And worked to get right with the law under this policy, theyve been living here for years too. In some cases even decades. So leaving the broken system the way it is, thats not a solution. In fact, thats the real amnesty, pretending we can deport 11 Million People or build a wall without spending tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money is abetting what is really just factually incorrect. Its not going to work, and its not good for this country. Its a fantasy that offers nothing to help the middle class and demeans our tradition of being both a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. In the end, it is my firm belief that immigration is not something to fear. We dont have to wall ourselves off from those who may not look like us right now or pray like we do or have a different last name because being an american is about something more than that. What makes us americans is our shared commitment to an ideal, that all of us are created equal, all of us have a chance to make of our lives what we will. And every study shows whether it was the irish or the poles or the germans or the italians or the chinese or the japanese or the mexicans or the kenyans, whoever showed up over time by second generation, third generation, those kids are american. They do look like us, because we dont look one way. We dont all have the same last names. But we all share a creed, and we all share a commitment to the values that founded this nation. Thats who we are. And that is, what i believe, most americans recognize. So heres the bottom line. Weve got a very real choice that america faces right now. We will continue to implement the existing programs that are already in place. Were not going to be able to move forward with the expanded programs that we wanted to move forward on because the Supreme Court was not able to issue a ruling at this stage. And now weve got a choice about who were going to be as a country, what we want to teach our kids and how we want to be represented in congress and in the white house. Were going to have to make a decision about whether we are a people who tolerate the hypocrisy of a system where the workers who pick our fruit or make our beds never have the chance to get right with the law or whether were going to give them a chance, just like our forebearers had a chance to give their kids a Better Future. Were going to have to decide whether were people who accept the cruelty of ripping children from their parents arms and whether we actually value families and keeping them together for all of our communities. Were going to have to decide whether were going to continue to educate our children and then send them away to compete against us or whether we encourage them to stay and create new jobs and businesses right here in the united states. These are all the questions that voters now are going to have to ask themselves and are going to have to answer in november. These are the issues that are going to be debated by candidates across the country both congressional candidates as well as the president ial candidates. And in november americans are going to have to make about what we care about and who we are. I promise you this though, sooner or later Immigration Reform will get done. Congress is not going to be able to igging mother America Forever ignore America Forever. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. And i can say that with confidence because weve seen our history. We get these spasms of Politics Around immigration and fearmongering, and then our traditions and our history and our better impulses kick in. Thats how we all ended up here. Because i guarantee you at some point every one of us has somebody in our background who people didnt want coming here. And yet here we are. And thats whats going to happen this time. The question is, do we do it in a smart, rational, sensible way, or do we just keep on kick the can down kicking the can down the road . I believe this country deserves an immigration policy that reflects the goodness of the american people, and i think were going to get that. Hopefully, were going to get that in november. All right . Ill take two questions. Mr. President two questions. [inaudible conversations] go ahead. Thank you. Realistically, what do you see as the risk of deportation for these more than four Million People . You say we cant deport 11 million, and theres a chunk of time here. Let me be very clear. What was unaffected by todays ruling or lack of a ruling is the enforcement priorities that we put in place. And our enforcement priorities that have been laid out by secretary jeh johnson at the department of Homeland Security are pretty clear. We prioritize criminals. We prioritize gang bangers. We prioritize folks who have just come in. What we dont do is to prioritize people who have been here a long time who are otherwise lawabiding, who have roots and connections in their communities. And so those enforcement priorities will continue. The work that weve done with the dream act kids, those policies remain in place. So what this has prevented us from doing is expanding the scope of what weve done with the dream act kids. Keep in mind, though, that even that was just a temporary measure. All it was doing was basically saying to these kids you can have confidence that you are not going to be deported, but it does not resolve your ultimate status. That is going to require congressional action. So although im disappointed by the lack of a decision today by the Supreme Court, a deadlock, this does not substantially change the status quo, and it doesnt negate what has always been the case which is if were really going to solve this problem effectively, weve got to have Congress Pass a law. You know, i have pushed to the limits of my executive authority. We now have to have congress act. And hopefully, were going to have a vigorous debate during this election. This is how our dem can accuracy democracys supposed to work, and there will be a determination as to which direction we go in. As i said, im very confident about the direction this country will go in because weve seen this in the past. If we hadnt seen it in the past, america would look very different than it looks today. But whether were going to get this done now, soon, so that this does not continue to be this divisive force in our politics and we can get down to the business of all pulling together to create jobs and educate our kids and protect ourselves from exterrible threats external threats and, you know, do things that, you know, we need to do to insure a Better Future for the next generation, you know, thats going to be determined in part by how voters turn out and who they vote for in november, all right . One more question. Go ahead, mike. Two Going Forward questions. Number one, is this going to, are you going to be able to do anything more at all for immigrants Going Forward in terms of executive action before the election and the next president , and number two, do you in any way take this as some republicans presented this, as a slap at your use of executive authority in and will this in any way circumscribe how aggressively or forcefully you use executive authority in the remainder of your time in office . Okay. On the specifics of immigration, i dont anticipate that there are additional executive actions that we can take. We can implement what weve already put in place that is not affected by this decision. But, you know, we have to follow now what has been ruled on in the fifth circuit because the Supreme Court could not resolve the issue. And were going to have to abide by that ruling until an election and a confirmation of a ninth justice of the Supreme Court so that they can break this tie. Because weve always said that we are going to do what we can lawfully through executive action, but we cant go beyond that. And weve butted up about as far as we can on this particular topic. It does not have any impact on, from our perspective, on the host of other issues that were working on, because each one of these issues has a different analysis and is based on different statutes or different interpretations of our authority. So, for example, on climate change, thats based on the Clean Air Act and the epa and previous Supreme Court rulings as opposed to a theory of prosecutorial discretion that in the past every other president has exercised x. The Supreme Court wasnt definitive one way or the other on this. The problem is they dont have a ninth justice, so that will continue to be a problem. With respect to the republicans, i think what it tells you is that if you keep on blocking judges from getting on the bench, then courts cant issue decisions. And what that means is then youre going to have the status quo frozen, and were not going to be able to make progress on some very important issues. Now, that may have been their strategy from the start, but its not a sustainable strategy. And its certainly a strategy that will be are broken by this will be broken by this election. Unless their basic theory is that we will never confirm judges again. Hopefully, thats not their theory, was thats not because thats not how our democracy is designed. [inaudible] it was a onepart opinion that said we cant come up with a decision. I think thatd be a little bit of a stretch. Yeah. Maybe the next time they can if we have a full court issuing a full opinion on anything, then we take it seriously. This we have to abide by it, but it wasnt any kind of value statement or a decision on merits of these issues, all right . Thank you, guys. [inaudible conversations] harris the president talking with the press corps there at the white house about the u. S. Supreme courts decision today. They reached a tie, a 44, basically blocking what the president had intended to do with regard to some four Million People in this country here illegally. Theyve been here a long time, as he said. His plan through his program would be to shield them from deportation. By the Supreme Court not being able to reach a definitive decision in a 44 tie, what that means is that the president now has been blocked. And you just heard him saying that last question was really interesting. First, is this a referendum, mr. President , on the use of your executive power . The president doesnt think so. Well discuss it. But it certainly takes anything else off the table. He said at this point he does not see any indication that there is any further executive action that he could take on immigration. So if it doesnt a referendum, its definitely a stoppage of what the president might want to do Going Forward without congress, unilaterally on his own executively are. And the bottom line, he said, is his idea to go forth to shield four million from deportation has stopped, but some other things havent. He talked about dream act thats in place for younger americans born here even though their parents might be here illegally, he says they are shielded under the dream act. He talked more about affirmative action, not necessarily linked to this, but just pointing to some things he was happy about with the Supreme Court. Well get into it now with everybody here because this is outnumbered. Im harris faulkner. Here today is jedediah bee la, julie roginsky, actress stacey dash and todays oneluckyguy, anthony scare knewmy. Scaramucci. Youre outnumbered. Welcome back. Who was that guy cutting into our air time . [laughter] harris lets jump right in with executive action. Yep. Well, listen, thats been thats going to be the historical record of president obama, that he couldnt get along with the congress, didnt have enough liaisons up at the hill, and so he tried to do it on his own. I think if Justice Scalia were here, it wouldnt have just gone back to the old court. Listen, hes going to stay the course. He also said hes not going to deport these people under his watch, so this will be decided by the next american president. Harris were going to go to our reporter to break it down, and well come back to this issue. U. S. Supreme Court CorrespondentShannon Bream is live now from the Supreme Court. Boy, it has been an interesting day, shannon. Reporter it has. There was another case on the use of affirmative action in Higher Education that was essentially a win for them, but this one a big loss for them. Yes, its essentially a nondecision. And what we have right now in the toughth circuit fifth circuit is, basically, an injunction, a nationwide injunction against all of these deferral programs the president had put into place and extension of some of those programs is on hold. So we still could see a decision on the merits, but for now its on hold. Thats not going to change. It will very much probably fall to the next president. We immediately saw press releases from the candidates talking about how important this issue is to the election. But what the court did, we can guess how they voted, but essentially what theyve done is leave it to the lower court. What the fifth circuit said is that they were directly in conflict with current immigration law. Essentially, the president cant go around and change the law, go around Congress Without doing something administratively. There are all kinds of different ways he could have done this, but you heard him say what hes been saying, he was left no choice but to act unilaterally, and thats why he did so. The courts see it as separation of powers, believe the president stepped over his constitutional boundary, and these programs arent going anywhere. Harris you know, shannon, i heard the president sort of point to a reason why this may have happened this way. He kept talking about his Supreme Court nominee, Merrick Garland, and the fact that they had not moved ahead, the congress, on this and thats why he sees a nondecision which is blocking his program that he wants to the take forward. Reporter yeah, its all about who that ninth justice is. If Justice Scalia were sitting on this court today, its likely they would have lost outright. But, yes, thats what were hearing from people unhappy about this decision, they say its a further argument for them that the president s nominee should be seated so decisions will be 54 splits or majority splits so the court are reach a financial substantive decision. Harris Shannon Bream, thank you very much. This is huge. And what we were saying as the president was talking, the question i asked, julie, was had this gone forward, could thive on par legacy why for president obama as obamacare . Julie it would have been huge for the five Million People affected by this now. Whats interesting is this is the same thing obama himself said he wasnt sure he had the Constitutional Authority to do a few years ago and then changed his mind and went forward with it. So to me, whats fascinating about this is is it does put the onus on congress if they want to have some sort of Immigration Reform to get it done, that the president does not have executive authority to do this. It strikes me that the fact the president tremendously overstepped his bounds by putting out laws that the congress, it wasnt the purview of the congress. I assume if justice calea had been there, shannon was right, he would have voted it down. Im curious if Merrick Garland would have agreed as well. Harris thats fascinating. Im curious as to whether he does, of course, i dont think he does have authority to do this, though i love the merits of the bill. Harris and you support the president. But its interesting, not when hes going against the law. Julie again, im not a lawyer, but there are certain aspects of things that though id love to see passed into law i understand are extralegal when it comes to executive authority the president might have. Harris extralegal. Well, that could be his legacy, right . It could be an extralegal presidency. Hes done it a few times. This was the more significant time, at least on the immigration. This is the kind of stuff that you have a Representative Democracy for. Lets hash it out in the congress. Way better. Harris stacey, i want to get your idea about how plays in the election now. Stacey well, this just goes to show how important it is for our next Supreme Court justice, the choice. Thats going to determine where our country goes. And thats why i believe trump is the right guy, because i know hell pick the right guy for this country. And for immigration. And, you know, he talked about immigration being talked about through history and the past and nothing being done about it. Now weve got a guy who says im going to do something about it. Lets deal with. It might not be pretty, but it has to be dealt with. Hats for all you guys, but i didnt think you would wear them stacey and one more thing is Hillary Clinton wants to allow i like the way he just pointed out basically, you know, garden pickers, vegetable pickers and people who clean houses. He didnt talk about Syrian Refugees or people who could be terrorists, you know . Those are people that could come in the country as well. Harris you mentioned Hillary Clinton, so i want to go right there. Moments before the president spoke, the u. S. Democrat who is the presumptive nominee of his party said that the Supreme Court decision on texas immigration, because texas was really at the heart of this, right . On that case is unacceptable. Jed jed shes going to have to stand