0 have been bashing obama care for a long time. but this week, it was the washington press core that led the rollout. >> the problem here is that it's one false promise after another and that could be a big problem. >> that's just like after katrina, the big problem president bush had was to say, hey, way to go, brownie. maybe they were at war is a better analogy. >> katrina, a rock, that tells you all you need to know. and it seems tos can late after president obama promised to fix the program and recited that 800 number. insurances led by the "new york times" and washington post have been unearthing more details of this fiasco. what do we make of this coverage? joining us now, lauren ashburn. kirsten powers, and alley holmes, anchor of real news on we're seeing it in the business section, in the health care section, in the technology section. yet on thursday when the house held its first hearing when the four contractors said we did a good job and the other people screwed up, the president came out and gave remarks about immigration reform, how he wants it to appear. the cameras went from the hearing, covering the president, everyone went back to the hearing. did that work? >> president obama is trying to change the subject. he's trying to shift to political ground that he thinks is more favorable to him and to the democratic party. frankly, it's not working. >> there is a fight that has broken out among liberal commentators. joan chided to her fellow liberals who has been critical of the rollout, the headlines was liberal pundit failed, rush to attack obama site only aids unhinged right. what do you make of the fact that some liberals are saying other liberals are muting their system? >> you have no credibility if you do that. she also attacked ryan liz of the new yorker. ryan and ezra cline are not liberal pundits. they're journalists. they may be liberal people, but they're journalists. >> they're very good journalists who do a lot of reporting. >> their credibility is on the line and they can't just lie to people. you would have to lie in that situation. i am one of the biggest supporters of obama care. i have gone to the mat on obama care over and over and over. but you can't pretend this isn't happening. >> the emperor wears no clothes. >> and it's a real setback for people who believe in acts of discoverment and believe that we should have the single payer system. so it's a setback. >> i'm the only guy here. i'm trying to keep it on the high road. you mentioned, amy, the health style section, the lifestyle section, another place where the obama care debacle has broken through is on the camdy section. let's take a look at last night, "saturday night live" rolled out someone who looked like catherine sebelius. >> a lot of folks have been talking about our new health care enrollment website, how it's been crashing and freezing, shutting down, not working and breaking and sucking. well, tonight, i have a number of friendly tips to help you deal with those technical problems. for example, have you tried restarting your computer? >> and john seward weighed in this week with a pretty sinking bit of mockery. >> health care.gov has been plagued by glitches. >> glitches. >> snap foos. >> the bugs, kinks, whatever you want to call this. >> glitches. >> yes, apparently the heal healthcare.gov website has 99 problems, but a glitch is all of them. >> how significant is jon stewart joining the critics? >> he's made obama care a punch line for america. and what's striking about this is he has been so critical of republicans. everyone knows he's very liberal. fox news in particular. and his statistics on the demographics of his show are really what make this important. 40% are supportive democrats and independents both. and the younger people who washing it. 40% of his viewers are 30 or younger, who need to sign up for this program who probably now are not going to do it. >> what about shawn hanaby who called the obama care hot line, she answered a lot of questions she wasn't supposed to answer. she got fired. he's paying her $26,000 salary for the next year trying to help her. should he have done that and got somebody in trouble? >> i think you can call a hot line. it's a 1-800 number publicly given out. >> and he asked her permission to go on the air. >> right. i think the story here is the only person that hasn't gotten fired yet is a 1-800 hot line operator. >> and what about we saw the kathleen sebelius parity. what about the way she has been turned into a media pinata over the demands that she be fired or somebody be fired. >> well, it's her job. she's responsible for it. i think the reason she's not going to get fired is we're in the middle of a crisis and it doesn't make sense to fire the person that is helping shepherd you through it. and i think the administration thinks there's no way to get somebody confirmed. >> they don't want to look like they were backed into a corner. >> but my problem with this is, okay, either fire her or support her and they're not doing either. in a "new york times" story, the "new york times" interviewed her brother and sister to talk about how good of a person she is. and her character. and the white house was nowhere behind her. >> well, but in another "new york times" story, a person who was not mentioned by name, but it was described as having been close to both sebelius and the title, but she doesn't kathleen have the responsibility or in many respects the kind of wide authority and access to the president that she needs to make a difference. so the white house seems to be, you know, she doesn't really do much so it's not kind of our fault. >> which is ridiculous. somebody does need to take the fall for this. whether or not it's her is up to the president of united states. there are reasons for it, reasons against it. but it needs to be done and it deserves to be covered. >> one of the things we do on this program is we try to cut through the accusations. during the shutdown, republicans were getting pummeled in the press and politically. the democrat and president are having a hard time of it in the coverage because of what's happened. when we come back, the white house official gets the boot of a meefr spirited twitter account. why do people do that? 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