Lives. Welcome back doctor and good afternoon to you. Is there any way i need to know this answer in the month of april right now . Knowing what, and the things we need to do now to make our society safer and be able to open as soon and as safely as possible. We are all inpatient to go out again, we need to restart our economy and society but if we do that too soon it will backfire. You see that big, this is catastrophic. Hundreds of deaths every day. This is the sound of ambulance sirens a day and night and thats the potential, if we dont get it right. Bill dr. Birx was asked about the second wave last night at the briefing at the white house and heres how she characterized that specifically with regard to new york and elsewhere. I dont know if it will be worse, i think this has been pretty bad. When you see what has happened in new york, that was very bad. I believe we will have a Early Warning signals both from our surveillance that weve been talking about in the vulnerable population. Statements of the way she characterizes it, how could it be worse . Weve all been put on warning so far today. It could get a lot worse. So far the vast majority of americans havent been infected and, we cant make a real big difference here. We need to make sure Health Care System is stronger, and we protect patients so they can survive. And we also need to protect our vulnerable elderly and vulnerably medical people. And we are a lot better about that than we were before find anyone who was infected and self isolate those people for a period of 14 days. You are also protecting those who have hurt issues. We have to see who is most vulnerable. The older you are on average, the more likely you are to get severely old from this virus. When i think about my 90yearold mother, she used to be in a couple of choirs. Shes not going back to those choirs anytime soon because thats just too risky. We have recognized people with uncontrolled diabetes and other underlying conditions that are more severely affected, and all of us are going to have to Work Together to protect the most vulnerable among us. Bill when you look at some of the states, what should they be considering now as they try to reopen . I think this is a hard decision, follow the data and we have to understand its a risky experiment to open early. Thats why its so important that we strengthen our Public Health system and we protect our vulnerable and we are ready to close again if we have to, to avoid the kind of catastrophic spread. After these agreements there are always a lot of who won and who lost. Bill and Mitch Mcconnell will join us in a few moments, providing billions for Small Businesses and hospitals and testing. The house could vote on that bill tomorrow. I want to bring in martha maccallum. Nice to see you. Good afternoon to you. What is your sense for how washington is doing . I think you are starting to get conversations about these next tranches and where the money goes. You are getting a closer look at where the money is going and scrutiny on where the money is going. I know we will discuss Harvard University which is one of the Big Questions and examples and it almost feels like in the first round we had the Kennedy Center. And people said, wait a minute. Why is the Kennedy Center in this emergency bill to help businesses get through this tough time . Those questions questions are rising about the second tranche and i think you will get even more scrutiny going forward. I know Mitch Mcconnell, and i know you are speaking to him in a moment said hes open to the idea of bankruptcy for states. What you are hearing on the policy side is what they want, they want more of that money to save the states. And they should be allowed to go into bankruptcy protection and its a valid question. To bill i saw this a bit earlier today, for the First Time Since 1945. It just really makes you swallow hard. You mention harvard, i guess these are the moral hazards you get when you are handing out hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars at one time. We will see whether or not they hang onto this money. What is your view about harvard with regard to dozens if not hundreds of higher places who got money as well . On one hand when the word goes out, if you are running the finance of these institutions, you will apply for it. On the other hand you got harvard which has a 40 billion Endowment Fund and they laid off about 300 of their cafeteria employees in the early stages of this. If they use some of that Endowment Fund to cover this, i think at 700,000 in cost, i heard Charles Payne say earlier today, that would be a drop in the bucket for their endowment. Harvard has also long been working toward the model where they are tuition free. So you do have to raise these questions about where this money is going on how much scrutiny but i think you have to raise it at the level of when these bills are being written and the plans are being written. I dont think you can blame businesses and institutions for applying. And they are the ones that put the money in there in the first place. Harvard has been allocated funds as part of they act Higher Education relief fund. They will be used to provide direct assistance to students facing urgent financial needs due to the covid19 pandemic. You could find hundreds if not thousands of recipients. And we might right now be just at the tip of the iceberg theres all this money being thrown at so many businesses and institutions and i know there are some businesses that are trying to get out and cant get it and i hope the money gets to those that need at the most. We are going to have a reckoning. We are entering a zone where we will be 25 trillion in debt, and thats one that we will wrestle with in the months following the darkest days of all of this. I think its going to be one that has some reckoning moments as well as we try to get the economy back on track. Theres nothing that is going to help businesses survive more than getting back to business. Bill Steven Mnuchin said we will see in time who gets the money or those who needed more with the Endowment Fund. Martha, we will see you at 7 00 east coast time, thanks for coming on today. As we mentioned, a 484 billion relief package goes to the house tomorrow. But first i will speak with the Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell about that, lots of questions for him coming up momentarily. You got hundreds of protesters pushing to reopen virginia and the governor says they are putting people at risk. Some inmates have been released over coronavirus concerns and will tell you why. 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The New York Post also reports that the more than 50 inmates who were rearrested after being let go, some had been freed yet again. Since midmarch some 1500 inmates have been released in new york city to reduce crowding in jails an end in an effort to prevent coronavirus outbreaks. But there is concern given the uptake and crimes in the city. And thats 50 compared to the same week last year. That blamed in part, the states new bail reform law for increasing and stay free on the streets. And with the existing law, whats happening is the individuals are being released immediately and thats something that ultimately in the end has to be fixed. The 1500 inmates released, they are releasing nonviolent offenders and they would priority focus on those more susceptible to covid19. So here in new new york, here at the Queens Borough correctional facility the aclu says 120 inmates at least have died of covid19 nationwide. 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But it was in fact delayed by democratic maneuvers. And we put 310 billion in two replenish the program for Small Businesses which ran out of money 12 days ago. We also added 75 billion for hospitals and we know they are struggling. Probably even more important to the outcome of 25 billion for testing. We have really developed kind of a Manhattan Project approach to testing because we know that even when the governors begin to open up the economy, as in my view they should begin to do, and when hospitals are allowed once again to do elective surgery which is the only place they make any money, we can begin to get out of this malaise by bringing the economy back to life. Spivey one we will ask about that in a moment, but thats what she said, she made the bill better because the testing on the billions that are no available for hospitals. Thats a point she was making. And we are all interested in that and none of that was in contention. What they really wanted to do was to pass legislation to send money to local governments and what i said was we are not going to do that, we will wait and take a pause, and we will assess the future potential damage to the country by adding 2. 7 trillion to the national debt. The next time we consider, shall i say, phase four, all the members of the senate are back, which would be the earliest may 4th. We are not interested in in revenue for state governments, we are not interested in solving their pension problems and all these other things that they would like for us to finance. To that point, mayor bill de blasio said he wants washington to provide 7. 4 billion to help new york. Thats just the city. Are you saying today that will not happy that that will happen . What im saying is, we will take a pause here at least until may the 4th which is the time they will have everyone back in the senate, and clearly before we provide assistance to state and local government and make sure that they have no revenue losses. And make certain that if we provide additional assistance for state and local governments its only for coronavirus related and they arent taking advantage of this pandemic, solving problems with themselves and bad decisions in the past. Do you see the senate coming back to work on the 4th of may . Thats the current plan. Bill so how do you see or what to forecast what could be in the next bill, or the next tranche of hundreds of billions of dollars . Of the first thing is to decide whether there needs to be another tranche. The ultimate solution to this is to get the economy back up and running. For example, is already doing it to mix up the directions, and the solution to the hospital problem is elective surgery which is the only place they are making any money, thats a state decision. So all of us will be encouraging our states to begin to move in the direction of getting back to normal, bearing in mind of the advice of dr. Fauci and dr. Birx. Social distancing, the destigmatization of wearing a mask, no one should be embarrassed to wear a mask, and less is back in and solve the problem by getting growth back in our economy. Bill one last thing. And what word would you use to describe that . How would you describe what the efforts have done so far. Off of capitol hill . Ive tried to deal with a disaster but anytime you throw 2. 7 trillion out over a short period of time, and there were mistakes made. Thats the impact on the count country, all of this country needs to be considered in a more thoughtful and more measured w way. Bill thank you senator Mitch Mcconnell. 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