other. >> i like hillary clinton and i respect her. >> i know bernie, i respect his enthusiastic and intense advocacy of his ideas. >> all that respect drained the drama from the cnn face off. >> breathless chat are about the player who is not going to be in. is the speculation out of the control? >> everyone was wrong about kevin mccarthy becoming house of representatives speaker and some are peddling trashy rumors. >> here comes kevin mccarthy, looks like he will be the next speaker. >> he is the levee favorite right now. >> kevin mccarthy sending shockwaves through washington. >> there is a huge shock, a bombshell that no one saw coming. >> this is not anything that i ever thought i would report to you. >> shocking. i am howard kurtz and this is "media buzz." it has been three month since i sat downtown with donald trump and he outlasted the doom and gallon and dominated the coverage of the race. i spoke to the front runner at truck tower. >> welcome, donald trump. >> you say again and again that most political journalists are dishonest in the way they cover you. why do you think that? >> there is great dishonesty in the media. i did not see it to the same extent with the financial media i have only been a politician for three months. they don't want to cover me accurately. i see such dishonesty. they have a couple of sites like "politico", totally dishonest. it is unbelievably. >> you tweeted about them the other day. why doesn't someone do something about the clowns and they are dishonestly reporting and called them "pure scum." they are dishonest. i would say they write things that are not true. they never even call us. they carely call. they will say things that are unbelievably wrong purposefully and estimate the size of a crowd as being a small fraction because everything i do i sell out. you know the clouds as well as i do. we had 20,000 people the other day in oklahoma. we had 35,000 in alabama. saw that deliberate? >> totally. someone said they are liberal. i don't know. i know nothing about them. i hear they are losing a lot of money and maybe that is true, maybe not. "politico" is dishonest. the "washington post" is anding because they started to capture my campaign. it has been very interesting. the "washington post" has been ...bob costas is very professional. i find "new york times" is very mixed. i have some fabulous, maggie is great but some are like, where do the stories come from. >> "new york times" generating buzz, donald trump seems to be wearing out the welcome. >> the reporter wanted an interview and we were going to set it up. it is hard to do all the interviews and they have apologized for it as the reporter wants to do another story because it was wrong. maybe without the story, o'reilly, the same, greta, the same, hannity, the same, getting bigger ratings. >> you have a few go arounds with them, and richard on cnn and it seems to is to do with polls that prefer polls based on program dome calls showing you way away. other polls which are less scientific show you could be more ahead s that a legitimate disagreement? >> nbc does a poll and cnn does a poll and i am leading in both but nbc is better and i am on "today," show and they showed the cbs poll. >> it was on-line? >> i don't know. i am interviewed by nbc and the poll came out and i was at 29 percent or 30 percent and lead by a lot and on cnn i was leading but not so good and nbc used the cnn poll and i said, not a lot of people do this, i wondered why they did not use their own poll? at the same time, there have been people and o'reilly is tough as hell but he is from and fair. i don't mind being criticized if i deserve it but a couple of people on fox that are brutal for nor reason. >> conservative commentators may disagree with you. >> i am not talking about that. >> i was surprise the on cnn you were asked, are you a homophobe and he said some people could perceive you as racist. is that a fair question? >> i was not bothered but that. i said you are more racist than i am looking at him and it was very fair. i found him to be fair. i find him to be fair. i find many of the people to be incredibly talented and generally fair. the people i don't find to be fair, the pundits, anchors like me maybe because they want me on the show, those that are but dallas come from nowhere and they have, although i must see many of them are coming around, when i started, nobody thought i would do it. after i difficulty, they said he will never file. i niled. it went on like that. >> you still get that. >> not so much. >> you were beating up on the sleepy eyes who turned more positive and how does this affect european journalists? >> i did not thing he was fair initially. i was a november insurance. i have only been doing this for three months but i have been at the top for three months when i am compared with a man i like, herman cain or with michele bachmann who i also like. they were there one week. i have been there from the going. a long time. it has been a long run but chuck todd has been fair. >> now government spending. conservative tax foundation said your plan would cost $10 trillion. i know you dispute that you say you do not want to touch social security, medicare, medicaid but together they are $1.7 trillion which is half the federal budget. i know you want to go after waste fraud and abuse but you slash taxes and put half the budget as sacrosanct you will blow a whole. >> but we will take our jobs back from china, we will take our jobs back from japan. i am the only one can do this. others have no clue. >> but there is math involved. >> do you know how main jobs we have lost to other consults where they ripped us like we are babies? we will bring back our jobs and our manufacturing back. look, as an example, social security, medicare, you are signing up for social security that is a lifetime, your contract. you signed that contract. it is there. if you cannot do anything about it but in my case i can because i'm going to grow the economy to a level that no one thought possible and i will bring all of our jobs back. that is what --. >> you are saying "trust me," i can do this but you look at hard numbers as the economists it is hard to have it automatic, cut back, increase spending, protect spending with the big entitlements. >> i am doing well because i built a tremendous company. i started off with a father who was great but he was from brooklyn, queens. you understand, it is different. people say my father was a massive real estate guy and it was beautiful little company. but it was a different time. >> i took a small beautiful little company started by my father and i gained tremendous knowledge from my father because he was a great negotiators and i built it into a massive company that is worldwide and we sit here on 5th avenue in the best location in the world, 57th and 50 avenue and i is done a good job. without doing that good job, and without doing such a great job, ten times better than anyone thought but without doing their job you would not have the same credibility to say this. i am saying i will take jobs back from china and all of these countries that have ripped this country off. >> on the question where you have been counter punching against marco rubio criticizing him. what you have said about the senator is he does not have much money. is being a middle class guy trying to raise kids opposed to having your name on a building, is that a qualification? >> no, but he has tremendous credit card problems and he is weak on immigration, illegal immigration. as far as he is concern asked the gang of eight was a disaster. he was friends with chuck schumer. >> but he is not in your >> he has not handled his financial affairs. you look at the credit cards and his problems. you have to remember, he started with me. he was very mice and two weeks ago he started hitting me. everyone that has hit me has gone way down in the polls. it is weird. i hope that translates into running a country. >> you have not spoken much about general public. is he no longer a threat. >> he is a nice person. i went after him at going because he went after me, at the beginning, and he is out there pitching and i cannot tell you what will happen. when i started, i was never going to run according to the pundits and jeb bush had it made, rand paul had it made and the governor of wisconsin, walker, a very nice guy; he is gone. they were the ones that were going to one, one of those three. it is not looking like that. >> a few weeks ago you got into it with ben carson making a nasty comment and later apologized. it seems like you have a mutual nonaggression pact with ben carson. >> i like him. he is a nice man. >> but i don't know that he will be the guy to negotiate with china which i do all the time. the largest bank in the world from china is in this building right above you. they pay me a lot of represent, i have made great deals with china and i own a big chuck of the bank of america in san francisco and i got it from china. i outbid them so...negotiating is a great art and a great talent and --. >> are you questioning ben carson's ability to be president? >> i don't question anything, i respect him and i like him a lot and he made a statement about me and he withdrew it immediately, saying he misspoke. he said the express convinced him to make that statement. >> he said it to me. >> he when i interviewed him said it was a mistake to take the reporter's question and he apologized. >> honestly that show as great thing, he was able to withdrawal. now i can't go wild, i am saying i wish he hit me. he is very smart. he has to hit me. >> "new york times" temperatures me it is not aware of anyone apologizing to trump over his dwindling media appeal and it is good and fair and "politico" c.e.o. said our journalism business performance is amazing, fabulous, total winners we are making american journalism great again. what do you think of the media coverage of donald trump and our energy? san me a note on twitter. donald trump on a rock. just how much did he oppose the war? and later with kevin mccarthy bowing out as the speaker's race some are painting this as a republican armageddon and we will show you what donald trump said about the come of his wife melania. want bladder leak underwear that moves like you do? 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>> i opposed it all the time. >> do you have a record? >> probably. you have to understand when i opposed it i was a business guy. >> you were not required to make a public statement. >> i wasn't a politician. but it was lucky i found a big article in reuters in 2004 in july headline "trump only posed the war." and two years before that i opposed it because i said it wrote destabilize the middle east and iran will take over. those fought for years, for years, iran and iraq. >> i do not question your feelings --. >> look, it made sense. when the world trade center was knocked down, they did not send their families back to iraq they sent their families to saudi arabia. >> you agree it is easier to be publicly critical of the war when it was a quagmire? >> you saw my statements when the war was a hot thing and everyone was for it including hillary clinton and the bushes and everyone else, everyone, i'm the only one opposed to it. i am more militaristic than anyone on the dias but you have to know when to use it. we don't know what we are doing. our military is in shambles. the general who just retired is a very good man, said we are the least prepared in the history of our country militarily. that was a pretty big statement. it did not get much coverage. that is amazing. he said we are the least prepared. that is a terrible statement now because i think we have just about bigger problems now than ever before. we will do a great job. if i get the opportunity to serve, we will do a where job and i will do it with zero dollars. i told someone the other day, they said do you want the money and i said absolutely not. aside from funding my own campaign this is not profitable. i am funding my own and i want nothing. >> the press want haywire when you said if your numbers go south you will go back toibilities you were state the obvious but a lost commentator whose said he will bail out soon he was just flirting. what is your reaction? >> i was asked, is this any time that you would get out? i understand that question. rather than saying, for instance, if you asked rand paul or one of these guys, if you ask one of them, they will say absolutely not and two weeks later they get out. i said, look, chuck, if for any reason i do terribly, if you don't call me and howie doesn't call, i am dying, i will get out. it is a headline, trump made me leave -- that is unfair. my wife thought it was an amazing answer because you don't hear the answer. i gave a truthful answer. >> i say i am not get out, i will win it and i am not getting out. okay? >> i asked donald trump a more personal question which we will have later in the program. >> carly fiorina accused the "washington post" of being out to get her and the press pounces on a story of joe biden and a heartrending story that was leaked aby icksilver card from capital one likes to keep it simple. real simple. i'm talking easy like-a- walk-in-the-park, nothing-to-worry-about, man-that-feels-good simple. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. it's a simple question. what's in your wallet? 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>> it is interesting he feels he is a victim of media because there has been a lot of critiques the media is what kept the campaign afloat. he has not lacked coverage. he is right when he said he has not been treated hike a regular candidate. the media has perceive he is not a regular candidate and treated him as more of a celebrity. that is a double edge sword. live by the sword, die by the swore. you do not have to buy the tv ads but when people get bored you have to create a spectacle to get in the news which is what he is doing. >> "new york times" piece is saying that media are getting bored and i am not seeing that. he is everywhere this week and it is a double edge sword that all of the coverage for people who do not like him, those knocks are saying we have him on tv all time and he feels as he said a lot of the coverage of him is dishonest and you press him on specifics and he talks about polls and crowds. >> he does not like it when he gets tough questions on substancive issues which is when he diverts the discussion there have been attempts by the print media, to cover him the way you would cover a regular candidate. look at background, dig into the report, look at conflicting statements he has made in the past. do what you did on iraq and press him, can he prove he was where he said he was. he does not like that. he would rather be talking about his poll numbers, picking fights with people, starting feuds saying "politico", they are terrible. the political at "politico" do not know what they did to make him so angry but he has to be in the mode of constantly fighting. >> why think he minds tough questions but he feels deeply he is not getting a fair shake from the media and most politic are used to taking knocks from the media. he has been a politician for three months as he points out. and now the "washington post" story on carly fiorina about her 2010 california senate race saying that she did not pay off a lot of debt to republican doors and staff and contractors. not until some years ago and she took exception to that and here she is with megyn kelly. >> is it true did you not pay off the debt? >> no, the debt has been paid off which of course the "washington post" fails to mention entirely. the facts are not what the "washington post" is into anymore. they never did write that article about hillary clinton's debt, 40 times the amount carried over many years. i don't recall any outrage about that by rachel. >> does she have a legitimate beef? >> if you read the "washington post" article it says she paid off the debt about when she was getting ready to launch her presidential campaign. the "washington post" article mentioned the debt of hillary clinton but the difference is when carly fiorina had the campaign debt she paid herself back first and left all of the vendors high and dry for years and years and one is a grieving widow and you should pay back the greening window. >> but, at the same time, many losing campaigns have debt for years and i do think the tone of the piece was negative. it is fair game, absolutely, but at the same time it is also fair to say i did not see a front page story about hillary clinton not paying off debt. now, ben carson because he is getting hammered by the media this week. it is not the first week it has happened saying on "fox & friends" if he faced a mass shooter like the tragedy in oregon he would try to get everyone to attack the gunman and not just stand in i would say, everyone attack him. are the media making too much of that? >> it is that and the comparison to nazi germany which is