gillian turner outside the hearing room. good morning. >> good morning. lots of excitement and tension awaiting the arrival of google's ceo. many thought this would never happen on this committee. google first declined to participate in a hearing along with his contemporaries in september. those were the ceos of twitter and facebook and this hearing got scheduled for last week but because of the passing of george h.w. bush that hearing got postponed. speaking to folks on capitol hill a lot of them think he is starting out on the wrong foot. >> there is no other company that has a greater control over the internet on searches than google. google has not been coming to our hearings. twitter, facebook and others. 90% of all internet searches goes through google. >> on the agenda data privacy and google's mega project with china called project dragonfly building a tailored search engine that conforms to china's censorship. democrats plant to grill him about fake news and inaccurate information on the search engine. republicans zero in on anti-conservative bias. the ceo will confirm google is on board with more federal regulation and say we recognize the important role of government in setting rules for the development and use of technology. to that end we support federal privacy regulations. so sandra and bill, tough questions coming at google ceo from all directions this morning. we'll keep you updated on everything as it unfolds. >> bill: thanks gillian live on the hill. more on the hearing as it begins. one of the people asking the questions is andy biggs coming up in about 28 minutes. >> sandra: meanwhile the border funding battle heads to the white house this morning. top democratic leaders nancy pelosi and chuck schumer will be meeting with president trump as he fires off a series of tweets this morning about the need for his border wall. senator lindsey graham urging the president to stand firm on funding it. >> dig in, don't give in. get the $5 billion. put daca on the table. make them say no to wall funding and relief for the daca recipients. stay strong, mr. president. you're on the right side of this issue. >> sandra: kellyanne conway joins us in a moment but we'll start with kevin corke on the north lawn. >> i think the goal would be to get the democrats today, do a bit of horse trading if you will, maybe wall funding in exchange for maybe a movement on daca, for example. keep this in mind. important as you look at the overall picture, the 30,000 foot view. with the race for the leadership on the democratic side coming up over the capitol, speaker of the house. it is highly unlikely you'll see a great deal of movement from the democrats. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. but the president for his part remains optimistic. he sent this on twitter. he said i look forward to my meeting with chuck shierm -- schumer and nancy pelosi. he says in 2006 democrats voted for a wall and they were right to do so. today they no longer want border security. they will fight it at all costs. nancy must get votes for speaker but the wall will get built. he goes on to say this. people don't realize how much of a wall, including really effective renovation has already been built. if the democrats don't give us the votes to secure our country the military will build the rest of the section of the wall. there is question if they can build a wall. maybe they can help secure it by way of national guard. that's another issue. still the wall is said to be and rightly so, the sticking point. democrats coming into power as you know and so we've talked a bit about this idea of a shutdown, sandra. if that happens the calculation is they might be the ones to suffer for it. >> the president by the way was willing to put a lot of things on the table to negotiate with democrats in exchange for wall funding. they walked away and said they don't want to do anything because the extreme left doesn't want to do anything because they want open borders. that's the dilemma where nancy pelosi is now. >> president trump wants to throw a temper tantrum and shut down the government over christmas over the wall. that's his decision. >> we love when we get read-outs after big meetings. we expect one today and i'll pass along the details once i do. >> sandra: thank you, kevin. >> bill: let's bring in kellyanne conway, senior counsel to the president. how are you? good morning. welcome back to "america's newsroom." nancy pelosi, chuck schumer starts in about 90 minutes, two hours from now. how concerned is the white house about a shutdown? >> look, border security, national security, the president's first and primary duty is to keep the american citizens safe and he is trying to do that here. i like what kevin reminded us, that in 2006 we had something called the secure fences act. let me go through some of the 26 democratic senators who voted for that 12 years. schumer, clinton, biden, obama. when politics were involved and national and border security were on their minds they did the right thing and hope they'll do the right thing here. the democrats have a question in front of them. do they want to keep the government open or the borders open? >> bill: funding for the wall is at stake. $5 billion in a house bill. 1.6 billion in the senate bill. nancy pelosi referred to 1.3 billion. i don't know what the numbers are or where they're going. >> the house bill is what the president asked for. not just a physical wall plus. people should read his tweets this morning. he said walls work. we know in el paso, uma, for example, san diego, when walls were built you saw a decrease in the number of illegal aliens coming over across those walls. the president has also made a legacy issue and huge priority of his administration stopping the flow of drugs over our southern border. it is poisoning and killing 72,000 americans a year. and so much of that flows through the southern border. it is not just about the people but the poison coming into our communities. the apprehensions of gang members, seizures of fentanyl and deadly drugs are way up under this president. his methods are working. the money is important but it is also beyond symbolism here. we saw what happened with the migrant caravan. so many predictions and hysteria and people in the democratic party were completely false. i feel very badly for so many of those migrants who were promised that could not be delivered to them. they were lied to by people who probably took their money and imperiled their safety and security but this president is willing to work across the aisle with leader schumer and we guess speaker pelosi. she has a critical decision to make. she doesn't have the votes necessarily for speaker. it has been tough for her to get them. what has she promised some of these socialist leaning democrats in her caucus to become speaker? a good question. walls work, walls plus. it is also border security is national security. central question, the president wants to close the borders and keep the government open. the question for the democrats are do they agree? >> waters run deep in the meeting today. a couple other things. we talked about the mueller matter before. you've referred me to the president's private attorneys. i'm not going to ask you in a legal sense. this isn't the proper form to give an answer. how is he doing since friday? >> the president is great. i spend a lot of time with the president since friday. traveled with them and saw them on sunday, was with him yesterday. the president is doing his job as president and as commander-in-chief. he cannot be distracted and allow other things to get in the way of the democratically elected president keeping us peaceful and prosperous in this country. he is excellent at doing that. it is business as usual. we have a lot going on in the lame duck session. the farm bill went to conference and our secretary of agriculture saying it's a positive step forward for the certainty for our farmers, for agricultural invasion and research and development. this is a good thing to build on. the president is also working on criminal justice reform. >> bill: no change is what i think the answer is, right? >> no change. but if you study president trump you see that. somebody is able to continue in his work. >> bill: you have a chief of staff for hire. that's his call as well. when is that decision made, do you believe? >> that's up to the president and when the president -- there are 10 people being considered. >> bill: what is he looking for in the job? >> the current chief of staff general john kelly he has been decades of public service. from this 29-year-old congresswoman who don't seem to know much about anything. really embarrassing and for her to even use a slur against him yesterday -- i won't repeat her name or the slur. let me stand up for general john kelly. he has done a magnificent job for this country for almost 50 years including here at the white house as our chief of staff for about a year and a half. before that secretary of homeland security from day one and four star general and all-star dad. he will stay on the job through january 2 at least. i think there will be a very peaceful and pragmatic transition to the next chief of staff. the president has many people who want to serve here. >> bill: will he stay past the january 2? >> that's up to the president and chief of staff john kelly. they love this country and want there to be a transition to the next leader here. something about the role of chief of staff that doesn't get covered enough. they focus too much on the chief part. the person who is with the principal most often. the person who is interfacing with the rest of the cabinet, for example. the staff part is also important. i think general kelly has done a great job making sure that different meetings were staffed, making sure that the staff knew what was happening at all times. and so the chief part is important but the staff part is important as well. he need somebody who he trusts and loyal to the country. >> bill: i'm out of time. thank you for yours. hope you come back soon. we'll see when the call is made. >> sandra: fox news alert. former trump campaign chairman paul manafort battling back against claims he lied to federal investigator for d.o.j. official tom dupree will join us live next on that. >> bill: theresa may is trying to salvage for plan for brexit. what will come of this? 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>> you can see the president taking a number of different tax. he could deny he had involvement in it or the payments were made. based on that tweet you highlighted it seems as though his defense would be a legal one. to say he is not denying he was involved in the payment but he is saying it wasn't a campaign contribution. it was more of a personal expense and didn't violate the law. that's where he is going. >> bill: by law if you use your own money is that illegal? >> well, it depends what you are using it for. if you're using it to contribute to a campaign you would need to follow all the disclosure laws and those sorts of things. if it's a personal expense. something he was paying to get himself out of a dicey personal situation, that wouldn't necessarily trigger all the campaign finance disclosure rules. that's the issue here. same with john edwards. >> bill: with stormy daniels working for his campaign i guess the answer is, no right? >> similar to the john edwards situation where prosecutors went after him for being involved in a scheme to pay of various women involved with him acquitted or a mistrial. when you make a payment of this nature is it properly described as a campaign contribution or personal expense? >> bill: "wall street journal" from yesterday. bill clinton lied in a legal proceeding. democrats defended him. goodlatte trying -- do you believe it's ultimately headed? >> i think the tribunal that will make a decision in the near term will be the congress of the united states through impeachment proceedings. that's not to say he will be impeached or convicted. i don't think the justice department will indict him. ultimately i the president's fate will rest with the house of representatives and the united states senate. a 2/3 requirement to remove a president from office following impeachment in the senate. that's a high bar as the bill clinton history taught us. >> bill: nice to talk to you. 20 past the hour now. >> sandra: next hour our headline he were will be former independent counsel ken starr. he will join us live. secretary of state mike pompeo meanwhile with strong reaction after two russian bombers end up in venezuela. we're live with this developing story next. er my a1c. because my body can still make its own insulin. and i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. it comes in a once-weekly, truly easy-to-use pen. and it works 24/7. trulicity is an injection to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. don't use it as the first medicine to treat diabetes, or if you have type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, you're allergic to trulicity, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, or severe stomach pain. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases your low blood sugar risk. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and decreased appetite. these can lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. to help lower my a1c i choose trulicity to activate my within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. unstopand it's strengthenedting place, the by xfi pods,gateway.. which plug in to extend the wifi even farther, past anything that stands in its way. ...well almost anything. leave no room behind with xfi pods. simple. easy. awesome. click or visit a retail store today. >> bill: accused russian spy cooperating with federal authorities. prosecutors as part of a plea deal. a source familiar telling fox news she will admit to acting as an unregistered foreign agent. she gathered intelligence on u.s. officials through contacts with the nra. the hearing is set for her tomorrow afternoon. >> sandra: fox news alert on the five marines missing off the coast of japan. they have been declared dead after a near week-long search. the u.s. marine corps officially ending their search today after making, quote, every possible effort to recover the servicemen following a deadly midair collision. lucas tomlinson live at the pentagon this morning. do you know what caused the crash? >> sandra, officials say it appears the marine f-18 came in too fast and collided with the k c-130 refueling plane. 28 service members have been killed in aviation accidents this year. midair refueling is dangerous especially so because this one took place at 2:00 in the morning. the pilot would have been wearing night vision goggles. it took place 200 miles off the coast of japan thursday. the japanese prime minister sent his condolences to president trump. two were able to eject but the pilot later died. his back seater survived with broken bones. all five marines aboard the k c-130 refueling plane are pronounced dead. their names will be released tonight, sandra. >> sandra: lucas, we're hearing russia has sent bombers to venezuela on a separate note. when is the last time they did this? >> sandra, it has been five years and 2008 before that. a pair of russian supersonic 160 black jock bombers departed an air base from russia and flew to venezuela. u.s. intelligence community was watching the flight. the same bombers that launched cruise missiles into syria to crush rebellion for many years supported by the u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo responded the russian and venezuelan people should see this for what it is. squelching liberty and freedom while their people suffer. >> sandra: lucas tomlinson at the pentagon for us this morning. thank you. >> bill: 26 past. one of the top stories of the day. awaiting a hearing on capitol hill. the head of google about to take questions about political bias in privacy. congressman andy biggs will be in the room for the hearing and tell us what he expects to hear and the questions he will ask coming up next. >> bill: 9:29. 60 seconds away. trading about to get underway in wall street. markets look to bounce back a little bit from yesterday. yesterday was interesting, wasn't it? oh my. i don't know, we were down, we were up. i think it was about 600 point swing either way, right? finished up toward the end. >> sandra: we're 30 seconds away from trading. a big day for technology as google is in focus. we'll get back to our top story in a moment. watching those shares that have taken the biggest hit in recent weeks in the sell-off. some are technology names and so here we are tuesday of another wild week. >> bill: i was trying to find this. the bell. trying to find the tweet from an hour ago. president said very productive conversations going on with china. watch for some important announcements. didn't give a date or time but maybe that's today. we shall watch it, right? >> sandra: already a 330 point jump in the dow first few seconds of trading. a lot of optimism. >> bill: my neck is soar. nice to see. 24,741 at 9:30 in new york. >> sandra: sundar pichai will testify about a congressional committee. here is part of his prepared statement saying i led this company without political bias and worked to insure that our products continue to operate in this way. to do otherwise would go against our core principles and business interests. we are oef a company that provides platforms for diverse perspectives and opinions and have no shortage of them among our own employees. let's bring in house judiciary committee member andy biggs. thank you for coming on this morning. a big day today. how did you perceive that statement from the google ceo? >> it's exactly what i expected and i think words are cheap but actions speak louder than words. we have everything from email chains to former employees talking about political bias. there is also bias against their competitors, whether it's the payday loan business and what they're doing in china. >> sandra: what is your tolerance for political buy as within a company like this? would it be okay if they said this exists? >> i don't want to regulate them. i want the market to regulate them. it would be better if they came out and said look, we have this political bias. our vice president is doing all he can to help democrats get elected. we have other people trying to get latinos out for hillary clinton and it is organized. it isn't just a simple matter of one person here and there. it is organized within the company. if that's the case be transparent about it and let the market say i don't want to be affiliated with that company and other places to do my searches. >> sandra: he didn't show up last time. he will be there today. you will be in the room and what will you ask him? >> i will ask him about competition and also about liability and human rights violations. if google, for instance, is data sharing and providing censorship resources for the chinese government who has millions of people in political prison does he think he should be criminally liable for that? i have think that's important to get from him. >> sandra: the leaked emails. you've referenced them that show google employees plotting to ban breitbart from google ad sense which dominates the digital advertising market. this would have a devastating affect on the site's ad revenue. what did you make when you learned of those -- that the leaked emails and what they showed? >> it showed me that there is an organized effort to quash anti-liberal or anti-google sentiment. google has this bias and want to crush you if you don't agree with them. it isn't just breitbart. western journal and some other. we have an overt expression of political bias and using this incredible monopoly system that they have of searching to crush their competitors. political competitors. that's a real problem in a free republic like we have. >> sandra: so we'll learn a lot more here. the timing is really interesting on all of that, right? apparently they were speaking to block breitbart less than one month after president trump took office. that will be key coming from lawmakers. got to ask you about the incoming house judiciary chair jerry nadler talking about the allegations made in the michael cohen memo. he said if true they're impeachable offenses and some talking about jail time for the president. what do you make of these suggestions coming from your colleagues in the house? >> there is a lot of them. first of all just remember the day after president trump won the election democrats were already seeking to impeach him and filed three resolutions to impeach president trump. the second thing i would say is this is an s.e.c. violation that allegedly an s.e.c. violation. we don't know that. they're jumping the gun and jumping to conclusions and i think it's for political purposes in my opinion. >> sandra: we'll see how all that goes. house judiciary committee is front and center today with the google hearing. now ask you about mark meadows, the possibility of white house chief of staff. you felt the need to put out a statement backing mark meadows for chief of staff. why are you coming out in such big support of this possible move by the president? >> well, i think mark meadows first of all has the talent and capacity to do this. second i think one of the things that has hindered president trump there have been filters of information to him. i think mark meadows sees the world in some ways similar to the president as far as political ideas. i think that would be important to have somebody there who is hiring people, who is working with the president, and can converse with the legislative branch as well. i think all those things are critical. i think it would be very beneficial for president trump as we go into the 2020 election cycle and need to shore up what we're trying to do in the presidency and legislative branch. >> sandra: how do you respond to the criticism of the president that the need for a change in personnel in the white house and shake-ups a couple years in. this is not the only president to change chief of staff in the first term in office. how do you respond to that sort of criticism? >> i hear it but quite frankly i think a change is due and i think that mark brings a fresh view to it. but look, it is not unusual to bring in people and i think that, you know, he had someone that i'm not sure was the best for him to begin. i think mr. kelly has done a great job at stabilizing things but i think mark meadows brings in new energy and invigorate the office with the ideas the president wants to get through and his agenda. >> sandra: a big day ahead of you. we appreciate your time on "america's newsroom" this morning. thank you. >> bill: overseas now. is there a potential disaster looming for theresa may? the head of the e.u. says there is no room for renegotiation. what will come of this? we're watching it from london. how does the prime minister plan to break the deadlock over brexit? >> by delaying that vote she is hoping to buy more time to find a solution and today she is visiting european leaders to get the re assurances which might convince people back home to support her. she is having lunch with merckel in berlin. she wants to reword the brexit deal to make it more acceptable to her own parliament but expectations are low that any significant changes to be made to the document. the e.u. says the deal is done. >> the deal we have achieved is the best deal possible, the only deal possible. no room whatsoever for renegotiation. >> now with the e.u. so reluctant to rework that deal, it seems highly unlikely that these meetings are going to change an awful lot for the prime minister. >> bill: kitty logan. we're watching it. thank you from london today. >> sandra: the lakers defeating the heat last night 108-105 in a final showdown between lebron james and dwyane wade. it was wade's last game in los angeles before his retirement tend of the season. they hugged and swapped jerseys at the end of the game. >> bill: we do that at the end of my show. i give her my jacket and she gives me a handbag. did i get out of that one okay? republican lawmakers pushing the president not to give up on the fight for border security. >> we need to get this worked out. i don't think the president is bluffing. some folks around here seem to be missing the point. >> bill: president trump is meeting with top democratic leaders this morning. can they get a deal? what comes of a meeting like this. josh hawley brand-new to the senate is our guest out of washington, d.c. right here. >> sandra: amazing rescue caught on an officer's body kam as they run into a burning building. we believe at newday usa we have a noble purpose. our purpose is not just closing a loan. we want to do whatever's best for the individual service-person. we want to be known as america's mortgage company for veterans and active-duty service people, and they and their families. we're the ones there to help them. people are doing hard, arduous, difficult, dangerous things. some of them are giving their lives right now, today, for the freedoms that we have here in this country. they're willing to do that for you, for me, and for our family. so for us, at newday, to have the opportunity to turn around and help those people at this point in time. it's a labor of love, it's a noble service, and that's what we're all about. ♪ >> sandra: a daring rescue captured on camera by police in new jersey. it shows officers in new brunswick saving a family from a burning second floor apartment building with flames closing in. one officer climbing up to the balcony to lower down some of the family members that were inside. an off duty officer stepped in to helped pull two adults and two young children to safety. >> we need to get this worked out. i don't think the president is bluffing. i think he is prepared -- he is losing patience. at some point patience is no longer a virtue and i think he is just about there on the border wall. >> bill: senator john kennedy pushing congress to get a deal done on the border wall as the president gets ready to meet with top democrats at the white house. that happens this morning. paul ryan speaks this morning. we're watching all this. missouri senator elect josh hawley is live in washington, d.c. good morning and thank you for your time here on "america's newsroom." >> thanks for having me. >> bill: how does it feel to be in d.c. after your victory in d.c. >> it's great. an honor to take the people of missouri's voice to the senate. >> bill: it gets kind of swampy and be on the lookout for that. what do you think gives with the border wall? >> the democrats need to give the president what he wants. he needs -- he campaigned on a border wall. i can tell you it was a big issue in my election just now in the state of missouri. it is imperative we get the fundsing for the wall and the president's request is a reasonable one. i hope the democrats respect the will of the people and moving this process forward. >> bill: spending in a big deal, too. a statement from nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. our country can't afford a trump shutdown. the president knows full well that his wall proposal doesn't have the votes to pass the house and senate and shall not be an obstacle to a bipartisan agreement. how do you counter the trump shutdown? >> it is their responsibility to do what the voters of this country want. certainly the voters of my state. they are the ones. they have the power, bill, to agree to what the president is proposing. the republicans stand ready to get funding for this wall. the president has been patient. a long time coming. the voters have been patient but very clear it's what they want. time for the democrats to stop obstructing and get something done. >> bill: the president said people don't realize how much of the wall and renovation has already been built. if the democrats do not give us the votes to secure our country the military will build the remaining section of the wall. they know how important it s. i haven't been down there in sometime but already been built. is that to suggest some of it has been effective? >> the president has taken measures sending troops to the border. toughening up border secure to do what he can to secure the border. it has been two years. the american people have been very patient. the voters sent folks to congress to act and get things done. now it's time to get the border wall funded for the democrats to stop obstructing and to move the process forward. >> bill: let's see what happens when we watch that meeting from the white house. you come to washington at a very interesting time. a letter penned by 44 former senators. what they argue is that the mueller report is about to conclude and then the democrats in the house are about to commence whatever they decide to do. here is part of the statement from the letter. the critical moments in our history when constitutional crisis have threatened our foundations it has been the senate that stood in defense of the democracy today and today is again such a time. how do you reflect on that as you begin your time there at age 38? >> well listen, if the special counsel has evidence of collusion, which is what he is supposed to be investigating, he ought to come forward with it. he has had a good deal of time to investigate and spent millions of taxpayer dollars, a fleet of lawyers working for him. if he has evidence let's have it. otherwise let's wrap the investigation up. i'm for congress doing its job. the special counsel needs to do his job. if he has the evidence, let's see it. >> bill: one more point. back home in missouri some people are pushing back against you making suggestions during your campaign that you directed certain employees who were paid by the state to work on your behalf. i've already heard from some in missouri calling it an act of political harassment. what do you call it? >> a democratic group. a former hillary clinton staffer that filed lots of complaints against me during the last campaign. this is from the last campaign. they didn't want me to beat claire mccaskill but i did. now it's time to get on with the people's business and that's what i'm going to do. >> bill: how do you respond to the allegations? >> it's totally false. completely false in every particular. just like -- i think it's seven different complaints the democrats filed against me in the last year and a half. not one has been successful and i will not be deterred. >> bill: welcome to washington thank you for your time here. >> sandra: we have the arrival of the google ceo on capitol hill this morning. sundar pichai. he has arrived to appear before congress for the very first time. he was the empty seat who did not show up at a hearing where he was invited. >> what is your main goal for today's hearing? >> i don't believe he answers any questions there but we do know the key questions for lawmakers will center around censorship, as far as chinese censorship, obviously any sort of conservative bias that exists inside of that company, and a lot of the privacy practices. these are going to be the big questions. you heard congressman biggs of the house judiciary committee. he will be in that room and he has a lot of questions and a big moment for the big technology giant. new details meanwhile on the missing colorado mom who hasn't been seen since thanksgiving day. the new lead police are now tracking down. >> bill: also big brother is watching. new report suggests in the apps on your phone may be tracking your every move. you think? 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well, these apps sell information to companies who can go to another company like chipotle and say this cell phone was up to five times a month in november at taco bell. you might show this cell phone an ad. one of the biggest takeaways "the new york times" was able to figure out who that cell phone, meaning the person's name that belonged to the cell phone, which most people say isn't possible. "the new york times" was able to do it. >> sandra: hemmer and i have had this discussion recently. turn off all your location, identification, yeah, exactly, of your apps. i don't want to let any of these applications know who i am, where i am going such as map services or whatever it might be that automatically gives that away. your photos. you go in there and there is a map of your photos on iphone. can you turn it off? >> you can. a lot of people don't want to because they say well, this app will give me the latest sports in this area that i'm in or the latest news or weather. and then sometimes apps don't really tell you what they're using that information for. they are promising you the world but they don't tell you in that little icon that you get when they ask if you want to turn on your location data they're selling your information to other companies. and the way "the new york times" found out who people were was that they just looked at that data and said all right, this cell phone is in this particular location. every single night it must be that person's home and then you can look up who bought that house and that's as easy as it is. companies that use this data are not interested in who the person s. it's basically broad strokes and making money. but you can figure out who belongs to a cell phone if you want to. >> sandra: what else will they do with your personal information? that's the growing question from all of this. >> bill: they're always watching, ladies, admit it. two big events next hour. first google. you never know what happens in these hearings. facebook a few months ago, google ceo testifies for the first time and we'll bring you that live once it begins there. plus nancy pelosi and chuck schumer go to the white house for their meeting with the president. what comes of the wall and of the government shutdown. these are big issues on the table today and we'll cover it at the top of the hour. n. now i'm doing more to lower my a1c. once daily 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google has this bias and want to crush you if you don't agree with them. we have an overt expression of political bias and using this incredible monopoly system that they have of searching to crush their competitors. >> bill: mike emanuel leads our coverage. what do we expect from the google ceo today? >> we expect to hear the google ceo defend the integrity of the tech giant saying it doesn't have a bias against conservatives. he is expected to say we work hard to insure the integrity of our products and put a number of checks and balances in place to insure they continue to live up to our standards. i lead this company without political bias and work to insure our products continue to operate that way. the google ceo arrived on capitol hill a short time ago ahead of this hearing. a big question going forward is how house democrats will handle oversight of tech when they take the gavel. rhode island congressman says we need to restore competition and protect our rights online. the promise of an open internet is fundamentally threatened by the ability of a few powerful gate keepers to bully competitors, crip will innovation and exploit consumers. it must be a top priority going forward. a huge sector of our economy. congress has the responsibility for oversight. >> bill: what are concerns from leading republicans? >> no question about it, house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte saying americans put their trust in big tech companies to champion open dialogue. it is congress's responsibility to the american people to make sure these tech giants are transparent and accountable in their practices and a top house republican says it's about time the google ceo sit down and answer these questions from lawmakers. >> there is no other company that has a greater control over the internet on searches than google. google has not been coming to any of our hearings. twitter, facebook and others. 90% of all internet searches goes through google. >> sandra: that's a monopoly. >> that's an argument. competitiveness, bias. >> republicans would like google to use its vast power impartially. many don't believe that's the case right now. >> bill: mike emanuel on the hill for us. thank you, sir. >> sandra: a big meeting at the white house happening today. democratic leaders chuck schumer, nancy pelosi will be sitting down with president trump in the oval office on the agenda the battle over the funding the border wall. here is kellyanne conway last hour. >> border security is national security. the president's first and primary duty is to keep the american citizens safe and he is trying to do that here. the democrats have a central question in front of them. do they want to keep the government open or the borders open? >> sandra: doug mcelway is live at the white house. what are the prospects for averting the government shutdown? >> the best hope for averting a government shutdown is that neither side wants to take the blame for a government shutdown. this one would hurt really hard coming as it would december 21, four days before christmas. that said there is no indication at this point that come promise is at hand. nancy pelosi was asked on thursday if she would agree to some degree of wall funding. she replied with one word, no. that while the president has been very busy on twitter this morning preparing for no deal. quote, people do not yet realize how much of the wall, including really effective renovation has already been built. if the democrats don't give us the votes to secure our country the military will build the remaining sections of the wall. they know how important it is. the president can't make that decision to have the military fund the wall, it has to be up to congress. we have a lot of pre-posturing who will take the blame. senate minority leader chuck schumer. >> president trump wants to throw a temper tantrum and shut down the government over christmas, over the wall. that's his decision. >> kellyanne conway points to democratic hypocrisy how many democrats voted for the secure fences act in 2006. >> clinton, schumer, biden, obama, when politics were involved and national security and border security were on their minds they did the right thing and hope they'll do the right thing here. >> democrats have made the case that republicans control both houses of congress as well as the white house. if they can't get it done they have nobody to blame but themselves. the democrats face their own internal divisions as steve scalise notes. >> they said they don't want to do anything because the extreme left doesn't want to do anything because they want open borders. that's the dilemma where nancy pelosi is right now. >> today's meeting between the president, schumer and pelosi is today. >> the republicans always seem to take the blame for government shutdowns because of the democrats placing blame in addition to their media allies. there was one previous shutdown during the trump administration that was short lived that occurred early last february. given the fact that the president has been adamant about building the wall. a campaign promise, you have to wonder whether or not he wants to go to the mat on this one. >> sandra: live from the white house for us this morning. thank you, sir. >> bill: america's a-team now, marc lotter, richard fowler, fox news contributor here in new york city, tom bevan co-founder of real clear politics.com. nice to see all three of you. there is a certain drama in the google hearing today. i don't know if we ever know how these are going to go. i think the facebook hearing at mark zuckerberg, a lot of people were taken aback a little bit by what's happening with your data online. take a guess what comes of it? >> it's important for the tech industry to understand that bias won't be tolerated. congress doesn't want to act but they will. right now they're holding their feet to the fire. information is like a utility in this day and age. you can't deny people access to that information because you may disagree with their views. >> sandra: a big question over what are republican lawmakers asking for here? when we were talking to congressman biggs he says bias is okay if you put it out there that you're filtering the information you're giving to the public. here is the ceo entering the room on capitol hill. we're about to hear from him for the first time answering questions before congress. >> the question is what to do about this. we're seeing a total reappraisal, five years ago everyone thought facebook was great, google was great. all these benefits and now we've learned that there are serious privacy issues, serious bias and antitrust issues. democrats are in favor of regulation but republicans are not but opposed to the political bias they see showing up. interesting to see how congress reacts to the ceo and what are the policy solutions. >> he wants the marketplace to work this out. the google ceo, this is what he says about political bias, his written opening statement which you are about to hear. i lead this company without political bias and work to insure our products continue to operate that way. to do otherwise would go against our core principles and business interests. richard, we know in recent leaked emails there is certainly a level of bias that exists inside that company. >> i'm a youtuber. one thing i will say on youtube whether you're conservative or liberal, whether you're conservative or liberal your content survives and thrives. google is an advertising company. people forget that. they're about the bottom line. it's green whether it's conservative dollars or democratic dollars. so the idea -- hate speech is one thing and that's different but saying the whole company is biased and i think it's a bit of a jump and no evidence to prove that. >> when you have the emails come out yesterday saying they used their ad apps to try to effect breitbart and other conservative outlets and their financial well-being because they disagree with their speech. that's something. >> bill: you think about terms and conditions. no one stops to think about them. in fact, i think the senator questions in the zuckerberg hearing were interesting. they were simple, direct and everyday americans think when you approach technology. what do they do with your data and who do they buy it from and sell it to? the facebook share price took a plunge. if you look at the testimony ever since that point. >> the company took a hit. >> there is a difference between what facebook and google. google is a company that has operated with the highest of integrity and beyond that i think it's important to remember that the fact that he is down here on capitol hill and if you read his testimony and listen to an interview he gave yesterday he was clear i'm willing to work with congress. let's work together to make the internet fair and the internet open and more democratic. >> sandra: he didn't show up the first time. he is there today after leaving an empty seat the first time he was invited to answer questions before congress. he said this. i'm taking pride in google being american. we cherish the values and freedoms that allowed to grow and serve. we'll continue to work with the government to keep our country safe and secure. safe to safe based on what we've seen he is about to say so far he is going to stick to the narrative there is no bias within his company. >> right. look, mark zuckerberg came before congress and took the apologetic route. then we saw reporting facebook were in denial, deception. there is an arg gans about big media, big social media and big tech in this country. they need to get ahead of it or a public backlash to the issues i mentioned before about privacy and antitrust violations. these are massive companies controlling a lot of information but percentage of our economy. >> bill: another topic. there was a piece in fox news.com that says google is missing moral compass. they're willing to help china but not our nation's military. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are at the white house today. what comes of this meeting, marc? >> hopefully it keeps the small part of the government funded through the rest of the year. it is important. i'm not sure if either side is willing to give. they're trying to score points. we've seen it in the past. democrats have voted for increased barriers, stronger security, more enforcement and yet they turn around when it's to their political advantage and do the exact opposite with president trump. >> what you hear from republicans that democrats believe in open borders. we don't believe in open borders but in protecting the borders. in 2006 it was passed by speaker nancy pelosi. so the idea -- >> bill: that was the point kellyanne was making last hour. if you voted for it 12 years ago why not support it now? >> there are a lot of other things you can do to secure the border besides building a wall. >> fascinating. the first test for nancy pelosi and chuck schumer and their base. they don't want compromise on this and more dollars going. you have donald trump. this is a core promise of his. he has been very upfront and made it a huge campaign issue. the incentives are not there to compromise. i'll be surprised if we do. both sides don't want to shut the government down four days before christmas. >> bill: kevin mccarthy now addressing the room. >> with a very open mind. i yield back. >> now like to invite mr. pichai to take his seat at the witness table. >> without objection the chair now recognizes the ranking member, mr. nadler, for a point of personal privilege to recognize a member of his staff. very distinguished member of his staff. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to take a moment to recognize danielle brown whose last working day for the committee is tomorrow. danielle has served on the judiciary committee democratic staff for more than a decade in a variety of roles beginning as staff assistant and going to counsel, parliamentarian, chief legislative counsel and deputy chief counsel. she has been essential to the operations of this committee and involved in nearly every important piece of committee business over the last decade. her interests and expertise range from protecting vulnerable immigrants to ensure reproductive freedom and consumer protections. she is leaving us now to become general counsel and parliamentarian of the ways and means committee. our loss is surely their gain. i wish her well, appreciate your wise counsel and i thank her for her years of service to the committee. >> bill: i would like to honor all staff members, okay? i think every day should be staff member day. >> we honor you. >> bill: our staff in "america's newsroom" is the best in the business and we honor them on thursday. we'll pick our point to get in and out. back to the wall. if you look at the president and one of his latest tweets. how much construction has happened at the wall and how much fortification has taken place? see trying to move toward a point where he can make the case i've already done a lot on this? >> you could read his tweets that way. he was suggesting we have a lot built. people would be surprised to see how much is built. using the military to build the rest. he is trying to perhaps seed the ground for some sort of compromise and come out of this with either a face-saving victory or something that he can take and say i was stuck to my promise on the wall and we'll get it done. >> bill: you're referring to the deadline that comes up next friday for funding. do you think which and mitch mcconnell told senators on the floor be prepared to work over the holidays. is this the kind of deadline that we are expecting? >> yeah. and as we all know congress works best when they face a deadline or typically don't work much at all. so the closer we get to the deadline the more you'll see actually moving forward. if there is going to be a compromise. >> sandra: do we want to get to that? we'll keep monitoring the google hearing for the moment. i just want to get this in here. tom, you referenced the president tweeting on this issue meeting with chuck and nancy. i look forward to my meeting with chuck and nancy today. in 2006 democrats voted for a wall and right to do so. today they no longer want border security. they'll fight it at all costs. nancy must get votes for speaker but the wall will get built. that's the politics of today and that's the discussion that will be happening in the white house in a few moments if now. >> bill: we'll tap dance our way back to the hearing. bob goodlatte, the chairman of the committee now speaking. >> the sheer volume of detailed information that is collected. today i hope to get answers on the extent of data collection and use by google. in addition, decades ago congress passed the communications decency act including section 230 that allows service providers to remove lewd, lastive yas, violent or objectionable content from their platforms and remove illegal materials including child pornography and content that's illegal under our intellectual property laws while meant to block harmful materials there is some discretion that service providers by necessity must use to make decisions about what content is harmful or objectionable. given google's ooub you bik tee in the -- it is consumers first and last stop for getting information on the internet and we're interested in what is objectionable content that justifies filtering and who at google makes these decisions. given the revelation that top executives have discussed how the results of the 2016 elections do comply with google's values, these questions have become all the more important. while it is true that google is not a government entity and so it does not have to comply with the first amendment, the american people deserve to know what types of information they are not getting when they perform searches on the internet. the market works best when information about products and services is readily available and so today on behalf of this committee and the american consumer, i hope to get answers from mr. pichai regarding who at google makes the judgment calls on whether to filter or block objectionable content and what metrics google uses to make those decisions. i want to thank google's ceo for his willingness to testify today to answer these and other questions. with respect to search results, algorithmic screening as the primary means that google sorts data and information. google search algorithm calculates what is presented to a user based on the variables the user inputs into the search bar. at its best google's algorithm reaches the best answer in the least amount of time and ranks pages most relevant to the search inquiry. of course, by ranking pages google search always favors one page over another. this kind of bias appears harmless. after all, the point of a search is to discriminate among multiple relevant sources to find the best answer. this process turns much more sinister with allegations that google manipulates its algorithm to favor the political party it likes, the ideas it likes or the products that it likes. there are numerous allegations in the news that google employees have talked about doing this, thought about doing this and have done it. the dangerous implications to a fair democratic process cannot be understated. one study performed by a psychologist has revealed that internet search rankings have a significant impact on consumer choices, namely because users trust and choose higher-ranked results more than lower-ranked results. after performing five double blind randomized controlled experience using a total undecided voters and different characteristics of the voting population of the united states and india. biased search rankings can shift the references of undecided voters by 20% or more. search ranking bias can be masked so people show no awareness of the manipulation. this is clearly problematic and compounded by the fact that google every day collects mountains of information about its users while they are actively engaged with a google product or even when they are not. according to a study conducted by vanderbilt university, adore manhattan, stationary android phone with chrome active in the background communicated location information to google 340 times during a 24-hour period or at an average of 14 data communications per hour. the collection of location data may be obvious to most users but they're often unaware of the many senators that the android platform supports including a barometer and photo meter. these sensors, in addition to the cameras and microphone on a mobile device can collate into an active picture of where a user is, what they are doing and who else is there. the shocking amount of information that google collects via its phones was recently featured on "good morning america" in which a reporter using an android phone with no sim card that wasn't connected to the internet discovered the phone collected the device's movement, even identifying the mode of transportation such as the subway or even a bicycle and at times taking 10 sensor readings per minute. moreover google's practice of reinforcing its dominance in light of allegations of self-serving bias creates little choice for consumers of internet based products or services. given that google's ads show up on non-google website and the search engine is on the default, it is impossible to avoid google all together. google is many things. it is one of the largest data collectors ever seen in human history. it is an advertiser that can get the right product to the right customer at precisely the right time. google is also an internet giant directing over 3.5 billion searches per day. with this massive authority, however, comes the potential for far-reaching abuse. the mere suspicion that google manipulates its products and features for self-serving or political purposes raises serious concerns about its business practices, its impact on free speech and our democratic process and americans trust that the information gathered about them in their day-to-day lives is done with their knowledge and is not being used against them. my hope is that through our inquiries today we'll insure more transparency and accountability going forward. last, despite the nature and scope of today's hearing, google is still the story of the american dream. the company was started by two individuals in a garage and grew to be one of the most successful companies in the world. two decades ago we couldn't fathom instant access to more information than that which is contained in all the encyclopedias in the world. now we take that for granted because of the innovative services google provides. with that i want to again thank our witness for his presence here today. i look forward to your testimony. it's now my pleasure to recognize the ranking member of the committee, mr. nadler, for his opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. our society has become increasingly reliant on social media and other online platforms to obtain, create, share and sort information. this information helps us make decisions ranging in importance from where to make dinner reservations to which candidate to vote for in a presidential election. the public's increasing use of the platforms has many positive benefits for society. but also given rise to some troubling trends. google is among the dominant firms in this field. as such, given the public east widespread use and reliance on its product and services there are legitimate questions regarding the company's policies and practices including with respect to content moderation and the protection of user privacy. before we get into these questions i must dispense with a completely illegitimate issue. the fantasy dreamed up by some conservatives that google and other online platforms have an anti-conservative bias. no credible evidence supports this right wing conspire see theory. i have little doubt my republican colleagues will present a laundry list of out of context statements made by google employees as evidence of anti-conservative bias. none of that will make it true. this fact-free propaganda does help generate the mistrust that the majority leader referred to a few moments ago. even if google were deliberately discriminating against conservative viewpoints and fox news and rush limbaugh discriminate begins liberal points of view that's its right as a private company to do so, not to be questioned by government. during the reagan administration, the 35 years ago, the federal communications commission, appointed by ronald reagan, abolished what we used to have called the fairness document that placed an obligation of broadcasters to be fair to different points of view. this question might be relevant if the republican members wanted to bring back that doctrine and expand its scope to social media companies. i doubt we will see any interest in doing so. but we should not let the delusions of the far right distract us from the real issues that should be the focus of today's hearing. for example, we should examine what google is doing to stop hostile foreign powers to spread false information in order to harm our political discourse. it has been more than two years since the 2016 election. if this committee has not held a single hearing focused on russia's campaign to manipulate online platforms to undermine american democracy despite the fact it is the consensus view of our intelligence agencies that russia engaged in a massive disinformation kam tain for the 2016 election. i hope mr. pichai can tell us what google has taken to -- don't give a guidance to foreign powers. this may help congress determine what more can be done to further insulate our democratic processes from foreign interfere answer and examine how google enforces community standards and inappropriate conduct. while internet platforms have produced societal benefits they provided a new tool for those seeking to stoke racial and ethnic hatred. the presence of hateful content on these platforms has been made more alarming by the rise in hate-motivated violence. statistics reported interest of hate crimes rose by 17% last year compared to 2016. marking the third year that such reports have increased. the horrible massacre at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. recent murder of an african-american couple in a kentucky grocery store. killing of an indian engineer in kansas are not isolated outbursts of violence and other things. how these platforms can play a constructive role in combating its spread. as a dominant player in its field google possesses significant market power and also useful to examine the policies and practices to insure that other companies are able to compete in open and fair marketplace. there are also concerns about the prevalence of pirated material available on google and other internet platforms at the expense of other legitimate content and important to know what google is doing to protect its user's data security and privacy. the "wall street journal" that google discovered a bug in google+ had exposed to data of up to 5,000 users to developers. it didn't announce that to even those affected at the time. yesterday the company announced it discovered another google+ bug that exposed private profile data of millions of users. there is no evidence that developers have abused the bugs or that any use of profile data has been misused in any way incidents like this -- it raises questions about how much control users should have over their own data and how such control should be regulated. i am also disturbed by recent reports that google is developing a search engine for the chinese mainland market. according to these reports the search engine would not only accommodate sensors it might allow the chinese government to track individuals by linking search terms to the user's mobile phone number. unfortunately in this our fourth hearing devoted to entirely fictitious allegations of anti-conservative bias by internet companies, we will waste more time and more taxpayer money in elevating well worn right wing conspiracy theories instead of concentrating on the questions and issues that should be the focus of our hearings. our committee can and must and will do better. i give back the balance of my time. >> thank you, mr. nadler. we welcome our witness. please rise and i'll begin which swearing you in. raise your right hand. [witness sworn in] >> let the record show the witness answered in the affirmative. our only witness today is mr. sundar pichai. he is the chief executive officer of google. your written statement will be entered into the record in its entirety and we ask you summarize your testimony in five minutes to help you stay within the time there is a timing light on your table. when it switches from green to yellow you have one minute to conclude your testimony. when it turns red the time has expired. mr. pichai, you are very welcome and you may begin. >> chairman goodlatte, ranking member nadler and distinguished members of the committee. thank you for opportunity to be here today. i joined google 15 years ago and have been privileged to serve as ceo for the past three years. my love for information and technology began long before that. it's been 25 years since i made the u.s. my home. growing up in india, i have distinct memories of when my family got its first phone and first television. each new technology made a profound difference in our life. getting the phone meant i could call ahead to the hospital to check instead of taking a two-hour trip there. and the television, while it only had one channel i couldn't have been more thrilled by its arrival. those experiences made me a technology optimist and i remain one today. not only because i believe in technology, but because i believe in people and their ability to use technology to improve their life. i'm incredibly proud of what google does to empower people around the world, especially in the u.s. i want to share a bit of background on that. 20 years ago, two students, one from michigan and one from maryland came together at stan ford with a big idea. to provide users with access to the world's information. that mission still drives everything we do. whether it saves you a few minutes on your morning commute or helping doctors develop disease and save lives. we're global company committed to building products for everyone. that means working with many industries from education and healthcare to manufacturing and entertainment. even as we expand into new markets, we never forget our american roots. it is no coincidence that a company dedicated the free flow of information was founded right here in the u.s. as an american company we cherish the values and freedoms that have allowed us to grow and serve so many users. i'm proud to say we do and we will continue to work with the government to keep our country safe and secure. over the years our footprint has expanded far beyond california to states such as texas, virginia, oklahoma, and alabama. today in the u.s. we are growing faster outside of the bay area than within it. i had the great opportunity to travel across the country and see all the places that are powering our digital economy. pittsburgh, san diego where we launched a partnership with the uso to help veterans and military families. along the way many people who depend on google to learn new skills, find jobs or new businesses. over the past year we supported more than 1.5 million american businesses and over the past three years have made data contributions of $150 billion to the u.s. economy. added more than 24,000 employees and paid over $43 billion to our u.s. partners across android. these investments strengthen our communities and support thousands of american jobs. they also allow us to provide great services to our users to help them through the day. it is an honor to play this role in people's lives. it's one we know comes with great responsibility. protecting the privacy and security of our users has long been an essential part of our mission. we have invested an enormous amount of years to bring choice, these values are built into every product we make. we recognize the important role of government, including this committee, in setting rules for the development and use of technology. to that end we support federal privacy legislation and propose a legislative framework for privacy early this year. users look to us to provide accurate, trustworthy information and we work hard to insure that with our products. we've put checks and balances in place to make sure we have standards. i lead this company without political bias and work to insure our products continue to operate that way. to do otherwise would be against our core principles and business interests. we are a company that provides platforms for diverse perspectives and opinions and there is no shortage of them amongst our employees. some googlers have risked much in defense of their country. some are civil libertarians who defend freedom of expression. some are parents who worry about the role technology plays in our households. some, like me, are immigrants who are profoundly grateful to the freedoms and opportunities it offers. and some of us are many of these things. let me close by saying that leading google has been the greatest professional honor of my life. a challenging moment for our industry and i greatly appreciate you letting me share the story of google and our work to build products worthy of the trust users place in us. thank you for the opportunity and i look forward to answering your questions. >> thank you. we'll proceed under the five-minute rules with questions and i'll begin by recognizing myself. is it true that the android operating system sends google information every few minutes detailing the exact location of a smartphone within a few feet, the speed of movement of the phone, the altitude of the phone sufficient to determine what floor of a building the phone is on, the temperature surrounding the phone and other readings? and if so, with americans carrying their phones with them virtually at all times, doesn't the collection of this volume of detailed information really mean that google is compiling information about virtually every movement an individual with a smartphone is making every hour of every day? >> mr. chairman, thank you for the question. today for any service we provide our users, we go to great lengths to protect their privacy and we give them transparency, choice and control. android is a powerful platform and provides smartphones for over two billion people. as part of that, it depends on the applications users choose to use. if you are using a fitness application, which is keeping track of the number of steps you walk you expect it to send that information. it's a choice users make. we make it clear and it depends on the use cases. >> the answer to my first question is yes, is that correct, that the information that i cited is gathered by google? >> if -- for google services you have a choice of what information is collected and we make it transparent. >> i understand there are uses that consumers make use of. i use it to keep track of the number of steps i walk. i understand that service that one of your competitors provides. i understand that purpose. do you think the average consumer understands that google will collect this volume of detailed information when they click through the terms of service agreements in order to use the android operating system? >> it's really important for us that average users are able to understand it. it is why we do something called privacy checkup. >> do average users read the terms of service and updates that are frequently sent to us? >> beyond the terms of service the actually offer -- we remind users to do a privacy checkup and we make it very obvious every month. in the last 28 days 160 million users went to their my account settings where they can clearly see what information we have. we actually show it back to them and we give clear toggles by category. they can decide whether that information is collected, stored or stop using it, we work hard to make it possible for users to take their data with them if they choose to use another service. >> let me switch to the issue of section 230 of the communications decency act. you heard me say in my opening statement this provides broad liability protections for you and other technology companies for good faith restrictions that when google thinks something is obscene, lewd, excessively violent or otherwise objectionable. objectionable material by whatever standard applied likely he list its the most engagement from users on your site and for google increased engagement potentially means increased revenue. however, it is important for google to make very clear where it draws the line and i don't believe google has done its best to make that clear. so what i would ask is the following, would google or youtube be willing to make changes in support of a healthier civic dialogue if doing so meant a drop in user engagement metrics? >> absolutely, mr. chairman. we have always focused on long-term goals to user satisfaction. we focus on their knowledge, happiness, success and that's what we work hard to create. it is important to us that platforms like youtube are viable over the long run. it is a natural incentive to do so. youtube is a place that users, advertisers and content creators who make their livelihood use the platform. we want to make this work in a sustainable way. >> when it comes to political advertising, as you know some of your competitors in other advertising media are required by law to offer the same rate, the lowest rate as a matter of fact, to all political candidates. so, for example, true in television and radio. would google -- should competing political candidates be charged the same effective ad rates to reach perspective voters? >> our advertising products are built without any bias and the rates are set by a live auction process. depending on the key words for which you're bidding for, depending on the demand that's in the auction, the prices are automatically calculated. so the system decides that >> i understand it's automatically -- could two political candidates targeting the same audience see different ad rates and could that disparity be substantial? >> there won't be a difference based on any political reasons unless there are key words which are of particular interest in the market that demands it. it is a supply/demand. it can lead to difference in rates but it will vary from time to time. >> can those rates be substantial in difference? >> there could be occasions, yes, there could be a difference in rates. i haven't looked at the specifics of it. >> the result is different than in other markets like television or radio where every candidate is entitled to the lowest rate that that television station or radio station offers to any political candidate for office. >> we -- there could be variations based on the time of the day, the key words you are choosing to go for, the geographies you are advertising in. but it is decided by the system and a process we've done for over 20 years. let me assure you anything to do with our civic process we make sure we do so in a nonpartisan way and it is really important us to. >> thank you. we recognize mr. nadler for five minutes. >> according to media reports google found evidence that -- well, let me go to the other one first. google found a bug in its google+ social media platform that could have exposed the private data of up to half a million users without the consent of third party developers. google did not disclose the bug until months later after it was revealed by a report in the "wall street journal." yesterday as i mentioned before they found another bug. what legal obligations is the company under that disclose private personal data like users name, age, email address or phone number. >> the bugs you mentioned are bugs, we found them by either doing an audit or using our automated testing systems. whenever we find any bugs we follow -- it gets us cleared to our privacy and data production office and we comply with. >> i'm asking what legal obligation is the company under to disclose such data exposures that don't involve financial information but still involve other personal information? >> it depends on the situation. we follow the requirements and in that case, in the first case typically we look at our legal requirements but we go above and beyond to make sure we do the right thing for our users. in the first case there was no evidence data was misused and we -- >> i understand that. my question is what legal obligations are there? >> today right now if you have found a bug once you have done the investigation and you are certain the users who are eligible for notification my understanding is you have 72 hours. we both notify users as regulators in that time frame. >> thank you. now according to media reports, google found evidence that russian agents spend thousands of dollars to purchase ads on its advertising platforms that span multiple google products as part of the russian agents campaign to interfere in the election two years ago. in addition downs, head of global policy for youtube testified they had shut down multiple khaenls containing thousands of videos associated with the russian misinformation campaign. does google now know the full extent to which its online platforms were exploited by russian actors in the election two years ago? >> we have -- we under stook a very thorough investigation and in 2016 we now know that there were two main ad accounts linked to russia which advertised on google for about 4700 dollars in advertising. we also found other limited. >> a total of 4700 dollars? >> no amount is okay here but we found limited activity, improper activity. we learned a lot from that and we have dramatically increased protections leading up to the current elections. we found limited activity both from the internet research agency in russia as well as accounts linked to iran. >> what specific steps have you taken, including during the recent 2018 elections, to protect against further interferesens by russia or other hostile foreign powers? >> we've undertaken significant review of how ads are bought. we look for the origin of these accounts. we share and collaborate with law enforcement, other technology companies and if essentially investing a lot of effort and oversight in this area. >> looking ahead to the next congress, i assume we can have your assurances that google will work with this committee as we examine how to secure our elections from future foreign interference. >> it's the foundation to our democracy and you have my full commitment we'll do that. >> my last question. what are you doing -- what is google doing to combat the spread of white supremacy and white ring extremism across youtube? >> it is an important platform. we want to allow for diverse perspectives and opinions but we have rules of the road and clear policies and policies against many categories and we are transparent about these policies. when we find violations on our policies we do remove the videos. >> when you find violations you want? >> off our policy. we have policies against hate speech and we clearly define them. if we find any violations there we take down content. >> when you take down the content do you note who put it up so you can flag future content from the same sources? >> we look at it on a video by video basis. to the extent the same offenses by the same account we notify the content creator and follow up accordingly. >> thank you very much. >> chair recognizes the gentleman from texas, mr. smith for five minutes. >> sandra: you've been listening to the testimony on capitol hill of sundar pichai of google answering questions of lawmakers there. we want to bring bring in ken starr and former solicitor general. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> sandra: you've been listening to the testimony on capitol hill and watching the exchange of the head of google with lawmakers. your thoughts as you've been listening on as they are trying to discover whether or not there is a conservative bias being inflicted on the consumer of google products. >> we were just at the start of the hearing. i honestly think this is congress at its best. this is what congress needs to be doing in addition to preparing legislation and the like. when you have these power centers and this hi-technology world we need to hear from these companies. perhaps this is a little overdue but better late than never and very important to hear what steps google and these other kinds of service providers are taking to consistent with the first amendment block the kinds of access that we know these russian operatives have had. i think this is a very serious issue. i'm glad congress and a bipartisan way -- there will be partisan moments -- is trying to illuminate the situation. >> bill: we'll bring our viewers headlines as we get them. the mueller matter. a lot of news happened late on friday and we've been looking forward to the opportunity to get you on our program here. here is richard blumenthal, democratic senator who characterized these charges in a serious and significant way. listen and we'll ask you about it next. >> those offenses are impeachable offenses. that is the kind of allegation made against richard nixon that led to his impeachment. but there may be much more. and i think there has to be full disclosure and we have to wait for that disclosure before there is any conclusion about impeachable offenses. >> that's the allegation against richard nixon that led to his impeachment. where are you? >> that's a bit of overstatement. the allegations against president nixon had to do with obstruction of justice. there was a legal inquiry underway and he sought and entered a conspiracy to obstruct that inquiry. here these whole arenas of campaign finance violations are very difficult. what's the motivation? avoid embarrassment and so forth. in the john edwards case from a couple of decades ago suggest that the prosecutors are likely to be very cautious in drawing too many inferences about wrongdoing -- criminal wrongdoing. i think it is an embarrassment. i think the voices thus far being raised are we're nowhere near an indictable offense from what we know assuming the president could be indicted. and i don't think we're anywhere near an impeachable offense given what we now know. >> sandra: do you think this investigation is anywhere near the end, ken? >> well, we're getting mixed signals. these redactions and the sentencing memoranda suggest there is concern about disclosing information that might interfere with ongoing investigations. what i think we're at the end of as far as we know is the investigation into so-called collusion. thus far and the public domain there has been no indication whatsoever to my knowledge that there has been collusion. so what we're seeing are these various and sundry offshoots. paul manafort investigation here that involved the ukraine and the like. nothing to do as far as we know with the 2016 presidential campaign. now that michael cohen set of difficulties that he has found himself in including lying to congress, so again all these seem to be logical outgrowths of the investigation. those seem to be wrapping up. maybe we are coming toward the conclusion. we just don't know. the redactions may be hiding something that would be very relevant for us to make an intelligent decision how much longer the mueller investigation will go. >> bill: you read the report on cohen on friday, right? >> yes. >> bill: at the bottom of page 18 they list him as no longer a cooperating witness. how is that possible? you have the taxi medallion in new york, on and on it goes. to the lay person that might seem like a lot of cooperation. so why would mueller characterize him that way? >> well, you are exactly right, bill. there were other prosecutors who were involved, not just the mueller investigators. but here is the key. in some prosecutorial houses cooperation means full, complete cooperation, hold nothing back. apparently the prosecutors came to the judgment -- i'm in no place to second guess that judgment -- that he wasn't fully cooperative. he never entered into a formal and full cooperation agreement. now he is suffering some in terms of trying to get the prosecutors to encourage the judge to favor leniency. >> is that the assumption he knows something and not saying it or he possibly just doesn't know. >> the latter is possible, you're absolutely right. but i think the prosecutors may have information -- may -- have information and believe he could be useful in shedding further light on it. many times prosecutors will say the experienced prosecutors will say you hope to get 80% out of a cooperating witness. it is rare to get 100%. what i think we've seen with general flynn and that sentencing memorandum he went that extra mile so to speak and gave everything that he possibly could in those almost 20 interviews that he had. apparently mr. cohen just did not have the same kind of effect on the 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these are some of the big questions. >> bill: many american consumers are getting educated on it. it is moving quickly around us. that's happening on the hill. this is happening in the white house. looking for a new chief of staff. the president disputes reports he is having a hard time finding a replacement for general kelly. mark meadows said he would be interested. doesn't look like meadows has been interviewed or had a phone call just yet. kellyanne conway from earlier today on "america's newsroom." >> i think it will be a very peaceful and pragmatic transition to the next chief of staff. the president has many people who want to serve here. he needs somebody who he trusts and who is loyal to the country. >> bill: that from two hours ago. kevin corke is live from the north lawn. >> as you can well imagine this idea, bill, that the white house is having trouble finding a chief of staff is somewhat comical when you consider this is a town that feeds on power. this is a highly powerful position and there are a lot of people who would do a lot -- an awful lot to have a job with that kind of power. the president took note of it on twitter making it pretty plain that he has been somewhat bemuseed by the coverage about his search for a chief of staff. let me share a bit of what he had to say earlier today talking about this. he said fake news has it purposely wrong. many, over 10, are vying for and wanting the white house chief of staff position. why wouldn't someone want one of the truly great and meaningful jobs in washington please report news correctly, thank you. now, this is clearly one of the most powerful jobs in the country. so yes, there is a fairly sizable queue of interest. to be fair. many people have seen the job general kelly did and thought maybe not for me at this time. still, there are those like congressman mark meadows who you mentioned acting ag matt whitaker, david bossie who are those rumored to be under consideration for the job as is a familiar face seen earlier today on fox news. >> i think the next chief of staff will be somebody who focuses on the chief part and staff part as general kelly has and somebody who has the trust and confidence of the president and understands the principle. also can interface with the cabinet and who can manage a very large and ever-changing staff here. it's a personal decision for the president. >> listen carefully to the words there. have the trust and confidence of the president. understands the principle. can interface with the cabinet. you see what i'm putting down right here. earlier today a white house staffer told me the president, as you know, is his own man and make the decision at a time and place of his choosing. the back and forth has somebody thinking about the process when then governor george h.w. bush was using dick cheney, and found the right person for the job was right in front of him all along. certainly a distinct possibility that someone on the inside on an interim basis could take on the position. we'll keep you posted as we learn more. >> bill: kevin corke, thank you. >> sandra: for more on this let's bring in guy benson political editor at town hall.com and fox news contributor. here is mark meadows responding to word that he is being considered. >> i'm honored to be considered. i've got one job right now. that's representing the people of western north carolina. that's what i'm focused on and what i'll continue to focus on. and yet at the same time, any time that your name is floated to help the president of the united states accomplish things for the american people, it's flattering. i'm not out campaigning for the job. >> sandra: is he the right guy for the job? >> it's not a denial there. he said it is nice, we're flattering. i don't think he wants to look like he is pressing too hard for something that might hurt his chances. if you're congressional republicans you are a little concerned about any more special elections. plucking people out of congress and forcing a special on the democrats did relatively well in terms of improving their percentage of the vote in some of those special elections earlier prior to the mid-term elections. so i just think it's a fascinating dynamic right now over this whole situation because i think it's true, the president is totally right and kevin made mention of this a moment ago. there are plenty of people in this town who would love that job. it is full of prestige and truly powerful. so whenever that type of vacancy arises you'll have a line of people out the door who have interest in that. but given this president's style, where he sort of thrives on chaos to some extent, i think by design, if you are someone who is typically cut from the mold for a chief of staff where you prize order and that sort of thing, that type of person, that type of person in washington, d.c. may be less inclined to join the line out the door for this particular president. >> sandra: interesting. senator john kennedy from louisiana talking about the president's need for change here. >> i think you need the president's confidence. you need the president's respect. you need some political experience. you need to understand congress and how congress works. i thank general kelly for doing it. he is probably looking forward to a rest. i think mr. ayers would have been great. he wants to make a change. >> sandra: reports the president is having a hard time finding a new chief of staff and at the same time it's a huge decision and a lot goes into making that. >> things move very quickly often in the news cycles recently. i was sitting here on sunday on "fox news sunday" and chatting on and off the air about the very settled conventional wisdom in washington that nick ayers would get the job. what are the pros and cons, a few hours later he said no, i am not throwing my hat in the ring and leaving my present position. one of the things we heard that is crucial to this whole process is whoever this person is going to be needs to have the trust and respect of president trump. that is particularly true with president trump because if this is someone who gets this gig who is sort of on the outs with the president or the president doesn't really care for all that much or doesn't have respect in his gut that person won't have the power that he or she thinks they might. that's a really important piece of this puzzle. >> sandra: i want to transition now back to capitol hill where this hearing is ongoing with the head of google in that room being questioned by lawmakers. >> he showed up. >> sandra: he said he leads that company without political bias and insures their products continue to operate in that way. there is the ceo now. what do you make of what you've heard so far? >> well, i think there are three big issues. on the right of center there are millions and millions of americans who simply don't believe that silicon valley is free from political bias. it's a very left wing part of the country. plenty of bread crumbs that indicate perhaps some of these companies have a significant leftward drift and important for them to restore faith among people who are on the center right. then there is the privacy questions which has nothing to do with where you are on the ideological spectrum. is it true that when you turn off markers saying don't track me, does that actually happen or is it still going on despite what you've supposedly done? i think that's a piece of a distrust that exists among a lot of americans. and then those people who are internationally minded, you hear a lot of things from google saying we're about openness and transparency. getting information, it's so important. okay, how does that align with a decision, it looks like, to agree and participate in censorship in partnership with the communist government in china? lots of really interesting fertile ground here. i'm glad he showed up. if they want to avoid large scale regulation they need to be a lot more accommodating and transparent for the representatives of the american people. there is a deep well of distrust even though we're all sort of addicted to their products. >> sandra: that hearing is ongoing and a lot more to come from that. we're monitoring it for everybody. >> bill: james comey not shying away from politics. do his comments harm the bureau and the f.b.i. former assistant f.b.i. director chris swecker is coming up. >> sandra: europe in crisis. three major american allies face turmoil and uncertain futures. steve hilton will be here to give us his take next. >> what people are saying these leaders like macron do not understand their lives. they're working, paying their taxes, obeying the law and they're a lot harder up than they were 20 years ago. jimmy's gotten used to his whole room smelling like sweaty odors. yup, he's gone noseblind. he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this... luckily for all your hard-to-wash fabrics... ...there's febreze fabric refresher. febreze doesn't just mask, it eliminates odors you've... ...gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric. with up to twice the fresh scent power, you'll want to try it... ...again and again and maybe just one more time. indulge in irresistible freshness. febreze unstopables. breathe happy. >> sandra: fox news alert a europe in turmoil. voters revolt against leaders of germany, england and france. riots in france. germany's party system imploding. big changes coming for three big u.s. allies. russell mead writes the past week has seen the leaders of the three most important european states fighting for their political lives. steve hilton on fox news joins us with his take this morning. steve, i know you have strong thoughts on what we're seeing playing out in europe. what are they? >> well, let's start with the thing that connects all of these crises facing the european leaders. this rise of populism. the idea that people for many years, even decades, have suffered the consequences of a policy agenda that's been great for the people at the top but not so good for working people who have seen jobs go away and incomes go down. the policies, uncontrolled immigration, in particular, globalization and automation people have had enough of it and voted for brexit. it is not being delivered. the establishment is fighting back. in germany merkel is in trouble because of her decision to open her doors to a million plus immigrants that has had a terrible impact on their society. france was the one place that was supposed to be the hold out populism. he was elected as the globalist, the great hope for the forces against populism. he has had to cave in, too. the anger of the people was too great. what you really need is not just a change of leader in these countries but a change of policy to put working people's interests first. >> sandra: it's a big statement. in that column in the "wall street journal" the professor goes on to say between trade friction, stock market volatility and flattening yield curb there are signs the current expansion isn't immortal. we must hope when the good economic times yield to another recession the west's political leadership will have the imagination and fortitude to weather the storm. if you could sort of read into that for us because that also is a very big statement. >> yeah. and it's an important warning because as we know, you know, the economic times are not that bad now. of course, some people are losing out but generally speaking there is still growth. if that time comes and you've still got this globalist, elitist policy in place, that will be a real problem. but the opportunity is actually to turn things around. we've seen here in america how quickly you can turn things around with the right policies, with the tax reform, with especially getting rid of regulations the free up business, to do its job and create jobs and wealth. that happened really quickly here. europe could do the same. there is no leadership, it seems, that wants to do it. >> sandra: it sint interesting to watch. the see-saw whip lish has been a warning to many folks. here is nigel farage on the situation. >> we're stalemated here. i do wonder, i know it's been a bit of a joke the attempt to get 48 letters. i do wonder with the government in total paralysis like this, i wouldn't have thought the tory back benchers will wait much long every. >> sandra: he is talking about the mechanism to get rid of theresa may as prime minister. he is right. the ridiculous thing is you've had a prime minister leading the brexit process who doesn't believe it and argued an voted against it and thinks it's a mistake and trying to deliver brexit and why the deal she has come up with isn't a deal at all and not brexit and why you have the mess. they would be better to put in place a leader who believes in the opportunity of brexit to have a great economy independent of the bureaucrat i can control of the e. you have. >> sandra: we're seeing the head of google answering the questions of lawmakers. it is something you've continued to watch very closely and know a lot about. what are your concerns as you listen on to the questioning from lawmakers in that room? what would you like to hear sundar pichai respond to most? >> there is one specific thing i would love to hear him say. to completely rule out any further commercial engagement with china. china is our number one global enemy and trying to steal the technology to help it dominate this century. above all of that there is a broader question, which my big concern is the lawmakers might give him a grilling and have some uncomfortable moments as we've seen on certain issues. i don't think anything fundamentally will change. the real problem is a lack of competition. you have basically this monopoly. you see it also with facebook in social media and the way these companies dominate so much. they squeeze out competitors. that's not good for the economy or for society. i think that what you really want to see from lawmakers is a tougher attitude, including breaking up these companies. not regulating them and micromanaging what they do but structural change to bring more competition. i don't see any sign of that coming out of washington >> sandra: he has no plans to launch a search engine in china. you can expect a lot more questions in that room. we'll be all over this. thank you for joining us this morning. nice to see you. >> bill: paul manafort back in court today claims that he lied to investigators. an update on that. what we could learn from that hearing in a moment next. and if i'd been caring for tom's dad, i would have noticed some dizziness that could lead to balance issues. that's because i'm trained to report any changes in behavior, no matter how small, so tom could have peace of mind. we'll be right there. we have to go. hey, tom. you should try right at home. they're great for us. the right care. right at home. it's proven quality sleep. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999... intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. and the best gift of all? 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>> it's been five years since russia sent nuclear capable bombers to venezuela. before that they did so in 2008 when tensions were particularly high with the u.s. the russian bomber crews arrived outside there monday after flying more than 6,000 miles. u.s. intelligence officials monitored the flight of the two supersonic black jack bombers as they took off from an air base in russia and flew over the north pole and across the atlantic to venezuela. these are the same type of bombers which have launched cruise missiles into syria. secretary of state mike pompeo responded the russian and venezuelan people should see this for what it is two corrupt governments squandering public funds and squelching liberty and freedom while their people suffer. the kremlin rejected secretary pompeo's criticism calling it undiplomatic adding a swipe at the pentagon saying such criticism of russian military movements coming from a country half of whose military budget would be enough to feed the whole of africa. >> bill: the president took some by surprise calling for billions more in defense spending. how much more, jennifer? >> the president met defense secretary mattis and armed services chairmen for lunch last week and reports leaked out the white house was seeking $750 billion for the 2020 pentagon budget. a shocking figure when just last week the president said $700 billion was his top line. weeks before the president demanded a 5% cut from all government agencies. it's been to rebuild the military after years of budget cuts and caps. this year's defense budget is $716 billion. the pentagon was hoping for $733 billion for the 2020 budget. some political insiders have argued the president's choice of $750 billion is a negotiating tactic to get to that number of $703 billion and we've just heard the president tweet that if congress does not build the wall, the pentagon will do it. so it is clear that he is putting that number of $750 out there in case the pentagon has to build the wall and it would be slipped into the pentagon budget. >> bill: something to watch. jennifer, thank you very much from the pentagon today. jennifer griffin. thanks. >> sandra: president trump is about to meet with top democrats to find common ground on border wall funding and spending bill. >> bill: james comey taking a more partisan role after the meeting on friday. what message does this send? >> by accident of history i have a role that i can play to speak about the rule of law and the truth, and i think that's useful. i'm not a democrat, i'm not a republican, but so what? libert. they customized my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. and as a man... uh... or a woman... with very specific needs that i can't tell you about- say cheese. mr. landry? oh no. hi mr. landry! liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> sandra: former trump campaign chair paul manafort due in federal court this afternoon just days after prosecutors said he broke a plea deal by lying to the special counsel's investigators. catherine herridge has the latest from our d.c. bureau this morning. good morning. >> good morning. we have a status hearing a short time from now with both legal teams in a d.c. federal court arguing whether the former campaign chairman violated his plea agreement with the special counsel. in the filing late friday part of which wasn't public or under seal the special counsel alleged paul manafort had improper contacts with the white house. it read after signing the plea agreement manafort stated he had no direct or indirect communications with anyone in the administration. it demonstrates that manafort lied about his contacts and had contact with administration officials. >> lawyers do talk all the time. once you enter cooperation proceedings with a prosecutor it is generally understood you aren't going to share any information you get out of those interactions with someone else who might be involved in the investigation. that's why they're upset. >> manafort's legal team has argued consistently i told the truth. the special counsel prosecutors didn't like his answers seeking information to implicate the administration and contacts say the special counsel pressed manafort on the president's son-in-law jared kushner and we expect lawyers for the president's national security advisor mike flynn to file their sentencing memo. mueller's team said flynn had provided assistance over 19 interviews and no jail time. the manafort records are heavily redacted and not sure how it will sit with the federal judge in the case. >> sandra: thank you. >> all of us should use every breath we have to make sure that the lying stops on january 20th, 2021. i understand the democrats have important debates to have about who their candidate should be. they have to win. they have to win. >> bill: former f.b.i. director james comey taking a political stand urging democrats to nominate the candidate who can unseat president trump in 2020. chris swecker former assistant director of the f.b.i. good morning to you. what do you think about this interview from the other night in new york city? >> it infuriates former agents, current agents. i've heard from over 100 of them that he wraps himself in the cloak of the f.b.i., fidelity, bravery, integrity that those 35,000 men and women follow every day but yet he is spewing this partisan vitriol. he wants to be associated with the f.b.i., synonymous with the f.b.i. you criticize me you criticize the f.b.i. but at the same time he is demonstrating why he is on the outs and destroyed his own reputation because he is a partisan. he obviously practiced that during his short tenure as f.b.i. director. >> bill: here is a quote national review. is the federal bureau of investigation a partisan institution? no doubt there is a wide range of opinions throughout the rank and file of the agents. the more comey sounds like a dnc chairman the more he chips away at public faith in the institution. why is this emerging now? >> he is trying very hard to rehabilitate his reputation, which is destroyed. in the beginning when he first was named f.b.i. director i think a lot of people were excited. i was. he had a great reputation, very personable. but his actions were inexplicable. he violated every rule. made up his own rules. had leaks. was running the f.b.i. during investigations because he can't remember a thing about it. he is not the f.b.i. and the one message i want the public to get. >> bill: he is not the f.b.i. is what you just said. >> that's right. >> bill: speaking out against president trump. this is what he said also in that interview. >> it's not a republican thing or democratic thing. it's an american thing. this is unacceptable behavior for the leader of our country. >> another sound bite. >> i don't love my current life as a semi employed celebrity, but by accident of history i have a role that i can play to speak about the rule of law and the truth and i think that's useful. so that's the role i'm trying to play. >> bill: and what do you say to that role? >> he certainly doesn't lack any humility. that's probably the problem to begin with. i think he wanted to seize that moment in history and be the person that would make the decision he had no right to make. i go back to this notion. i don't care what you think about the president whether you despise him or what, it cannot bleed over into your work in the f.b.i. that's the very essence. f.b.i.'s effectiveness. they don't work that way. he is confirming in the minds of the american public yeah, they really were partisan. >> bill: democrats have a problem with him also. reopening the hillary clinton investigation days before the election was the wrong call. what did you make of that in hindsight? >> i think he was forced into that because the new york office a month earlier had discovered a bleedover of emails from the clinton server into anthony wiener's laptop. headquarters sat on it for a month. the new york office was almost in the status of mutiny. he knew that was going to get out so he had to do something. and in that case he reopened the investigation. he didn't want to do it. >> bill: come back to what you're hearing from your colleagues and f.b.i. agents. what do they say about this again? >> as i said in the beginning of his tenure a lot of people were excited and even when he was fired i think some people articulated to me they thought he got a bad rap. that changed since the i.g. report came out. since his behavior since he was fired, which i think rightfully so. i think he has very little support left anywhere in the ranks of the current or former f.b.i. agents. i hear from dozens every time i appear on fox and lay this out. look, we're not -- it's not in our culture to criticize f.b.i. leadership current or past. this is not in us. he is wrapping himself in the f.b.i. and basically confirming in the minds of many americans that there was bias in the f.b.i. and he was right there at the top. >> bill: that could be injurious to the institution as you point out, right sir? >> very much so. >> bill: chris swecker, thank you for your time today and we'll see you the next time james comey talks. i imagine he will. >> i think we can bet on it. >> sandra: police are now expanding the search for this missing mom in colorado kelsey berreth. she was last seen thanksgiving day. what her family is now saying about her disappearance. plus a key meeting happening right now at the white house. can the president and top democrats hammer out a deal on funding the border wall and avert a government shutdown before end of year? 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>> well, let's get down to what we really need to do. obviously we need to fund the government and we do need border security. but we need to spend the money wisely. we're running somewhere near a $900 billion annual deficit right now. so every dollar we spend has to be spent very wisely. there is no indication, no facts, no information that would say $5 billion is going to secure the border. we do know that we can wisely spend a billion or a little more than that on repairing fences, providing additional sensing devices, dealing with the various ports of en -- entry. those things need to be done. we must spend the taxpayer dollar wisely not just to fulfill a campaign promise. that was supposed to be paid for by mexico. now we're asking the american taxpayers to spend it. show us how the money would be spent wisely for real security along the border and we'll do it. >> sandra: here is the president's latest words sending out the tweet. people don't realize how much of the wall, including really effective renovation has already been built. if the democrats don't give us the votes to secure our country, the military will build the remaining sections of the wall. they know how important it is. it sounds like you want to react specifically to that before i move on. >> it is a nice tweet but not based upon any real law or appropriation. the military can only spend money that is appropriated by congress for specific purposes. we call it the military construction program. there is no money in the current appropriation which actually has been signed by the president that has any money for the military to build a wall. it is simply not there. the president doesn't have the authority to do that. now we do need border security and what i'm saying is spend the taxpayer money wisely. >> sandra: the american people hear you saying that and wonder -- nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are at the white house meeting with the president. so where are democrats willing to work with the president on this issue? >> well, earlier today the two leaders put forward a billion 200 million proposal for border security to improve the fences that need to be improved to provide the various sensing devices, observation device and additional personnel as well as the entry ports along the border so they can be better secured. that was in the proposal that those leaders took to the white house now as you and i are speaking here. what will come of a discussions or negotiations going forward. whatever the number is we are obligated to spend the taxpayer money wisely on things that are really necessary to secure the border. not just to fulfill a campaign promise. >> sandra: taxpayer money-wise. referencing back to what schumer and pelosi wrote this in a statement. republicans still control the house, senate, white house and have the power to keep government open. our country cannot afford a trump shutdown at this time of economic uncertainty. this holiday season the president news full well his wall proposal does not have the votes to pass the house and senate and shouldn't be an obstacle to a bipartisan. i want to get to this sound bite from kellyanne conway. >> this president is willing to work across the aisle with leader schumer and we guess speaker pelosi. she has a critical decision to make. she does not have the votes necessarily for speaker. it has been tough for her to get them. what has she promised some of these socialist leaning democrats in her caucus to become good speaker? walls work, walls plus and it is also border security is national security. central question. the president wants to close the borders and keep the government open. >> sandra: and we heard from mitch mcconnell earlier they are willing to work over the holidays if that's what it takes to get this done. final thoughts. >> you opened with the fact that the republicans have sufficient votes in the house of representatives and in the senate to pass an appropriation bill. all on their own. they really don't need in the house of representatives any democrat to pass an appropriation bill. they have more than enough votes if they were able to get their own act together. the senate is different but nonetheless they've been able to secure the necessary votes for supreme court nomination and other things. so really, what we're talking about here is apparently the president and the republican leadership needs democratic votes because they cannot marshall their own members to vote for an appropriation bill. we want to do that. we want to keep the government open. we're talking about the homeland security, coast guard, national parks, transportation, agriculture, health and human services. all of those things are potentially shut down if we can't come to an agreement. >> sandra: final thought. will we avert a shutdown or will it happen? >> i don't believe there will be a shutdown. we're really talking about a very small but very significant difference in the negotiations. i think it will come together and the american people demand that we get our job done. that's where i am. >> sandra: thank you for coming on "america's newsroom." >> bill: a quick preview of what's on tap today coming up. >> the president meeting right now with democratic leaders nancy pelosi and chuck schumer with the president's border wall and a partial government shutdown on the line. which side will blink? the latest on the high-stakes showdown and google's ceo on capitol hill facing tough questions on claims the search giant is biased against conservatives. are lawmakers getting the answers they need and #oneluckyguy at the top of the hour. >> bill: we'll see you 10 minutes away. the search intensifying for a missing mother since thanksgiving. her mother pleading with the public for help saying her daughter would never run aware >> this is completely out of character. she loves god, family and friends and loves her job. she is reliable, considerate and honest. whoooo. planning a vacation... shouldn't be hard work! tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites to find the lowest price on the hotel you want! we make it easy... for you to take it easy! tripadvisor. - (phone ringing)a phones offers - big button,ecialized phones... and volume-enhanced phones., get details on this state program. call or visit i've done all sorts of research, read earnings reports, looked at chart patterns. i've even built my own historic trading model. and you're still not sure if you want to make the trade? 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