♪ >> hey everybody. >> hi everybody. >> should we point out the fact he's not wearing a belt now. >> clayton: no. >> forgot. >> we'll do that later. the latest on the debt ceiling debate. we are in dangerous territory regarding the debt ceiling. more in just a few minutes. >> also new details what happened in norway, we're starting to get creepy details this morning about this guy behind this attack and as juliet was saying a few moments ago, saying on a number of online rantings, interesting information, but coming out in the arrest saying, sure, i murdered a number of people, a couple. nearly 100 people, but it needed to happen. >> he said it was atrocious he admits, but said it was necessary. apparently he is cooperating with police. there in norway and looks like he's been working on this for a long time. apparently a manifesto, 1500 pages that detailed why he feels the way he does about certain things, including islam and so forth. >> dave: details emerging about the plot itself. appears it has similarities to oklahoma city, say it's a similar situation, it was a farming store, after all that alerted authorities that this man had purchased, i think, six tons of fertilizer and that was also us oohed in the oklahoma city. >> this 1500 page manifesto he had been planning, like working on a two volume piece about the islamization of europe. he says look, the united states has it fine. europe is where the trouble is. 20% of our country is suffering from islamization of our country and also talked about the oklahoma city bombing, and timothy mcveigh. four times in the rantings. the manifesto, 2083, a declaration of europe independence. >> he predicted that europe will soon, quote, burn again and wanted to rid europe of m sla and marxism and a sick individual, release add youtube video hours before killing all of these 92 norwegians and i guess it was something, he was wearing a wet suit with a machine gun. almost a militant style video. >> clayton: if that's not enough. here is one of his online rants. he says if the multi-culturalist elite of europe continue to refuse voluntary transfer political and military power to our conservative revolutionary forces then the second world war likely to go to appear as a picnic compared to the coming forces. >> not knowing who he was in july of 2009 he wrote about the muslim, this is again, to somebody he's talking to on facebook. he wrote about the muslim ghettocation process, they live in their own enclaves with little to no interaction with norwegian society. >> dave: joining us on the phone this morning. david john smith, living and raising his daughters in norway. good morning to you, sir, thank you for joining us. >> good morning, happy to be here under these circumstances of course, quite difficult. let me put this in context of the small country. first of all, it's a country of less than 5 million people that historically has been fairly isolated. so close bonds built up over the people over time and a level of trust and honesty here and then put that against the activities of the last couple of days, the nation is in deep disbelief and in deep shock, obviously. and the timing, the timing of the attack on friday at the governmental quarters, it coincides with the vacation period in norway and also the time at 3:20 p.m. i believe that this fellow knew that the people were not going to be at work. so, i think it was destruction of property and also the single effective attack on the government and of course hopped in the car and dressed as a policeman, again, wanting the trust of the people who again, these people are open and honest and gained the trust, yeah. >> you hit on something interesting there about the trust and seems to be a level of trust in norway and naivete, if you will, it's peaceful, very, very little gun violence. you're in a unique position, you're an american there. what's your perspective? you noted the differences here in the united states. what's the difference in norway, is there this naive nature there about violence? >> that's a good question. i run a company called norway communicates and the international environment and norway for many thousands of years before it was a country it was isolated and just in the last 50 years that the oil and gas ventures as they call it here, the really globalization of the country has begun, but hanging behind is this certain level of naive and wanting to trust people. i think that's what it boils down to. these people are very good at heart and obviously, with the governme governmental, a policy of giving quite a bit of money to, you know, foreign countries in need and this sort of thing and the immigrant policy that is quite liberal, the country wants to believe in the good side of people. and that, again, is the great shock that has just happened in the last 48 hours. i think the reaction at first was, people believed that it was a terrorist organization from abroad. and then it came of course, the information that it was one of their own, a highly educated young man who looks, talks, feels norwegian and this is where the disconnect happens here in the country because people can understand to a degree an attack on the government because that's something that happens rarely, but it does happen, but then going out and in cold blood tracking down, young, up coming, sharp labor party kids over a two hour period, the mind can't encompass that, it can't. >> our deepest sympathy in the united states as we continue to follow this story, thank you for joining us, david john smith, an american living and raising his kids in norway. >> dave: you wonder, guys, that trust that we talked about is gone now. certainly the country changes in terms of security. do they trust one another as they did 48 hours ago. >> one of the phrases used over and over again, so many in norway talk about the sort of loss of innocence now this country is feeling. >> let's turn our attention out to the debt ceiling back here at home. a major news out of washington, again, we thought at the 11 a.m. meeting yesterday, that we would actually see some progress, still no deal. not at all. but some news this morning, some real big news, actually, because speaker boehner, it seems, may have a plan that will come to fruition, before 4 p.m. this afternoon so that the asian markets aren't rattled and it will involve sort of a two pronged approach. >> yeah, but the most important part of the two step process clayton mentioned there's going to be a short-term extension involved and the democrats have objected to that, as you know, from the very beginning, the president, nancy pelosi, harry reid all three last night reiterating they will not support a short-term extension. so it appears we are playing with some serious fire on this sunday. >> what does john boehner do, comes up and hands over the paper work, they immediately say no. listen to this, thises what mitch mcconnell has to say about this. there is bipartisan agreement on the need to prevent fault and given the unprecedented size of the debt ceiling increase, the president is requesting, this is not an easy process. and the effort to prevent default while substantially reducing washington spending will continue. >> of course, all of the concern is about the asian markets and usually you can see this happen on a sunday. if you were concerned about american markets, concerned about what's going to happen here, you look to the asian markets as a bellwether and this is sort of like the deadline todayment 6 p.m. eastern time. the u.s. futures begin trading at 6 p.m. eastern time and the japanese markets open at 8 p.m. eastern time and then hong kong markets open at 10 p.m. so speaker boehner wants to get this in place ahead of the openings today. but again, there's disagreement. now it's disagreement with the timetable of all of this, right? president obama wants one extension through 2012 for the debt ceiling being raise. now speaker boehner comes forward with this, an extension through 2011, another vote in 2012, two votes. >> that's what the democrats are concerned about and definitively according to the president saying no to. and speaker boehner with ent if there yesterday and said, look, mr. president i'm going to be dealing now with the senate and house on this. you know, we're not playing ball anymore, the ball is out of the white house's court. >> the court analogy, no, the ball is in your court, the ball is in your court. no, i've got the ball. >> dave: two questions, one, can they get a deal. even if they get a deal, is it enough to get the credit standing where it is? there have been threats, even if we get a short-term extension, we could get a downgrade, disaster for your money and-- >> and standard and poor's that's not good enough for us for default nlt and the bigger question, whether speaker boehner can get the votes for this. the new freshman republicans, he needs democratic votes. >> nine days away, folks, it's happening fast and time is running out. let's get to some other headlines today. beginning with the bloody end to a birthday celebration in texas, such a horrible story. six people are dead, mostly teens and young adults after a gunman opened fire inside a roller rink. it happened in grand prairie, texas, suburb 15 miles west of dallas. police believe that the killer was related to many of the victims and argument with his wife. lost control, pulled out a pistol and nearby businesses reported children screaming and some running of out of the business and some swearing skates. it appears he turned the weapon on himself and police have not released any names involved in in case. two missing men in the wisconsin chippewa river. they were involved in a boat crash friday night and a ski boat apparently crashed into their pontoon-like boat. they were thrown into the water and driver of the speed boat was killed as was the passenger on the other boat and three people survived the wreck. investigators don't no what caused the death of singer amy winehou winehouse, the autopsy results won't be known for a few days, she was found dead in her on do done-- london apartment yesterday. ♪ >> you know, try and make me go to rehab, i said, no, no, no, and won the grammy by the way record of the year among many others and music was coupled with severe addiction to alcohol and to drugs. winehouse joins a long list of 27-year-old musicians who have died tragically just talking about that, jim morrison, janice joplin, kurt cobain, jimmy henfrix all 27 years old. he was a polish immigrant and helped guide the war and bosnia and tributes have been pouring in, president obama called the general a statesman. he was 75 years old. the heatwave not over yet, juliet. are you ready for the heatwave. >> it's like 100 already. >> clayton: it's almost going to be over, almost over. >> going to be 90's now, cooling down a little bit. after triple digits, how does 90 sound? and maria molina has the weather including some severe storms. >> the system that brings relief to the hot areas, northeast and parts of the great lakes is bringing in severe storms and we have incredible footage to show you out of chicago, we currently are in actually a flash flood warning because the storms drove through in the overnight hours and some areas up to four inches of rain and some flights canceled out of the region and localized flooding occurring throughout flooding some roads out there and we're expecting more storms already early this morning and additional one to two inches of rain can fall in that area and we have the radar image to show you, right now to the northwest of the city those will be moving through shortly. otherwise further off to the east, we already have the showers across portions of the interior northeast and it will continue to remain unsettled throughout the day today. very scattered stuff though, guys, don't expect a lot of heavy rain and expecting some of that monsoon moisture. here is a look at today's high. 91 the high in new york city and better from what we've seen the last couple of days and still another hot day. it won't be until monday that we'll see the release and by the way, dallas, texas, 104, and dave, at that would be the 23rd consecutive day of 100 degree weather. >> dave: brutal. absolutely brutal. thank you, maria. texas governor rick perry is generating buzz for potential run for 2012 and even called himself the commander-in-chief. >> and as the governor of the state of texas-- >> oops. joining us now is founder and chairman of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph, good morning to you, sir, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> dave: we've heard it used, a game changer, if rick perry were to get in. does it change the entire field? >> i think it's too early to tell, but rick perry is not to be underestimated. he'll be an impact player and he'll be a significant addition to this race and i think very uniquely, dave, he really is both a sort of cause oriented, conservative activist candidate who is going to be able to appeal to both social conservatives and tea party activists. and if you go back and you look at the exit polls from 2008, 41% of all the voters who cast ballots in republican presidential primaries nationwide were self-identified evangelical christians, clearly a part of the party. in addition, he's been a successful governor of the second largest state in earthquake m, -- america, so he has the profile of the candidates who is going to be able to raise money and get endorsements. i don't know if he's going to get into it or not, but sure looks like. >> dave: depending which number, with the recovery, the polls look better for rick p perry. without throwing his name is, he's showing up second including this poll, three points behind romney. is there had a void for the christian evangelicals, when mike huckabee our colleague, decided know the to run. >> i think there was. you've got a lot of people making a full-throated appeal for that vote for the obvious reasons that of' already alluded to, which is the huge number of votes that they represent. in iowa, by the way, in the caucuses, it will be 55 to 60% of the vote. i think that explains why michele bachmann catapulted so quickly. i think tim pawlenty is a guy to keep your eye on. i wouldn't count him in in an rv tour across iowa right now and as a professing evangelical and successful governor. he's going to make appeal, herman cain, rick santorum. that's the thing that perry has to be careful of. number one, the process has not been friendly to late entrants. he would certainly break that mold if he's able to do that and i think he may be able to. secondly, if that vote gets split four, five, six, seven ways, a lot of times as we saw with mccain in '08, it makes it easier for the front runner for lack of a better term, to maintain their primacy. >> dave: let me ask you about the front runner, mitt romney, obviously, a mormon and also john huntsman who is a mormon. is there in i discomfort, as far as those, evangelicals, any discomfort on their side of things in terms of supporting a mormon? >> i think you obviously don't have the same level of affinity that you would with a mike huckabee. i think that goes without saying. i think that huckabee was a guy who could speak with an enormous comfort level, not only about his own faith and his own spiritual journey, but he could also talk in a way that was both compelling and also inclusive about the moral agenda of the party and the cultural agenda. and that's important to these voters. mitt romney, i think, went through this fire four years ago and i think he addressed it. he think he talked about his faith. he got, you know, pinned a little bit for having changed his position on abortion and so forth. i think that's largely behind him. and he's making a real effort to appeal to these voters as well. four years ago he got 20% of these voters and i think he'll do at least that way, maybe better this time. >> well, if the economy plays into his hands there. that's my next question, with unemployment 9.2% and more than 15 million people out of work. how important should social issues be for republican voters? >> he think i think they're going to be important to the voters who matter. and this election clearly is going to be about jobs and the economy and more specifically, it's going to be a referendum on the failed stewardship of this presidency and the disastrous record of this administration on turning this economy around. so, whoever the republicans know many-- nominate. whether it's somebody in their wheel house, romney, had a background in finance and business, as does huntsman, or one of the other candidates, you mentioned perry being able to talk about job creation in texas, every one of these candidates has to remember, this is not just about appealing to the base, it's about going out there and talking to those voters who are hurting right now, because they've lost a job, a family member's lost a job or they've lost their home or are in danger of doing so. >> dave: a huge task whoever it isme it isment ralph reed. thank you for being with us. >> you've got it. >> dave: what's coming up. >> clayton: police and firefighters in one city told they have to give back half of their pension, a guy breaking it to the staff is here live. >> he tried to stiff her out of money after lying for 14 years, and now a change of heart for arnold schwarzenegger. >> clayton: and a movie that women have to drag men to go see. even the big action and zombie movies men love so much have a bit of a chick flick in them. say it ain't so. you've got to hear this. >> you say it so cynically. >> i completely disagree. >> oh, please. he's wrong. i'm right. ♪ [ male announcer ] walls can talk. but it's our job to make them say sothing interesting. so how about this weekend we learn some new tricks of the trade... then break out our doing clothes and get rolling. let's use some paint that helps us get the job done in record time and makes a statement when we're finished. we're lowering the cost of a new favorite color. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. glidden premium paint has been rated a best buy, and you can only get it at the home depot. glidden premium paint has been rated a best buy, diabetes testing? 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