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"outnumbered" starts right now. >> let's begin with a fox news alert, the stakes are high today as voters are headed to the polls for primaries in several states. ohio's special election is getting some special attention. the house race for a seat the gop has held for decades is viewed as a big test for president trump's kingmaking abilities. or queenmaking. and may give us a preview of how the mid-term elections will shape up. you're watching "outnumbered" on a tuesday. i'm harris faulkner, melissa francis, senior fellow for the independent women's voice, syndicated radio talk show host and fox news contributor and opinionist, leslie markel. joining us, "fox & friends" weekend co-host pete hegseth with a military salute here on "outnumbered". >> i like the matching socks and tie. >> did you catch that? shoelaces, too, coordinates with the socks -- >> it's a little too much. >> i like it. >> perfect for a summer tuesday. >> i like how you color coordinated his tie with my dress. >> i like the color wheel. >> he did on it his own. >> polls showing a dead heat in the e special election in columbus, ohio area. republicans have been pouring in resources and democrats pushing hard for the upset. the two candidates, danny o'connor, republican toy balderson, casting their balance, president trump entorsing balderson, the president tweeted ohio vote for troy balderson for congress. his opponent controlled by nancy pelosi, weak on crime, the worder, military, your second amendment and will end your tax cuts. troy will be a great congressman. president trump with a pretty good record on his endorsements of republican candidates. 20-1 to be exact. and while the president looms large over the ohio race, the special election is raising things for both parties headed into november. >> you do have a nay sayer that's pro touch, but you need moderate republicans, you need lot of moderate women to also, who have been leaning republican to break your way. why the district is so tight. it's a point for republican district, shouldn't be close. >> but it is closer than it should be based on the polling that we've seen. but also remember, polling in a special election in a place like this, is notoriously difficult to predict. but, what we are looking at here, is sort of a referendum on donald trump and nancy pelosi, none si pelosi is a big issue in the district. >> let's talk about what charlie and his new summertime haircut is talking about here. >> right, right. >> a good haircut. >> it is. >> he's talking about polling, but three decades of leadership by republicans, right? in that seat. it's even more complicated than just the polling. what is happening that republicans are this much on the precipice of losing a seat? >> you have a lot of energy on the democratic side, no doubt. the resist movement is real, democrats hate president trump, make no mistake about it, his name is on the ballot. all the way through november. whether that candidate wants interest or not. you have a democrat running as moderate, i went and looked at his website again, like connor lamb in pennsylvania. a few buzz words that speak to the democratic base. but he's not going to vote for nancy pelosi for speaker, he's saying i'm going to work with all sides, looking like moderate, most democrats are nowhere near moderate, and who will energize the base enough. that's why trump was there in a key county. >> if you have to look like a moderate how do you win like a socialist, this might be one place but that isn't going to win all over the country. >> like it's been said and i've said, brooklyn, new york is not brooklyn, iowa. we have a party just like republicans have a party, where there are different factions to the party. the democratic party is very left or socialist. then the more moderate democrats like me and others and we are, but also in the race, what we're seeing is patterns. if you look at pennsylvania's 18th and georgia's sixth, the democrats put forth a nonpolitician, a 30-something year old -- >> whoa, whoa, but he had political moves, he tacked right on issues like abortion. he may be quote unquote a nonpolitician on paper, but -- but it's a politically calculated move. >> obviously, you want to win. when you have a republican putting out another 50-plus white guy with lacking a political background. >> but, leslie and pete's point, you have similarities with connor lamb, a younger 38-something versus an older person in stated and local politics for a longer period of time. we'll see how it plays out in the district, more largely speaking for a republican, any house member should be deeply concerned and running this or 10 points behind. special elections are special for a reason, you don't want to glean too much. what you can take away is consistently democrats have outperformed in the special elections. if you're a republican, even if you're running in a red congressional district, you shurd be concerned and you should take your election very, very seriously. >> should you be calling the president, can you tweet, can you come in? >> well, look at delaware -- >> if i record of 20-1 on anything, i might have been an athlete. >> delaware county's night, where president trump showed up where they need republicans to turn out, look there and see what happens in delaware county. >> talk to me about this resist movement. those numbers are hard -- the intensity on the left side is not to be missed. but the president his mojo is very strong here at 20-1. >> it's interest that normally in the mid-term election you have kind of a lack of enthusiasm because the president has been elected, they haven't done what they said they're going to do. on the other side a regrouping and everyone is disenfranchised and disenchanted. trump has been even more trumpy than he ever promised to be. anyone who thought he was going to, you know, soften around the edges has been completely wrong. those who love him are out in force and are more fired up than ever. and that's, you know, a huge support for those that he goes out and endorses. those who hate him are more fired up than ever before and can't believe how this has turned out even worse than they thought. this is a bizarre mid-term in that everyone is more fired up than they're usually in my opinion. >> so, pete, when you and i and many of us on the couch are out talking with voters, how can you tell who has the most intensity? is it because what melissa laid out are great points. who goes to the polls? >> that matters the most, mid-term elections are base turnout elections for the most part, not like presidential elections. >> who has the bigger base. >> exactly. >> in this district republicans, more than 14%. >> fair enough. the clip we played, moderate, what about moderate republicans? moderate republicans have come to trump. if you're a never-trumper, you aren't going to like trump. i go to the county republican events, different conservative events, folks reluctant, see what he's done, and they've moved in his direction. even if they don't love the bomb past. the republicans are there, the democrats are a resist and it's going to be a turnout. >> something i've heard you say, lisa, that's playing a role in all of this, people, as melissa pointed out, trying to get the president to be different, go this way or that way. you have said people just want some one who's genuine. >> that's one of the main reasons, even with his donations to democrats, going out there, i thought i could buy them. people appreciated that authenticity, where you had some one completely inauthentic. i worked in a couple of campaigns, i don't think we know if this is going to be a wave, but i remember melissa bean in illinois, we had no idea that joe walsh was going to win that seat when i was working at the nrcc. we don't know how it's going to play out. we'll know more after labor day and where things are swinging. republicans should be concerned. even just historically, one republican had both sides in congress and the white house. >> if i can say, president trump, we're in communications, so great at marketing. A news show featuring the top headlines of the day from pop culture to politics, which are discussed by a rotating panel of four women and one man. many businesses around the world didn't want to risk losing business in the united states in order to continue to do business with iran. the implications are already pretty profound. they'll grow more profound in november when the oil related sanctions kick in as well. >> how is nancy pelosi, saying in a statement, far from making us more safe the president's latest ill informed attempt to dismantle the successful joint comprehensive plan of action makes america and her allies less secure. this counter productive action only diminishes america's international credibility. erodes our relationship with our nato and eu allies and sets back the path to a more stable region and peaceful nonnuclear future. reimposing the sanctions may be having the intended effect. iran's president saying his country is open to negotiations with the u.s. if there is, quote, sincerity. pete, i'll ask you first, if you say, you can do business with us or do business with them. europe wanted to do business with iran as a large untapped market, young people, going to buy iphones, drink coca-cola, be derock ratized. if look at it, there is rioting in the streets f you ask anyone in the eu, you want to do business with us or them, it's all about the fact there isn't a lot of business to do in iran. >> economic power still matters. and these leaders in the eu may say, we don't like this, we want to keep the deal, we think it could have worked. trunk ran on scrapping it, he scrapped it. indications are showing that america will side with america, they understand for their own economic benefit. makes more sense to go along passively, even if the rhetoric says america shouldn't have done this. they say they don't want regime change, they want the conversation. iran. many more males than females, extremely high unemployment, very youthful population. when you have so many young men who are then angry financially, we're pro pressing the people not the leaders, they're living fine. if you notice what happens, the way iran does, unlike in our country, thankfully, what do they do? they arrest the violent people, people disappear, they torture people. >> then what is the solution. we need to help them rise up. >> a deal that's not going to happen. >> hillary clinton chose not to pay attention to that rise. it made it complicated. almost tacitly said to the government, so repacious in terms of how it treats its citizens, lock 'em up and kim kill 'em. we had an opportunity on get in there. you know, you're a veteran, a military -- >> we had the opportunity and did nothing. >> to do it with peace, but we sat on our hands while they were how do we know? we've never verified it, never inspected, there was never any inspections to have an inspection you had to have already evidence that there was something going on. how would you have that evidence if you ro not allowed a pathway in. >> you wouldn't. >> they got to collect the samples. it was a complete joke from start to finish, where am i wrong there. >> you aren't wrong at all, it was a pathway to a deal that enriched that regime. look at the gdp of iran, it spiked after that deal significantly, they used the money they had, used the viability they got in advance. that brings them to a weaker position. debate with them when they're weak. >> i want to ask you about what the word sincere means and whether president obama could tell us. maybe that was in a side deal. >> president trump's legal team prepping a response letter to special counsel robert mueller over a possible interview with the president, what they are asking for and whether mueller will agree. another big day in the paul manafort fraud trial after bombshell testimony from his former business partner, rick gates, what he's saying today and how a possible conviction could affect the president. we'll discuss that ahead. alright, i brought in new max protein >> special counsel robert mueller's star with it, rick fates, is back on the stand today in the -- rick gapts in the fraud trial of paul manafort. gates calmly described how he and manafort committed crimes together, concealing accounts from the irs and falsifying bank documents. he confused to embuzz ling hundreds of thousands of dollars from manafort filing false expense reports. gates is expected to face cross-examination by paul manafort's defense attorneys keen on damaging his credibility. all of this having, right now, so far, nothing to do with the president. paul manafort, a lot of information, by rick gates. >> the paul manafort avoidance trial, paid for my taxpayers, nothing to do with russian collusion. most people you go around that don't live in the media bubbles could absolutely care less. all about rolling manafort, all about rolling manafort to get to the president. >> i'll take the other side of that. >> just a second, this ukrainian president, who is out and facing his own problems, was known to have aided some pro russian people within his government to allow attacks on his own people, technically. >> super corrupt. >> horible that. 's where a lot of this money was from, for manafort. the minute he was out of power, manafort's finances started to dry up. does any of that matters? . we're learning how consultant the corrupt group is in washington, d.c. the money drys up domestically, they go to other regimes that will pay tons of money for a little bit of influence. it is the way d.c. elites, on the left and the right, what about tony podesta, he did it as well, same deal. >> you see how the case i laying out as you said, though he made an absolute fortune overseas from people connected to the russians he tried not to pay tax on it, the money dried up. that's laid out. it's clear, seems like, it's hard to dispute that. what we are missing and what we need next is the link. was there some one who then tried to use him, because he's under financial distress, to infiltrate the trump campaign, on the part have the russians? there's no evidence so far, no one has even said that. but that's where this would matter. that's the link that we need and we haven't seen it. >> without the link you can still accomplish what she's talking about, though. you can pressure manafort and pressure those people who are under the microscope -- >> but they have to lie and say there were people -- >> they haven't done that already? there's plenty -- >> right. >> when president trump, or then-candidate trump hired manafort, manafort has extensive experience working with george w. bush, ronald reagan, one of the last ones that helped before, at the contested convention. thought at the time there might be a contested convention for republican, which was in part the reason why president trump irrelevant hired him. he fired him once the ties to ukraine came out about paul manafort. you could argue, everyone knew he was a bad dude, he shouldn't have hired him. but you also look at it from a purely political standpoint, there was reason to bring him on, on the team. but, look, manafort is a bad dude, we know that now, but none of this has to do with president trump. unless there's a lirng. >> that's what we need to see. >> do we know enough about, i think we don't, how hard the fbi might have tried to let the trump campaign know they were looking at paul manafort for years and years and years? i mean, it's not like the authorities didn't already have this on the landscape, right? the authorities. it would come from them. >> well, we know that the president was briefed, before he became president, after the election. >> after the election. >> pete, i want to say something to your point. won't bring up collusion and concentrate on this. this isn't manafort's only go, though, in court. >> right. mueller might be doing the right thing following illegality but he's not doing his job. we didn't send him -- this could have been done by the justice department without a special counsel. all of it. all of the indictments. >> you don't know where the facts go. >> two years later we don't have -- >> his playbook -- >> it's on the front page of the "new york times" f they had anything it would be a-1 for two weeks. >> you're basically all saying the same thing if you look at it. we see the connection between a and b&b and c. now we need to see that last binge. between a and c? >> no, between the criminal behavior that happened with regard to this tax evasion and the connection to russia. then how something in there caused the pressure pressure to get influenced in the campaign. >> if there's such a thing. >> we haven't seen that evidence yet, if it exists we'd love to see it. >> back, again, your -- >> preferably before noon. 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>> i think it could help them, but -- >> what was the delay? >> i don't know. but the concern for party leadership, the establishment, whatever, they're looking at this kansas race, the concern is that it may be competitive f you look at the governor's races across the country there are 36, republicans defending, i think, 26 of those races. republicans are on the defense when it comes to the cubetorial races. there's a concern and lack of desire to have to spend additional resources on a race that maybe wouldn't be as xitive as these other ones. >> the same concerns from before, don't back marco rubio, don't back ted cruz, that the grassroots want. establishment republicans months ago, told the president don't endorse this guy. chris kobach was early shu porter of the president, the president says screw you guys, i'm going with my guy. he'll probably win. trump won kansas by 21 points on election night in 2016. if chris kobach cannot win this race then he's a terrible candidate. go with the moderate, go with the moderate. no, stop it. >> there was frustration when the president didn't get out there and didn't go and support and didn't spend their time working hard for these other candidates given how much they had on their plate. does it surprise that the president is putting so much into it? >> no. i was looking at the numbers, he's hearing from his party, he knows historically, this isn't your typical presidency. this is different. there is the possibility of a lot of seats and maybe one or both chambers being flipped he's out there. i have to tell you, don't faint, i want kobach to win, i want the president to have him win. he's controversial, makes it easier for the democrats in the general, there's three alleged white supremacists, what was up with the voter fraud commission that seemed to be fraudulent itself. i want him to win, i think it would be easier for the democrat in a red district. >> there is a loyalty aspect, kobach was an early supporter of president trump. i think president trump has demonstrated he's loyal to many of those people that were with him. >> he's remaking this party in his image, he's been behind it, and i don't buy it. e feel like when republican grassroots are energized they come out and vote. this is a moderate governor, doesn't get the base out the way you need. >> alabama, roy moore. >> that's a whole other thing. >> no, no, no. >> the voter fraud controversy is something that has come up. >> that was generally gunked up by the legal challenge. >> what do you think voters make of all of that. they see the president's support and -- >> they see kobach, given a tough job to get at the swamp, and really corrupt voter laws regarding that show i.d. to vote and they don't purge voter laws for dead people, they say i want that guy but he was resisted by the establishment. >> we're awaiting a letter from the president's trel team on conditions for a possible silt down interview. what trump's team wants offlimits and what it could mean for the russia probe. sometimes, bipolar i disorder can make you feel unstoppable. ♪ but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by talking to your doctor. ask about vraylar. vraylar is approved for the acute treatment of manic or mixed episodes of bipolar i disorder in adults. clinical studies showed that vraylar reduced overall manic symptoms. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction, or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol and weight gain; high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death; decreased white blood cells, which can be fatal; dizziness upon standing; falls; seizures; impaired judgment; heat sensitivity; and trouble swallowing may occur. you're more than just your bipolar i. ask about vraylar. ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. oh! no increased risk? 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>> yes. i do. and i think it will be a combination of oral questioning and written questioning. >> tom is such a supreme legal mind, let's talk politics, we'll leave the legalities to him. >> thank you. >> this is great for the president. this back and forth reinforces his desire to sit down. but what he said before, you know, let the legal minds work it out then i'll do what they tell me. the desire is there. this proves it. they are really having a strong, real conversation, go back and forth. he said he wants, to he clearly does, he can exor rate himself better than anybody else. every lawyer says don't do it. >> but this is about politics. >> this is about politics, you answer a few questions about collusion, never happened, let the rest be written down and it's done. >> i totally disagree. i think the strong real conversation back and forth is total b.s. >> you think he won't do it or will. i think it's all for show, it's for the media. i don't think they will have a conversation. >> it is about politics, but i don't believe it's a real sincere conversation about whether or not they're really sitting down. i think it's out there to look like there's a negotiation on the trump side. >> the president wants, to and his team doesn't think he should. >> i don't know if i believe that. >> i think the president wants to, like many people think when they sit down, with a counsel, a prosecutor, they think that they can outsmart them or they can convince them or they can show how they're wrong. >> or he can keep his promise. >> or they're innocent and want to prove that. >> i'm not saying whether he's innocent or guilty, if i were advising him, if i were guiliani, i would not let him have this one-on-one. >> i don't think guiliani thinks it's a good idea. >> think he will open up a can of worms that aren't there for him, perhaps. >> you also look at something like michael flynn, who told congressional investigators that the fbi acts didn't think who he lied, as soon as mueller takes over he pleads to one count of perjury. there's concern that maybe they try to find something, period, as judge ellis said in the manafort case that mueller is gunning for impreechlt or prosecution. there seems to be a focus on the obstruction of justice aspect of this, i think that's really the only level of vulnerability. marco rubio said on fox news on sunday, on sunday, makes sense that, basically if there's any evidence of collusion it would have surfaced by now. there's reports recently that mueller was potentially looking at the tweets, which seems they're grasping at straws to find something. >> moving on the house that play as role. we're inundated with how the ball is moving on social media. we don't know what he has. >> i think it seems like -- >> i can't think of anything i've done and i don't want to sit down with the special prosecutor. that's all i can say. >> you and i rarely agree. >> and, you know, the president's base, different from what we would do, we wouldn't take a poll to see if we'll set down, but his base respects the fact he offered to do it. he doesn't have to. the point i was making is he winning the battle just by having a discussion. melissa doesn't think it's earnest. >> i'm also, i'm so bored by this. enough already. if we knew it, it would be there. >> all right. >> they're trying to discredit him. trying to do it from the beginning. >> hollywood hitting at president trump on both coasts. first the move to remove his star from the hollywood back of fake, the actions the city is taking. rosie o'donnell leads a demonstration outside the people's house. that's our house, y'all. whether these protests are changing minds or helping the president. we'll debate it. >> let the president know in no uncertain terms we are alive, awake, and we are woke. ♪ brand new day i'm ray and i quit smoking with chantix. i tried to quit smoking for years on my own. i couldn't do it. i needed help. for me, chantix worked. it did. chantix, along with support, helps you quit smoking. chantix, without a doubt, reduced my urge to smoke. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. tell your healthcare provider if you've had depression or other mental health problems. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. the most common side effect is nausea. i don't think about cigarettes anymore. talk to your doctor about chantix. ...to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. i'll take that. 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>> harris: a lot going on. thank you, melissa. president trump is an impressive 20-1 in statewide endorsements. but his biggest challenge, his biggest gamble some say, may come in two of today five races. the president as kingmaker and what it could mean for the mid-term elections of the president's legal team is preparing a response to special counsel robert mueller on the sitdown interview. who better to join me than judge andrew napolitano. could mueller issue a subpoena to the president after all of the dealmaking? more on j.t. outnumbered overtime" see you then. >> sounds like a good show. hollywood is not letting up in its ongoing attacks on president trump. the city council voting unanimously to ask the president's walk of fame star, which has been the target of repeated vandalism, to be removed. the vote is largely symbolic but the city's mayor says the president isn't deserving of the honor, saying the west hollywood city council did not pass the resolution because donald trump is a conservative or a republican, earning a star on the hollywood walk of fame is an honor. when one ee littles and attacks minorities, muslims, people of disabilities or women the honor no longer exists. long-time trump nemesis rosie o'donnell leading a group of performsers in a musical protest last night. cast members from hamilton, wicked, and les mis singing show tune favorites as part of the ongoing anti-trump demonstration, now in its 23rd day. take a listen. ♪ who will be strong and stand with me ♪ >> rosie took this jab at the president. >> we're going to keep coming back until he's out. let the president know, in no uncertain terms, we are alive, awake, and we are woke. we are not going away. good silent people are the wind behind evil. >> i think it's safe to say rosie o'donnell and donald trump have a history. but you told me that your response to this would surprise me. surprise me. >> all right, are you listening? rosie, my fellow democrat, we are woke. we march. we protest. we sing. and i'm not going to do it today but i kid did consider it. you have to vote f you don't vote it doesn't matter. historically democrats don't show up in the mid terms. they want trump to be a one-term president, they want to vote them out, #votethemout. as great as we are at marching and protesting we aren't as great voting. we saw it happen in the general election. 2016, hundreds of thousands of people in the country marched the day after the election. my man on the street of my radio show went out there and interviewed, who did you vote for. well, i didn't vote, i stayed home. i thought hillary had it in the bag. you can't do that. you have to get out and vote. >> i'm moderately surprised. lovely and entertaining but not effective. >> you know a thing or two about this world, isn't it now, look, the most unoriginal idea in hollywood is to hate president trump. what do you make of this? >> true. i thought the sipping was lovely, their voices were amazing. and i thought that it was very rich to me when they talked about disrespecting women and bee thing women. bill cosby and harvey weinstein have stars. and i'm wondering if they want to remove those as well. they said no. i don't know. there you go. >> always the good points. >> this backfired, we've seen the rnc put together an ad using maxine watters statement, calling for harassment of trump officials mark done a saying she wanted to blow up the white house, cassie griffin holding up the severed head. does this backfire and can republicans use it against democrats? >> i don't know if it backfires, it doesn't work, they try the celebrity motivation, it's not effective. and it boomerangs a little bit. republicans say are those your beliefs, are you going to let them ram them down your throat, does west hollywood represent you, manhattan represent you? no, get out and make sure your voice is heard. you talk about the democrats, not great at scheduling. the president wasn't in the white house while they held their sing-along. doubly not that effective. >> check the schedule. >> maybe. this is ongoing, i get it. >> he was watching it, though. you know that. he tweeted about it. >> like you're a great singer, but just sing. like sports. >> no, no. >> there's been so many protest and everyone in hollywood hates president trump. almost like yawn, bore me, you aren't that woke. be more interesting more outnumbered in a moment.