Transcripts For FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Suster

5 30 a. M. At this facility, the two cells which were adjoining each other were empty. Search revealed that there was a hole cut out of the back of the cell through which these inmates escaped. Went on to a catwalk which is about six stories high. We estimate they climbed down and had power tools and were able to get out of this facility through tunnels cutting their way in several spots. I appreciate very much that the governor is here today. He actually walked to the cells to see firsthand the holes that were drilled in the back of the cells. He went to the catwalk to see their route of escape. He went counsel to the portions where they were able to cut through a steam pipe at both ends and finally he ended up on the street in the manhole cover. They left things in their bunks that looked like they were in the bunk and they were sleep. They werent actual dummies but they had clothing on and it looked like people sleeping in the bunks with a sweatshirt hoody on which is quiet usual in terms of an inmate who is sleeping. If you walk by the cell, you apparently see someone in the covers with a sweatshirt on. David lee miller is outside the prison in dana marah new york. The other thing cuomo said the prison break put the state in a crisis situation. The tranquility of this adirondack Mountain Community has now been shattered. The inmates as you mentioned are among the most vicious that are housed at this maximum security prison. Both of them convicted murderers. Richard matt is serving it 5 to life for murdering and dismembering his former boss. David sweat fired 22 times killing a sheriffs deputy and stealing a deputys gun. He is serving life without parole. Both of these men arguably have very little to lose it now seems increasingly likely that the men received help in their escape. Authorities will not confirm published reports that a female civilian employee at the prison might have been an accomplice. The state Police Though will say that they are now questioning employees and inmates. But somehow the inmates got their hands on those power tools that we just heard mentioned and used those tools to cut through a steel wall as well as a number of other items. Authorities say the tool was brought in from the outside. The former a former worker at the prison who was a maintenance employee says the two men must have been provided with either blueprints or schematics or else they could not possibly have navigated the maize of catwalks and steam pipes that they used to shimmy through to make their way to freedom. If the men had help as so many believe including new yorks governor, the question now do they also get assistance with transportation once they were on the the outside . Greta, they have now been free for at least 600 hours and with each passing minute catching them is only going to become more difficult. New yorknew york state is now offering an unprecedented 100,000 reward for information leading to their apprehension. Authorities say they have now received some 300 tips, but at this hour, greta these two men could be just about anywhere. Back to you. David, thank you. They also could have split up by this point. And clinton is a maximum security prison supposed to be escapeproof, how did two dangerous killers escape . Authorities investigating obvious question did they get help and did they get that help from the inside of that prison . Prison employee being questioned as a possible accomplice. Jessi mckinley joins us. Who is this woman that they are talking to . Well, its unclear as of yet. There is a lot of rumor and innuendo going around. What there is suggested that there is inappropriate relationship between the Woman Working at the prison and one of the inmates richard matt of the two men escaped probably considered the more vicious and more dangerous killer of the two. If they have in order to get out of there they had a couple of things that they had to happen. Hide that they were leaving. Counts in the prison every certain number of hours put the bundle in their bed to throw off the dog on that. Tools and schematic and plan. Somebody gave them the tools and schematic and plans. That doesnt get brought in a cake like a knife. Absolutely. One the open questions here is how they got the tools. Obviously one of the leading theories right now is that there is a lot of construction in the prison. The prison is a very old facility and that perhaps a contractor either intentionally or unintentionally left behind the tool that allowed them to cut the hole through the wall. In addition they managed to make very precise cuts in the steam pipes that they called through. In talking to people that do this professionally. They say it was unlike delay someone who didnt working knowledge of the tool would be able to make such a clean cut. Once they got pipe, manhole about a thousand feet from here. Managed to cut the lock out oof the manhole and exit out of that hole. All in all this was a fairly so he sophisticated operation that required not only the knowledge of the tools but the ability to use them. They have 60 hour jump right now on everybody. Been on the loose about 60 hours is is there any information about how long it took for them to cut through this . Was this something they have been doing for possibly days or weeks or is this they just started cutting and ran . The governor strongly suggested that this was not obviously an overnight operation. This wasnt something that they cooked up, you know, one evening and decided to do. This probably took weeks to plan. It may have taken weeks to actually perpetrate. In addition, there seems to be some evidence that the escape route may have been basically laid out in advance schematic. Not something that they willynilly decided to do. Jesse, thank you very much. Who are these violent fugitives and how dangerous are they . First order of business is to get these killers back because thats what they are, they are killers. They both were in for murder. One of them killed a deputy sheriff. And one of them killed a former employee and dismembered him these are really bad actors and they are dangerous and we want to get them back. We taken the unusual step of the state offering 100,000 reward. We have a toll free number 11800givetip. These are dangerous people. They are identifiable. They have tattoos. We urge people to look at the pictures of them. If they have any information, please send it to us. Both inmates are serving time for murder one has a sentence of life without parole. Ther is serving 25 to life for murder in the second degree. The one who serve something life without parole is named david sweat he is he male he was born in june of 1980. 511 156 pounds. Second individual richard matt was born june 25th 1966. He is 6foot and weighs 210 pounds. And with the prison only miles from the canadian border, one huge question tonight, did the fugitives get out of country. U. S. Customs and border assistant commissioner for u. S. Customs and commission joins us. Nice to see you sir. Nice to see you greta dedicating helicopter full fulltime to new York State Police for search. Asked for additional helicopter support in one of our black hawk helicopters to support special response teams. Increasing manpower at checkpoints and canines and in our Field Operations which controls our ports of entry has under our outbound inspections and increased our whole security level and heightened awareness and also alerted canadian authorities the Security Association and the rcn. Native american area up there. Tribal region and can the u. S. Border patrol enter that area . County new york and the Police Troops . Its like a nation of itself in some instances do you know if it is there . The Border Patrol has normally close cooperation with the tribal authorities and thats how we work in those areas up there im not aware of the specifics up there in new york itself. Do i know you normally have good cooperation with the tribal authorities. Do you know how far this prison is from the border . No, i do not trying to think whether they can walk across. I imagine its quiet porous in that area. We patrol the area. The Border Patrol does and they do that they are very good at tracking people on the ground. The border is big and hard to cover. I suspect that every single car thats going across is getting extra inspection trunks, everything more than just high how are you welcome back to the United States . Nice to see you . Yes. The Field Operation operations people have heightened outbound inspections and im sure they are doing much heavier duty job of inspections. These two men have nothing to lose. Worried about Border Patrols if they run into Border Patrol. Going through a check point they have nothing to lose agents are trained well. Interest v. To requalify four times a year. I dont doubt that theyre highly trained the problem is if you walk up to car and smiling passenger and all of a sudden you surprised. Its a very dangerous job being Border Patrol. It is dangerous and heightened awareness helps but there is inherent danger. Im told its 20 miles to the border frankly in 60 hours you could walk that one who knows they could be any place. Sir thank you very much for joining us. Thank you greta. Disturbing new video of the moment the police and fbi shoot and kill rahim the man accused of plotting to behead an American Police officer. The Boston School of joins us. Nice to he see you. I understand the video. Video shows its grainy video. There is no sound on it filmed as at a burger king. How public this is. Its a parking lot. School bus goes by. It does show the encounter between mr. Rahim and Law Enforcement officials. Its hard to tell some behalf transpires but toward the end it appears that mr. Rahim sort of lungs at one of the officers and then it appears that he is shot. Is there any is there a period where rahim has anything in his hand at all whether its a weapon or flashlight or pack of cigarettes or anything . Its really hard to tell. The family has issued a statement that says you cant tell. There is nothing in his hand. They go up and retrieve something from mr. Ha rah hermine from his hand. Presumably they have. From the videotape it is hard to tell what he he actually has in his hand. In the Statement Issued Byron Sullivan on behalf of the family it says they are disappointed that the media wasnt shown the entire video, that its not just a few seconds of confrontation. I mean, was the media shown the entire video he . Where is the entire video and if they werent shown the entire video, how come . Its hard to tell. There is only a portion of the video that has been released publicly. And that portion shows mr. Rahim initially. He leaves the shot and you are not able to see him fully at that point. Later you see the Law Enforcement officials surrounding him. Their complaint is that the full video should be released that full video was shown to the family and it was shown to Community Leaders last week. All right. Well pretty wise to show the entire video to the media so everyone isnt suspicious why didnt they show the whole video. Matt, thank you. Thank you. And protests breaking out in texas. Outrage as this video goes viral. [shouting] individualio showing a Police Officer forcing a teenager to the ground. Natalie is in mckinney, texas. Natalie, narrate what happened when you look at this video. What happened there . All right. Well, what we see is officer arriving on scene. That video actually shot by a 15yearold who was at the party with a friend of his. His name is brandon brooks. He captured that viral cell phone video. He and his friend heard about the party on twitter. He says things began to escalate when that fight broke out between the Party Promoter an africanamerican teenager and an adult white woman. Now, according to several accounts the woman told the girl to go back to section 8 housing. Police arrived shortly after that fight broke out. Corporal and that is when we see him take down 15yearold beckden. Most of the kids at this pool were from the neighborhood and that he never imagined he would see an draw his weapon. I was scared someone was going to get shot and possibly killed. So i knew i had to keep on filming like because like thats i got really scared when he pulled out his gun. Corporal said his behavior and language were in sharp contrast to the other officers. The officer did not try to detain him or his friend. Both were standing close by he thinks because both boys are white. Some residents say it is what you do not see on camera that may help explain corporals response. One man we talked to says that the kids were running all over the place. That they were not complying with the officers. Even cussing at police. We do know that one man was arrested for interference evading arrest. Everyone else has since been released. Greta . Natalie. Pool party if this fight broke up and the police show up and everybody is scatters and runs, wasnt it over at that point . Everyone wanted to get out of there right . Thats exactly right. When we talked to brandon brooks. He said that things were already starting to dispercent. Kids were on the way out. They see Police Arrive the first thing they want to do is get home and get out of there. Thats when the corporal starts yelling at them and telling them to sit down. According to brooks, the officer was singling out the africanamerican kids. He does say and he admits that the kids did try to walk away even after the officer told them to sit down. I asked him if he thought that that might have prompted even more anger from this officer. And he said, you know, probably so. All right. But at the time the Police Arrived. The core fight between the two women that was either wenting or dissipated and people were just leaving . Is that a fair description of it . Thats yes. Based on what we have heard. That fight had already come to an end. Between a teenage girl and an adult woman. Those two people were still in that area, as far as we know, because one of the girls was a promoter. Her parents were with her at that party as well. But, yes it sounds as if that fight had had alreadyended. Police showed up. Maybe, you know, in the seconds or minutes after. But that things were already dissipating and kids were on their way home. Natalie, thank you. Reverend al sharpton being called a pimp by another pastor. That pastor joins us. If you fly or know everyone that does you need to sit right where you are. New information about the tsa that will send chills up you total your brand new car. Nobodys hurt,but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do, drive threequarters of a car . 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You have police out here, you know, keep drugs murdering, definitely need to be out here. It just gets worse and worse without them out here. I dont see a whole lot of Police Presence. I think its nice for them to be out here in the neighborhood. The Community Still feels as though its under siege. With the Police Presence here i think a lot of this crime all the drugs the murder will stop. There is a an underlying fear that Police Officers are not here. They dont see Police Officers as much as they want to see them out here and they are very concerned. Lack of Police Presence. One thing about it all police aint bad. Got good police out here and whatnot. Im going to support them as long as they are doing their job. Chaos in baltimore. Any ideas how to stop it . A former lawyer with the Justice Department who wants to run for the United States senate from maryland in the Republican Party says he has an idea. Chris joins us. Nice to see you sir. Greta thanks on. What we just saw citizens in Baltimore City cant see the American Dream because they are stuck in a nightmare. It liars a fix and we need a new direction. How do you do that because we have seen the fires, we have seen the cars lit on fire. Cvs raided a lot of dissension there. For 30 years we have seen a lot of those problems, nothing new. People in Baltimore City have lived under basically a war zone. I have experience at the Justice Department working to expand the circle of quality and opportunity. Working for governor bob erlich, thats why we are getting off the sidelines and taking a serious look a