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laws that have been violated here. not only did comey and his confederates use what they knew was a fact document, the dossier, it was being pushed by the overs, and christopher steele and glenn simpson, they knew it was phony but they used it any way as an excuse to try to destroy trump, damage his candidacy, remove him from office after elected. in so doing they violated fbi regulations and importantly they perpetrated a fraud on the fisa court. that's abuse of power, which is a felony. it's also perjury, because they swore for the veracity of the document when they presented if to the court and cover-up since then is obstruction of justice. there are a variety of crimes. i lay them all out in the book. >> you do it well. sara i'll go back to you. you know this christopher ste e steele, who is the spy who got information from russia, who got paid by hillary and the dnc in
the mueller campaign, sara makes a great point and the point is there is nobody looking at this any way. are we just engaging in an unnecessary effort? >> no, you know this is how cover ups work. the truth is slow to emerge. it takes a long time to do it. we know enough now that it was a says pool of corruption. christopher steele who fabricated the dossier that drove the russia hoax, the collusion narrative, this is a guy who admitted in court documents, i dug them up out of a british court proceeding, i put it in the book, he basically said that his document wasn't worth the paper it was written on. >> it was written on. right. >> he said it's unverifiable. principally because it was based on anonymous sources and triple and quad drup hearsay. the fbi knew this. they didn't care. they wanted so much to stop donald trump that they were willing to break the law to do it to abuse their power to
subvert the rule of law and undermine democracy. >> sara do we know where christopher steele is now? is he in this country? he is in the uk, russia, where is this guy? he is in the uk according to all the sources i've spoken with. he's not making himself very public because he's also being sued. and this is the reason why senator chuck grassly with the senate judiciary committee is adamant about getting his deposition that he gave in london here to the united states, and they're fighting for that now. go ahead. >> the problem, judge jeanine is here. we have christopher steele a foreign spy involved in our election, collecting information from the russians. once again if there was any collusion, the collusion was on their part with russia. there is no evidence that president trump or his campaign was involved in collusion with russia. >> christopher steele. did he lie? did he testify here at all? >> no.
no. he hasn't. now he has testified in great britain in a british proceeding that sara referred to. >> well, that's prior inconsistent statement or possibly the basis for a crime here. >>. >> grassly in particular wants to get his hands on the transcript of that testimony. >> right. is it public? >> we've got our hands on the interrogatory answers which are under oath. but the deposition i bet is even more damming of what they people did. >> guys i want to move on for one second. cnn spike lee talks about donald trump and bullhorn racism, trump corruption, we heard space cowboys, mercedes rule is calling space cowboys the proposed space force. they're dumping on everything that donald trump is doing. how -- how are the american people or are they capable of even knowing what the good things are that this president
is doing? >> they're dumping on the american people, judge jeanine. they're not just dumping on the president of the united states. this rhetoric, without any basis, i more than a constant attack, constant rhetoric, constant going after, it's reflective in their ratings, in the ratings that cnn has, re directive in the ratings that ins is now dealing with. the american people are sick and tired of it. they're sick and tired of the decisiveness, sick and tired of the lies. they want something to be rectified, particularly with what we were discussing. >> certainly that will play out in the midterm elections. greg what about all the space cowboys, making fun of the next frontier? >> well these are people criticizing something they're utterly ignorant about. we have a space force run by the united states air force. the president's idea is to expand it. currently it's out in el segundo, california, six,000
employees run the space defense system to protect our assets in space that are incredibly valuable, that if they're ever jeopardized could actually shut down systems in the united states that we rely on daily. these are ignorant people criticizing something they know nothing about. >> alright. thank you both for joining me tonight. and now, with more reaction is rnc chair woman ron that mcdaniel. good evening. it's good to have you here. i don't know if you heard the last few minutes where we were talking about the mainstream media, media on the left is doing everything they can to criticize the president what he's doing, continually calling him every name in the book while all of this evidence comes out about the real collusion about the fbi, doj, fusion gps, hillary clinton and the dnc. >> yeah i mean their playbook is the same as it was leading up to the 2016 election, when they said he couldn't win. they were saying he had no
chance to an electoral victory. we in the heart rand, i'm from michigan, we saw something completely different. we saw people, candidate talking about higher wages and better trade and a country that was lifted up for all people. and that's why donald trump won and again the left wing mainstream media continues to ignore the american people and what we're seeing because of this president, unemployment at a record low, wages are up, our country is rising again. good, keep ignoring the facts because the american people are smarter than that, we feel it will and we're going to show it in the midterms. >> no question most of the american people look at their paychecks, but also the consumer confidence and gdp and all of that t in 2018, let's turn right to the midterms. how is it going to play out in the various parts of the country where, with steal, pennsylvania, where the president has been visiting and the other states that he intends to campaign for,
for candidates in the next four months? >> we've had nine special elections, we've won rate of those. president trump is our greatest asset in the campaign trail. he energizes our base. he brings an energy to our candidates. we need that. he goes into michigan and ohio and other states and he says, listen, we have to fight for what we've just gained. our country is doing better. our economy is roaring. jobs are coming back. if we give it to the democrats they will double down on obstruct and resist and miles an hour us down, and stop what is helping african american unemploy unemployment at the lowest in history, hispanic and women, we've bon eight of nine. the rnc is on the ground in 28 states, we've trained 20,000 volunteers, we are ready to the defy history in the midterms. >> rona, you are one fighter.
i think the president picked the right person for the job you're in. rona, you know, we've met at speeches around the country, i always get from people, what's gonna happen to all this wrongdoing? how come there are no consequences? what do you say to people who get frustrated watching us talk about all of the collusion, conspiracy, the russia hoax? >> yeah i do hear that a lot. one they are not interested in the mueller investigation at all. put that aside. they know there's no collusion. we have something in our constitution called the right to a speedy trial. boy we have investigations that can go on forever. it's ridiculous and it needs to end. they do look at what happened with hillary clinton and the dnc funding the fake dossier and new revelations coming forward that glenn simpson was meeting with bruce ohr and had his wife worked for fusion gps. it's ongoing. we can't seem to get to the bottom of it. there is a frustration. i say stick with the president. put more republicans in the majority. that's the only way we're going to get this done. we need a bigger majority in the
senate. we need to send a message to the mainstream media we're not listening to them, we're listening to the results that are happening on the ground every day that are happening to the american people. >> so good to have you on tonight. thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up on this special edition of hannity i'll tell you why the house judiciary committee chairman is preparing steele dossier subpoenas. tammy bruce will have more on. that don't forget to get your hands on a copy of my new number one new york times best selling book, liars, leak percent and liberals. bret jarrett is chuckling with me as we now sit here, new york times number one best sellers, stay with us. . passion -i've seen lots of homes helping new customers
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♪ ♪ . >> jeanine: welcome back to this special edition of hannity. house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte is preparing to issue subpoenas to individuals connected to the infamous steele dossier. among those chairman goodlatte is seeking to question? former doj official bruce ohr, his wife nellie ohr and fusion gps co. founder glenn simpson. while republicans try to conduct government oversight and actually investigate these abuses of power, many on the left are calling for the republican party to be up ended. watch this. >> that's what needs to happen to the party of trump. it needs to burn to the ground. >> a total and complete violation of their oaths of office to defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies foreign and domestic. >> you see the republican party
now sadly a portion of its base moving closer and closer to russia. not to their own devices they would just left russia run wild throughout our democracy. should congressman nunes be removed from his chairman ship of the house intelligence committee? >> absolutely. he should have been removed a year ago when it was very clear he was not working in the interest of congress. >> if you look at devin nunes, members of the freedom caucus, they remind me of the people that we conservatives used to call useful idiots that would fly down to nicaragua and tell daniel ortega in the middle of a hot element of the cold war that the united states was doing terrible things and were apologizing for ronald reagan's an anticommunist actions. >> joining me is tammy bruce and murdock. guys, you know as goodlatte
prepares these subpoenas, der roy, it's clear based upon the information we've just gotten we're talking about bruce ohr's wife nellie, everybody is being paid by the same group fundamentally, fusion gps, ends up getting funded by hillary, the dnc and on and on and on. goodlatte issues the subpoenas, we're going to have hearings, i'm curious to see how bruce ohr is going to appear. because for some reason i feel a feeling he's like peter strzok but he could be wrong >> i think we need to see how he is in public. i hope they don't have meetings behind closed doors. we've heard their names for months now. we need to find out what these people did and why as members of the department of justice they were behaving like volunteers for the hillary clinton campaign. >> when you think about it, ohr was -- wanted to back channel or launder information from christopher steele after the fbi let him go. you know, to the doj.
>> yeah look. here is what we're finding out. this is what finally we're seeing it go from the gop being focused, using subpoenas, acting on information they're getting. this is relatively new. we're seeing finally the unfolding of the reality of an attempt to frame the president elect, of an attempt then to continue that frame as that man took office. to nullify an american election. while it is actually frightening to think about, many people don't want to go there, but you're looking at not many people at all, peter strzok, james comey, this guy. >> upper echelon. but for bruce ohr and his wife, this is what's interesting, people working in different department, with fusion gps, with the government, i would remind people and mary jacoby's name that is been on the list in the house committees, these 9 wife of glenn simpson. she also worked at the law firm
with hillary clinton. the rose law firm. she is deeply linked with the clintons. so you have this, again very small group of people, very incestuous, all having the same framework. these are people who are committed to the establishment, to what they figured was the next dynamic in line because they had their futures and retirements figured out. and donald trump ruined it and that's what they wanted to stop. >> jeanine: deroy, tammy talks about the anti-trump conspiracy, they were committed to their own future. but their roots were so deep. these were not people kind of mid level management. they were right at the top. >> very high up, absolutely. >> jeanine: so it tells me, i mean my prosecutorial instincts tell me they don't do this unless somebody in that oval office is agreeing to it. i'm worried that they're worried, the left that we're going to get to that. >> it might get to that.
at the very minimum the attorney general must have known what was going on it below her. >> loretta, the one who met with bill clinton on the tarmac. >> yes, what a strange coincidence that was. they talked about golf and grandchildren. >> for 30 minutes. >> subpoenas can help. president trump can declassify as many of these documents as he can. >> why doesn't he? >> i don't know. i think he might think the out cry from the immediate i can't left will be tremendous. they're screaming any way. they're going to yell no matter what, let's give them a reason to yes >> i think he's been advised it is best to not interfere, to retreat as much as he can while you see this unfold. the american people do want to be able to trust the end result. and we will be able to, if this is done legitimately, that the gop does its job with its own investigations and the president shouldn't have to do that. ultimately, in the michael good win column in the new york post, it is time in fact to declassify
these documents and he may in fact take that step. >> jeanine: he's not doing it. here is the question. to give it legitimacy how is there any conclusion if there's no prosecution and no one is taken out in cuffs? >> i mean we could get to that point if we have -- >> jeanine: if we had an attorney general who had the authority to do it. >> he's invisible, isn't he? >> jeanine: he's in the closet hiding somewhere. >> he needs to be out here pushing this thing, moving it along. >> jeanine: let's talk about goodlatte, not goodlatte, schmidt. i'll go to you deroy, learning the republican party around. he was a republican strategist? >> he was john mccain's campaign manager, he's upset that mccain didn't make it to the white house. the one i joined in 1988 needs to be burned to the ground. it's amazing as a conservative if he is one. we have a president with 88%
among the gop, black support to 29%. he's implementing a conservative agenda and it's working, the keystone pipeline is being built, u.s. embassy in jerusalem, 4.1% economic growth, black and hispanic unemployment at record lows. so these things are working, with the exception of free trade where i differ with the president a bit that is a conservative agenda and every conservative should be delighted. >> his xherndz approximate comments confirm the importance of what happened in 201. there was a lot of fury about who was a conservative. it was theater t those individuals, there was no commitment to the conservative agenda, it was a commitment to the machine, to the monster that was moving forward on both sides, the dsz and the republicans, donald trump represented a genuine shift into a genuine framework that embraced the conservative ideal and also represented the
american people, not the machine. and that is why you hear steve schmidt now saying it has to be burned to the ground. he is late to the party. he's late. he is irrelevant. these are individuals who understand this. and they will not be coming back into put on pore. they must simply accept that and embrace the fact that the country is out of its coma and moving forward. >> jeanine: the interesting part of this is that you have people saying republicans are putting trump over country. not that what oh done knell says ever makes sense. i know where he's coming from. how does that make sense? >> it didn't make any sense. donald trump is doing what's good for the country, in terms of the economy, and overseas respect, in terms of projecting american force where necessary. isis is shrunk down to a few hundred acres, they were a terrifying force a few years ago, this is good for the country and good for donald trump. >> jeanine: i remember a couple years ago everybody was worried
people were going to show up with a knife. >> lawrence odonell thinks everyone else is uninformed as his own audience. everyone knows in real life what the president has done. he's speaking in a tiny chamber but we're moving forward and support the president. >> jeanine: thank you to both of you. >> thank you. >> jeanine: up next judicial watch is suing the department of justice. i'll have more on this new legal action from tom finton himself, david avilla and doug schoen as this special edition of hannity continues. bring you the fall hunting classic - with great deals. like savings of 35% on scentlok savanna crosshair jackets and pants. and save $20 on a 6-pack of big foot b2 full-body goose decoys. but climbing 58,070 steps a year can be hard on her feet, knees, and lower back. that's why she wears dr. scholl's orthotics.
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election. watch this. >> the dossier's author christopher steele, that former british spy was in touch with an official at the justice department, bruce ohr earlier than we thought, they were exchanging emails in january of 2016. what was interesting here is that steele was writing to bruce ohr at the justice department and he was talking about a russian oligarch, mid year 2016, christopher steele says to ohr, we need to talk. i need to talk to you about some other business. but i specifically want to discuss with you informally and separately, and it concerns our favorite business tie couldn't. and now most people who read this believe that's donald trump because that's just a few days before christopher steele actually tells the fbi, gives them the first installment of the dossier which is the famous moscow hotel scene. >> jeanine: meanwhile judicial watch is suing the justice
department for communications between bruce ohr, nellie ohr, christopher steele and fusion gps. joining me now with more is judicial watch president tom finton, david avilla and fox news contributor doug schoen. you know we've got this link between steele, ohr and the russia oligarch. but there seems that there is no way for congress to get information, in their oversight attempts. there is no way the justice department is giving information via freedom of information. the only way we're getting information now is as usual through tom at any time ton and judicial watch. alright? so now tom you get all this information about the oligarch and christopher steele, what is that about? >> well look. christopher steele looks like was working with fusion gps even back then, which we have to
remember was representing putin interests in court, here in the united states. trying to target putin's krit sticks. the key putin critic that led to the ma gin ski act that was famously discussed at the trump tower meeting. you putin interests pushing obviously it looks like the justice department, trying to push it on the trump campaign, this approach to removing the act that was curtailing the rights of oligarchs in russia in terms of sanctions regime and imposition to sanctions. the irony here is fusion gps was working for the clinton camp to target trump, also working for the putin camp to target the government generally in terms of getting the act to go away. >> jeanine: but then it suggests, david, that the russians would be including with
christopher steele to make trump look bad. >> the democrats right now judge are pushing the big guest blame shift or blame the victim strategy that we have ever seen in political history. most americans don't know who steele, ohr, this russian oligarch, are. yet a convincing number of them now the realize there were people working for hillary clinton who would say or do anything to keep donald trump from being president. it only underscores why hillary clinton had the lowest approval rating of any candidate in presidential history. >> jeanine: you know judicial watch, doug, we find out, found out after steele had been fired by the fbi, that bruce ohr met with him. >> sure. >> jeanine: to loun der information to get back to the fbi. but it gets even better. ohr was trying to get steele
back to the fbi as an informant or human confidential source, whatever they call him. but more importantly, he was trying to get him on the mueller team. this cabal, they're all incestuous. >> i guess my position as somebody in the middle here is all of these documents that tom at any time ton and judicial watch are seeking, it strikes me in the interest of justice, not partisanship, ought to be released so we know what the facts are. that will help us, judge every aspect of this increasingly murky case. >> jeanine: you know tom, let me just ask you this. what doug says is so true. no one has questioned any of the information you've un-earthed. no one is saying it's not true, it's not this, it's not that. but every day we have to fight for everything. to what end are you getting this information? obviously to get the information out. we know that in the public square. what do you want ultimately, tom? you're working your butt off
here. >> we think the corruption scandal of our time is this targeting of trump using the fbi and doj in league with the clinton camp and russia interests to spy on him and try to destroy now his presidency. i frankly think congress is walking around or trying to talk around mueller's involvement in all of this. steele was part of the mueller operation. remember, judicial watch uncovered the fisa warrant applications signed by rod rosenstein in june of 2017, last year right in the middle of the mueller operation. mueller was using steele's information, source number one, the fusion gps dossier that steele helped create to just identify spying on carter page of the trump team who had been formerly with the trump team. mueller has a lot of questions to answer about his relationship with steele, his use of that material. because i'm convinced mueller was pursuing the clinton dnc
dossier all through his investigation, and it's all based on corruption. this is why mueller needs to be confronted directly. i would like to see congress bring him in and ask him questions about his use and misuse of this. >> jeanine: wow! okay. does congress have the authority to bring him in? >> of course they do. it's fear based decision making and congress are protecting mueller at the leadership level. he needs to be held to account. >> jeanine: i like the way you think. david what's your response to that? >> democrats thought they were going to bring havoc to republicans this year in the elections by pushing this shifting the blame, blaming the victim strategy. the reality is, it is one thing that is motivating base republican voters to go to the polls to make sure that republicans get a fair chance in this election. >> jeanine: doug you are the
democrat ivanka kushner pollster, who is going to happen? >> at this point the democrats have a clear advantage. the reason is it's not so much that this investigation or these issues we've been talking about are impacting voters, i don't think they are. it's that there has been a side show for the republicans that's taken emphasis off the economy, off the tax cuts, and off the benefits. and if i could offer my republican friends some free advice, talk about the economy, talk about the progress. in 1982 the republicans slogan under ronald reagan was stay the course. the republicans need something like that. otherwise the democrats will take the house, which is where things stand now. >> jeanine: david avilla you are the head of go pack. you have your tentacles all across the country in terms of state legislatures. what do you think of what doug just said? the idea of stepping on our own good news story by going after this russia collusion. does he have a point?
>> he does have a point. we do need to be talking about the economy. but let's also keep in mind, the democrats keep talking about we're going to pick up, if we the win 17 state legislative seats we pick up eight legislative chambers across the country. judge if the republicans pick up eleven seats we pick up six more chambers and we already have 67 of 99, we would have 72 of 99, this battle field is every bit as competitive for republicans as it is for the democrats and the key will be which base turns to you to vote. >> jeanine: i think doug was really talking about you have the historic president advantage. tom where are you going next? >> oh, we're fighting the fbi over text messages for the corrupt fbi official andrew mccabe. the fbi doesn't want to turn over one text message to us. >> jeanine: this blows my the mind. the president appointments christopher wray. the first time he testified before congress christopher wray
does the dance, we'll hand you the stuff over. now we have to ask for foia and sue in a lawsuit. alright, i think i had the last word. any way guys, thanks for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> jeanine: alright. now rudy juliani says mueller's case is about to blowup! coming up, i have charlie kirk and dan bongino to break this down. plus don't forget my book lie as, leakers and liberals the case against the anti-trump conspiracy available wherever books are sold. stay with us. too cold for camping?
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vladimir putin did during the campaign. i'm no fan of vladimir putin. so what questions, exactly, does mr. mueller have? talking to you mr. mueller. exactly what questions that you have, where you seek to turn this country upside-down and disenfranchise the over 60 million people who voted for this president of the united states. you are a play thing of the media, play thing of the democrats, play thing of people within the obama administration who sought from dale one to take this president down. >> the real story here is not that this case is going to fizzle, it's going to blowup on them. the real question is what we talked about before, there's a lot more to what they did that nobody knows about yet. a lot more to the obstruction of justice to the collusion, to the fake dots yeah. >> oh i know a lot. >> trying to bring smooel homerun steele back in after he was completely discredited. >> and then feed it to mueller. >> yeah, mueller is going to have a lot to answer for.
>> jeanine: that was attorney for the president, rudy juliani and mark levin on this program, both with tough words for special counsel robert mueller. joining me now with reaction, author of the upcoming back spy gate the attempted sabotage of donald j trump, former secret series agent our friend dan bongino and turning point usa founder, our friend also, charlie kirk. dan you're sitting here i'll ask you this. you know, is mueller a greater threat than putin to this country? >> well he's a serious threat. he's based his entire the operation, the investigation of donald trump on a sham. judge let's use the fbi's own words. the head of the fbi talking about the bedrock of the case, the dossier said it's salacious and unverified. number two said they would have no case without the dossier. the guy in charge of the division working the case says we verified it, and the lead investigator in the case in a
text to his girlfriend, strzok, says there's no there, there. they're investigating trump for nothing. >> jeanine: alright. strzok even thought about not going on mueller's team because there was no there there and he of wouldn't come you with a great indictment. >> jeanine: mueller greater threat than putin, charlie? >> it's tough to say. mueller is doing so much damage to this country t what i'm focused on is who approved mueller in the first place? it was republicans in congress that decided to appoint the special prosecutor, with basic unlimited authority, unlimited power to go after the president. what have they turned up? they found paul manafort not on russian collusion which was the original intent of the special prosecutor but on tax and wire fraud. they have zero, no interference, no evidence whatsoever. talking about mueller, look at his background. he was a flawed investigator, he previous the vented victims from 9/11 from suing saudi at rab at i can't, botched an lacks case
in the 1970s, you have to ask the question why are republicans in congress not going after him>> jeanine: what's interesting is congressman dee san at this who is often on my show, justice, offered an amendment where the mueller investigation would be defunded off six months, or you know whatever period of time could be agreed on. and of course paul ryan and the leadership wouldn't allow it to go forward. so dan, i mean you know the republicans, even chuck grassly in the senate, had talked about a bill where they would be able to prevent the president in the event he tried to fire mueller. so you've got the rinos, people who are supporting mueller. this thing is going on and on. isn't charlie right in the why are they funding this ridiculous thing where they're trying a case in federal court that has nothing to do with their charge? >> because bob mueller is not
investigating a crime, judge. he's investigating donald trump. there is a difference. when i was a secret service agent, you can't walk in and say i don't like judge jeanine, investigate her. for what? i don't know we'll find something. you say investigate johnny apple seed or whatever, he stole a car last night. they're investigating trump they don't have anything, they have zero on donald trump. there is no real case, there is no there there. >> jeanine: charlie, when they tried to do this investigation of donald trump, you know, it seems that as i say in my book, you .1 finger, three fingers are pointing back at you. that's what is happening with the russia collusion investigation. when rudy juliani in the sound we had before we started, he said this thing is going to blowup, i believe it based on what we've seen and the revelations with bruce ohr, nellie ohr, christopher steele and the rest of those bozos, glenn simpson, but to what end? where are we going? >> right. exactly.
in your book which is fantastic, by the way, you point out all the deep state actors against this president that have been working here. going back to bob mueller we can't forget he put peter strzok as his lead investigator of the russia investigation until all this came out. if it wasn't for devin nunes who is doing a wonderful job we wouldn't have known about these things. this is a political assassination against the president, using the special prosecutor to try to filibuster and demagogue his success. but again the republicans authorized this. the republicans in congress can say bob mueller you have 90 days, see what you've got then the funding is gone. congress has the prerogative to do their jobs, they're letting him run reckless. >> jeanine: charlie the problem is that paul ryan who is not running again, you know, he just is lame duck right now, and he won't step aside and let someone else come in. and he's stopping everything
from, like this from happening. >> you're right. here is the great irony, they wouldn't have their majority if it wasn't for president donald trump, he carried them to a majority in these states. pot too my wouldn't be a senator, paul ryan wouldn't be speaker of the house, they obstruct his legitimacy, it is beyond words. the lame duck is a great point. we need the house of representatives to defund the mueller investigation. >> jeanine: defund the investigation, i don't know if that's going to happen. then you have the other issue of it's going to blowup, and rudy juliani is suggesting there is even more stuff to come. i was thinking about it. who would have thought eight months ago we would be this far in terms of what is going on? but this far is taking us where? >> well doctors three sub scandals in this, information laundering information by the fbi, spying and framing of
donald trump in the beginning, with his team. the information super highway, laundering was democrats and people working with russian oligarchs and including with the russians, it is among the democrats, no question about that. it is the level of it that matters. >> jeanine: it's amazing. thank you gentlemen. coming up, more of the special edition of hannity right after the break. today...
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