flight 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. 17 days after the malaysian airlines 777 vanished the prime minister telling the world the results of an unprecedented study of satellite data. now, the data, according to the prime minister, showing the jet's last position was in the middle of the indian ocean. >> this is a remote location far from any possible landing sites. it is therefore with deep sadness and regret that i must inform you that according to this new data, like -- flight mh 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. from malaysia to beijing absolute pure anguish. the grieving families of 237 families grieving and crying uncontrollably after hearing the news. >> but today's news only deepances the what happened to 370. no part of the plane has been recovered and we are all assuming those satellite images to be accurate. we still do not know who or what may have brought down that plane or even why. some answers could be in that black box thought to be thousands and thousands of feet below the surface of the indian ocean. the race, of course, is on to find it the u.s. navy sending a ping locater and underwater drone to help. that's not all. chinese family members are enraged at the malaysian government and airline calling them the true murderers of the plane's victims. accusing them of hiding facts. for the very latest "u.s.a. today" reporter is live in koala lumpur. what is is the latest in malaysia? >> the latest in terms of the families that they are grieving, they are hysterical. the last we saw they were crying and screaming and holding on to each other. and a father of one of the flight engine on board told me this is not enough what the malaysian government, what the malaysian prime minister announced is simply not enough that the government has to find the plane and the government has to find the body of the son. he says that he is grieving. he is will at some point think that this is faded in order for him to move on he needs the government to it find the body of his son. >> mahi, in china, some of the chinese relatives are accusing the airline of being true murderers is the term we are being told in some news account. is there distrust of the malaysian airliner. are they showing them any of the satellite imagery? >> the thing is that from day one malaysia has come out with contradictory statements. saying something and recanting it hours later. malaysia has a history of suppressing information. it is not a government which has been open about giving out information. and that has led to lot of suspicion distrust of the government of information being fed out. that is one of the main reasons why the families of the chinese nationals accused the malaysian government, when he family called him murderous. until today there is this distrust. they do not really believe mamma labor has give them everything or told them everything. they still believe that the malaysian government is hiding something. >> mahi, thank you. the search still intense. the mystery may lie deep in the southern indian ocean. possible and i emphasize possible debris. grn reporter is live in sydney with the latest. >> what has changed that the prime minister is so certain came out and claimed that the plane is in the indian ocean. more satellite imagery or shown this satellite imagery to anybody? >> two factors, we have the information from the british satellite company, which is further annualized the data they have recorded some time ago. they have come to definitive conclusion. they say the plane plunged into the southern indian ocean. in addition to that we still have continual sizing of debris. the latest debris was spotted yesterday our time. rectangular object. orange rectangular object and around and gray green looking object. these were spotted by air. unfortunately there was no sort of other contact with them. but the british, rather, the australian naval vessel is in that area and hopes to identify those objects in the next few hours. once daylight breaks. so we should have some kind of evidence one way or the other whether this debris is linked to the missing airliner. >> roger, if i understand you correctly, the debris that they saw by air and that -- so that we would have photographs from the air, camera not by satellite images, were pictures taken by a camera on the plane so that can be at least shown to some of the -- those who are suffering so and who doubt this report? >> i have certainly not seen any pictures this is purely made by comments made to the australian parliament last night by prime minister tony abbot. there presumably is some kind of photographic evidence but it may not have been published yet. those shapes that apparent debris found in the search area does look pretty convincing by the sound of it. and certainly the australian naval vessel is very close to that site and will be able to make contact with it and bring it on to the deck of their boat when they find it. >> roger, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> and time is running out for those batteries in those black boxes. the boxes hold what may be the only clues to what really happened on board flight 370. the u.s. believing believing to the ocean is sending two pieces of equipment to the hunt. colleen joins us. what is it that the u.s. is sending it try to recover the black box? >> the u.s. is sending means to do both passive and active detection of these underwater locater beacons. the passive detection is a fish or hydro phone that we drag through the water that can detect the beacon's ping passively by just listening up to 1 to 2 miles away. the active component of this detection system is submersible. unmanned submersible sonar sends acoustic signals out and can map a wreckage field if they come across it. >> to break it down further, one is ears, listening for the ping and the others is eyes looking for something at the bottom? >> correct. >> all right. now, i guess the task is quite daunting. these numbers, this area is huge. do we only have one of each or because we are running out of time at least to hear the ping, do other countries have these? can we get more out there? >> i believe the u.s. has two. we use two during the air france search. we loaned them to the french agency that was conducting the search. that's two toad ping locaters. there are various kind of unmanned vehicles that can do this kind of search. but the u.s. navy is only sending a single platform. >> any idea how deep it is in this huge expanse of area? and i suppose it's different, different places. how much water are we talking about? >> i think i have heard anywhere from 10 to 15,000 feet deep, which is about what we were looking at for the middle of the atlantic for air france 447. >> and, in terms of the -- the pinger, we are told it's a month, maybe has a little extra battery life we might have another week or so on it. >> yeah. if we got lucky, we would see 40 days. the manufacturers will tell you behind the curtain that 40 days they have seen that but really the specs say it will only be 30 days. so we are really running out of time. about two weeks from now. >> we call it the black box. is it really black or is that brighter bolder color so that maybe it can be seen? is it black. >> no. of course not there has been pictures all over the news. it's bright orange and labeled exactly what it is, flight data recorder or cockpit voice recorder on the outside. if you see a picture of it, you can actually see a little cigar shaped beacon attached to the edge that is the beacon that we are trying to hear, the pinger. >> it's actually on our screens so the viewers can see it it. it used to be a black box. it's been changed. do you this for a living. i'm curious, what are the odds on this? is this really as difficult as it may look, as it does look? >> well, i heard today a report that u.s. surveillance planes searched 100,000 square miles today, which is astronomically big. by compare sob, the air france search containment area was a 40 nautical mile radius circle. if you do the math, that comes out to about 5,000 square nautical miles. you tell me. they have got to be right on top of it to find it. >> and i suppose right on top of it, the black box could maybe be one place and then cure rents could move other debris to sort of move us really far off target in terms of finding it. >> that's true. but we have a method to reverse drift the debris back to the location where it entered the water. unfortunately, without knowing the current very precisely. it's imprecise science and it will give us a big search area even after we do that calculation. >> colleen, thank you. >> thank you. >> and malaysia airlines taking heat for texting today's disturbing news to some of the passengers' families. in the text, malaysia airlines saying it deeply regrets that we have to assume, beyond a reasonable doubt that flight 370 has been lost and none on board has survived. we now must accept all evidence suggests the plane went down in the southern indian ocean. jason bellini joins us. nice to see you back. >> thanks, greta. >> some people are deeply disturbed. i thought it was quite cold to text but i had a little different view later. what's been the reaction to hearing this news news those that weren't there. >> perhaps no way to get news like this. american school teachner beijing whose partner was on this flight. she said she got the text just minutes before. then you have other people who were in that hotel in beijing where they were there together reacting emotionally to this. and they are really frustrated because they are not satisfied with just getting satellite data as a pronouncement of death of their families members. >> which is a little different issue. first is the manner having the texting. and, you know, actually, i think, you know, for some people, everyone grieves so differently and wants information so differently. might be you can receive it in private rather than a big room of people. some may like it. the second issue is how convincing is the information and all we have right now is the prime minister saying that it is, right? they have not shown anything to these people. >> that's right. and we also learned that there was nothing further for those people in that hotel ballroom in china. no further information from the airline. now, in terms the reaction many of these people were holding on to hope that this was a hijacking situation and the malaysian prime minister really poured cold water on that information saying there is no landing strip in this area where that possibly could have landed the plane. >> can you just see the grief of these people. it's unthinkable, isn't it? they have had, you know, two weeks plus they are tired. their loved ones are its inning. now they get this ugly news. i don't know if there is any right way to tell them, is there or any perfect way? >> such a difficult situation. and people are spread out across the globe. some people in india. some family members in the united states. how do you get all the messages at once. maybe there is no better way but they wanted to make sure that people heard about this before they found -- before they saw the press conference on the news with all this intense media interest in this story, that's been a real challenge for the malaysia authorities, for malaysia airlines as well. >> if they had gotten the information out sooner and some of the other things not looked like they were dragging their feet, they wouldn't have such a bad relationship with these people as is. jason, thank you. >> thanks, greta. >> the flight 370 ended in the indian ocean only raises more questions. assuming the latest news is correct, we still don't know, what brought down the 777 if it was a mechanical failure, should would he be worried about what is considered a very safe type of jumbo jet? joining us our panel of experts. matt robinson, keith maguire and hank whitmore. hank, you have not thought it went down in the indian ocean. let me ask you tonight, do you accept what the prime minister said or are you still suspicious? >> well, the only thing i'm suspicious of is there doesn't seem to be a lot of facts that correlate and this seems a bit like a theory out of just they pulled out of the air. i have been trying to research it today and i still can't see any good reason for it. >> keith, your thoughts? i mean, i know that you have investigated these before. this is, you know, the relatives want a little bit more. i realize we don't have any debris to show them. but, your thoughts on this report today? >> well, to me, i think what's happening with the investigation is going into a different phase. every investigation starts out you are gathering the data. you are hoping those data points lead to you a conclusion. but it's almost like the as a kid you would have connect the dots. they don't come with numbers on them. they start looking at the dots and saying how do we connect these? you find out you can connect them 47 different ways and that's a little frustrating because none of the pictures forms is not satisfactory. so they just have to back off and say okay, either need to take a different approach to this or try to get more data or both what the, do you accept the statement that the satellite data now shows more conclusively or probably whatever the terms are that this is at the bottom of the indian ocean or do you want to see more? as an investigator i always want to see more. investigators use tried and true methodologies and procedures. that's based on years and years of experience and crashes and investigating these. but we are always looking for new ways to hone our skills to improve and expedite this process. so, i would always like to see more and that's going to continue on with positively identifying this wreckage, the debris, and then finding it at the bottom of the ocean. >> hank, anything peculiar about the 777? flew it for a long time. almost 20 years old. everybody loves it but these design defects can surface sometimes unexpectedly, mechanical problem or hostage takeover or anything. anything odd about this plane to you? >> no. it's an excellent airplane. some of the philosophy of the way it's built is a lot different from -- prior to the 757 the thing that troubles me about the fire on board or the idea this is the most unlikely airplane to have a fire on board that can't be managed. it doesn't sound like the lithium concern me. there has been problems with those, no doubt. it doesn't sound like it was a tremendous, you know, large amount of lithium batteries on it. and they did have approved containers from what i have heard. of the faa is content with that or has been in the past. that's something i would like to hear more about, if someone investigates it i would like it hear their spin on it. >> we are certainly hoping that we're able to find the debris and get more information. gentlemen, thank you. >> thank you, greta. and straight ahead. president bill clinton disagreeing with president obama and senator tim scott agrees with one of those two presidents. which one and what's the fuss about? senator tim scott goes "on the record" next. plus, i will go off o00 record. and we're also following breaking news. more than 100 people missing. and new reports that the death toll is rising. that's after a deadly mudslide that just tore through washington state. we have a live report coming up. iprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you outlive your money? 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"wall street journal" all raising significant and major concerns about the timing and the turning over of what we think really has a lot to do with freedom of speech to some unknown body. we are really talking about turk something -- turning something over to who we don't know. what controls they will have we have no clue. what the level of freedom of speech and the definition of freedom of speech we don't understand. freedom of speech is oftentimes seen as a truly american ideal. >> i guess i go back to why in the world would president obama be -- have a view different from "the washington post, the "wall street journal," whoever else. >> president clinton. heritage. >> what's to gain for him by turning this over? >> i think perhaps the only thing i could think of is in a global economy, having a desire to bring more partners to the table seems to be part of that decision-making process. >> what do we get out of it? >> i think we get nothing out of it. that's why i'm in strong opposition to the move and timing of the move. this is like you have got to pass the bill to know what's in it. >> can he do this himself or does he have to go through progress? >> the congress committee right now is going through the process of trying to find a way to slow this process down. >> do it by executive order by pen. >> pen and a phone. >> he can do it. >> seems like it. >>