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Thats it for this special report, fair, balanced and still unafraid. On the record with brit hume starts right now. Special report online begins in just seconds. The president ial race tonight is a near tie. Democratic president ial candidate Hillary Clinton loads Republican Donald Trump by three points in a twoway race and just 2. 1 points in a four way race. Thats according to the real clear politics average. One month ago tonight she led by nearly seven points in a fourway race. Good evening from washington, im brit hume. Tonight, one big question concerns undecided voters. Fully 13 of voters polled say they dont back either major Party Candidate yet at least according to a new wall street journal poll. Among them 52 are suburban voters. 52 whites college degree. 48 hope the republicans will continue their control of congress. 79 have negative views of both Hillary Clinton and donald trump. For some thoughts on this tonight, we start with former Senior Advisor to george w. Bush karl rove who joins me from new york. Hi, carl. Hi there, brit. Listen, what do you think about . This looks like an unusually high number of undecides at this stage. Am i right about that . Absolutely. Since this summer we had half again as many undecided voters as we have had in any election since 1992. And we also have had two different kinds of undecided voters. We have traditional had in president ial election years undecideds who are not very partisan. They tend to be a little bit more nonwhite. A little bit less affluent. They look like the rest of the electorate generally except they dont take much information. They dont care about politics much and make up their minds very late and driven by the personal characteristics of the candidates. In this election we have a second kind of undecided voter. Unconvinced undecideds. Well informed. Uneducated. Suburban areas and metropolitan regions. They have the dynamic that you described earlier. In this election they tend to be more republican than democrat. And they dont like either candidate. Eight out of ten of them. Northeasterly eight out of ten of them have negative feelings about donald trump and 8 out of 10 have negative feelings about Hillary Clinton. It will be interesting to see how they come out of this thing because they are more hikely to participate in the election than the traditional. The conventional wisdom about undecided voters is that its easy to under estimate their impact because most of them end up not voting. These people according to the profile we get from this poll look like the kind of people who do vote. Absolutely. They are sitting there, waiting to get the right kind of signal to vote. Interestingly enough, donald trump has easier path to get to them. They tend to be republican. Regardless who gets elected president they want republican congress. Regardless hough gets elected they want democratic congress. Soft republicans in the suburbs. He has to reassure them that he is up to the job. She has got to persuade them that they ought to vote for her. Those are two different things. One the message of look i realize we have got differences but at the end of the day im the change agent that you can have confidence in. She has got to persuade them look, i know you want change. I know you dont like me. I know you distrust me. I know you are upset about the last eight years. You know what . Stay with us, continuity because is he too extreme. A lot easier to do what he needs to do than what she needs to do. In the end, karl. Its occurred to me as you suggest that a lot of voters just dont want to vote for her. Um. Um all other things being equal, this would be a year in which it would be a pretty easy task for a republican to be elected. Donald trump is proving that its a difficult task. What is he basically, you know, really have to do here to get these people, a to vote and b, to vote for him . Well, lock, its like fine art. We know it when we see it i think americans saw it in mexico city. I thought that News Conference afterwards was president ial. He was not angry. He was not pounding the table. He wasnt calling people names. He looked and acted and sounded like a president. I thought the event on saturday morning in detroit he, you know, there was a guy who looked like a president. Thursday night, where he is playing to the crowd and angry and out of control at times, thats the kind of thing that i think causes this group of unconvinced, undecideds to say, you know what . Im going to be sitting on the sidelines a little bit more. With these numbers, karl, it does look like there are plenty enough of them that they could decide the election either way, right . Exactly. In the last month he has cut that lead from 7. 9 to 3 points. And he has done so by after three terrible weeks following the convention and he has done so by moving those undecides in to his column. The kind of people talking about are the people that fueled that movement that has closed the gap. More by leaving her than coming to him but none the less coming to him. Yeah. I guess one his worries has to be that those voters wont go to you know, the other Party Candidates. Which i guess is a possibility. Karl, thank you. Great to see you. Great to see you. Hope to see you again soon. Absolutely. A little later we will be joined by former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich who has advised donald trump on many things to discuss with him how the republican nominee might prepare to debate Hillary Clinton. Stay with us. Today in philadelphia, donald trump put some more meat on the bones of his campaign as he made what was billed as a major speech on military preparedness. Here is a little of what he said. In 2010, the United States spent 554 billion on nonwar base defense spending. In the year, and i have to say, currently, were spending 548 billion, a cut of 10 . And that number is going down very rapidly, looking into the future. Unless i become your president. This reduction was done through what is known as sequester, which you have all heard about or automatic Defense Budget cuts. Under the budget agreement, defense took half of the cuts even though it makes up only one sixth of the budget. They put it all in defense. As soon as i take office, i will ask congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military. It is so depleted. We will rebuild our military. [ applause ] we will build an active army of around 540,000 as the armys chief of staff has said he needs, desperately, and really must have to protect our country. We now. [ applause ] we now have only 31 brigade combat teams or 490,000 troops, and only 1 3 of combat teams are considered combat ready. Thats not good for our country. Here to discuss military preparedness and the trump plan for it is an authority on the subject, retired army general bob scales, author of a new book called scales on war, the future of americas military at risk. Bob, hi, good to see you. Hi, brit. Good to be here. First of all, give me, if you can, the sense of what your book is getting at. My book is all about three numbers, brit. 81, four, and one. In wars fought since the end of world war ii the period we call the american period of war 81 of those who died at the hands of the enemy are made up of less than 4 of the total uniformed people in d. O. D. And they receive less than 1 of the budget. These are close combat soldiers, infantry men, not soldiers and marines, infantry men. Oh, by the way, most of our enemies have been infantry men. They though because they have a vote the surest way to end a war is strike our bulk center of gravity is dead americans. Our close combat soldiers and marines our most vulnerable, why dont we do more to protect those who are most likely to die. Lets look for a moment, bob, at the trump proposal, some of the specifics, active army 540,000 as you heard him say, marine corps based on 36 battalions. Navy approaching 350 surface ships and marines. Air force of at least 320 fighter aircraft. Is that the kind of thing we need to do or is infamous in the wrong place. It goes a long way to fixing the problem. You cannot defend the nation in our future wars. You cant even defeat isis with a Ground Combat force, soldiers and marines that small. By the way, he wants to go to 540. What are we now about 480 something . 490 going down to. Marines 44 combat battalions he wants to raise it to 36. In addition, i think he wants to increase special operating forces elite fighting forces. All that is good. My only quibble with this idea is he hasnt talked about modernizing these forces. I mean, if we continue as we are now, my grandson will be commanding a battalion of reagan era tanks. Not just enough to increase numbers. We have continue to crease the quality of the force, i guarantee you the russians and the chinese are rapidly at work doing that very same thing. Now, all this is going to cost a lot of money to do this. Yes. And the additional things that you think are need he had. Dot things that he has described strike you, policies likely to finance that . Boy, thats a good question. What he suggests cooking is cutting the federal bureaucracy to include the military priewk crazy. The question is this 40, 50 billion additional dollars, can you get that . You can squeeze the orange that much to get that much juice out of it . Im not sure about that. But i am sure that you cannot defend this nation on 2. 5 of our g. D. P. Devoted to fighting our cars. Our wars. You cant do it. You need a robust economy. It all starts with that doesnt it . Because if you decrease the budget to 3 . You grow the economy at 4. 5 a year, we are going to make those numbers easily. If we dont we are in trouble. Bob scales great to see you. Back on the campaign trail, lets look at arizona where a new poll shows the state is a tossup this election even though a democrat hasnt carried arizona in 20 years. The Arizona Republic poll shows clinton with a 1. 6 point lead in a fourway race that, of course, is within the margin of error. Same poll found 23 of arizona voters have not made up their mind on which candidate they will vote for. We turn to political reporter dan kno dan nowicki. Whats going on out there. We have a new poll come out today and shows arizona is a tossup. Its no longer the g. O. P. Strong hold that its been really since 1948. President bill clinton carried arizona in 1996. So before that you have to go way back to harry truman in 1948 before you find a democrat who was able to win arizona. This year its really close. Our polls showed Hillary Clinton leading donald trump by about a percentage point. So it really could go either way. About 23 undecided. We talked about 23 undecided. What is the cause of that . I mean, we just talked about the fact that there is unusually high number of undecideds nationwide with karl rove. In arizona are there particular reasons for that . Is the fact that the people have misgivings about the candidates . Immigration issue is so important about arizona. Arizona expoit his reputation they have foe sis if i kitted view of immigration. Trump policy like we are going to build a wall and have them pay for it. It may play better in the country than arizona. Arizona hugely effected by immigration are not that excited . Thats interesting. Even though we get the negative impact of illegal immigration we understand how it works and fits into the economy. The ears republic poll that came out today we ask questions and majority of borders didnt hulk building a border wall. They were very much opposed to the idea of mass deportation of all the undocumented immigrants in the country now. Now, how is john mccain doing . When i was out there not too many months ago he was having a big fundraiserrenned i saw half of the u. S. Senate in the hotel. These guys were clearly out there because they think he is in trouble . Is he still in trouble and how is it going . Senator mckin is going to be. Assume single digit race all the way to the end. He is in better position now. For a while he has taken a beating from the right and left. Democrat trying to tie him to trump. He was being very delicate. Doing a delicate dance there didnt want to trump the trump hornet nest. I think he is in much better shape. Last poll i saw on senate race out there had it at about 8 points for mccain. Is that still the case . I think thats a pretty reasonable assumption. There is kind of a partisan poll that had it tied. And then there was a cnn poll that had a bigger lead for mccain that most people view as outlier. Probably somewhere in between. So probably 7 or 8 points is probably where its at. Okay. Arizona state to watch, dan, thank you very much. Thanks, brit. House republicans are investigation into the firm that deleted large amounts of Hillary Clintons emails after congress had subpoenaed the material. Fox news intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge is with us since he is covering that story. Hi, catherine, what do you know . Hi, brit. Based on our investigation today the key month is march of 2015. We have a graphic for you to look at the time line. March 2nd is when the New York Times first reported that clinton was using a personal email account. By the 3rd and 4th of that month. This is march 2nd of last year. Correct. By march 4th sent a preservation for the clinton email as well as a subpoena for the clinton emails. Did that go to the it firm. My march 9th plat River Networks in colorado had been notified there was a preservation order. Then on march 25th, clintons legal time David Kendall and cheryl mills have a conference firm with the itm in colorado. Then on march 1st the cleats the archive backup of clintons emails. The case they are making there is an order torch delete the record there was a Conference Call and then the conversation was deleted. When it was issued to whom was it issued . To the clintonsen state department and Management Firm in colorado. That firm is called plat river. It had in the of this. Correct. It clearly would apply for them. This is the issue for the obstruction. This committee is so serious about the issue they are prepared to subpoena the engineer from that firm and bring them to washington. Now, that engineer was interview by the fbi, is it not. Thats correct. The name is redacted. So we dont know who it is. They must know. The fbi knows and not even the committee knows. They are demanding that that at least be released to them so they can issue a subpoena if thats required. Now, if i assume that the suspicion on the part of the Committee Members is that this was done after a subpoena had been issued and notification gone out to hold the documents that that would have amounted to object destruction of justice . Thats right. Where do we go from here . The Congressional Oversight Committee has to move very quickly. As you can appreciate, they are now up against a very tight time line. They have to get all of this accomplished or whatever progress they can make really by the end of september. Come october, everyone is going to be out campaigning. They are moving very quickly on this issue. And the fbi director is also going to be back on the hill to testify about the investigation. Do you know when that might be . I believe its the third week of september. Everything is moving. Its like a train moving down the track very quickly. We have had a lot of trains running down a lot of congressional tracks in my experience and sometimes they derail and never get where they are going. Thank you very much. Thank you. New concerns how this years election might be rigged. Our Political Panel will be here next. Also, the first president ial debate is just 19 days away. Newt gingrich is here to discuss how republican candidate donald trump may be getting ready for that big debate. Straight ahead. You owned your car for four years. You named it brad. You loved brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. Two boyfriends, three jobs. Youre like nothing can replace brad. Then Liberty Mutual calls. And you break into your happy dance. If you sign up for better car replacementâ„¢, well pay for a car thats a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. Liberty stands with youâ„¢. Liberty mutual insurance. Afoot and lighthearted i take to the open road. Healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. The east and the west are mine. The north and the south are mine. All seems beautiful to me. New concerns over possibility of a rigged election right here in the u. S. Ash carter warned russia to stay out of the u. S. Election. The fbi, meanwhile, is currently investigating allegations that the russians hacked the Democratic National Committee Earlier this year. Mr. Cartedders stern warning to russia came as concerns arose in the u. S. The election could be rigged here as well. James carville, remember him . Said this earlier today. By and large, american elections are pretty much on the up and up. I mean, it is very, very i cannot tell that you somebody cannot rig a voting machine 100 votes here and 100 votes there thats possible. He went on to say, of course, that those kinds of numbers simply arent enough to throw elections, even local elections as a rule. Tracy, we have heard a lot of buzz this year it seems to me about the election being rigged trump predicting it might be rigged and all the rest of it what would it take to actually rig a president ial election . Youre right. Trump has paved the way for if he loses saying that the election is people cheated. And there is a it is a legitimate concern. There is a device out there. Its 15. Can you just plug it in to the voting machine when you vote and you can put cast multiple ballots. 73 of ballots are cast why paper and the rest are electronic. It is vulnerable. So you have got 27 chunk of the votes cast that could be influenced by this device or is it more than that . Swing states, pennsylvania, florida, virginia, North Carolina. These are the ones where there is no paper trail . Right. So there is no way to go back and determine whether the vote was honest or not by checking against the paper . Right. So, is it conceivable . I mean, can i understand the local election. I can kind of see that. Particularly, you know local office. National election, steven is it conceivable . All you have to go back to 2,000 in an instance where you were talking about a few hundred votes that separated candidates in the most critical state there in florida. Look, as you said earlier, you are talking about a quarter of the ballots that are on machines where there is no paper trail. There is some where you still vote electronically but there is still a paper trail that comes out of that and go back and track it down. Even though a voter goes in and seize electronic machine that doesnt mean thats a no paper trail machine. A quarter of the machines are electronic only. There are literally web videos out there showing people who are able to crack these sorts of things. You know, with the problems you have with being able to steal atm numbers and whatnot, yes. There is absolutely a chance that people could get to these machines. Now, having said that, you actually to have by and large physical access to the machine. And you have to basically have enough of a chance to be able to put whatever device you need to put on to that machine. Is it a large problem . No. But there is a chance. And its going to feed into exactly what we were talking about a minute ago with both sides now raising the possibility of a rigged election. And, you know, the fears of russia alleged into that. Is the worst issue the fact that this buzz about it i mean it, does seem like it would be very hard i mean, an awful lot of things would have to come together to throw a president ial election. In florida, obviously, in 2000 it came down to, you know, just a few places. Right. You would have to note that ahead of time. Nonow you know. And you would have to have a coordinated effort. Basically you would have to have a lot of people getting together to want to do this on a lot of different machines. The conspiracy level to actually throw the election is probably very unlikely. Staggering. The but the ability to mess with it on a lower level is there. It does raise a question, tracy, people worried about it, all that does is diminish confidence. Thats right. Optics look really bad. If hillary wins and trump loses and there are plenty of people that would buy into the fact that the elections was rigged. Most of them are on my twitter feed. I hear from them all the time. They get on mine, too. If you go back to 2004, the votes in ohio, there was some question about the votes being cast in ohio and democrats actually tried to challenge the ohio vote in the house of representatives there. So thats how much, you know, interest was some people coming out of that election saying bush was not a legitimate second term election after the first term. As i recall bush won the state of ohio by 116,000 votes. For that to have ban fraud, would have been quite an undertaking. Yes, did you have folks even with that level saying they disbelieved the results and ohio was enough to swing the overall election. Its sort of a symbol of how badly you can have just the mere questions about the votes affecting the next president. Steve and tracy, thanks very much. The first president ial debate is just over two weeks away. But how should political newcomer donald trump prepare . Former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich is here next. When you have people who are cutting christians heads off. When you have a world at the border and some places that its mid evil times. I have a plan that i have put forward to go after isis. Not to contain them but to defeat them. And it has three parts. I will tell you what, with Hillary Clinton i said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why . She had no choice because i gave to a foundation that, tankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didnt know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world. It was. I have been for the brady bill. I have been against assault weapons. I have voted not to give gun makers and sellers immunity. It seems like a long time ago, doesnt it . That was the two major Party Candidates in the primary dates. The first general Election Debate now just 19 days away. So you would have to think that donald trump, being new to this and new to governance would be at at a disadvantage former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich joins us now. He has advised trump on a number of things. This is a challenge for him, wouldnt you say . Its a challenge. But i think you have to be very careful about him. Because trump is lick a little bit like babe ruth. One of those athletes who doesnt do well in practice. The question is does he practice at all . Yeah. I think he practices all the time but not the way normal people do. My sense is if he sees you he will say gee, brit, how do you think if she does this i do that it will be 40 seconds. He will listen very carefully. Next person he sees rebecca gomez. Gee, rule rude rude if if she does this or in the moderator does this i do that . You get this constant thinking about it. Very dinner and i think in his case it may be right. I never did practice sessions when i ran. And the reason is. But, mr. Speaker, by the time you ran for president and participated in those debates had you been around washington and steeped in these issues and the details of these issues for years and years. Right. So you had stuff in rush hour head you didnt know was there. But so does he. About Foreign Policy and defense . If we get down into who is the Prime Minister of the president of gambia, he is going to lose. I get that people are not going to hold that against him. Right. What im thinking though is these questioners are going to ask him questions that require some level of detailed knowledge about the world and about america. She will be able to answer them with specificity. Right. It would be seems to me difficult for him to do so at the same level and so how does he deal with that possibility . First of all, i dont think he should try. I mean, i think the worst thing you could do to donald trump is try to figure out a way in 20 days to fill his brain with enough details that he can sound like a good graduate student. Best thing you can do is give him the confidence. Is he so much faster than she is. Look at all the debates he was. In these were first rate talents. Ted cruz was a good debater. Jeb bush in a different world would have been a great candidate. Marco rubio was a very solid person. Yeah, but did he that by turning those debates into personal brawls and they worked like crazy for him. What do you think is he going to do with this one . Thats what im getting at can he do that in a subdued atmosphere of a president ial debate. We can talk after the debate. I look forward to that. I will be very shocked if a donald trump debate is a subdued debate. [ laughter ] i think he is going to come in being donald trump. Is he going to debate as donald trump. And after the debate is he going to say to the American People hey, you want a guy who is brash and aggressive and fights for america, im available. If you want somebody over here who studied everything and failed totally she is available. Take your pick. Let me put myself in the shoes of undecided voter who really doesnt want to vote for Hillary Clinton. Or donald trump and they are sitting there going what am i going to do. What am i going to do. There are a lot of people like that as you well know. I dont want to vote for her but can i vote for him . Will the country be safe in his hand. Does he know and grasp enough about the world so that i can confidently vote for him . And he does not succeed in speaking knowledgeably of the facts of the world, and isnt that a risk. I think people people tend to forget who this guy is. There is a trump tower in dubai. There is a trump tower in panama. He owns a place in scotland. He has done business all over the planet. Its not like this guy showed up on Tuesday Morning direct from the cattle barn. He is a worldwide figure. Well, if he had, it would have been a great cattle barn. It would have been yuge. I think what he has got to do. My strongest advice is, one, remember that the moderator is a bigger threat than hillary. You have got to be able to think about what the moderator is asking you and never allow them to put new a box. Two, never let hillary get you upset. Whatever she says is fine. And just go great job hill, nice try. Go to the next topic. Three, reframe things in the terms of his world view. His world view dramatically different than hers. He believes in america first. He doesnt belief in a lot of the stuff that she has been doing. He doesnt believe in the war she has been fighting. You think on the question of not letting her get under his skin that he can swing that. I have been fat sin nateed to watch and see. Thanks very much. I appreciate it, thanks for coming. In another big day day on the trail. You will hear from the best moments from that next. Allergy medicine alone. Shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. Breathe right. Seconds can mean the difference between life and death. For partners in health, time is life. We have 18,000 people around the world. The microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and Work Together in real time to help those that need it. The ability to collaborate changes how we work. What we do together changes how we live. Its scary when the lights go out. People get anxious and my office gets flooded with calls. 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She is trigger happy and very unstable whether we like it or not, thats whats going on. You should vote for hillary because she is the best change maker i ever knew. As president obama said, she is the most qualified person we have had a chance to vote for in modern times including him and me. [cheers and applause] and because we are stronger together, god bless you. Thank you. Its always fun to hear the big dog on the campaign trail. He seems to have his fast ball. Trump looks encouraged focus on Hillary Clinton, go hard after her. You heard a good solid dose of what he says. Is that stuff effective or is the medicine too strong . Tracy . Its never too strong. His base eats it up. I understand that. He needs to expand his base. Thats true. And he looked very he looked a lot more president ial today. Today his speech was more sober. It was less bombastic. It was reminisce sent of his mexico visit. Less of the immigration speech that he delivered. What you heard him say about hillary unstable. She says it so much now that it is almost not even its not but do you think its a credible argument . Hillary has all kinds of issues and he calls her crooked hillary. She calls him unstable. Is that a case that will win over people like the voters we have been talking about tonight . I think talking about how she doesnt look president ial. Antsd the fact that she is the first female candidate of a major party. I think that says more to hurt her credibility among the women moderates that he needs. Steve, your thoughts . You know, his biggest problems are not when he is attacking her. His biggest problems are when he gets sucked into attacks on other people like the khans at the convention and whatnot. At this point, as long as he doesnt Say Something that comes across as impossibly sexist or impossiblely racist. His attacks on her are probably not going to be a problem for him. His main job is to get out of his own way and let her continue to be Hillary Clinton. And the more she does that the worse she is playing with voters. When she emails, the clinton foundation, when those stories start to hit, his numbers go up, more importantly, her numbers go down. And those voters end up in the ether and are not going to vote or undecideds. The math works for him better when he stays out of his way. What im looking at here the mere News Coverage of the issues that surround her and swirl around her and the issue of her credibility, that seems to me to have done a lot of harm. And the question i have is weather he capitalizing on that hearing what you hear him saying or whether he needs to be more focused on, for example, the quite detailed military proposals he had today. The problem with military proposals is that he laid out a lot that was very interesting in them. The financing is a real problem for him. There are giant holes there. The more you get into that policy, for example, there is no detail on actually taking on isis. He said he would punt to the generals. Those policy details dont work very well for him. Its good for him to give them . Dont you think people want to know that he has them though. Thats reassuring, yes. Do the bare minimum to assure voters he stable force and bring something to the white house and stay out of his way and let Hillary Clinton do what Hillary Clinton is going to do. This election is a referendum on clinton and referendum on obama. Steve and tracy thank you very much. North carolina is very close. Tonight our man Griff Jenkins visited the tarheel state to speak with swing state voters. You will interested to hear what they have to say. Stay tuned. Take on any road with intuitive allwheel drive. The nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. Now get 0 apr for 72 months, plus 500 bonus cash. This car is traveling over 200 miles per hour. To win, every millisecond matters. 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Meet brent, is he a Third Generation shrimper, his big dream that his kids and their kids can keep the shrimping legacy alive. Their biggest challenges, Severe Weather and overregulation. Whether you want to 100,000pound haul or 20,000pound haul or 5,000pound haul, you know, its just depending on how the season is, how Mother Nature is treating you, and, also, how regulations is effecting how you are able to work or not work. So who does brent want in the oval office . I think that im probably going to have to vote for trump. He appears to be pretty stout business person. But there is some rough waters between this Business Owner and one captain who hit the water for him. I am for hillary. Hillary . Yeah. I dont think much of trump. You dont like trump . No. He isnt going to help the poor man. You think donald trump understands how hard this job is . What it is like to go out. No, he dont. No, he dont. The team is reigle in the big catch of the day arent all necessarily on the same page. Trump, clinton, what do you think . I dont know what to say about this election. Its a little different from what we are all used to. Are you undecided . Do you think you will event actually vote for one or the other or just sit this one out. Im not going to vote for either one of them . Out here, with the men and women keeping one of the oldest industries alive, im Griff Jenkins for on the record. North carolina is a general kin tossup state. In 2008 he went for president obama. In 2012 for governor mitt romney. This year the most recent cnm poll. That polls 3. 5 margin of era. Tim funk is covering the race in North Carolina. He joins us now. Hi, tim, welcome. How are you . Im well, buddy. Absolutely. What are you seeing there in the last few days . Well, you know, i think its the closest race in the country. We have certainly been getting a lot of attention. Hillary clinton is coming in tomorrow to charlotte to have a rally at historic black college. We had trump tuesday night in greenville, North Carolina, which is where a lot of the old jesse helms democrats still live. We had bill clinton in durham. We had tim kaine in chapel hill and wilmington all this week and we would have had mike pence but he had to cancel over the weekend because of the hurricane was pearing down. He was supposed to be in fayetteville where fort bragg is. We are not starching for starch stamping fo starving for attee it could go either way. Where are the undecided voters. What are their concerns, as far as you can tell. What kind of thing might swing this election one way or the other in this state. Its interesting. In National Hurricane center the big cities, the big urban areas intend to go increasingly democratic. Rural and areas and small town go republican. The suburbs will decide, i think, where North Carolina goes. Last weekend i went to the shush bushes in charlotte and interviewed a bunch of several White College educated women. And, you know, traditionally republican friendly territory. But i have to tell you, first of all, they dont like either one of them. But, trump, they found several said they are turned of by trump. Called him a pully. They said he might get us into a war. Hillary they dont like. They had some problems with her ethics issues. And think she is sort of a politician. Some of them are looking at gary johnson who could pull in the double digits here. I think trump could win some people over by stressing jobs and his business background and i think Hillary Clinton, even if they dont like her they think she is smart and could be a good president or at least a competent president. I would not want to have to be you and try to pick a winner in this deal. How much, in your view, will depend on the debate, particularly the first debate . I think it could be huge. I remember in 1980, on that old when Ronald Reagan was actually behind in the polls, or neck in neck with jimmy carter but then in that debate he convinced people that he was president ial. I mean, up to that point people wondered about whether he had the smarts and whatever, i think the polls went overnight went in his direction. Trump could potentially do that as well. Im not sure he has got the discipline to study the issues and really be on his game. But, there is a higher bar for clinton. I think she has got to do a lot of different things. I think if she shows him up to be not particularly ready for the presidency, that could change a lot of minds. Thanks, tim, good to have you on. Hope to see you again. Thank you. Coming up, not just the poll numbers. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton in another kind of race. Stay tuned. announcer vo thats right, keep rockin. Siriusxms free listening event might be over, but now you can turn us back on with packages starting at 5. 99 a month, plus fees. Just call 8558747743 to keep hearing all the things that make you love taking the long way home. So call 8558747743 or visit siriusxm. Com getsxm to turn us back on. And up. Time now for the nightly feature we Call Campaign flash. First is god news for president ial candidate donald trump. The candidate raised about 90 million in his campaign for his campaign in august. Thats a big haul for a candidate who didnt put much effort into fundraising until june. In a rally yesterday he credited his own contributions plus small donor contributions to the campaign. His rival though, Hillary Clinton, raised 143 million in the same period. That, of course, is 50 more

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