, none of my children or family have offices in the white house. Melissa this is joe biden in columbus, ohio, asking questions from reporters, saying my sons comments speak for themselves. He also said the president should release his own tax returns or come in his words, shut up. Notes go to the president now and listen to his response. President trump we have known each other for a wild, weve dealt with each other for a while. Weve had some really great conversations. Weve had a very productive discussion throughout today with our staffs and representatives, and i look forward to hosting the president and his daughter, laura, at a reception for the italianamericans this evening. I look forward to that very much. The United States and italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to ancient rome. Over the centuries, the italian people have blessed our civilization with magnificent works of art, science, philosophy, architecture, and music. On monday we pay tribute to the italian explorer who led a voyage of discovery to the new world. A gentleman known as christopher columbus. To me, it will always be called columbus day. Some people dont like that. I do. Today, the United States and italy draw strength from our cherished heritage as we Work Together to safeguard our people and promote prosperity as nato allies, our countries cooperate closely on a wide range of critical defense issues, including the protection of our nations against radical islamic terrorism. The problem is that italy is only paying 1. 1 instead of the mandated 2 , which by and of itself is a low number. It should probably be 4 . Anywhere from 4 to 5 . Only eight of the 28 nato countries are paying the 2 , meaning 20 of the countries are delinquent in the payment to nato. And they have been for many years. Germany is at 1. 3 at most, depending on calculations. Spain is at less than 1 . Turkey, believe it or not, is almost current. Almost paid up. I want to just think secretary general stoltenberg, because he is going around saying that President Trump was able to raise over 100 billion last year, which is true. But its still only a large fraction. It is still a large fraction of the amount of money that is owed by many of the countries that arent paying their dues. We hope that italy will boost its defense spending in order to meet in natos minimum 2 of gd, and i will say that they have just purchased and we learned about it today 90 brandnew, beautiful f35s. The Strike Fighter program is doing phenomenally well. One of our major challenges, and the challenge facing nato today, is instability in the mediterranean and north africa areas. Much of the volatility in that region stems from the violence in libya, which is very close to italys borders. The president and i were talking about that at great length. A big problem. The ongoing would be in conflict has led to a migration crisis, placing significant and unfair burdens on italy in particular. Ive asked that the European Union get much more involved, because they are not involved enough. Thats a problem for the European Union. They do very well with us on trade. They had a trade surplus with the United States over the last five or six years of about 150 billion a year. They have to get more involved and help italy. The Italian Government has stepped up as a leader, to fight this illegal immigration. We urge also our nato and European Partners to take from action to halt illegal immigration and uphold sovereign borders. Immigration control is critical to national security, and essential to the wellbeing of our citizens. Nations must be able to vent, screen, and properly manage entry and admission into society. You know the legislation that we have passed, we have absolutely no help from the democrats on our borders. Absolutely nothing. The closure of loopholes, which would be very easy to do, they refuse to do for you they want open borders. Italy doesnt want open borders. We are not going to have open borders. Our numbers are very good. I want to thank also mexico and the president of mexico for the great help theyve given us. Theyve helped us much more than the democrats. Here in the United States we are taking dramatic action to secure our borders, shut down smuggling networks, and speed the removal of illegal immigrants. We are moving the ms13 gang members out, literally by the thousands, we are dropping them out of our country and they can come back. What weve done with guatemala and honduras and el salvador, they tell me close to a miracle, the agreements that weve signed. They accept them back and they keep them back. Its a much different relationship than weve ever had with those three countries. I want to thank the leadership of those three countries. Weve been working very well together. Our message is clear if you enter illegally, the United States, you will be promptly returned home. They are all returning home. It takes a long time, because weve had years of people coming and staying, and thats the end of that. President matarella and i also discussed the steps we must take to enhance commerce and Economic Growth between our two countries. Our nations are already investing nearly 70 billion in each others economies. Without the burdens, as unfair as they are, imposed by the European Union, we would actually have a much higher number than 70 billion between italy and the United States. However, we can do more and we can achieve fairness and reciprocity, which we dont have right now. Americas trade deficit with italy accounts for about 20 of our nearly 150 to 170 billion probably according to some estimates, could even be 178 billion of annual trade deficit with the European Union. We welcome italys support for a mutually beneficial trade agreement with the e. U. , that ensures a level Playing Field for american workers. It hasnt been that for many years. I could solve the problem instantly, but it would be too harsh. It would be too harsh. It would involve tariffs on european products coming into this country, and for right now we are going to try and do it without that. But that would solve the problem instantly, because the United States is not being treated fairly. We also welcome italys participation in combating predatory trade and investment practices worldwide, especially in technology. We must Work Together to shield their intellectual property, Critical Infrastructure ports, and data security. I applaud italys recent commitment to use only safe and