Jon the congressional Baseball Game will go on. See you back here in an hour. Outnumbered starts now. Sandra new details pourit yesterdays shooting. This is the number steves glaze remains in Critical Condition and will require more surgery. Three others were shot and remain injured. This is outnumbered, and sandra smith. Your today, kennedy, also from the intelligence report, trish regan, Jessica Tarlov is here, and todays oneluckyguy, brian kilmeade. He is outnumbered. We thought you didnt have enough to do today. Jumped in and jumped into the arms of the congressman. Meanwhile, Family Members of matt micah who is the head of Government Relations for tyson foods say that he was shot multiple times. He remains in Intensive Care and Critical Condition at George Washington university hospital. We know the entire speech anyone family as well as his aides will be at tonights Baseball Game. It will be an incredibly Emotional Experience for all. Sandra thank you. Meanwhile, were learning more about the shooter and his violent past. James hodgkinsons arrest record includes a history of domestic violence. The 66yearold Home Inspector was also a Bernie Sanders supporter who raged against republicans and President Trump on his facebook page. In one post back in march, Hodgkinson Writing Quote Trump has destroyed our democracy, its time to destroy trump and company. Catherine herridge is live with brandnew details. Thank you. We are hearing from the suspect for the first time in his own words with his 2011 interview at an occupy protest in st. Louis shot by fox affiliate. 99 are getting pushed around in the 1 are not giving a [bleep] the suspect bearing the name james hodgkinson. An illinois newspaper reports of the suspect sent letters to the editor a year after that rally and he railed against republicans and tax policies writing i have never said life stocks, only through policies of republicans. A shotgun and a rifle were recovered. There was an incident in illinois last month and only stopped after the police were called in. I yelled at him, i said hey, Stop Shooting over there. Theres houses over there. Unleashing our country is antisemitism or race talk. The president should also be the healer in chief. And so this president has chosen to divide and name call and that doesnt serve his country. It probably doesnt even serve tenants interests. Sandra meantime, Chris Collins pointed his finger at democrats and their anger toward the g. O. P. This morning, the new York Lawmaker walking back his remarks saying both sides, including himself need to tone it down. Watch. Im willing to admit that was wrong for me to say. That was going in the wrong direction and i, myself and going to try to tone down some of my rhetoric and i would invite my Democrat Friends to do likewise and i think all of us have now had a chance to reflect, look in the mirror and say, its on all of us and it is a 24 7 news cycle and elections
in this country. At the right to elect our leaders. We have the right to disagree with policies. But we have to stop the rhetoric that weve seen. These are the things that have to stop. This is a result of political rhetorical terrorism. That has to stop. Whats happened in our country over the last several years and even more so last year is the level of vitriol and harsh rhetoric that has escalated to a point but ive never seen in my life. The thought that anyone would take someone elses life or try to is just wrong. And to target a member of congress particularly in this Baseball Practice situation is terrible. Sandra that left congressman, ron barber of arizona served as an aide to Gabby Giffords and was with her when she was severely injured in a Shooting Back in 2011. He was also hurt in that attack. For the most part, the word is
unity, a lot of lawmakers discussing that today. As they come together moment . Brian i think its possible and heres why. I know weve had horrific shootings with more casualties, but never this close, never directly targeted at a party. You can say, i wonder what he was up to when he shot him, he asked the shooter, who is practicing . Where are they doing it . What are they doing it for . Thats because they were targeted because of their party and they were targeted by this guy because hes a Bernie Sanders supporter. The fact that a few miles away is where everybody works, it drives things home. I think things could change and i think if madonna got up tomorrow and said lets bring the white house down, i think if you heard or saw Kathy Griffin holding a picture of Donald Trumps alleged decapitated head, i think both parties would jump on and say
enough of this. 48 hours ago, the answer would have been who cares . Sandra sherrod brown, we all had a reaction watching him essay as an attempt to point fingers, but then he went on to point fingers at donald trump for inciting this environment. Jessica i would add that Mark Stanford said donald trump is partly to blame for this. It is a unity moment. I would ask that what happened to Gabby Giffords should have also been a unity moment at this level. I understand that no one said to her are you a democrat and then shot her. Certainly it was a political scene, there are political aides everywhere. Its worrisome to me that we are still not any better. Having seen this in 2011 and knowing of other shootings that you alluded to. If we dont fix things post a new town, i dont know what we are as a country. Kennedy is not just the shootings. As the convenient guncontrol narrative. You have a guy and is not necessarily donald trump, is not necessarily Bernie Sanders. He had millions of followers who engaged in intense rhetoric and political passion on social media. They dont go out and target people and when someone does target people and what it is politically motivated and when he is trying to change behavior, that is terrorism. There are two different things. One, the psychotic actions of a mentally unstable person. The only reason this wasnt a murderer is because that guy was a horrible shot. Thats one thing. The political rhetoric and being curious about other peoples political backgrounds and how they came to their opinions, thats different. Trish theres a big
difference between political passion and caring about a particular Point Of View and getting that viewpoint across and then what weve crossed over into which is losing all sense of decency and humanity, what Kathy Griffin did. Weeks earlier, john griffin had said all the Republican Party members on capitol hill should be lined up and shot. That is crossing a line. Its no longer about the political ideas at stake and its turned into Something Else where we are losing our sense of who we are as a country. Sandra i want to bring in these headlines. These are running in major papers. The New York Times , americas legal politics. Los angeles times. Reaction to shooting for a nation a dozen district disagree, it hates. Boston globe after alexandria shooting, both parties all the nation a more civil political dialogue. Jessica i know we are
going to discuss the gun problem. I dont know when the time is her to talk about it. We should perennially be talking about it until stricter laws. As you said, just last week, donald trump, jr. , came on this network and he said democrats werent even humans. Thats coming from the president s son. Listen than just a liberal problem. Bringing up the rhetoric point, we need that from the white house as well. Kennedy this guy would have killed a people with a fire bomb if he didnt have access to weapons. Brian i would like to add this. I think fundamentally, our politics are all or nothing right now. You win coming of the white house coming of the House Committee of the senate. Youre losing for at least two years, maybe four years. Its a horrible feeling for a competitive country. The whole compromise thing is out the window. You compromise, you lose your job. If you have tax reform and you
bring in some democratic principles, you sold out your soul. I think there might be something to, we wont get as much, but maybe we dont have to get zero. Right now, mitch mcconnell, the only way he can get obamacare gone is to do it behind closed doors. It might be the work of genius. It may be fantastic, but it just creates anger because everyone is blocked out. Coming across the aisle as your publicans coming together with republicans. Kennedy the other thing to your point is if you express any sort of interest in the idea is that the president is talking about, you do someone with has an opposing viewpoint, you have an enemy trish kevin plank came out and said i like so many ideas that donald trump is posing. I think there are plenty of ceos who are reluctant to say yes, we need tax reform. They dont want to say it because they are fearful that the other side is going to come after them in a way that we havent seen. Sandra after the president said he was coming out of the paris accord, the Corporate Advisors to the president , several of them pulled out. Brian he cant possibly be someone jessica they think its a radically bad decision. Theres just us and aside. Sandra i can speak for all of us when we say our thoughts and prayers are with congressman
scalise. Meantime, this didnt take long. It took just three hours i forgot todays shooting a top democrat to call for more gun control. Whether this was the right time, we debate that. Plus, President Trump firing back after was reported that the Special Counsel overseeing the Russian Investigation is looking into whether he tried to obstruct justice. The president s lawyer pointing out that the story comes from yet another illegal leak. Questions about the Special Counsels neutrality. After the show, he can join our live chat by clicking the overtime tab at foxnews. Com unnumbered. Or go to facebook. Com. Brian kilmeade, youre going to stick around, right . Brian if you want. Sandra you can also tweet us if you want. You dont let anything
keep you sidelined. Thats why you drink ensure. With 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. For the strength and energy to get back to doing. What you love. Ensure. Always be you. Hey youve gotta see this. Cno. N. Alright, see you down there. Mmm, fine. Okay, what do we got . Okay, watch this. Do the thing we talked about. What do we say . Its going to be great. Watch. Remember what we were just saying . Go irish see that . Yes im gonna just go back to doing what i was doing. Find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. Kennedy it didnt take long after yesterdays Shooting Attack on a gathering of g. O. P. Lawmakers for the ongoing debate over guns to be renewed. Just three hours after news broke that congressman Steve Scalise and others had been sho shot. Governor terry mccullough, democrat of virginia and called
for greater gun restrictions, watch. The there are too many guns on the street. We lose 93 million americans a day to gun violence. Background checks shutting down loopholes. Its not just about politicians. We worry about this every day. 93 individuals a day. Kennedy wed be out of people by the weekend. Other democrats steered clear of that debate, including guncontrol advocates like senator chuck schumer. Watch. I was absolutely shaken by the news of the shooting early this morning at the Baseball Field and alexandria. Many of my friends and colleagues were practicing for the annual congressional Baseball Game, an event that brings us together each year. Let us pray that they and any others who are injured are able to recover quickly. This morning is the most
sobering reminder of how thankful we should be for the service of the Capitol Police force. Kennedy meantime, Barry Lowder Malcolm says congress should explore allowing congress to carry weapons to defend themselves. Hes saying hes introducing a bill that would allow reciprocity for those who have concealed carry permits from their home states. Roger williams who was also there says he would have been much more comfortable with a gun at the field. We were sitting ducks. We had nothing to fight back with but bats if it got to that. Would you feel safer if you had the ability to carry a gun . Remember two things. First of all, im for the second amendment. Im a guy from texas. Yes, i would have felt more comfortable. Kennedy hes absolutely right about that. Brian, all of those people would be dead if it werent for guns. Guns saved peoples lives yesterday. Brian right. Senator schumer gets it and heres why. He knows his colleagues would have spelt helpless. I cant believe this guy has a gun. Their instincts are i can play by dont have a gun to shoot back because for the most part, you want to be able to defend yourself, be of no shot against these cowards who want to stand back with a rifle but they obviously dont know how to use and take you out. For the most part, these assassins dont want to be in these situations. They like massacres. If they knew there was a chance, they probably would not have picked that. Kennedy lake gun free zones often times which is with a target. Jessica, it is an inappropriate time to have this discussion because we dont know where he got the gun. A lot of people are pointing out that there are less Gun Laws In Virginia as though somehow that would go in to his factoring critical thinking. Jessica first, its not the right time, but its also the right time to be talking about a because were used. I was looking at some statistics that were interesting. In the last year, thereve been 300,000 guns that were purchased without a Background Check according to the fbi. This was after all the discussion posts. That weighs heavy on all of us just as newtown does with Gabby Giffords. We didnt even talk about that shooting at happen at the ups facility because we are all paying attention to Steve Scalise. This is a daily occurrence. There is a unity moment that needs to be had, but its also
important to talk about the Weapon Of Choice that is being used in these crimes by lunatics who can get their hands on them. Kennedy especially in the u. K. , yeah, we sought at ohio state rake i tried to ram his car into a bunch of people. Trish in other words, we need to be talking about how we improve the political conversation and basically dont encourage these crazies to do what theyre doing. The whole Gun Control Issues live free or die new hampshire. We were not a big gun family, but i knew a lot of people that were. They hunted. You had a right to protect yourself. Thats all good. Im with you and that we can move more in the way of Background Checks, nothing wrong with that. When you get a Drivers License, you need to go through a certain amount of training, we can do the same thing with guns, but this is not the nine
stomach time to be talking about this. Sandra the question goes back to do you think this man, based on everything we learned about his past and his Strong Political words that he is used, do away with trump and company, do you think he would have carried out this act if he didnt have a gun esses weapon . The jessica he would have done something. This is a man clearly teetering on the edge. To only focus on this one incident ignores the countless lives, not 93 million a day, but 93 a day that are taken as a result of gun violence. Kennedy to your point about Drivers Licenses, having a Drivers License in the car is not implicit in the constitutio constitution. The plot thickens of the russia probe amid reports that robert
mueller is saying he obstructed justice. Today, President Trump is calling it a witch hunt. Should the white house be concerned . The real issues, we will discuss. Stay here at angies list, we believe
the president s lawyer also releasing a statement saying this. The fbi leak on Information Regard and the president is the greatest inexcusable and still illegal. Your thoughts . Brian they are trying to corroborate what comey said. He said, can you tell everybody that there is no there there when it comes to collusion and Michael Flynn is a good guy and back off. Im struck by the fact that we thought with Robert Mueller in place, the liquid stop. This is not confirmed by the New York Times or cnn here they seem to exchange breaking stories. They say five people briefed on the interview said the former deputy nsa chairman coates as well as rogers are going to be interviewed sometim