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A news show featuring the top headlines of the day from pop culture to politics, which are discussed by a rotating panel of four women and one man. let's go to doug mcelway, live with the news with a. great to see you. >> brittian had long ago come to the conclusion that russia used a nerf agent to poison the two. it was only yesterday that the state department officially concurred, promising to impose new sanctions. the sanctions will take effect later this month and are believed to include denying russian licenses for the purposes of exports among other things. the any sanctions follow the trump administration order last march to expand 60 russian diplomats, the largest expulsion in history and close the russian consulate in washington. russia vehemently denied the poisoning. >> connecting new sanctions to these events in salisbury is unacceptable and these restrictions as well as those imposed by the american side before are absolutely unlawful. we believe and don't conform to international law. >> russia is promising yet unnamed retaliatory sanctions of its own, ult may times against russia are useless. it asks the u.s. to make public any evidence that russia is responsible for the poisoning. the u.s. won't do that, citing classified information. the chairman of the house intelligence committee says the sanctions send an important message. the last time we engaged on this was when kim jong-un had his own half-brother assassinated with a nerve agent. if you recall, this law, this 91 law, was used to put additional sanction sanctions on north korea. those sanctions ales with as sanctions passed in congress, and i was the author of that legislation, helped bring north korea to the table. >> the caselation in tensions follow last month's summit in helsinki where the leaders of both countries agreed to work toward better relations. harris, gak to you. >> harris: thank you. governor, i guess it's like a clap b.c. sanctions. do we use enough russian products, what's that going to look like. it hurts rush kwa a rot more than us. when the russians talk about draconian, what's more draconian than killing somebody on the streets of a foreign country. that's pretty draconian. russia is in trouble economically. it's very important this administration has made. i wish the president got more credit for what he's done, to punish russia, he's been virtually brutal to them. anything but a puppet of them. i don't know why people are not recognizing that his toughness is having an impact on russia. >> harris: reuters is reporting in just the last few minutes the creme wlin spokesperson is now saying that their economic life over there is completely, their finances completely stable according to the kremlin. >> one way to say it. you know -- stable? >> they have a long history of always telling the truth and never exaggerating anything. take it at face value. they have said the poisoning was a hoax f that's the case explain where the nerve agent same came from. if this is something you are supposed to have such tight lock over, then explain how it got out instead of just trying to dismiss it with this digital propaganda. they're doing the same thing with the nonexplanations. they're not going to come out and say, yep, we poisoned the guy, we don't like him. and vladimir putin has a way of fatally dismissing his political enemies. when chris wallace confronted him in the interview here on fox news, he pointed to jfk and martin luther king. >> harris: i remember. katie, i want to ask you, it's the political component of all of this. democrats of course go after the president for not being tough enough based on the rhetoric that they see. i don't know if they're choosing passion over policy but the policy wouldn't lead to us believe he's not tough. >> again, it's interesting how democrats all of a sudden are concerned about russia. republicans have been concerned about russia consistently since the 1980s. now that president trump is in office they seem to be thinking russia is the top concern. their economy is smaller, half the size of california, it's smaller than italy. this will affect 70% of their economy. when it comes to the last couple of months, harris, in terms of the politics here the president has been criticized for being too tough on nato, not standing up to nato, for daring to say that they need to contribute more in order to go after russia. this situation shows that nato is working together with the united states, making this decision to now implement these sanctions. it took a while, they could have done it faster, but the french are with us, the germans, the brigts are with us. this is a coordinated effort to go after russia, the president standing up for nato rather than going after them as he's been accused of doing. >> harris: further down the road, democrats say the only reason, some of them not all, the only reason the president is doing this he legally has to do this. as you pointed out, there's been a journey to get to this point. >> in fact it's been an about-face from the obama administration, president obama abandoned those missile defense shields that were going in to poland and into the czech republic. he took real action to strengthen and help russia. on the flip side of that, you watch the president follow the exact same path that he did with kim jong-un, you remember they also had a nerve agent attack. he retaliated as a result of that, the president doing it with russia. not to mention he parked at nato about buying energy from russia which is how they were going to get money. putting l and g terminals in russia, rather than have europe dependent on natural gas from russia. he put a ton of economic and social pressure on them when in fact the last administration did very of the opposite. the president talking in detail about the relationship of energy between germany and russia. >> i'm glad you brought up the energy part of this. the ability of the u.s. to be energy independent is not only energy, it's national security issue. by us now being at a place where we no longer have to go hat in hand to the saudis or anyone else to get energy, because of technology like tracking and because of exploration, we put ourselves in a very strong position where we can put the squeeze on putin, we can really make it difficult for him. the only thing he really has in terms of a great commodity is energy. when we take that away from him, these sanctions, i mean they're a gut punch to the russians right now. >> and it doesn't make for noncorrupt regimes. look at the energy producers around the world. what happens there. look at saudi arabia, russia, venezuela, look at the oil-rich countries. i long for the day when we get off that dependency completely. i do think it's going to be the united states that leads the way technologically. and it will be the free market. i have one question, i think it's odd that i have a great deal of respect for senator rand paul, but i don't understand why he's acting as this mail carrier. i wonder where is john huntsman? we have so many discussions about russia, and you never hear his name. >> let's settle on that for a second, governor, this is a great opportunity to talk with you. >> harris: you make so many trips around the world to different places. the white house pushed back pretty hard on this idea that senator rand paul had been sent directly to do this. they said no, he came to the white house and said write an introductory letter. i don't know how often that'snesses. he has traveled all over the world. do you need introductory letters, what's going on there? >> it's somewhat of a normal procedure to get a letter of introduction. makes the visit a little more official. it doesn't really mean anything, you don't get a diplomatic passport, you say is that good guy, you might ought to meet with him. that's all. i think the white house was a little miffed that the senator tried to present it as if he's an envoy, emissary negotiating with putin. he had a courtesy meeting. . where is john huntsman? >> we have a very good ambassador in john huntsman. >> secretary pompeo, people's jobs they are to do this. >> harris: i was curious, with the governor here -- >> probably some peach many, the names -- people, the names of which we don't have as household names the folks that do the back channel stuff, pretty normal in any type of situation that we're fating. >> the bigger picture, this is dealing with the poisoning, on british soil. when it comes to the russians there are high stakes in a larger negotiation. the president talked to president putin about the situation and the united states implementing the sanctions knowing they have to deal with that negotiation in the future which tells you a lot about where we think our leverage is. >> harris: i started by saying the reverse sanctions on us, they haven't hurt, you said no, governor. i didn't think we were buying that much russia stuff. >> no. vodka. [laughing] allegedly. >> no comment. >> harris: is daca seeing its final days? the legal action brought by the texas attorney general that could halt applications and possibly end it for good. plus, new developments in the showdown between president trump and robert mueller and his russia investigation, what the president's legal team reportedly wants off the table and any possible sitdown as they unleash some of the harshest attacks yet. >> this is an investigation that at its outset has been corrupt. there's no question about that. it continues every single day. there seems to be a new revelation. no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. i'll take that. 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what do we need to know, this is a totally illegitimate investigation. based on a report, a dossier, that was paid for by hillary clinton and the democrats. probably the biggest illegality so far, the biggest collusion so far. >> melissa: guiliani hitting on the electoral politics, saying now i think the continuance of the investigation would actually help. people are getting tired of it. the president needs something to energize his voters because the democrats look like they're energized. nothing would energize republicans more than let's save the president. katie, what do you think? >> katie: that's a fair point, you see the president repeatedly and just as we started the show tweeting about how russia investigation is a witch hunt, he's gone after robert mueller directly, republicans do need something to energize voters to go into the mid terms, the base to turn out, mid terms are all about turnout. it's true that people are sick of this investigation when it comes to polling, it's at the bottom of the list what people are concerned about. public opinion about the russia investigation shows they believe it's politically motivated. the president with himself and his team, his personal counsel or the white house counsel, have done a very good job at turning the page on this and making it so people are motivated rather than the other way around. >> melissa: here's the tweet, this is an illegally brought rigged witch hunt brought by people don'tly corrupt or conflicted. started and paid for by crooked hillary and the democrats, phony dossier, so many lying and dishonest people fired, 17 angry dems, stay tuned. governor? . i wish president trump could be clearer about how he feels. the fact he's lacking the transparency to share his emotions is very troubling. >> yes, yes. >> two things most americans need to see. one is that the federal agencies were weaponized against the president before he was president. >> melissa: correct. nompblts doubt about that. that ought to trouble every american. if the federal government can go after some one running for and becoming president they can go after them. and they will and they will end up winning. most people don't have the resources of a president. and the second thing, is that what ought to trouble americans is that when the congress asks for information and gets stone walled, that is a serious problem, i can't stonewall the fbi if they come after me, why should the fbi or doj or any agency be able to stonewall the proper authority to ask questions about this on behalf of the american people. we're a dpochlt of the people and we're being run over by government agencies supposed to work for us not the other way around. >> harris: while you make those points senator lindsay graham went golfing with the president and the president wanted to talk believed there was some one corrupt within the trump campaign, how do they defend the notion that they didn't warn him, brief limb, tell him -- brief him, tell him. rather decided to exploit it, almost seems like, and see how far they can take it. >> kennedy: this guy had a 50-50 shot of running the free world. you would hope that these agencies with their spy poer that was codified by kong gres would forewarn the potential future president he has people inside doing a great deal of damage to his campaign and to the country. but they didn't do. that it wasn't a serious enough problem. we spoke about president obama, and the fact he was so unserious in regards to russia. as he crafted his foreign policy over two terms. there is way too much government abuse of power, there is not enough transparency, and as far as the president, i understand his frustration, i agree that this investigation has to end on its own terms. but i think the president should either sit for an interview or wait for a subpoena. if they impeach him, it's such a weird presidency, such an intense time, i don't think it politically damages him. >> melissa: i don't they are. the nailbiter in ohio now an even closer contest with the discovery of hundreds of uncounted votes in the house special election race. hmm. democrats winning only 2 of the 10 special elections since the president took office. but the democratic party chairman sounding pretty upbeat. should he be? we'll debate. >> this gives me optimism, not only about this seat but about other house seats. the u.s. senate, and governor's races. that's your family. which is why you didn't grab just any cheese. you picked up new kraft expertly paired mozzarella and parmesan for pizzahyeah! kraft. family greatly. feeclaritin and relief fromwsy symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity. and live claritin clear. opponent danny o'connor after officials tallied those ballots. excludeing that ohio race, democrats host 8 of the 10 special elections held since president trump took office. tom perez says the tight race in ohio only mapgs him more confident in democrat's chances in the mid terms. >> this gives me optimism, not only about this seat but about other house seats. the u.s. senate, and governor's races. >> kennedy: all right, governor huckabee, nothing should be this tight for democrats f history is the died they should win overwhelmingly in the mid terms. as of now no one knows what is going to happen. >> it's interesting tom perez is singing happy days are here again. he's like the guy that jumped off 1900 story building and at the 84th floor said so far so good. that's what we see out of this guy. [laughing] they won the race he's acting like, but they should be winning. that's the way it historically goes. what are their message? vote for democrats, we'll take your crumbs away, your pay will go down, you won't have a bonus, you might not have a job job, and we'll open the borders and let everybody in. it may just be that they move all over the country. . and double your taxes. >> and we distribute the wealth in the country. >> let's go back to bowing down before foreign governments, capitulate to every foreign entity, instead of making them respect america again. they may not like us across the world, we don't care, we want them to respect us and fear us. that's happened under this administration. >> alyssa milano said the trump white house is involved in this. >> he said the green party votes are a clear indication that the russians have meddled in ohio's 12th congressional district, because the stakes are so high she knows it's the russians. >> the russians send in the 588 bat lots, full ballot boxes they happened to find? i always find it interesting when they find these boxes of ballots in trunks of cars, the back of county building, they always have to get the democrat closer to the republican rather than getting the republican choser to the democrat depending who is behind. >> always seems to be the case. amazing. >> in florida, bill nelson decided that russia had actually infiltrated the electronic voting systems in several florida counties. when asked where did that information come from, how did he know, i mean, it became -- >> that's a serious claim. >> it is very serious. >> it is dangerous. >> could you support the vote by making that claim moving forward. >> he apparently pulled it out of a part of his body that normally is not viewed by the public. that's what happened. >> armpit. [laughing] >> that's what i was thinking. what were you thinking? >> that's why i'm shouting it out. >> harris: back to the point you were making, katie, about the last-minute find of votes. i don't think it's out of the order to do that. but in this instance, franklin county was one of the first places they counted. that's why the democrat was ahead for a bit. i just, you know, we have no way of knowing exactly what happened. i put it out there so we have all of the facts to play with. >> katie: interesting they were adamant about counting frank lynn county first but all of a sudden a few days late where they desperately try to match up the vote count and trigger a recount, they find this box of ballots. >> melissa: it is amaze being didn't learn from the 2016 election that we can't predict what is going on ahead of time. voters are going to surprise you and they aren't going to tell people on the phone or ahead of time or in the exit polls how they voted when they went inside. both sides are more engaged than they've ever been before. it feels like in recent memory. which is a great thing for democracy. it's interesting, you know, i heard anthony scaramucci saying as he goes around the country feels like he would like the president to tweet less, there are people -- >> a lot of people feel that way. >> in his corner but uncomfortable with the tweeting. whether that helps the candidate or not when he's out there stumping for them. >> melissa: i have found people uncomfortable with the tweeting paying less attention to it. >> kennedy: and some engaged and defend the president at every single turn. but a lot of voters, i was in indiana last weekend, a lot of my friends i voted for him, i like him, but sometimes this is too exhausting. >> melissa: definitely true. the problem is, katie, and we have been in those media circles where somebody kwlil -- they'll see the president tweet. >> harris: rather than asking about the news of the day, of say white house press secretary, they drill down on that immediate tweet that might not have anything to do with policy or anything like. that something that the president expresses and has the word witch hunt it in, they want to navel gaze on what will get that. and paymenting the whole room like that. >> kennedy: not saying they're the enemy of the people. a journalist looks at the situation or press release or a tweet and find the news worthy value. >> katie: if the president is tweeting something he said 50 times before it's not news worthy. you're right about people tuning out and saying i'm exhausted with the cycle, it never ends, these two weeks have been the slowest since the president decided to run for office in 2015. people really look at it and say, enough, i want the result, i know that my paycheck is bigger. >> but did he get the results? he said he was five for five. >> it was four for five? >> he had the math a little bit wrong. >> now there's a push to end daca nationwide. that could be drama. it's being made in texas by attorneys there, and the attorney general, he now wants all new applications halted as the case makes its way through the court. how this will play out legally. on the political stage. we have that next. napoleon is duping us! all around louisiana... you're a nincompoop! 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>> it is very expensive. let me be fair, i'm one who believes we ought to do something for these children who came here. i'm out there on the fringe from many republicans who say i don't care, what part of illegal do you not understand. here's what i also understand, these kids didn't break the law, their parents did. you don't give a ticket to the kid in the back seat when dad is speeding. it's not the way it works. i do think there's got to be some allowance. how far, what the attorney general of texas has done is shrewd, force 24g to a higher court, you have one federal judge who said the president has to carry out daca, which the president can this many his nose at that judge, the judge is out of line. taxton says we're not doing it, that creates a conflict of two federal courts. that bumped it up. >> president trump didn't just resend daca for no reason, he said congress this is yours to deal w they aren't dealing with it. texas is taking it to the judicial system to try and get some results. since nobody seems to be getting anywhere. >> and this ruling by fiat is incredibly cruel to the dreamers. as they are called. and it's interesting, yes, it was a split decision sent to the supreme court which at the time there were only eight members. so they basically punted it back to the lower court. congress needs to act. we need figure out immigration policy in this country. so it's not confusing when it gets to the state level. we have to figure out the balance between immigration and entitlements. it is confusing. there is an incredible imbalance right now. and i tend on agree with you. we're punishing a group of people who aren't breaking the law, they are starting businesses, going to college, they are having families. that's exactly what you said, the balance between that and entitlements. we can't have open borders and the liberal social welfare. you can have one or the other. i look at it from an economic point of view, it's like free healthcare where you have to double everyone's taxes in order to pay for it. if you had people coming in, we have to have a system where they are paying taxes, they aren't just coming in and disappearing into the state system where it's the state's burden to carry them. i don't want to send people home or separate families. >> but the bigger question, you have to stop the bleeding at some point. the daca situation we're dealing with is people brought here 20 years ago by their parents and people are still bringing their kids illegally across the border or come to the united states illegally and have children here. it's a separate issue than just dealing with the daca recipients. it's figuring out how do you stop as a magnet so we aren't dealing with another daca in ten years. >> harris: you can't keep the magnet turned on at full force and not secure your borders. >> there's a conflict between the laws, state law says you have to educate children f there's a child in the state you have to put them in school. that's at conflict with saying you can't do something because they're not legal. you put all of these states in a very, very difficult place. same thing, you have an injury, what do you do, tell them at the mng room door we won't let you in, of course you treat them and we should. what melissa was saying is really the point. you either control your border or you don't. if you don't you're going to have this issue and you're going to have to deal with it and suck it up and pay for it. >> harris: you mention congress, i'm thinking back to #schumer shutdown, over this decision of daca, has anything changed since earlier this year with congress and the senator making a strong stand. >> no, nothing. he wasn't serious about it. it wasn't about the kids, never was about the kids, it was about the political point. i wish people would wake up and see. that we need a good civics lesson to understand you can't have a judge making law. that's a legislative process that is not a judicial process. this notion of judicial supremacy is killing this country and creating these problems, we need a president and we need the congress to say to the courts if you want to make law take your robe off, run for congress, make law. but you can't do it from the bench. >> harris: you get last word on that. >> i do? wow. >> harris: yes. democrats struggling in their push to win over latino voters a host of democrat stratgists telling cnn their candidates aren't consolidating hispanic support in key congressional races in california, nevada, arizona, texas, na. this despite president trump's tough rhetoric on issues like daca and immigration. we're going to continue this topic a little bit. but not all democrat strategists in that report see cause for alarm. some point to their own surveys showing democrats leading with his panics. hispanics. that report goes on to say, quote, virtually everyone both sides of this democratic debate agrees on one point, despite all his confrontational rhetoric and policies trump alone appears unlikely to reverse the usual falloff in hispanic turnout. and he may not even widen the typical democratic advantage among them in their vote preferences. all this as we have learned that hispanic unloiment hit another record low last month, under president trump. at 4.5%. let's crunch the numbers on that. >> melissa: this is interesting, to me, echoes the 2016 election where pollsters, or whoever is looking at it, wants to put people mixing in the monolith, all hispanic people are going to vote and feel this way because he's saying these things about immigration. a lot of people who imgreated here legally, who very much support president trump because they're furious they waited in line and did it the right way. they think that immigration is the only issue they care about, as opposed to the unemployment number, as opposed to the economy. >> person of color, that's so true. there can only be one thing that we would care about, that's ridiculous. we have full lives. i do want to say, this you talk about legal immigration and the president now reportedly taking a look at, well, if you ever leaned on public service you could lose your promise of being a citizen. what do you think about that? >> i want to go to melissa's point, if you have anyone and any line who breaks the line everyone resent it. that's something the president should begin to use and make that the focal point. this isn't about keeping people out of the country, it's about making sure that everyone plays by the same set of rules. one thing americans have an inate sense about, a sense of fairness, equality. that's where the focus ought to be, not this person, you know, feels bad and they would like to be here. it's whether or not when a person comes they do it legally. that is being missed in the big point of discussion. >> harris: something in the last 24 hours is giving democrats talking point and a lot of agita to people who came here illegally. >> katie: illegal immigrants and legal immigrants take a lot of welfare. and when, back in the day when my family came over in the early 1900s, they sent one family member out of eight kids, my great grandma from croatia, because they would only afford to send one person, she would have to make on it her own with the money that they sent. she didn't rely on the government to make it happen. a lot of people came to america in early 1900s who came and left again because they couldn't cut it. this idea that this is something new is not new at all. when it comes to the political ramifications of this, you were talking about how hispanics aren't biting on this idea of the identity politics. when you look at the polling hispanics are interested in all of the other issues just like everyone else. family, economy, and their jobs, foreign policy security, national security. it's patronizing to talk to them as if they only care about immigration. . and kamala harrison is wrong when she says we have to talk about identity politics. they are beneficial but president trump and democrats have to be careful, if that's the only message they have got, it's short sighted and offensive to be put into a basket. >> harris: chicago police deploying hundreds of additional officers to the streets following the weekend shootings that we've been reporting on all week. 12 people dead, more than 60 injured in shootings. growing calls for mayor rahm emmanuel to resign over the violence plaguing the city. remember the role he had, chief of staff for president obama, now they want him out. the causes and solutions, stay close. i don't keep track of regrets. delicious boost® high protein nuritional drink now has 33% more protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals boost® high protein. be up for life. ♪ it's so hard to believe ♪ but it's all coming back me. ♪ baby, baby, baby. all you can eat is back, baby. applebee's. there's also a lot to know. the most important thing? 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>> what an irony, rahm emmanuel talks about values. but he's the guy that said that a company like chick-fil-a who values all of its employees had no place in chicago. he wants to blame the weapon not the people behind it. it's not just about jobs. well if people have jobs and they're employed and they're gainfully putting something together for lives, they're less likely to go around shooting each other. my heart breaks for the people of chicago, it's a great city, they're wonderful people with great traditions and legacy. a shame that the leadership of the chicago city, rahm emmanuel, does not wake up and recognize that his lack of leadership, his lack of focusing on criminal control, rather than gun control, is leading and contributing to the problems. >> how can he say they have too many guns on the street when they have the strictest gun laws. you want to say whose fault is that. you've outlawed them. >> harris: you mention the components that will try to help solve this, pastors are in line of that. and i recently interviewed rev. gregory livingston who has put forth all of the marchs to try to get rahm emmanuel out of that seat. i asked him would you consider your ideas coming from some place else other than democrats. he said i want rahm emmanuel out, the people marching with me do, they went down lakeshore drive last week. he said whoever has the better ideas to help us get into the situation where the local jobs mirror the percentage of local jobs nationwide, in other communities. we are seeing record lows in black unemployment. what he's saying is we want to feel that on the ground. when rahm emmanuel says we have other communities where there are no jobs, why does your city look so different from the rest of the united states? >> kennedy: look what happened to chicago during alcohol prohibition. and right now you're dealing with prohibition on two fronts. gun prohibition and drug prohibition. and when those things combined, it's a perfect storm that is disastrous for communities especially the victims who are wounded and killed. you had an 11-year-old and 13-year-old killed. because people are injim nantly firing into proudz. it shouldn't get to the -- into the crowds. it shouldn't get to the point where you have 400 extra officers on the street, before we ask ourselves structurally why is this happening. >> kennedy: and the part that nobody is talking about is the border control component coming from mexico. there was one of the senior sinaloa cartel members, chicago is run and fueled by the mexican drug cartels, getting in bed with the gang members shooting and killing each other in the street. >> the prosecutors, they're prosecuting the criminals and the judges aren't putting them in jail. >> melissa: more in a moment. no matter who rides point, there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? 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