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Former fbi director james comeys memos. The president tweeted this. James comey memos just out and show clearly that there was no collusion and no obstruction. Also, he leaked classified information. Will the witch hunt continue . The three House Republicans i push for the memo said in the statement rather than making a criminal case for it obstruction or interference with an ongoing investigation, these memos would be defense exhibit a suggestions charge be made. German goodlatte, and nunez so he never told james comey to shut down the russian investigation. The public and congressmen who sits on the house judiciary and Oversight Committee reacted this way. Because as many pages read as a draft of the book. And they are not really a memo as much as they are a very wellwritten draft for his upcoming book. And i think the fact that he didnt like or trust the president from day one gave him very little credit even when some good things happen in that meeting was because he went in with a prejudice and he went out with a draft of a book. Harris democrats say the memo show the need for legislation to protect special counsel Robert Muellers job. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says they only show President Trumps contempt for the rule of law. These memos are like a rorschach. Everybody sees what they want to see. Ari ill tell you what i saw. The most important thing is you have the president of the United States has been told by james, you are not under investigation and the president of the United States says if any of my satellites are come i want you to investigate this. So i fail to see where there is any obstruction of justice or collusion involved here. I dont think that memos themselves make that plane, but i fail to see it. I think if we knew there was collusion, there was evidence, it wouldve leaked months if not a year or two years ago. Thats my take away, wheres the obstruction, wheres the collusion . I dont see it. Harris the president saying this basically clears him. What you think of that . Tomi thats why im wondering what nancy pelosi is reading. I question her sanity on a daily basis but even more so today im wondering. The democrats are saying this is reason to shield Robert Mueller even further. From what . This president has made clear he is not firing Robert Mueller for the time being. What are they reading . They want to be mad about something. At the end of the day, i think this was great for the president. Harris s of the attorney counsel for the president says he hasnt said that he will fire mueller or rosenstein and the drumbeat goes on that they wont. Your thoughts . Marie i dont think the memos impact that conversation one way or another. There were a few interesting things that came out in those memos. One is that james comey confirmed for the president that parts of the dossier had been corroborated by other intelligence reporting. Not the most salacious details which the president repeatedly asked comey about the parts of the dossier were in fact confirmed by other intelligence sources. I think thats an interesting part of the conversation we had. I agree that in one conversation, the president set of my satellites had done anything wrong, i want to know and another conversation would be just cant you just find your way to let this go . Im not saying thats evidence of criminal obstruction of justice, but it does seem like donald trump wants a criminal investigation to go away at least from that conversation. Sandra it does seem like he feel some sort of indication. As far as james comey is concerned because we have not heard and seen the last of him. To put it politely. Of course, tune in, will be speaking with him as well. I just wonder what this means for him going forward. Ari i dont think it changes anything. I think it just helps james comey because its written corroboration of the things hes been saying. Theres really nothing new. There are three things that were in it that we havent heard before. When was a president speaking is a level of Michael Flynn think he questions his strategic wisdom. To go as we learn that james comey thought Loretta Lynch was not as smart as the previous attorney general eric holder. And then three, we learn that president actually loves the white house, its a luxurious and not a down for so many in the press thought. Only three new things in the whole thing. These are becoming what i will say, this is backfired. Ive never seen it go so wrong. The reason is because no longer to her about the book, its a tour about current events. Comey cant answer to those of you looks bad. Harris is a tour about the words that he spoke on the hill versus the words that were in these memos. If we had a point because i was watching him last night, he was on another network with Rachel Maddow and he was asked about these memos and the substance in them and he said that he couldnt really actually remember all that much of the memos. What we do know from his own root words and reporting is that some of that material in his book or at least the basis for it are we approaching a point where we can even believe what james comey said in those memos . Its not like they were taken extemporaneously. They were after the fact, after talking with him. Ari they were very quickly after the fact that he did document them and put them down and i think that has certain value. To look at it from the other side, the nondonald trump side, the one vulnerability i see for the president as the president has denied that he asked comey for his loyalty and comey did write it down and he has said i it. It is not a crime to have done that, but the president said i didnt do it, comey says he did, and he wrote it down. I do think its taken out of context, i think there is a softer reason why he may have said that, more about leaks than loyalty. Harris thats what i want to ask you about because where we are right now is a man who under his watch Andrew Mccabe doug deputy at the fbi is worried about having this week in my. Then you have james comey giving step to a friend and it lead to the media. At so much a part of the story. Tomi can you imagine being this president who was elected to do things for the American People, american first, advances agenda that he was elected to do and hes been living under this cloud for this long with no evidence of collusion, so asking for loyalty to me, how i interpret that and yes im a trump supporter but can we stop the leaks, let me get back to my job instead of leaking and everyone trying to have a press circus can we do those things that i was elected to do is it a living under this cloud which he still is. He is frustrated like i told you yesterday, the American People are frustrated. Were not going to have a conviction, not going to have hard evidence. How much longer is is going to go on, how much longer does is present and have to live under this cloud and not be able to put his will energy into his agenda was elected to perform. Marie Congress Week to the comey memos 10 minutes after they got them. Harris congress has a problem with the leaks two. Sandra theres been so much discussion about the memos. Marie they were still leaks. To sandra meantime, we now know Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein told President Trump that he is not a target in the Michael Cohen investigation. Trump had already told he wasnt a target in the Mueller Probe, though he could become a target at any time. Meantime, the president s personal legal team has a new member. A former new york city mayor Rudy Giuliani was also a former prosecutor. Former independent counsel and former general ken starr weighing in on the significance of that. Speak with the president has hired a brilliant lawyer. Everybody knows that americas mayor is a lawyer, but ill tell you this based on my personal experience with Rudy Giuliani. It is probably no better lawyer in the United States to handle this kind of very high profile situation. Sandra speaking of lawyers, more of them may be finding new work after the dnc just a short time ago filed a multimillion dollar lawsuit alleging a farreaching conspiracy to disrupt the 2016 president ial campaign and help donald trump win. The defendants list is long and some might say includes everyone and everything but the kitchen sink. Including the russian government and the Trump Campaign, wikileaks, paul manafort, jared kushner, george papadopoulos, and Richard Goetz among others. So now the same organization that helped fund the salacious unsubstantiated trump dossier has some new targets. I confused new work with new york because its the new york city mayor. The first of all, the change to this president s legal team, Rudy Giuliani, how does that change things . Ari what he said is hes coming here hopefully to negotiate the end of this thing. I dont think hes here to be a lawyer. And i hope this gets done and over with. Of the criminality of our differences is tearing america apart. We got to elevate above this. I think bob mueller is conscious of that. Sandra you have been a strong advocate of his throughout all this. You have been very defensive of the attacks on him. Ari i have because i served with him. September 10th, september 11th took place in my work shoulder to shoulder. I know his integrity and i believe in him. I do believe necessarily he is staffed up properly. But let mueller do you want to conclude there was no collusion. Harris you think the president is going to . Because i dont think theres any evidence of collusion involving the president. They had nothing to do with the Trump Campaign. Doing taxes prior to every meeting donald trump or the case of Michael Cohen, certainly looks like business transactions again, nothing to do with the campaign. Marie the flynn ones are much closer to the campaign and much closer to russia. He lied about things involving russia and the campaign left a little problematic for the president i think. Or for Michael Flynn. Harris one thing the president obviously has its uses the midterm elections are creeping closer so he doesnt want to become a major distraction and if you were to fire him at this point, it becomes a distraction right about the point where people are gearing up for the midterm. Just looking at the calendar. Ari if he knows he didnt do anything wrong, why fire him . Is a need to theres no purpose. Sandra because he is trying to do a job and that is what his staff said when the white house speaks on his behalf and you know that the job very well. This president has a huge job to do. He was elected to do and is is a huge distraction. Ari at 100 agree with that and understand the frustration with it but the best ways to get it over and let mueller declare no collusion. Tomi heres my question and the assets yesterday, as an average american, i have not worked in a demonstration and i understand that but i speak for a lot of americans that are fed up and frustrated with this and we feel, many of us feel that this is being extended through the midterms for a political purpose to have a cloud hanging over this president to cast out to the American People are still wondering as our president a quick, did he do something wrong to map the more we see comey going on every single network, the more we hear about this day in and day out, the average american hears it. Harris do you advocate firing mueller . Tomi i dont. But i believe there is space for him to do so. As part of the plan. I think if this is going to keep extending through the midterm to hurt this president. Sandra going back to this development that rosenstein told trump that you are not a target in the investigation. Marie at this time is the key phrase there. We have heard people like trey gowdy and others say that should not give the president total comfort because you can go from a subject to a target overnight. If but i think Rod Rosenstein is doing good job at managing, he is trying by telling him that and is probably true as of today. This investigation is serious, it is ongoing. I think sba does want to wrap it up as soon as possible. I think you love to wrap it up before the midterms if he could, it just so complicated and are so many different pieces. Ari would let me add one thing about the dnc lawsuit. Marie i thought thats where you are going. Ari dont take this wrong, i hope theyre successful in one regard. If russia hacked them, i hope they go after russia. If russia did any attack on any party in america, its attack on that all parties in american i hope theyre successful in bringing to light what russia did. And if you can hold russia accountable, do it. Tomi if you were hacked and he went to get to the bottom of it, what have they not turned over the servers . Harris thats what makes it smell like its potentially difficult because otherwise you would just give everything you have in the name of transparency to see if actually care. Marie not necessarily. The Intelligence Community has concluded that they did hacked both the dnc and private emails of people like john podesta. These are nonpartisan career officials who have determined that. It will be interesting in the civil suit, theyre leaving it up to the court to determine damp damages but ari is right, e should be concerned about the russians interfering with Political Parties but in marco rubio has at this very strongly. Next time, it wont be them, itll be us. I have no idea why they did or didnt turn over servers. I think is a very small point in the larger point. Ari why did the fbi take them . Marie maybe thatll be part of discovery, i have no idea. But i think the larger point is whether it was good reason for proprietary information, i have no idea. The bigger point is russia hacked into them and thats the problem. Sandra announcement of the lawsuit, they detail the dnc russia found a willing partner in the Trump Campaign which shared their goal of hurting the Democratic Party and electing donald trump. Ari theres no evidence of that. Thats the fundamental political point let me elevate all of this. This country has got to stop accusing its opponents of being criminals. I defended barack obama when donald trump said he was a legitimate and born in kenya. I dont like saying the people you oppose an ideology or illegitimate. In the democrats are doing it to donald trump. The country has got to stop this criminalization of differences its killing us all. Sandra cannot stop though . Where does it end . Ari be people because youre better politics and the democrats and got to accept that donald trump was elected. Trump should try to win but is not about criminality and thats the fundamental point. Harris is like when someone that youre arguing with just starts to talk all kinds of curse words. It lowers the grade of the argument. It really is intellectually. Tomi he still calling for his opponents. Donald trump out to the top, set the tone for this country. Sandra somehow, marie got last word in there. Happy friday. Meanwhile, federal prosecutor now determining whether fired fbi director Andrew Mccabe should be charged for misleading internal investigators on multiple occasions including under oath. They said theyre confident it wont come for that. Plus one democratic senator jumping on board to support President Trump secretary mike pompeo whether others will follow suit and could they pay the price of the midterm if they do not . s big thumbs down to mike pompeo is a middle finger to the American People who voted for donald trump and they expected people in his team that he can work with. 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The department of justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz is now asking washingtons top federal prosecutor to determine whether to charge fired fbi director Deputy Director Andrew Mccabe with a crime. Mccabe allegedly misled internal investigators on four occasions including when he was under oath about his role in leaking information to the media regarding an investigation to hillary clinton. Mccabes team responded this way. If we were advised of the referral within the past few weeks. Although we believe the referral is unjustified, it is very low. Weve already met with Staff Members from the u. S. Attorneys office. We are confident that unless there is an appropriate pressure from high levels of the administration, the u. S. Attorneys office will conclude that it should decline to prosecute. Thats an interesting pushback. Ari i hate this. I hate this because i take no joy out of some

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