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but this is politics. and if you can't stand the heat in this little kitchen, wait until the obama hell's kitchen turns up the heat. >> this morning, speaker gingrich responded in a big way. let's take a look. >> i have challenged governor romney to meet me for 90 minutes in iowa, next week, anywhere, any time, time keeper, no moderator. [cheers and applause] >> and we'll bring all of his negative ads and show them for free and he can explain them. we will find out tomorrow how he likes the heat. >> today, former president, joarm h.w. bush made headlines by announcing he's backing mitt romney in 2012. the former president told the houston chronicle, quote, i think romney is the best choice for us, adding, quote, i just think he's mature and reasonable, not a bomb thrower. hmm. he said of newt gingrich... here with reaction is someone who knows the former president very well, the author of "courage and consequence," fox news contributor, karl rove. let's stick with george h.w. bush for a moment. if you remember back in 1988, bob dole snarled to president bush, quit lying about my record. does complaining that the other guy's being mean to you generally work out to be very effective? >> no, not really. it makes you sound like a whiner. on the other hand, if you take up things that are in the ad that you find offensive and hammer those specifically to show how untruthful they really are, then you begin to get some purchase. then you begin to get some leverage. but if you say stop saying bad things about me, it doesn't work. that's why you know, this week in iowa, let's take a look. in iowa this week, mitt romney is spending $829,000 on ads, me and his super pac. rick perry, his campaign and his super pac, spending $718,000. ron paul, all from his campaign, $344,000. newt, all from his campaign, $222,000. $164,000 from santorum. $2,277,000 being spent. that's eye lot of mon nea small state like iowa. if you were buying television on the same level nation wie, it would be $200 million in one week on television. a lot of this -- and part of this ads, part of these ads are all aimed at this guy. he is being outspent by a significant margin. spending 1/10 of the money and having 4 times as much spent on ads against him as ads for him. so the speaker would be better off not whining, but saying, you know what, here's how romney's lied about me or here's how rick perry's lying about. but they are principally focused on things like freddie mac. and it's hard to give a point-to-point defense. >> he's challenged governor romney to a 90-minute debate and governor romney said, get lost. i ain't gonna do it. who wins that? >> it helps newt in the sense that it reminds people that he's done well in the debates. but it's a one-day story. you can't go around and say why won't he debate me when there have been 13 this year. newt gingrich failed to show up at the first fox debate, held earlier this year. there have been a lot of debates. if there hadn't been, this would have more salience, but it was a good way to say, remember, everybody, i have been good on the stage. >> is this the traditional, the return of traditional politics? newt circumvented the process with no staffers, no money, no ads, no consultants. he was out there tap dancing through the debates brilliantly. now it's days before the caucuses and it's come back to old-fashioned things like money, organization and advertising. >> sure. i think you are absolutely right. that's what it always comes back to. message matters most of all, more than the three things you talked about. but it does matter in a state like iowa or new hampshire or south carolina, whether you have an organization behind scput monet and resources necessary to fight the battle. newt today gained 15,000 signatures to get on the virginia ballot. it took his personal involvement and they were scrambling to do it. mitt romney and other campaigns had previously qualified for the virginia ballot with ease because of their organizations. that's a sign of the difference here. we are in a point in a primary where every moment matters. you cannot imagine how many demands there are with 12 days plus, including christmas day and boxing day. new year's eve and new year's day. when have you 12 days left until the primary, it really causes you to be worried about every moment and having to worry about, am i going to get on the ballot in virginia is not the place where you want to be. >> you stunned me. i didn't know they celebrated boxing day in iowa. >> i did that specifically for you. i am glad you picked up on the cultural reference. >> i am sharp. let's go back to something you said before the boxing day reference -- message. mitt romney has stayed on message, soporifically so. newt seems to have a zillion messages. he's talking about brain science, then he wants u.s. marshals arresting federal judges. he has a thousand messages. that was fun during the debates. is he honing his message sufficiently no now? >> i don't believe so. take a look, romney gives a speech this week in which he basically says, here's the choice that we have in the 2012 general election, between an entitlement society and a merit society. these are the big issues and differences between me and barack obama. then we have newt talking about, last weekend on fox news sunday, i was going to send u.s. marshals or capitol police to drail drag liberal judges in front of the congress to account for bad decisions. i thought his judge attack was a sound short-term gambit because, look, republicans are concerned about liberal judges and an imperial judiciary. but this has not worn well because it's caused people to say, wait a minute, if we want the congress to have that power, the president to have that power, how would that power be wielded against conservative judges in 2009 and 2010? rather than, you know, finding a way to exit, he doubled down on sunday saying, i am going to send the marshals to drag them before the congress. i don't think that's where he wants to be. he wants to be focused on obama and things, every argument has a counter-argument. you can say the sky is blue and i would say, it's mostly blue, but there are a couple of white clouds in it. when newt says, i am going to go after the judiciary and then the counter argument begins and it's not positive, i think, for the former speaker. >> a lot of clouds in those blue skies of a couple of weeks ago. merry christmas to you. thanks a lot. >> same to you. >> a deal has been reached on capitol hill to extend the payroll tax cut. we will tell you what the ramifications could be for house republicans and the specifics of the deal, up next. just days after president obama ordered u.s. forces to leave iraq, baghdad is rocked by more than a dozen deadly explosions. we will analyze the president's controversial decision. controversial decision. that's next on what makes scottrade your smartphone's most powerful trading app ? 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>> it says a lot, as you would introduce it in that manner. but they did. for me, it's all about how do you get out of this situation, saving some face because politically, it is just a fiasco. it's just been a mess. it's harming the party. it's harming the republican brand going into a presidential election year. so when you ask how did they get into this? largely, it's evidence of the continuing split in the party between establishment republicans, mitch in mcconnell and john bainer in the house who thought, you know what? this is good enough. we will put pressure on about theo obama with the keystone pipeline deal and embarrass himself one way or the other, if he says "yes" or "no." we are glad and we are going to negotiate this again in two months. but the house freshmen, the tea party freshmen didn't buy the deal and say, you know what? we didn't get sent to washington to maintain the status quo, we are here to create change and that includes taking on the republican establishment. >> but it wasn't just the freshmen, i mean, basically, the idea here that was whereins were going to call the president's bluff on the canadian pipeline and instead, he called their bluff on the tax cuts? >> i a little bit of keystone theatrics. but everybody has a stab because nobody's happy. you have the in fight scpug see it's a very fractured party in terms of the prischmear trying to decide on a candidate. this isn't a surprise that this happened. somebody who is getting criticized heavily is poor john boehner is really coming out of this ruffled and not looking like he has the support of a unified party behind him, which i think is problematic. >> but beyond the pol -- politics, there is something ridiculous. we are now supposed to be happy that we have two months of a payroll tax cut so we can stage the old payroll tax cut debate again in another, whatever it is, 6 1/2 week when is it starts to count down again. >> showdown again. >> the whole thing to me, you know, living in washington, washington is up close, we are now locked into a perpetual, continuous game of brinksmanship. everybody says, oh, i'm not compromising. we have to come up to the very last hour. in this situation, the only reason we didn't get to december 31 was because it became so embarrassing and politically damaging for the republican party. but other than that, now, you know, you think back to the debt ceiling, the budget, everything goes in this mess. >> but is this -- is this just a particular foolishness -- you mention the the debt ceiling where he spent two months negotiating the equivalent of a day and-a-half savings or whatever it was. now we have the situation of hyper power, the dominant global nation on the planet, supposedly, legislating for two months. >> it's really embarrassing. it's shameful. this isn't a surprise to you that congress has the lowest approval rating in the history -- i mean, payput your head in shame, wear a wig, dark glasses and a hat, don't admit to be a member of this mess. what's wrong with you? we love the american people. we want to help you out. for what?! eight weeks! then what? get it together, people. >> kimberly is targeting something much larger, which is republican or democrat, a lot of americans think, we can't stand any of these. you are dysfunction a. you don't get things done. if a husband and wife are having an argument, somebody compromises and we move on. they seem to take pleasure in sticking in each others' eyes like children. >> it's more like kindergarten. >> why can't john boehner say, grownup people don't negotiate -- sit down and have a negotiation for two months? for over a two-month deal. who has time for that? >> we need a new sheriff in town or something. it's the o.k. corral. you are shot in the back by your own party and another faction's shooting fruthe left and you have to take cover from the right. who is on what side here? >> let me say -- >> is he done -- john bainer? >> this is the story that is coming i think, that hasn't been written, which is john boehner's leadership is threatened. it's almost untenable. it is clear that john boehner had a deal with mitch mcconnell, his republican fellow leader in the senate and they had a deal with the white house. okay. but boehner couldn't deliver. if you can't deliver, you are not in control of your troops. >> i am wishing he wishes he could crawl down into the canadian pipeline. thanks a lot. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> coming up, bret bozel is here to break down the most biased news reporting of 2011. the year in review mission of media mash. al qaeda reclaiming iraq, after more than a dozen explosions rip through bag baghdad. will they crumble back to chaos? 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and can they persuade him to stand with them and the sunnis and the shiites will be outnumbered and get malmalbychi to back down. vice-president biden has been on the phone for days now, without success. >> and general -- cia director petraeus is meeting with him yesterday. this will be a politically very difficult thing to do, to back down and reverse himself politically because he's never been interested in power sharing. he has his own authority impulses. >> isn't this whether the american politics -- what leverage do you have when the president has gone out there and given a big speech saying, that's it, we're over. >> instead of 50,000 or even 5,000 troops which an analyst said if we had left as little as 5,000 troops on the ground, we could have put them in key military positions and we could have at least maintained a sense of presence, which could have given the psychic stability to know that he wouldn't face a coup and for the government to maintain the power-sharing dynamic. >> there are dozens of countries with american military personnel. nobody knows why they are there or quite remembers whether we have people in the balkans, why did we have to say, okay, we have troops on monday, now it'sed tuesday and we don't. why did we need a clear divide? >> it was a political objective of this administration. this was a war that president obama never liked. he made no secret any t. he campaigned against it. and now that we were just literally on the verge of stablizing the country, he decided it was more important to have all the troops home by christmas than it was to ensure the long-term stability of iraq. you know, all you can say is having watched that ceremony, that heart-breaking ceremony of the, you know, taking down of the american flag and the declaration that the country ousts way to sovereignty and stability, have you to ask yourself, what about that? >> that's the word that john mccain got wrong in his quote. the ht president didn't say iraq was strong, stable and democratic. he said it was sovereign -- >> sovereign, self reliant and in theic. >> is it sovereign or have we expended blood and treasure? >> $800 billion in treasure, not to calculate the blood that's been spill bide americans for iraqi democracy. so this is the problem is the premise of the white house strategy has been that iraq -- remember when president obama ran, afraff was a good war and iraq was the bad war. their premise for iraq has been it needs to be a success. and the measure of success is our withdrawal. >> right. >> and now, how many days later, do we see the results? >> i am depending on iraqi nationalism, on iraqi patriotism to prevent iran from doing what it would like to do, which is to use malachi as a front boy here, the poster child for shiite power. i think that iraq, having fought so long, so hard against the iranians are not going to roll over and let iran start calling the shots. but the u.s. withdrawal and the way in which it was done does not maximize the prospects of success, as seen this week. >> that's a long shot, betting on the iracky nationalism. coming up, brent bozel hands out the awards for the most outrageous examples of media bias in 2011 in our year in review edition of media mash, up next. my name is robin. i'm a wife, i'm a mom... and chantix worked for me. it's a medication i could take and still smoke, while it built up in my system. 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>> it's never a dull moment. this year, i think we have 18 different awards we give out. we can't go through all of them. but these people -- it's the gift that keeps on giving. >> let's start with paul crugman, the economics correspondent at the new york times who tends to diverge from economic theory into -- into blunter instruments. >> a little melodramatic, you thought it would kill people? >> no question. >> the cuts in medicare, the replacem of medicare by a voucher system, would in the end mean that tens of millions of older americans would not be able to afford essential helt care. that's cruel to me. >> that's paul crugman saying that republicans are going to be pushing granny off the cliff. that's only one of several quotes you singled him out for? >> he won three awards. when it is not hate mongering, it's fear mongering. in this one he says, there is no question that paul ryan's policies will kill old people. you think about those endless lectures from the left over the years about hate mongering and fear mongering and civility. and they're always giving those lessons to sean hannity, anne coulter and paul says this kind of thing and the silence is deafening. he's a worm. i don't care about him. i care about the hypocrites who give him cover. >> speaking of civility, mike malloy, you gave him an award for proposing the seal team 6 on the way home from killing osama bin laden should drop off at george w. bush's pad and do the same thing to him? >> yeah. that's in essence what he said. this is the kind of thing that the far left says with abandon on talk radio. he actually called for seal team 6 -- now listen to this, folks. he called for seal team 6 to assassinate the president of the united states. and he got away with. >> it he's not the only one making these overheated comparisons. you have also had chris matthews in there. let's listen to what chris has to say. >> he has a good shot at winning the nomination, winning -- >> but he looks like a car bomber. he looks like a car bomber, clarence. he looks like a car bomb wer that crazy grin of his. he looks like he loves torturing. look at the guy -- this is not the face of a president. >> you know, i am not a newt fan, but i am not sure -- newt looks like a big cutledz -- cuddly, slightly older winnie the pooh. i don't know how many car bombers chris matthews has run into. >> how long do you think sean hannity's show would last if four times in one sentence he made a comment about saying the president of the united states and said that he looked like a skinny ghetto crack head? which by the way, you might want to say that barack obama does. everybody on the left will come forward and demand that he be fired within five minutes for being so insulting towards a leader of the united states. this is the kind of sthawf chris matthews -- who cares? he has 48 people watching him so we really shouldn't care. >> that's true. you have another one here. another one. this time, kibarely remember the guy's name. bibelieve he became a father today. congressman anthony weiner, tweeting up a storm and barbara walters decided to weigh in on his behalf. >> we had a president named bill clinton who went through a great deal of trouble, weathered the storm and is now not only rapid, but beloved by many people with a very good marriage. so i think anthony weiner should hang in there. he was a good congressman and maybe he can weather this and all be effective. >> i think anthony weiner should hang in there says bark -- says barbara walters. >> that's the point. you can name me 10 people in washington and new york that could look you with a straight face and say the clintons are the model of a good marriage? that's number 1. and point number 2, i think it was an unfortunate choice of words to say that anthony weiner should hang in there. i don't know. >> now, you also have a media millionaires award that you gave to bob sheafer from cbs news. >> why do these rich people need another tax cut? i mean, they're already rich. they seem to be doing pretty well. why cut their taxes some more? >> if the country is going bankrupt and needs to borrow 40 cents of every dollar that it pens, how do you reduce the amount of taxes that the richest people in the country pay? it would seem to be that's where you get revenue? >> bob sheafer, man of the people. >> welcome to socialism. there have you it. have you somebody on cbs, the anchor saying, in effect, your money doesn't belong to you, it belongs to the government and the government should decide how much of your money you get to keep. never did it enter his mind, it is not the government's money! it belongs to the people who earned it. crazy notion. >> you can't close the gap, even if you want -- when you are borrowing, you are spending $4 trillion and only raising $2 trillion, you can't close that gap even if gufor the people who are richer than bob sheafer. they don't have the mon three to close that gap and he should know that. >> bob sheafer should write a check if he thinks it's that important. i love the hypocrisy. they think you should send in yours. >> thanks a lot. have a great christmas. it will be a bumper crop in 2012, too. >> merry christmas. >> don't go anywhere, the great, great, great american panel is up next on "hannity." 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[chuckles] >> reign beer flatulence, cnn's on top of it. >> i don't know. has santa been riding in al gore's private jet? that part of the reason? we lava this. but i was a teacher for a long time. don't think they don't use this staff interest kids and capture their attention and it becomes an assignment on global warming i. oh, come on! although -- >> it happens. >> i am here to defend santa claus. that is 100% renewable energy. we know that about the reindeer. how many people are not burning in their fireplace so he can get down the chimney? i don't think it's a covert operation [overlapping dialogue] >> powered by the northern lights. >> actually, with all the global warming, let's face it, the north pole, the whole pole's going to melt and santa and his grotto will drown. that's great news -- he won't be able to destroy the environment any more. this is the joylessness of liberalism in a nutshell. >> and we have more with the great american panel. a couple of months ago, sean tried to teach me how to throw this ball in a manly, american way. instead of my girlie-boy way. i couldn't mg manage tso i brought my trust i afghan cricket handle. more up next on "hannity." 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[laughter] >> do you know what teems? >> i don't know anything about soccer, but i know a lot about self-defense, but if somebody rushed me, i would kick him. maybe it was one kick too many. but somebody rushes the field, you can't do that! that's trespassing. >> anybody, if you rush some minor congressman in that fashion and the congressman kicked your head in, everybody would be on the congressman's side. >> i think they would be. i think this is the right amount of kick. you have the air kick, the sweep and then the bam-bam, like the shock and awe. any more than that is bordering assault. this is obviously a strong kicker, kidney damage or something. >> wow. you are a real expert. >> you are saying a proportionate response that stops just short -- >> if this is an 8-year-old, let him go for 10 minutes. >> i am glad you are sitting next to her. >> i think the player getting kicked out is one of the -- i think it's a moment that soccer will never catch on in this country. frankly, had that happened to an american quarterback or a hockey player, he probably would have been shot. the fact that this player is kicked out of the game, defending himself, i think that's a sign that soccer's probably not going to catch on here. >> never. when america got into the world cup, 2002, and it was the only -- it -- the united states almost won, got into the semifinals, i think. you could still go into a sports bar and they said, no, no, let's watch the golden girls rerun. [laughter] >> the golden girls are awesome. >> i have to stand up for the ladies right now. >> i think in the united states, we have the attention deficit disorder. soccer takes so long to score a goal. >> and baseball -- >> you can get up and stretch. there are other things going on. >> and there is the guys with the dramatic fake injuries. you know? they fly out on the field, screaming now the pain. it's not american. >> you are saying it's like the histrionic italian movie extras, rolling around, howling. that's why this guy, you don't even know when the guy comes out of the crowd and assaults him and he's already to do his big moment -- >> you wouldn't see tom brady or tim tebow kicked out of a game. the football players play through concussions and mortal injuries. soccer players are down on the knee with a hurt knee. >> so this is turningn into, after we hailed the masterpiece there, they were okay. they are okay for the attack ads against obam a. but when it dwells kicking butt, you want to get real americans. >> do a real american's job. >> okay. >> instead of sterilizing him on the field. i think that's what he was trying to do there. >> the idea, i suppose, is that it is a kind of -- it's a european thing to err -- oh, no, he fought back. it was a disproportionate response, therefore, he has to be penalized and the team has to be penalized. isn't this the blue state/red state? red state, guy comes into the house, you shoot him in the back as he's fleeing, in self defense. and they hail you as the hero. you try that in new york city, that guy and you only wound the guy, he owns you the rest of his life. >> basically, we needed a conservative in there. a conservative would have finished the job and he wouldn't have been thrown out. >> is that what you are saying? >> yeah. we covered all the important issues. thanks a lot, guys. a very merry christmas to you. we will be back with more ann deer flatulence and the rest of it, live on boxing day. [laughter] >> we will have a christmas special tomorrow with sean and reindeer flatulence after christmas. that's all of our time this evening. you can follow me on twitter. and it isn't too late to buy

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