>> bill: straight to the white house lawn. kevin does not sleep. >> reporter: i'm await and here just four. first, lets me tell you about ronny jackson taking over. he's been reduced to that press conference he had in talking about the president's health but the truth is if you look at his record even with a cursory glance you can see why the president may have a great deal of confidence he'll be able to get the job done. he'll be replacing outgoing v.a. secretary dr. david shulkin. a widely respected physician. dr. shulkin has been kind to us in explaining the thought process in what is happening at the v.a. but now it will be in the hand of dr. ronny jackson. by the way, dr. shulkin was a hair obama holdover. and dr. jackson served. a navy admiral and served in the iraq war and notably served presidents george w. bush and president obama and now president trump. now he takes over for dr. shulkin whose depar tur was expected for -- departure for some time but dr. shulkin isn't leaving quietly. a blistering op-ed in the new york times why reads in part, i have fought to stand up for this great department and all that it embodies. in recent months though, the environment in washington has turned so toxic, so chaotic and subversive and became impossible for me to accomplish the work our veterans need and deserve. white house officials tell us this, sometimes on the record or sometimes on background, the president respects dr. shulkin but he was frustrated over the pace of privatization at the v.a. and something shulkin thought led to his undoing in the staff. the president son his way to ohio today. he'll be talking about his new infrastructure plan and what he wants congress to do. we suspect he may stop to talk to reporters. if that happens i'll bring it to you. >> bill: an hour ago the president is taking aim at a familiar target and that's amazon. a big high flyer. what's the foundation for the criticism, now? >> reporter: okay. um, i'm going to lay it out this way for you. there'll be people out there, bill, that will say it's personal, it's two billionaires going at each other. jeff bezos is the ceo of amazon. they own the washington post. that paper has been fiercely critical of the president and consistently so. white house officials say it's not just about that. they point out amazon is a massive player on the business stage. and this isn't about that. this is about fairness. and fairness and tax policy and levelling the playing field for american business. the president tweeted i stated my concerns with amazon. they pay little or no taxes to state and local government, use the postal system as our delivery boy causing tremendous loss to the u.s. and putting thousands of retailers out of business. the here's the principal white house secretary. >> people made it about the personalities at amazon and we're talking about jeff bezos here. this is about policy. you have a huge company that's done amazing things in amazon springing up in a short amount of time and really tax policy has to catch up to that. >> raj shah the company took a tumble and we'll see what happens as he continues to take aim at them. >> bill: kevin corke. amazon reported $5.6 billion in profits in the u.s. and didn't pay money in federal taxes. everybody probably owns a slice of amazon through their 401(k) or uses it. you've seen the destruction at the retail level. >> sandra: it's very convenient for many families in america but the president made it clear it's not something new. he talked about this prior to being president. >> bill: we shall follow it. >> sandra: meanwhile, an historic meeting in the making as the leaders of north and south korea agree to a summit for the first time in more than a decade. it's scheduled for the southern side of the demilitarized zone. what more do we know about the meeting? >> reporter: another historic meeting in the works trying to bring the korean peninsula closer to a peaceful situation. today's officials involves officials from north and south korea and they decided south korean president would hold a summit with kim jong-un friday april 27. it's only the third time since the korean war leaders of the two countries have met and the first time since the war a north korean leader will venture south of the dmv. this is part of hefty diplomacy on the behalf of president moon including inviting them to the winter olympics and some diplomacy by kim jong-un in the interesting trip to beijing and this leading up to the big enchilada with the meet with president trump. >> sandra: what's the mean to the trump summit? >> reporter: that's what the focus is on in the read-out president xi sent to president trump regarding his meeting with kim jong-un he said kim commit to denuclearizition and worryingly, sandra, kim, reportedly in the session in beijing called for a quote, phas phased move for them to give up nuke and missiles and according to some people i spoke to it sounds like preconditions that have derailed these efforts in the past. in the words of my source close to the south korean president, he said that's a north korean position that needs to be quote, unquote, compromised. let the dealing begin. >> sandra: greg palkot reporting. thank you. >> bill: mike huckabee. good day, good morning, happy early easter to you. you're not holding your breath on north korea now are you? >> reporter: not really, but i think the movement is a little encouraging. the hermit kingdom, its leader, the hermit himself has come out and met with china and may meet with the president in may. i think it's significant but i don't think anyone's holding their breath that it's going to be a wonderful time where everybody will toast marshmallows and sing kumbaya but maybe there's a hope forward where there's a denuclearization. >> bill: the next meeting comes in april. back stateside, secretary shulkin, now outgoing, he said as i prepare to leave i'm struck by a thought, it should not be that hard to serve your country. what do you think of the changes? the conventional wisdom is the president is getting up to speed and getting people more like-mind and is that too simple of an analysis? >> reporter: it's really not. the fact is this say president who did not come into office with a lot of people with government experience nor did he come into office with people loyal to him and understood him and wanted to work for him. many people wanted jobs, positions, stature but didn't want to serve this president with that kind of fervor. it's like a coach. if the coach can't get the right kind of play as a player, he puts them on the bench. the cabinet people serve at the pleasure of the president. it's not their job. they didn't get elect to anything, the president did and has a right to bring people in. shulkin is right. it's a toxic environment in washington and the travel and the wimbledon and the stuff that's chump change in the big scheme but the wolf pack of washington makes it such a distraction that a person who engages in it is no longer valuable to the team. >> bill: i like shulkin, he's been on the show and i thought his heart was in the right place. we me of on to the next and hope -- we hope on to the next and hope in the challenging job we can get something done. 30 seconds left, do you believe the inspector general within the department of justice will get answers on this dodgy dossier? 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>> he talked about jobs, jackie. he said he'd shake things up. >> have you looked at the news because now things are worse. >> not on the real news. >> bill: 18 million americans saw it in the roseanne reboot. president trump personally calling the tv star to congratulate her and it takes on the politics and we have jessica tarlov for buffalo.com and steve hilton from the next revolution. this was said about the phone call. >> he's just happy for me. i've known him for many years and he's done a lot of nice things for me over the years and it was just a friendly conversation about working and television and ratings. >> bill: working. i like it. steve, what's it say about hollywood? what's it say about us? what's it say about ignoring 50% of the country? what do you think on this? >> i think this is just a massive f.u. from working americans to the cultural elite. they're so sick and tired of being patronized nfor the crime of putting their economic security and their family's economic security when they go and vote and instead of being disagreed with they've been branded as fascist and nazis and xenophobes and deplorable and tired of it and finally they see their argument represented fairly on the screen which is all we were doing when we voted for trump was trying to get finally some change that would make our lives better. what's wrong with that? finally they saw it on screen in a reasonable, fair and sympathetic. >> bill: f.u. means forget you, by the way. >> thank you for the translate. >> bill: highest markets, kansas city, missouri, council, ohio. >> i think it's fantastic. i think chicago was the only mass market that ranked in the top 20 in terms of the success. >> bill: interesting. >> the show is based near there so it also makes sense. i think it's important. i think it's great. having a hilary supporter and jill stein supporter is an interesting twist and this is what modern politics looks like families are split and fight with each other and advocate for their side and still love each other and have dinner together. i would add there's something interesting ben shapiro pointed out and may have written an article about it the thought roseanne is representing conservative, she's pro-choice and pro-gay marriage and i'm sure there'll be an episode on more background checks on guns and i'm not sure how mike pence would feel for people who back donald trump because they were going to get neil gorsuch or another conservative job or want planned parenthood defunded. roseanne may even be a supporter. >> bill: you're taking it deeper than i thought. >> why not. >> bill: it's almost a conversation we've been avoiding. >> that's what i'm here for, bill. >> bill: got it. donald trump jr. said congrats to roseanne. if you're not too busy maybe work a late-night show. seems like there's demand for the alternative view point. she writes i'd like to thank my liberals. to draft off jessica's point. how many people watched the oscars, 24 million? and that was promoted endlessly for months at a time. >> it's such a wake-up call to the cultural elite and what is great about america is we can live together and have different views and be together in our communities. that seems to have been lost in the last year or so where everything has got so toxic and people just feel they can't just disagree. they have to hate them and despise them. jessica's point and ben shapiro's point, the whole point of donald trump and the reason he did well was he was not a conservative. he beat the traditional republican in the primary and appealed to people who hadn't supported republicans before because he was a populist. what is interesting is how that message can go beyond the base of the republican party. that's what he did well. and so i don't think it's fair to just describe him as not being a conservative because that's the reason he won. >> bill: you think about all the media and the choices you have today, people are still looking for quality. we'll see how the next show does. thank you, jessica and steve hilton. >> you bet. >> sandra: a family of eight feared dead after an suv plunges off a cliff. >> we have every indication to believe all six children were in there. i was at the scene two days ago. i can tell you it was a confusing scene because there were no skid marks. >> sandra: the cause of the crash is not the only mystery they're trying to solve. details on that straight ahead. when i received the diagnosis, i knew at that exact moment, whatever it takes, wherever i have to go...i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors that work together. when a patient comes to ctca, they're meeting a team of physicians that specialize in the management of cancer. breast cancer treatment is continuing to evolve. and i would say that ctca is definitely on the cusp of those changes. patients can be overwhelmed ... we really focus on taking the time with each individual patient so they can choose the treatment appropriate for them. the care that ctca brings is the kind of care i've wanted for my patients. being able to spend time with them, have a whole team to look after them is fantastic. i empower women with choices. it's not just picking a surgeon. it's picking the care team, and feeling secure where you are. surround yourself with the team of breast cancer experts at cancer treatment centers of america. visit cancercenter.com/breast appointments available now. swho live within five miles of custyour business?-54, like these two... and that guy. or maybe you want to reach women, ages 18 to 34, who are interested in fitness... namaste. whichever audience you're looking for, we'll find them we're the finders. we work here at comcast spotlight, and we have the best tools for getting your advertising message out there. anywhere, any way your audience watches. consider them found. you know what's not awesome? 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warrants. there's not a court in the country with a number that high. >> sandra: bob goodlatte had the same concerns on the limb takes and concerns on -- limitations and concerns and here he is sharing that with everyone. . >> the inspector general can't look at it from the same perspective as congress can or from the perspective that an independent special counsel can. >> sandra: sounds like you're saying the concerns are warrant. >> but if the inspector general uncovers what he believes is criminal activity, he passes that on to main justice attorney general sessions or deputy attorney general rosenstein. for all of congressman goodlatte's good intentions he too is hamstrung because he can't quin -- indict and prosecute. the most efficient investigators are people like bob mueller they have agent to interrogate you and indict you that usually instills cooperation. >> sandra: so there's a question whether there's enough. >> i agree with congressman nunes and i encourage to investigate all the abuses of fisa by the intelligence community and fbi, particularly by fbi agent who were going around the constitution and going to this court that has become a pushover for search warrants. >> sandra: what are they going to find? >> i think they're going to find a culture corruption. not in the sense of people being paid off but people not following the proper procedure. it was said the history of human freedom is paying attention to procedure. when you shortcut constitutional protection even if you catch a guilty person, you damage the protections the constitution is supposed to guarantee. >> sandra: you mentioned robert mueller. he's found rick gates knew he was speaking to this russian intel agent. what do we know about this? >> this is the biggest hint that bob mueller has shown us of the existence of what the non-lawyers are calling collusion. the legal term is conspiracy to receive something of value from a foreign person entity or government when you're running a federal campaign. that very agreement is criminal. so bob gates has apparently told -- excuse me, rick gates has apparently told bob mueller, when i was in the campaign i was speaking to a russian intelligence agent. wow, what were you speaking about or getting anything of value. gates is manafort's partner, before and after the campaign. gates has pled guilty to a small fraction of what he was charged with and it's a treasure trove for bob mueller. >> sandra: what else are we going to learn on the front? where will mueller go with that new information. as you called it he's only given a hint. >> the interesting question is why is he hinting at this? i think he's hinting at it because he wants to say to the no-collusion crowd, where's the collusion? i'm not going to show all of it to you until i develop it more. he's obviously going to develop it more. a person a, whose name we don't know a russian official won't come to the u.s. because the minute he does they'll arrest him. >> sandra: new -- thank you for covering that. >> bill: almost 2018 and no resolution. a verdict can come in the pulse nightclub shooter's widow. closing arguments, prosecutors saying omar mateen initially planned to attack disney world. noor salman claims she had nothing to do with the plot but a jury will decide. we have more in the final hours of this trial. the prosecution revealed what it considers a major piece of evidence. what was that? >> reporter: prosecutors say the shooter and his wife were going to try to attack disney world and try to hide the weapon in a stroll perp there was -- stroller there was a picture of a stroller abandoned near the pulse nightclub and it's like trip likely the stroller he was going abandon and it shows the shooter and the widow planning the attack but they argue they were together as a family and she was unaware of his plans. prosecutors say the shooter wound up not carrying the attack at disney world because he noticed orange county sheriffs as he was casing the property. the defense said she was not a partner to her husband in the relationship or in the planning. >> [indiscernible] >> reporter: the shooter's widow is accused of providing support to a terrorist organization and faces life in prison. she confessed to know what the shooter was planning and now there's something else. >> reporter: they're now contending she was coerced during interrogation. one of the final witnesses for the defense testified the shooter's wife not mentally capable of understanding her confession. before the trial the shooter's wife did confess to watching her husband purchase the gun and watching terrorist videos and preparing for jihad and making statements like how bad it would be if a club got attacked and wondered where the next attack would make a splash. the final witness was a psychologist that said the wife is vulnerable and coerced to the confession and doesn't understand. interesting to note as we've been reporting, an fbi agent testified the shooter's father was an fbi informant for 10 years and the attorney general's office is investigating him for allegedly sending money overseas. >> bill: a strange twist when the news broke. we're on jury watch now, thank you, sir. >> sandra: a big critic of president trump's national policy now on the netflix board of directors, susan rice. barack obama's former security director and the company saying they'll benefit from her wisdom. rice faced criticism when she appeared on talk shows suggesting benghazi was over spontaneous protests over a hateful internet video. >> bill: a good gig, don't you think? $250 a share. would i take that? the answer is yes. >> sandra: lots of people have strong feelings on this move by netflix. we'll see if it has impact on the company. >> bill: stand by on that. a violent immigrant who escaped from u.s. custody from an airport and the latest we're learning about the manhunt two days old. >> sandra: and california defies state policies. who will win this argument? here you go little guy. a cockroach can survive submerged underwater for 30 minutes. wow. yeah. not getting in today. terminix. defenders of home. california battle over illegals. president trump offering his support to orange county said my administration stands with you. the sanctuary laws release known dangerous criminals across the state. all citizens have the right to be protected by federal law. geraldo rivera, host of the g geraldo show. the state reissued guidelines to instruct everybody what to do. i don't know if the feds can trump the law in california. my bet is some judges will rule washington can. but the state is saying follow our laws, these are our guidelines. we're not telling you to avoid the feds but you can't ask if someone's a citizen. >> i think what the main point is, this is one of the emotionally divisive issues and there's several sides. some people believe firmly the federal government is being draconian in terms of scooping up people that have been here for decades and the law-abiding among others and deporting them. others believe they're here illegally and unproperly and unlawfully and have no priority to be here. the battle between the state of california and similar states and the trump administration will be resolved by the supreme court of the united states. arizona went one way. they had a similar situation but on the other side of it. arizona had tough laws, tougher than the federal government. the supreme court ruled the federal government was the preeminent power and now in california, that has to be resolved. where will the supreme court go? they'll lay down guidelines on what is permissible and what the federal government can order states and municipal jurisdictions to do but this is fraught with passion and emotion. >> bill: the officials have come out saying if i release a dangerous person in the community and they commit a crime it's on me. >> i like the compromised solution it sounded great to me in orange county where they list everyone being released from prison, documents, undocumented. the federal government can check the list and say here's pablo escobar, we want him on drug charges. let's get a warrants for him and you can i think this is resolved with reason, with technology, with good sensible middle of the road approach rather than california wanting to secede from the union. >> bill: my sense is the leaders in that state want it stick it -- >> california's demographic has changed a lot. first of all, california used to be part of mexico. now there's many many more hispanic latino people who feel more sensitive to the undocumented than people who vo voted for the president do but we're in this together. we don't want to release dangerous criminals and not inform cops they're getting out in the community if they're dangerous criminals. on the other hand you want compassion for those who have behaved in an exemplary fashion. that's what i urge. >> bill: i heard you make the arguments. we'll see where it goes and ultimately the supreme court, i think you're right about. the book, lots of stories in here. i remember a year before the election you said hemmer, trump's going to win and he's going to win because i spent countless hours with him on the set of the present tis and got to know -- apprentice and got to know the man and how he interfaces with the people and employees. what were you aware with before others were? >> there's a charisma about donald trump undeniable. i've known him 40 years but i was fortunate to be on the cast of the celebrity apprentice and be with him every day and often multiple times during the day and to see him produce that on his feet and stand up and make a monologue in a poignant way seemingly effortlessly and to come up with the ideas -- >> bill: you saw talent. >> and when she -- the show began airing how the people respond. he's a movie star. when you saw him on the stage with 16 other republican candidates. can only keep you're eyes to donald trump. he's so charismatic, so accomplished, to flamboyant, no tempestuous and hilary seemed low in comparison and low-energy to use the disparaging remarks he sent to jeb bush. it was so me an almost inevitability. his election like roseanne's success was no mistake. >> sandra: go to see you, geraldo. it could be a big breakthrough in the fight in cancer why there's now a chemo free vaccine. our doctor is here. >> sandra: researchers at stanford university are producing a test. dr. devi is here. stanford is heading up the human trials. >> they're about to start the human trials. it's exciting. it's a small human trial looking at lymphoma so it's not all types of cancer but the idea is you're using something than the traditional methods of treating cancers. we're not talking about chemotherapy where the philosophy is to kill as many cells as possible instead we're having one's immune cells to attack the cancer. >> sandra: this is the new way of using the immune system to fight off and get rid of the tumors. >> we saw another type of immunotherapy coming out. so with car t people would take out the immune cells and modify them and put them back to fight the cancer. in this case, you're taking different agent that cause the immune system to attack and injecting it in one location and by doing that maybe those cells will start to recognize the cancer. that's why it's being called a vaccine. >> sandra: what type of cancer are you optimistic this could treat? >> the study in humans is on lymphoma and on mice it was other cancers and it doesn't apply to all cancers at this time but think about colon cancer. you go for testing and there's cancer in a polyp and you're trying to get pat the invisibility factor. >> sandra: is the medical world optimistic based on what you've discovered so far? >> people are optimistic because it's a completely different way of trying to fight cancer. but at the same time i don't want to be overly optimistic. >> sandra: dr. devi, it's great to see you. i know you just had a baby. congratulations. >> thank you. >> bill: you look great, too. >> thank you. a major manhunt underway after an legal immigrant escapes during deportation and the former v.a. secretary takes a shot at the swamp on the way out the door on the way in a new hour of "america's newsroom." >> sandra: fox news alert one of the most secretive court coming under more scrutiny as the nation's watchdog launches an investigation. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. good morning, bill. >> bill: good morning on this holy thursday. towards the end of the season. i'm bill hemmer. good morning. the i.g.'s mandate gaining momentum after the requests from congress and jeff sessions to examine possible wrongdoing leading up to the election. the house intel committee chair is devin nunes and said this will put the russia investigation into a whole new light. >> the left has continued to say this is watergate and trump's going to be impeached and as they boomeranged on them and the democrats appear like they weaponized to some degree the intelligence services by using the surveillance apparatus in this country to go and target the opposition campaign is unacceptable that's what happened here and people are learning the truth. >> bill: we have or fox news contributor here. >> the oig had information known at the time the applications were filed from or about an alleged confidential source. that's a reference to christopher steele who dug up salacious dirt on donald trump and by fusion gps and paid for by the hillary clinton campaign. horowitz said he'll review the doj and communications with the alleged source as they relate it to the surveillance court applications. he was an informant when he leaked to several news organizations that against standard fbi protocol which caused the fbi to receiver -- sever the relationship with steele. there and was research on the trump campaign. two documents obtained we also learned christopher steele was desperate donald trump not get elect and passionate about him not being president. all this compromising information was not included in the fisa applications for surveillance of trump support, carter page. that's where we are. >> if they find wrongdoing, what's the punishment, doug? >> reporter: in terms of the i.g., he can recommend demotions and reassignments, things of that sort but importantly the i.g. does not have the power to indict or convene a grand jury or interview former doj employees but the information he compiles can be used in an indictmentme indictmentment indictment if a prosecutor is named. >> sandra: more on this with fox news contributor charlie hurt. good morning to you. >> good morning, sandra. >> sandra: nunes said it will put the russia investigation into a whole new light. do you believe it will? >> i think there's a real good chance of that. when you step back and think about the accusations like collusion, we don't even know what that means, actually, but the russia election meddling and we should all be horrified by that and shut fight to prevent and do something about that but this is a new accation. -- accusation. a credible accusation that people in the doj abused the former intelligence surveillance court system in order to spy on, in order to collect information on and punish political opponents in the middle of the election is far and away the most serious accusation in this russia business. i think it's significant and when you look at the text and the evidence that we have so far obviously we don't know. the investigation hasn't been conducted yet, but it's hard to see how it doesn't line up to make the case that in fact the fisa court system was abused. >> sandra: what did you think about what we just heard from judge napolitano and while devin nunes is in good step but there's a question whether tell be enough and the limb takes -- limitations on the special counsel. >> that's why many republicans are calling for a second special counsel. they would have all those powers. i would actually argue that while this the oig is absolutely limited he can work to set no motion far more fulsome effort to get to the bottom of this. >> sandra: more shake-up inside the white house, david shulkin is out and ronny jackson is in. on the way out the door shulkin penned this blistering op-ed in the new york times saying the environment in washington has turned so toxic it became impossible for me to accomplish the important work our veterans need and deserve. as i prepare to leave government i'm struck by a recurring thought, it should not be this hard to serve your country. really shedding light on the swamp that is washington, d.c. >> but, the other way of looking at all this is talking about how hard it is to serve your country. think about the veterans who have been promised good care by a department and federal government and that's not what they get. it's a disaster at the v.a. i can't think of anything more toxic and disrespectful than promising veterans good care when you come home and then not get the good care. shulkin i'm sure tried his best to fix the problems at vme.a. b he likes others failed. probably a good idea to give somebody else a shot at fixing it because that's the most disrespectful chaotic thing that goes on. >> sandra: charlie, what are people saying overall in washington, d.c. about the continued shake-up that we are seeing inside the west wing? >> reporter: around here they don't like it. it's very disturbing to people around here. they like things to not be chaotic but i have to say, the way the president does this, he's always willing to change the way we do things in order to get a better result and questye that's probably chaotic but i think a smart way of approaching something this broken as washington. >> sandra: approaching 2018 things have changed and we'll be watching them. >> reporter: it's exciting. >> bill: it's a swamp, charlie. >> reporter: you know it. >> bill: breaking news. the manhunt intensifying for a quote, violent illegal immigrant who he is escaped from ice agent in the middle of deportation and went through security at j.f.k.'s airport. laura ingle has been watching. >> reporter: it's been 36 hours he slipped away while being transferred from a flight and made his move when his handcuffs were unlocked through security. here's his photo, mbake scaped from inside terminal 4 for a good 30 minutes until he made it outside and hopped into a cab. he was spotted on video surveillance getting in the taxi. we've been in touch with ice and the new york city taxi commission to see if they've been able to identify the license plate number. neither have commented. and the port authority were not notified for nearly an hour after mbake got away from ice agents and that's bringing up questions why other law enforcement agents were informed as he made his way through the terminal. ice officials have not commented. >> bill: he's described as violent. what do we know? >> reporter: he lived in the bronx and wanted on marijuana possession and in 2012 and 2013 and was arrested for carrying a weapon and served in jail before ice began deportation. he's black about 6'3" and 190 pounds. he as a scar on his upper left neck and was last seen wearing a purple or black shirt, jeans and sneakers. if you have information you are urged to call police. >> bill: laura ingle live in new york. >> sandra: california ramping up the immigration feud with the trump administration. how the state is reacting to one county siding with the white house on sanctuary cities and what the president is now saying this morning. >> bill: have you heard this, the head of apple calling out facebook as the trouble continues for the social media giant. is your privacy for sale online? >> sandra: and the trump administration taking its message directly to the american people ahead of the midterms. we'll tell you where the president is heading today to make his case. >> you might have heard the person who wants to be the speaker of the house again, nancy pelosi, when she heard about families getting $1,000 at the end of last year after the president signed the tax cuts, she actually said $1,000 bonus for working families was nothing more than crumbs. >> bill: breaking news. two arrested overseas in the french alps as a car tried to run over two people. france has been on edge since a terrorist took hostages in a super market. four people killed before police shot and killed the suspect. 15 minutes past the hour. >> the truth is these bonuses and the pay raises already happening across minnesota are making a real difference in the lives of family. in the twin cities and across the state and a want to say seriously, any leader who says $1,000 in the pockets of working families is crumbs is out of touch with the american people. >> sandra: vice president mike pence speaking in minnesota as the wohite house touted its economic record and president trump is heading to ohio where he's expect to talk about infrastructure and jobs. for more let's bring in kayleigh mcenany. this is interesting. you had pence slamming pelosi and the crumbs comments yesterday speaking in minnesota. the president now today will take his message to ohio. really laying the groundwork for the midterm elections and they're talking jobs and infrastructure. you go back to the roseanne show the other night, she said, i support him because he talked about jobs and they're out there with that message now. >> absolutely. it's a winning message. you look at tax cuts. we've taken that message to the american people and we're winning on that message. rnc internal polling shows every one of our target states, there's a positive view of the trump tax cuts. overall, it's plus 12% in our battleground states. this say win -- is a winning combination and they care the administration is winning for them and their families. >> sandra: he's going to the state of ohio and bill and i were just chatting, he's from the state. i said what's the unemployment rate in ohio and sure enough it's at a 17-year low like the rest of the country but at 4.5% which is a considerable amount above the national average. there's still a lot of work to do in that state. the president saying it's important to me. i wonder, we were also talking about if he's going to bring up amazon and tweeting about it. sthas -- this is a president that has shown he's interested in levelling the playing field. >> future american consumer and amazon is on his radar as we've seen with his tweets. you mentioned ohio. president trump won the state by 8%. the democrat there is vulnerable approaching the elections and president trump is our secret weapon. he's someone in the pennsylvania special election rick saccone was trailing by double digits and he lost by less and he is our secret weapon. >> sandra: even he has questioned whether his popularity will transfer into the mid terms. there's still quite a bit of time to go and a lot of it is going to hinge on what the economy looks like come the fall. here's the tweet you're talking about. he tweeted i have stated my concerns with amazon long before the election. unlike others they pay little or no tax to state and local systems and use our u.s. postal system as their delivery boy and putting thousands of retailers out of business. he's looking out for small business. that wasn't happening in the years leading up to him entering office. >> absolutely. small businesses are empowered. amazon doesn't have that sales tax. mom-and-pop businesses closing across the nation and president trump looking out for them and looking out for them on the world stage with steel and aluminum tariffs and the china tariffs. he is fighting for the forgotten men and women. that was his message in 2016 and winning message and still fighting for them and hasn't forgotten them. >> >> sandra: the fox news polling and how you feel about the economy. fewer people are nervous. nervous 47%. that's a huge drop from 61% of americans responding that felt nervous back in 2016, kayleigh. 40% of respondents feel confident. when you look forward to the midterms there's quite a bit of time left. the president still has work to do. >> no doubt about it. the number is so significant because when the pundits were touting the election numbers and president trump doesn't have a shop and a narrative of negativity, there was one number so many of us looked at and the president did too ands with the country heading in the right direction and there's enthusiasm in the country because we have a pro-job, pro-business president in the white house looking out for the people. it's an exciting time to be a republican. and to be an american. >> sandra: kayleigh, good to see you. >> bill: it's been one week since the massive cyber attack crippled the city of atlanta. 8,000 government employees hearing they had been 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>> bill: the atlanta mayor reacting to a massive cyber attack breaching the city's government and bringing it to its knees as the hijackers demanded ransom in bitcoin. we have john iannarelli. how did atlanta respond? >> so far the response has been a bit slow. it's gone on for a week business has not been normal in atlanta. they haven't seen these kinds of problems since sherman. you have to be prepared for ransom wear ransomware. >> bill: is it that come? >> last year the fbi reported $1 billion was paid in ransomware so systems can get back online. >> bill: a billion? >> a billion with a "b." >> bill: did atlanta pay money? >> we don't flow if atlanta paid and honestly, $51,000 in short dol dollars in getting back to get the city back to operating. think of the losses every minute while they're out of business. >> bill: i was reading about this. they were encouraging employees to log on while this is happening to your banking records to make sure you weren't hacked i thought, you don't want to log on because if it's underway, you could open yourself up to being hacked. is that the right advice? is that what others are being warned to do? >> if i was an employee with atlanta or did business online with atlanta i'd check my records but not online from the city until they give the all-clear. anybody paying taxes online, you need to make sure your personal information hasn't been compromised. >> bill: are we getting better? >> the criminals are always one step ahead. we can't develop a solution until we see the latest problem. you have to stay vigilant and have to train your employees to be aware, not click on links so you're not downloading anything like ransom weware. >> bill: who are the parties in this? >> a lot of state governments out there and national countries are trying to hack into our infrastructure to upset our economy and it's also the guy in the cyber cafe across the world looking to make quick dollars which is a common event in the united states. >> bill: we'll see what comes of atlanta and how others learn along the way. >> sandra: the showdown over sanctuary cities coming to a head in california as the state steps up the feud with the feds. we'll have reaction from law enforcement in orange county. one of the biggest areas standing in defiance of sanctuary cities. >> bill: also out of california, tensions boiling over in sacramento after the death of an unarmed black man at the hand of police. we'll see where the story is today on the west coast. >> we understand this is not just about the death of stephon clark. we recognize there have been other lives lost who also drive your grief and passion for change. you will be heard. been >> bill: california setting rules in how to deal with federal immigration officials. the undersheriff from orange county is don barnes. you captured a lot of attention because you're helping lead the fight against the state, sacramento. the new guidelines pretty much state what happened -- stated the old guidelines. if you make a traffic stop you cannot ask if they're a citizen. >> that's accurate but we dont do that before. in fact, if that was the limitation on the bill and law being presented we could have said we don't do local immigration enforcement at the street level. that's never happened before. >> bill: but sacramento felt compel to issue new guidelines, why? >> the guidelines are just reiterated what the law says. my hope is the attorney general reads the guidelines because that actually summarizes what the law is and what we did with releasing information on release dates is perfectly within the law and legislation, we're just following it. >> bill: simple question here, what do you think the laws are doing to public safety in your town or your county? >> well, in the state it's eroding public safety. when you legislatively prohibit law enforcement from holding criminals accountable and when have you alternatives to release them back in the custody and the law requires you to release them back into the community doesn't make the community safe. it makes it less safe. these individual not just low level offenders, they're drug traffickers and assailants and commit burglaries and thefts. >> bill: leaders don't want to let violent people walk the streets. what's at the heart of the laws do you think? >> well, there's been a decriminalization efforts. several bad policy decisions out of sacramento. for example, drug possession is now a misdemeanor. most theft misdemeanors and it's hard to hold them accountable when you can't put them in jail and hold them accountable for prosecution so there's a de-criminalization effort making california as a whole less safe. >> bill: we're not going to let the trump administration do our job we're in the job of public safety not deportation. we're giving law enforcement of what the values act which works in convert not conflicts with federal law what that entails. public safety not deportation. clearly you disagree. the president responded on twitter. we are stand in solidarity with those in orange county. california sanctuary laws release known dangerous criminals into the state. all citizens have the right to be committed by federal law and strong borders. i imagine you think it will be settled in the supreme court. do you think that? >> our hope is this will happen. when it was first presented sheriffs up and down the state railed against the legislation. we got bad language but it still prevents us from keeping the community safe. we welcome the lawsuit brought on by jeff sessions and think it will go to the supreme court and put us in a position to hold criminals accountable for their crimes. this is not community-based. we're not performing ice functions. we never have. we have to protect all residents regardless of immigration status. >> bill: why do you think you win in the supreme court? can you frame it? >> i don't know if it will be overturned at the appellate court at the local level. i think it will end up at the supreme court based on history of the courts of california. >> bill: thank you, the under sheriff don barnes. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> sandra: stephon clark will be laid to rest today. he was unarmed when he was shot and kill sparking protests with the community demanding answers. william la jeunesse is live in washington. unrest is expect to continue today. >> reporter: yeah, funeral services for 23-year-old stephon clark begin today at 11:00 a.m. al sharpton will deliver the eulogy. the protests migrated downtown where marchers blocked traffic shouting "shut it down." cars had their cars surrounded leading to tense confrontation following a tuesday night protest that shut down a city hall meeting as clark's brother refufd to stand down. the -- refused. the city has taken a hands down approach. >> we cannot only get through this. we can be the better for it. >> if we don't get better as a community and police department as a result of this all it does is state a tragedy. >> reporter: in the shooting ten days ago police responded to a 9-1-1 call of a robbery in progress. officers thought clark had a gun and it was a cell phone. >> sandra: what's the status of the investigation? >> reporter: well, the protesters are sending a message and putting pressure on the multiple investigations underway. one, is by the police department to determine if the officers violated their use of force policy. another by the davment d.a. will look at the criminal act. have you a police oversight board. they're doing their own investigation and then of course you have the coroner, they have a toxicology report coming up and the family has hired their own medical examiner for an independent autopsy. for black lives matter the body cam alone is enough to convict. >> we want them to file charges. we cannot get justice if there's officers still working and if he's not charged or convicted. >> bill: now, clark has a criminal record but the family's attorney said it shouldn't matter because the cops didn't know who they were pursue at the time. as you said in the beginning, protests are expected today and potentially over the weekend. back to you. >> sandra: william la jeunesse, thank you. >> bill: the ceo panel will tap a topic coming up. >> sandra: and carnival cruise line offering this teenager the trip of a life time in exchange for something rather unusual. we will explain that one. 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>> bill: he won. >> sandra: he had a strategy. why else did he take on that handle. >> bill: you win $10,000 or can take your family to spain. >> sandra: pack your bag. the data mining scandal could end up costing the company hundreds of millions in fines according to officials with the trade commission who said the site may have violated an agreement. we have adrienne el rod and chris wilson. we're trying to see what the fallout is of this more than 50 million user profiles being compromised. hundreds of millions of dollars in fines potentially. >> it looks like there were already laws on the books and now congress is talking about trying to pass new laws. i'm concerned every time there's a violation and whenever something happens there's a rush to pass new laws. in this case, facebook is like a library being blamed for someone coming in and stealing books. they stole data available through facebook the same it was to the obama campaign and exists on data mining or sets being used by other campaigns. there's a rush to blame facebook. when it comes to it there's other bad actors that should receive the blame. tim cooke weighed in. >> we've elected not to make a ton of money. we're not going to traffic in your personal lives. i think it's an invasion of privacy. privacy to us is a human right. it's a civil liberty. >> sandra: a slam on zuckerberg there. >> it's interesting because i don't see a lot of back and forth arguing like that between two major ceos of silicon valley companies. i think facebook needs to have more regulation. i think all of these content-creating silicon valley companies need more regulation. facebook don't curate content but they move content to a lot of their users and they are responsible for not only deciding what content moves across their platform but responsible for deciding how to protect users' data. they have over a billion users worldwide. people need to understand how their data's being used. >> sandra: the type of money we're talking about -- we're not just throwing hundreds of millions. the agency, the ftc could fine facebook up to $40,000 per violation, per day which is 50 million users involved could add up to millions. they're ruling out the "b" word, billions, but it's no wonder the stock has taken such a drastic hit. it's up 3%. i guess it had to move. >> tim cook had a convenient memory. it wasn't long ago where they were accused of tracking people's geoinformation. and facebook's business model is different. it's free for us to use. unless they're going to charge us they have to monetize somehow and they monetize us looking at advertisement and data is used to drive those advertisements. i think to mack the charges is disingenuous. >> sandra: he did conveniently put a halo over his own head. facebook is announcing it will no longer allow third-party data and it allowed prominent aggregators like experian to track for purchasing activity for ad targeting. something you see every day if you hop on a facebook platform. >> this say step in the right direction. when we sign up for social media sites whether it's facebook, snapchat, twitter, in sta gram. we should assume our data is being harvested and advertisers are using that to target to their demographic. but there's got to be more transparency and facebook and many social media sites have gotten away with a lot for a long time. there needs to be more regulation. >> sandra: it sounds like regulation and that's a slippery slope. >> when we go on netflix we like they recommend something to watch and when we go to amazon we like the fact they know we're about to run out of toothpaste. and you can talk to a voter about what they care about is important and takes politics to the individual and find out what's important to them. the overreaction to this and taking away our ability is a disservice to the users. it makes political campaigns or even the ability to receive advertising more personal to who you are and i hate to see an overreaction to something that, again, this wasn't facebook's fault. this is someone who stole their data and this is a difference in understanding the problem. >> sandra: we'll see whose fault it is as we see this play out. when i mention the stock it's lost almost 1$100 billion in market value before the cambridge analytica stuff it was one of the top five most valuable countries -- companies in the world and is no longer. >> bill: you can argue whoever bought the information if they signed the agreement they were going delete it it would be their responsibility to delete it. however if, you're the party who sells the information isn't your job to make sure the information is fulfilled. >> sandra: the ftc has work to do. >> bill: rare video of isis fighters on the battlefield. inside the fight as u.s. forces team up with others. guess who that is, next. have the same number of bladder leak pads, i bet you think the bigger one is better, right? actually, it's bulkier. always discreet doesnneed all that bulk to protect. because it's made differently . the super absorbent core quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection that's a lot less bulky than poise. looks like good things really do come in small packages. always discreet. for bladder leaks. >> will more cuts mean more seats for the gop and help the part cree hold -- party hold the house and the manhunt for an illegal immigrant who escaped and ice agents spent more than an hour to report it and the widow of the pulse nightclub shooter on trial for aiding her husband's crime. a verdict can come at any time and why the jury just asked the judge and what it could mean. top of the hour. >> bill: thank you. video showing a raid targeting isis affiliated fighters in afghanistan. you can see it here execute american and afghan special op forces. the meant gone saying this pentagon saying it killed an isis commander and we set the story. what are the isis fighters in afghanistan today. lucas. >> the top u.s. general in afghanistan said the isis affiliated fighters are mostly talabani claiming allegiance to ice pips you're right, isis, you're right, this is rare video showing the raid in northwestern afghanistan. it took place earlier this week killing an isis-affiliated commander. despite hundreds of airstrikes the reach has expanded from eastern afghanistan to the north where officials said they brought in more foreign fighters. isis and afghanistan claimed responsibility for recent suicide attacks in kabul killing hundreds of civilians. more than 16 years after the war began, top u.s. officials still have to sneak into afghanistan's capital to visit. the president showed nancy pelosi meeting and must still travel between the airport and the u.s. military headquarters because it's too dangerous to drive. reporters travelling with secretary mattis had to shelter in place due to an incoming rocket attack now a daily occurrence i'm told but the dropped a laser-guided missile and u.s. forces have killed 140 isis fighters. but general nicholson said it won't be ending anytime soon. >> we expect the enemy to continue with these horrendous attacks and we will work hard with our afghan security counterparts and teammates to help protect the civilians of afghanistan as much as possible. >> reporter: defense secretary mattis will be meeting the incoming security adviser, john bolton at the pentagon at 1:30 and right now he's meeting with lindsay graham and mike pompeo and jeff sessions. >> bill: thank you, lucas at the pentagon. >> sandra: north and south korea set the date for a historic summit at their border. how the white house is reacting to the meeting that's been years in the making. that's coming up. . >> sandra: a knock at the door and it was not a friendly neighbor. take a look at this. the doorbell camera capturing a snake slithering on the front door of a home in texas. the homeowner says she was inside when she got an alert about someone at the front door. she checked the camera, using her phone, and captured images of a large snake hanging on the door. a local animal expert says it appears to be a rat snake which is common in texas and not ventricle no ventricle veno. i don't do snakes. >> bill: you and me both. we will stay inside on this day. >> sandra: happy thursday, everyone. "happening now" starts right now. >> jon: and we begin with this fox news alert. we are on verdict watch in the trial of the terrorist widow in florida. as jurors deliberate the fate of noor salman for a second day. she is charged with providing material support to a terror group. prosecutors say she helped her husband plan the attack at the pulse nightclub that left 49 people dead. they say salman's statement to the fbi in the hours after the deadly shooting is her confession. salman also lied to authorities about the number of guns her husband owned and his internet use, which included watching beheading videos on islamic state web sites. her attorneys say the statement was coerced

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