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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren August 26, 2015



it all happened live on tv. the murder, a disgruntled former reporter at the virginia news station where the murder victims worked. the murder of allison parker and adam ward also playing out on social media as the killer posted the video he took of committing the two murders. vester lee flanigan went by the on air name of brice williams and fled the murder scene driving 175 miles before turning the gun on himself and taking his own life. we have live team coverage. but, first we go to fox news correspondent rick leventhal, rick? >> former coworkers describe him as off kelter, bizarre and threatening. the sheriff called him disturbed and his former bosses called called 911. he became agitated slamming doors and threatening people. adam ward, one of the victims today, videotaped flanigan's tirade. and flanigan told him to lose his big gut and flipped off ward's camera. 6:had 5 this morning adam ward had hesitate camera back on his shoulder, doing a live shot with reporter allison parker in virginia. parker was interviewing vicki gardner the local chairman of commerce about tourism. he pointed and waited for pan back. that's when he he began shooting, firing at least 15 rounds, killing parker, who tried to run, killing ward, and wounding gardner who is now recovering in stable condition at a local hospital. we know how this all played out, greta, of course, because flanigan shot video shooting the gun with his right. after flanagan fled the scene he tweeted about what he had done. a 23 page manifesto to abc news claiming the murders were retaliation for the charleston church shootings. saying hollow pointed bullets had his initials on it you want a race war bring it you white [bleep]. praised the virginia texas shooter and the columbine killers and saying he had had a victim of racial discrimination, sexual harassment, bull idea at work picked on for being a gay black man. yes, it will sign like i'm angry, i am. i have every right to be. when he i leave this earth the only emotion i want to feel is peace. the church shooting was the tipping point but my anger has been building steadily. i have been a human powder keg for a while just waiting to go boom. of course, seeing the shooting play out on live tv was shocking especially for people in the control room including adam ward's fiancee who was producing that morning show and the franklin county sheriff who was watching it live on tv. >> it is really stopped me in my tracks this morning, like many viewers, i was watching this morning's broadcast, and couldn't understand really what was happening myself at that time. >> it's emotional for you? >> very emotional. >> well, a few hours after that shooting, a state trooper was on i-66 and her license plate reader got a hit on flanagan's vehicle. she followed him, called for backup. and, when it arrived, she tried to pull him over. he fled. it was a short chase. and then he lost control of the vehicle and crashed. when the troopers approached the vehicle, they found flanagan dying from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. allison parker was 24 years old. adam ward was 27. they were just starting their careers according to a statement from wdbj said both had big plans and bright future cut short in the shattering attack here this morning. greta. it's unbelievable, two going to work and you expect the day would be so much different. >> yes. >> we talked about chris hurst, his girlfriend was one of the people who was murdered. chris hurst, his co-anchor is jean, and she joins us tonight. jean, thank you for joining us. >> you are welcome, greta. >> jean, you know, i don't even know what to say to you, what to ask you. i mean, so very difficult for you in so many ways. first, it's someone you knew. then it's someone you work with fiancee and you have got to do your job. what do you say tonight to the viewers who are watching? >> well, first of all, it's been a very, very surreal day from the phone call i got this morning at 10 after 7:00 we need you to come in allison and adam have been involved in a shooting. i had no idea at that point that they had been fatally shot, gunned down at point blank range by a former coworker of ours, no less. so, coming in to work, of course, when we found out the news, when i you found out the news, we were all crying and hugging one another. my co-anchor chris hurst was there. he lives with allison parker. the two had been in a serious relationship since january. so, hugging him and consoling one another and then in the next breath my boss is saying we need to get out on the air and do a special report. how do you do it? you know how it is, greta. you just do you go on the air with your makeup not looking great but and voice shaky. you have a job to report what's going on and what's happening. we knew at this point that this gunman was on the loose. we wanted to get that information out there. here is what happened. and let's find this guy. >> did you know the killer? did did did your work time at the station overlap with his? >> it did. he was at the station for a little under a year, i believe. and he was let go in 2013. so just two years ago. so i you knew him. did i know he him well? no. i do know he had a lot of problems and complaints against people at the station. he always seemed -- always felt, in his words, that people were out to get him. that they were somehow against him, which really wasn't the case. we work with a diverse group of people in our newsroom. and, in my opinion, people were not out to get him. but, from the words that he wrote in that manifesto you talked about, it seems that he was troubled and that's what he thought. it's interesting, too. vester flanagan, we knew him as brice williams. and i wondered, did he hide his legal name and identity when he applied for the job to hide the troubles he had had in the past with anger lawsuits, and volatility. we were all afraid when he left. he had to be escorted out of the station by police. and we were told to, if we see him, to call police because it was clear he was angry at the station and the people who worked here and was volatile. so in a scary way, when i heard it was him. i wasn't surprised. i can't imagine what it is like for chris hurst tonight. we saw his twitter account and saw his tweets as he wrote about his fiancee. i can't even -- i imagine the newsroom is just grief-stricken tonight. two members of your team. >> i know, two members of our team gone and then two additional members deeply affected, are mourning flowers on her desk from adam. today is her last day at the station. she just accepted a job in charlotte. today her last day and adam had sent her flowers. she has a bouquet of flowers on her desk with a bouquet from adam. he was excited i talked to him last week leaving tv news and two other jobs set up in charlotte to start a life with our producer in chearmt. they just found a new apartment. he said i'm going to stick around and go to the virginia tech game a week from sunday because is he a huge hokies fan. you talk about allison parker and chris, those two started dating shortly after christmas. two peas in the pod. two very motivated 20-somethings who wanted to do everything they can to get the story and be the best they can on the air and learn and come to any hour of the day or night to cover a story and just that motivation and determination to do a great job. and they always had fun together. chris said something to me today in the newsroom. he said alison brought out this side of me you normally he don't show. like she drug him along to a pint night, for example, those nights where people go to a restaurant and they do a painting, something he ordinarily wouldn't do. she got him into heeking and kayaking and just kind of the silly, fun side of him. and he -- i think we're all in shock. he is certainly in shock. he was in the newsroom for several hours this morning waiting to get the clearance to leave because in the morning hours we were all told not to leave the television station because there was a threat that a gunman was out there, potentially targeting others of us that work at wdbj 7. so a huge loss. huge loss. >> of course, if this could get any more wicked, i don't know if it can. bringing a camera. and then posting the video on facebook, which he did. but you have also got adam's fiance in the control room watching her fiance get murdered. yank of a more vicious thing to do to anybody. >> i can't either, greta. it just goes to show all of us how troubled this guy was. who does something like that? i mean, this was clearly planned and from everything i'm hearing, this was planned out. thought this out. he rented a car, according to state police earlier this month, and then left his car at the airport which, by the way, is a stone's throw from here at the tv station. and, apparently, he took the rental car today to make his escape. so this was something -- it wasn't something, at least it doesn't sound like something that was spur of the moment as he described as you said in that document, a powder keg, i believe, waiting to explode. this had been eggs escalating. he had a lot of anger. he had a lot of mental issues. and, yeah, who does that? who posts that? it has to be someone -- i can't even imagine. i have not looked at his twitter account. i have not watched that video. i don't think i will. i don't think i want to see that. >> well, the whole nation is mourning tonight, as you might imagine. thank you very much for joining us. i know that this is a difficult night in particular for you to get up in front of a camera. thank you very much. >> thanks, greta. >> this is a fox news alert. a police officer shot and a standoff underway in sun set, louisiana. kadn's john arnold is live in sun set. he joins me live on the phone. john, what's going on? >> as of right now, we just talked with the sheriff of saint landrieu perish. the altercation started with a domestic disturbance where a man stabbed two women inside of a house. after that point, a police officer, when he responded to the situation, he was shot. since then the officer has been air lifted for medical, as of right now, they are not too sure as far as the extent of his injuries. they haven't released that information. and after the police officer was shot, the man then drove his vehicle three blocks, ran into a restaurant/gas station where everybody was able to make it out safely. but the man then barricaded humself into a back office with an iron bar and as of right now, the sheriff's department says they are trying to break into that door. they are throwing in tear gas. they can hear coughing and sneezing. right now they are trying to get negotiators, family of the man that can try to convince him to come out and end this. >> john, what, the police officers was air lifted. they don't know anymore about his condition. obviously if he is air lifted, that's not a particularly good sign, other than he is getting quick medical care. but sounds like he is pretty seriously injured. >> as of right now, since they said he was shot, we asked if they could be a little more specific, whether it be chest, torso, leg, what's the case. they said they couldn't release that but that he had to be air lifted. so from that like he said it sounds like it has to be pretty serious. right now all the agencies are keeping a tight mouth about releasing any more information until the suspect is taken out of the building. >> john, thank you very much. and we're hoping the best for that officer tonight. as well as the two stab victims. john, thank you. now back to our other breaking news. we're live from the scene of the double homicide. a tv reporter and her photographer murdered live on the air. short time ago "on the record" ted williams and i we walked the area so we could get a better idea of the scene where allison parker and adam ward were murdered in cold blood. >> this mountain lake is so peaceful and peaceful now. but to think that at 6:25 this morning, it got so violent. >> yeah, greta. the peace and the tranquility of this mountain exploded and it exploded with the depths of two, wonderful reporters that were just trying to do their job. >> you know, but, you know, the thing about the area, is this is a tourist area. i mean, it's a very peaceful lake, but this is a wide open place where they were going to do their report on tourism. and you could even see over here, which is where the scene of the murder is, it's over across the street. it's still sealed off. but you can see that these were just -- these were just stores. people come to go use these beautiful lakes and they get their boats there. they rent their boats. that's what they do here. >> yeah. when you talk to people here, this is the last place that they would have anticipated and expected that their peaceful tranquility would have exploded the way it did this morning. >> the truck is still -- the satellite truck is still there and i have talked to people here. and there is no security here. you don't need the security. i mean, they simply were doing their live report this morning. and you just walk right in. there were no gates. there was nothing. you just walk right in and you do your report on tourism. and the unthinkable happened. >> and the unthinkable, like you said, happened. there is is the big question, initially why? why? but it did happen here, unfortunately. >> ted, a lot of concentration on the two tv journalists who were murdered vicki gardner who is in the hospital tonight, people we talked to. everybody knows her around here. everybody loves her around here. she is a fixture here. >> everybody saying what a wonderful person she is. and what a wonderful person these two reporters were: greta, you kind try to make sense out of this. you and i have been to many of these kind of rodeos, unfortunately. and when we think about it, these two reporters were only doing their job. and they didn't even -- and could not even see it coming, greta. >> you think the unfortunate thing that will probably unfold the next day or two we will find out a lot more about the killer and what signs there were. this guy didn't suddenly wake up today and decide he was going to kill two innocent people and shoot a third. regrettably there is going to be an awful lot of signs. >> we have a 23-page sort of like manifesto that has been put out. that's going to talk about him a lot. he tries to use these racial incidents that have taken place elsewhere. >> people had to know about it that's the problem is that people had to have known about it i'm not blaming the people who didn't shoot at anybody. it's like, you he no, people had to know about it? >> yeah. but these were two innocent victims of circumstance. they was stalked by this guy, as far as i'm concerned. the roanoke station is about 30 miles away from where we had the smith mountain lake and the sad commentary for him to then film it and to publicize the death of these two wonderful people, it's a very sad incident, greta. >> this is just a tourist site. unbelievable, a tourist site with two tv reporters and interviewee. ted, thank you. straight ahead our griff jenkins just spoke to several people who actually know the murder victims. and also we have more on the killer's bizarre manifesto. more live from the scene iny' virginia. mitigating risks across your business. leaving you free to focus on what matters most. sargento people are real cheese people, three generations spanning over 60 years. they don't believe in artificial this or superficial that. they know that in a world of over-processed there's no substitute for a piece of real. real cheese people believe every casserole deserves a shred of authenticity, every sandwich a slice of legit. natural cheese off-the-block, 100% real. sargento, we're real cheese people. yup, we're constantly making thinkorswim better. here at td ameritrade, they're always working. like a custom screener on your desktop, that updates to all your devices. and you can share it with one click. wow. how do you find the time to do all this? 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"on the record" griff jenkins spoke to some of those colleagues. >> when you found out what had happened, were you shocked? did you have any thoughts about it? >> yes and no. there t. was always new working with him. like i said he was capricious. he was very hot and cold and very temperament ive. i know he was very bitter when he was let go here. but to take something to this level, no one -- you could never expect that. >> you know, trevor, you and i were talking because i am a reporter. martin is my photographer, like you, there is a special relationship when you are in tough investigations. people act crazy. so would you say he was on the temperamental side? williams, for that side of scenario, not great with pressure? >> very much so. i think so. just reflecting on certain incidents, you know. you would never expect one to take it to this level, of course, but it's -- he was just a loose cannon, i guess is the best way to describe him. >> and, josh, same question to you. you know, when you found out what had happened, what were your thoughts? >> disbelief. you never want something like this to happen. and i just was in disbelief when i found out who it was. i couldn't -- you know, my interactions with him always thought he had a chip on his shoulder, but never, never thought he would do much about it. >> shane dwyer is one of the reporters here. shane, what are your thoughts? >> you know, it's truly tragic. alison was one of my first friends when i moved here. i just graduated in 2014. new reporter coming out. i was nervous when i came out. she sent a huge long email places i should check out for living. she was wonderful. she didn't know me. she didn't know who i was. she took so much time out of her day to do that and, friends. we were close friends. she -- her desk is inside next to me. and i had my own personal thing where i don't wish people happy birthday over social media or facebook or text if i know i'm going to see them. i knew eventually i was going to see allison. i knew it would be a couple days after when i wished her a happy late birthday. i never got the chance to do that. >> heart break, too. she had a very promising relationship too. what you can tell me about that. sitting next to her you must have insight. >> she was one of the top notch reporters here. even when we were hanging out. she got off and we sometimes would hang out in two hours in between. grab lunch. she was always working on what she needed to do. making calls. always had her head in what she needed to do as a professional. always thinking about what is going to do the best for me. what is going to be the best for the station and what is going to be the best for how she can serve pee people here. this is where she grew up in martinsville had 5 minutes down the road in our viewing area. people watch her. it's indescribable. i mean, people know her. that's the one good thing about our station is i'm the new buys, even being here a year. people know faces. they know people for a long time. and viewers get very connected to people very quickly because they see that face every morning. and just to have that happen on air and for alisyn to have to go through that and our viewers to have to see that as well. it's really tough. >> how are you doing? this looks like it's hard for you. >> it is

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