Transmitted this data indicates a smoke alerlt in toilet and in the avionics compartment. An aviation specialist told fox news this could mean there was a fire on board which could have caused the planes controls to completely fail. Now until the aircraft is recovered, investigators wont be able to learn exactly what happened. Several countries including france have joined in the search and rescue operation and today the first items of wreckage were discovered. The Egyptian Navy says its ships recovered personal items with what is parts of the plane such as seats, they found human remains, too, a sad confirmation that none of the 66 passengers and crew is likely to have survived the crash. The debris was discovered 180 miles north of egypts coast not far from where the last signal from the flight was. Picked up. The next step is to locate the main body of the aircraft, something this u. S. Navy plane is assisting with and as always, it will be crucial to recover the black boxes. So far, these have not been located and any data which can be recovered from them obviously will be vital to the investigation, but search efforts in these deep waters is going to take some time. And if this new data indicating a fire on board proves to be accurate, it will be a big leap forward in that investigation, but then the next question, if it was a fire that caused the crash, then what caused the fire . Tucker . Thanks a lot. Joining us with reaction from commercial pilot and aerospace journalist kathleen bangs, aviation expert sal lagonia and National Security staffer gillian turner. C kathleen, as a former commercial pilot, many assume it was a bomb because the aircraft dropped rell aretively quickly from altitude into the sea. Could have fire have caused the mishap to unfold as quickly as that . Yes. Tucker, in fact, ive been very suspicious from the beginning about this, perhaps not being a bomb, and im glad to see were looking at other factors. This acars report, what is it is theres a digital recording system that comes from the airplane separate from anything that the pilots enter and it goes via satellite up and back to the company. What thats showing is we had a cascade of problems that happened on that airplane over a two to threeminute period. If this was a bomb, highly unlikely that these events would happen over two to three minute period. Its not impossible for a very, very small bomb, but it does not appear that theres any breach of the fuselage, that there was a depressurization. So what it looks like is perhaps a fire near the cockpit, perhaps under the cockpit in whats called the avionics bay or ene compartment that spread rapidly into the cockpit and the forward lavatory. Boy, so fast though, sal. No distress call from the aircraft. A lot of smoke in cockpits and planes land safely. Why could this have unfolded thats whats still bothering me about this. This happened very, very quickly. Whatever this was, it was very, very quickly. All we know from the acars report so far is there was a lo of heat on the copilots side and smoke in the cockpit and in the cabin. So the acars report, there was heat. Right. You can tell the heat against the window of the copilot. And thats exactly what it told us. Doesnt tell us how it gets there. Of course we still need to know that. Im still a bit suspicious about anything natural happening on this aircraft. You had something that was very quick that was so fast that the pilots apparently werent able to don their supplemental oxygen and make a may day call which is number four on their checklist. The fourth item on the checklist is may day may day. They didnt do that. The two arent mutually inclusive. It could have been an incendiary device. The race is on from a counterterrorism perspective, theres a tremendous amount of urgency. Any clues that can be gleaned here can be used to help thwart and prevent future terrorist attacks if its determined it is an attack now. Whats going to happen is Law EnforcementIntelligence Community officials are going to converge around this area and start rifling through this. Immediate questions that need to be asked are what organization perpetrated this, what individuals and are those people still operational . Thats where the time crunch really comes in here. Kathleen, i dont think theres anything scarier than the idea of a fire on board an aircraft at 37,000 feet. The airline says theres no nothing. Known hazardous cargo in the hold of this plane. Would they know that . Yes. Tucker, that means nothing. You know what was also suspicious to me is as soon as this happened two nights ago, within minutes egyptair announced there was no hazardous cargo on board that airplane. Airlines frequent ly do not kno what the cargo is theyre carrying. Look at what passengers bring on board. So we dont know what could have been on board if it was in the front cargo hold, but beyond it being cargo, very easily it could have been a scenario that something overheated in that ene compartment. Does not necessarily mean it was an incendiary device or bomb. Youre right. Its a pilots worst nightmare. Personally id rather chance a midair collision than i would an uncontained fire at full altitude. The pilots can be overcome by toxic fumes within a minute or two. Val value jet 1997 in the u. S. Wound up in the everglade. Of course, short of miami airport. There are Fire Suppression programs in the airport, right, sal . There are. You can decompress cargo holds you can take the oxygen out of the cargo holds. Row have time if its a natural fire. When i say natural fire, something that was caused by the aircraft itself. If that was in the ene compartment, the fire normally will not spread very quickly. It would be there is fuming co coming out of if when the pilot reacts to that, immediately they don supplemental oxygen and start through a checklist of items to try to isolate the fire. Remember, now, we also have moments later this airplane going out of control. That means it cut through those Communications Systems and the control systems very, very fast. Physically cut through them. Something burned through them. Something bad happened. You hate to speculate, were not going to speculate, but if this were a terror attack using an incendiary device, is there any precedence of that, have we ever seen that before . Thats a great question. Id have to go back nothing nothing jumping out at me, no, id have to double back on that. The big picture here is Aviation Security is now a Global Security issue, right . Yes. You saw with this flight, started on one continent, ended u up on a different one. Passenger manifests, people from ten different countries. One countrys vulnerabilities are one weak link for the entire world. Were going to share the consequences. Its important to start thinking about this as a rather than a middle east, africa issue or one region problem. Everybodys problems here are shared. Kathleen, obviously air travel is key to global commerce. Nobody wants to shut that down or slow it. That would be a disaster in itself. The idea pilots and airlines dont have an idea whats on their own airplanes is troubling and weird. Should that change. A lot of things aviation organizations have been trying to change is the fact theres huge pallets sometimes of nicad batteries and cell phone batteries and those sort of things shipped around the world and, you know, pilots dont even know whats going into their own cargo hold sometime. So one of the most Dangerous Things is just the cell phone batteries that you see, laptop batteries. Those things can start a cascade fire where one overheated. A flight last month to hawaii a womans iphone started on fire inside an airplane. Imagine if that was in the cargo hold. You really cant imagine that. Sal, you you can, though. You can. You can imagine it as developing very slowly. Slowly enough for the procedures on board the aircraft im thinking something very quick happened here and something very bad happened in this airplane. I dont think it was something that slow type of a mistake or of an accident within an Electronic Device on the airplane. Quickly, gillian, do you tha think were going to have to wait until the black boxes are analyzed . I think so. Theres no other shortcut here. This plane is in very deep water. It could be a while. It could be in one of those we were talking about earlier, one of the caverns beneath the floor of the surface. Coming up next right here on the hannity program. I mean, she is so ill equipped to be the ft. Do you think that donald trump is qualified to be president . No. I do not. 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He says a lot of things that are provocative that actually make the important task of building this coalition, bringing everybody to the table and defeating terrorism more difficult. Is that the dumbest thing youve ever heard . To me its one of the dumber statements ive heard. Shes so ill equipped to be the president. Why is it dumb . I just think its absolutely dumb. Do you think that donald trump is qualified to be president . No, i do not. She came up and she said that donald trump talked about radical islamic terrorism which she doesnt want to use. She used a different term. She opportunity want to use that term. Well, following the crash of egyptair flight 804 within hours of it, Hillary Clinton and donald trump weighed in and then began sparring over whod make a better president. Trump went on twitter last night saying this, look where the world is today. A total mess. Isis is still running around wild. I can fix it fast. Hillary has no chance. He tweeted this, crooked Hillary Clinton looks president ial . I dont think so. Four more years of obama and country will never come back. Isis laughs. Joining me, Mercedes Schlapp as well as author of the brand new book we the people and cohost of the five Juan Williams. Great to see you both. Juan, first to you, so Hillary Clinton has said in essence donald trump is a shoot from the hip kind of guy, he doesnt know anything and hes not suited to be president , in fact, not qualified to be president. But she was secretary of state during a period when the region from which isis grew became much less stable and more chaotic in large part due to the policy she espoused. She should have take responsibility for that. Thats what the debate should be about, tucker. Im glad you put in that way. Id embrace that kind of strong, serious debate. I will point out obviously you had the arab spring during that time, youve had lots of issues including syria and we all have discussed what happened in libya and benghazi. Then you go back before that and you know isis and obviously al qaeda have deep roots in terms of what happened, in terms of the iraq war. But the point that you make is lets have a substantive debate. I think what youre seeing from trump right now is, hey, i just want to demean Hillary Clinton and shoot off my mouth and get on social media and i dont think that calls into question whether or not he has the temperament to be the president. So mercedes, i agree substantively with the trump critique of the hillary years. On the other hand, without knowing what happened to this plane, trump said it was blown out of the sky. He doesnt know that. Nobody knows that. He may well be right. That was my first instinct. If i were donald trump, i would not have said it. I think donald trump sometimes goes with his gut and its his first reaction and thats what he tweets out. You know, chances are hes probably right. When it comes to Foreign Policy issues, especially when youre dealing with terrorists acts, there is a moment when you need to pause as a leader and say, wait a second here, we got to see what the evidence is, got to see whats happening. I do think he jumped the gun on it. Hes probably right. Again, i think he really feels that his gut is usually in the right area. But i think it would have been wiser for him to hold back, wait to see what the investigation shows. And, again, but when you look at the case of Hillary Clinton, shes the one thats also, tucker, being demeaning toward donald trump saying hes not qualified to be president. Goodness gracious, if we look at her background, alone, as secretary of state, there was so many factors where that behind the mishandling of the arab spring, behind the issue of libya where there were so many repercussions and the failures that happened there which have allowed isis to come and grow in that area, so i think that we have to take a look at the fact that when trump is going after Hillary Clinton, hes got it right in a sense that do we really want to trust her with making sure that americas in a stronger position . I dont think it is after obama has been president for so long. I dont think anyone could argue otherwise. One, you say that you want a substantive debate and i believe thats true. Hillary says she wants a sta substantive debate yet dismiss trump with the back of her hand and says hes not qualified rather than engaging with what he actually says, oh hoo, hes racist for putting a ban on muslim immigration, never addressing modern europe as a result of their immigration policies. Shes being every bit as shallow as she accuses trump of being, isn isnt she . Hold on a second. You talked about the ban on muslim immigrants. He walked it back a little bit and said it might just be temporary because there was such a negative response and the negative response wasnt just from Hillary Clinton, it came from other republicans. Hold on. Conservatives said thats not in keeping okay. I dont want to get sidetracked. When we get off the air, google the polling on that question. 65 of people support it in wisconsin. Actually the new yorker editorial writers dont like it but people think that might not be crazy. Sorry. What im saying to you, tucker, if you want to have you were saying this, if you want to have a debate about whats going on in the middle l east, lets have that debate. You cant say all of a sudden this is going to be solved by a ban on muslims coming into the united states. We can have it, we can say its an impulsive emotional response. As you know look at this vulgar creep, you know, hes a racist, really . Tell me what your immigration policy how are we going to prevent america from becoming, say, sweden or germany . Whats your plan . You dont prevent it by alienating our middle eastern allies how do you prevent it . Okay. Thats fine. How do you prevent it . You prevent it by engaging in an aggressive and strong war against islamic terror in the world. Mercedes, mr. Trump has said that he will beat isis quickly. Hows he going to do that . You know, this i very complicated situation with not a simple solution. And i think for trump hes made some interesting comments which is he doesnt want to be dealing with a regime change in syria while at the same time fighting isis. It seems in his mind that hes going to focus on isis, take military action there, and figure out a way to destroy it. Hes talked about taking out some oil fields where we know a lot of the primary income that goes into the hands of isis come from those oil fields, oil field production. So i think for donald trump as it is for any of these any of the president s, is that its a very difficult task. Right. This is not just a shortterm war, tucker. Were dealing with a longterm bloody war that is not going to take just several years to just take down. And thats the reality that were living in. Mercedes, were at a disadvanta disadvantage, tucker, because trump doesnt spell out who hes going to do. Look, thats not true. Sorry, juan. He says, you know, we are better than they are, they are wrong, we are right. Seems like a good start. Thats fine but whats his policy . America first. Well have to wait for another show to get into that. Were out of time on this segment. I want to thank you both for coming on. Donald trump continues to unleash blistering attacks. Today hes questioning on whether hillary wants bill to be in the white house with her so she can keep an eye on him. Leslie marshall and tammy bruce to react on that. If that wasnt enough, wait for this. The only way to save our 2nd amendment is to vote for a person that you all know named donald trump. Trump was endorsed by the nra today. He vowed to protect your 2nd amendment rights if elected president and seemed to mean it. Bo dietl, Brian Benjamin here to debate that. Much more straight ahead on the hannity program. You wouldnt order szechuan without checking the spice level. It really opens the passages. Waiter. Water. So why would you invest without checking brokercheck . Check your broker with brokercheck. 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