Russian investigation and now mike pompeo will be elevated to a different job within the cabinet. What was interesting was from Rex Tillerson was he came from private sector and Condoleezza Rice were behind him and at the 11th hour is Rex Tillersons name and position that came before the president and eventually given the job. Sandra and mike pompeo finished first in his class at west point. Hes earned praise from republicans and democrats alike. And the president taking the opportunity in his statement to say i believe this is and got to know him. Rex tillerson was on his trip to africa. A first trip since the inauguration 13, 14 months ago and tillerson had an event in kenya saturday that was canceled. It was reported he wasnt feeling well and reports came out and stories being written but nothing to verify it. He shortened the trip and came home early from a meeting and the meeting has taken place and the president saying i want a new team in there to get ready for the trade talks and the ongoing matter with north korea. Sandra that was coming in from our reporting at the white house this morning. The timing of this announcement before the 9 00 a. M. Hour on a Tuesday Morning. Remember, it was just thursday night, south korea stepped outside the lawn of the white house to announce that north Koreas Kim Jongun invited the president for talks and he wanted his team in place in advance of the talks. Bill a name gina haspel will be the first female to head the cia. Our National Reporter for axios. Good morning to you. I was watching you last friday and there is a lot of speculation who would be the next treasury secretary, economic adviser and Larry Kudlows name was out there and you said his name had been reported often in the media but not within the small conversations youre having. It seems that has changed as well. Before we go to all that, what can you report from inside the west wing on the Tillerson Pompeo move . My colleague reported that pompeo was in consideration and that was in october last year. The president has been fed up with Rex Tillerson for some time but we were in a strange period of nobody really knowing what was going on. You would talk to people in the white house and they would say Rex Tillerson is basically an irrelevant figure. President trump often doesnt loop him into what hes thinking. The rest of the world, when you talk to foreign diplomats when they hear Rex Tillerson they dont believe hes talking on behalf of the president of the United States bill can i stop you there . What was it about the relationship that caused this level of strain . Why were they not close . It started off on a bad foot with Rex Tillerson wanting to put people not supportive of the president into senior roles and other cabinet secretaries had tried the same thing but took the message from the white house personnel and getting in people more protrump. Tillerson just dug his heels in and put in the same people and it caused huge strains with the white house and fell out with trump by being outside of trump on just about every policy issue you can think of. He was against trump on the iran deal and trying to force him to stay in the iran deal on the issue of qatar they fell out on that issue and north korea, the president said dont waste save your energy, rex, with your negotiation. If you do a tour around the world, by the way, jerusalem rex and mattis argued. Bill the ones who agree stick around. I cant speak for the president s views but certainly senior staff believes Rex Tillerson treated the president with contempt. That he came in and thought hed be the sole chief executive in charge of American Foreign policy. Remember, he ran exxon one of the Biggest Companies in the world and the view is he never expected to be answering to the president and that he could almost dictate Foreign Policy on his own. I dont know whether thats a fair characterization of how Rex Tillerson felt but that was the perception inside the west wing. Bill mike pompeo is held in high regard. Did you see this coming this move with him . We reported he was in consideration back in october. Mike allen was the first to report that, my colleague. Look, secretary of state as one senator pointed out to me is theres probably a couple other roles, but probably above all others where there cannot be distance between the president and the secretary of state. Theyre the voice around the world. You can have the situation where you have the attorney general, jeff sessions, who clearly doesnt have the confidence of the president but who stays in the job, who knows how much longer, because its helpful to have separation but secretary of state, you are the president s voice around the world and it was an untellable situation where the president had no confidence in a person representing the United States around the world. Bill Jonathan Swan report from axios. Sandra lets bring in john roberts live at the white house for us. Mike pompeo in, Rex Tillerson out. What else are we learning . Its been in the works a long time as Jonathan Swan mentioned. Fr fox news reported last fall Rex Tillerson would probably leave in the new year. We thought it might have been shortly after the anniversary of the inauguration but we always knew the president didnt have full confidence in Rex Tillerson and the relationship was one of freeflowing communication. The relationship between the president and mike pompeo are much closer. These are people who see each other every day if not every other day depending on where theyre travelling, but this went down on friday when Rex Tillerson came back from his trip. The president saying id like you to step aside. The reason for that is the cat last for all this happening right now is the announcement made by the south Korean National security adviser when he said kim jongun asked for a meeting with the president and we heard from the white house the president said yes. That was the tripwire for this happening because the president wants to head a new team in place for the north korean meetings and negotiations. He didnt think tillerson was the person to do that. You remember the president slapped tillerson back in a tweet last year when tillerson suggested the United States was talking to the North Koreans and the president said theres no reason to talk to them. The president wasnt on the same page but more on the same page with mike pompeo and wanted him in place with the potential talks with north korea and infrastructure was supposed to be the big agenda item for the white house in 2018. It looks like thats not going to happen. The president s main focus now is going to be on renegotiating trade deals and the president is having negotiations with countries on how to rewrite existing trade deals, maybe cancelling some of them. He wants to have a secretary of state who he knows and trusts will faithfully represent his position to these nations. And the secretary of state plays a huge role with the state department. With pompeo in there now, the president has a strong ally in doing all of this, north korea and whatever else comes down the pipe. It takes a while for an administration to settle in and get the team it really wants. When you come in this when a lot of people in your campaign didnt expect you were going win, sometimes it takes a while to get the pieces of the puzzle in place to move forward. The president believes by replacing Rex Tillerson with mike pompeo he has a significant part of the puzzle in place. Dont forget, when youre secretary of state youre one of the three most important people in the administration. Sandra and huge decisions coming up which is why the timing is crucial with the north korean talks coming up. When you spoke to mike pompeo recently he referenced this is not theatre. Hes there to solve the problem when it comes to north korea and went on to say well determine the timing and location of those talks. Did you get the sense from mike pompeo when you spoke to him, that is already in place . I dont think the locations been nailed down yet but i think theyve probably narrowed it down to a short list of places where you can do Something Like this. And im not sure where theyre going to do it. Maybe some neural third country and we saw talks between reagan in a neutral location and we were told its probably not north korea or the United States and other places may not be high on the list but mike pompeo said less important is where and more important is where the substance of the conversations will be and pompeo was very direct on sunday saying the United States is not going to give up anything in these talks to north korea. And that any kind of u. S. Cooperation would only come when kim jongun comes through in a concrete way of denuclearization. Sandra you pointed out the policy differences that start to emerge between Rex Tillerson and the president. There was also a moment last year where Rex Tillerson reportedly called the president a choice word and Rex Tillerson doesnt exactly deny that. That was certainly a moment where everyone started to question the relationship of the secretary of state and this president. Dont forget thats about the same time too the stories were coming out and the stories were float floated by folks in the white house and he was long for the job and we were told hed make a statement about nothing in particular. Then asked if he called the president that and there was no comment. I think its safe to assume that he did. Sandra well, hopefully youll have a minute to have your coffee, john roberts, because this happening fast. It is. And the president will be departing soon and the helicopter land a while ago assuming hes on his way out and when the digital card comes in, not tape anymore, because its on things like credit cards well get it to you. Bill gina haspel is nominated to be the first ever cia female director and said a historic milestone. Jason chaffetz, good day to you. Here to talk about something entirely different but you spent a lot of time with mike pompeo. Tell us what we need to know and understand about him. Hes a wonderful human being and jovial and wicked smart. Leadership in the white house recognized his talent and gar e garage graduated number one at west point and somebody beloved by he people he worked with and the relationship he has with the president is probably second to none. I have to tell you theres a lot of people on capitol hill thrilled with this pick. Whatever role he goes into i think youll see a broad consensus, broad support for him both in the senate and house. Bill what do you think of the churn were seeing in the administration now . Look, you do these jobs for a year it seems to be Standard Practice for previous administrations but this happening 14 months in go ahead and characterize it as you see it from utah. Well, i think when you have one of the most senior, most important roles you have you have to have the confidence of the president. What mike pompeo brings to the table that almost nobody else does is the daily relationship and confidence in this person to execute. And so i think as the world looks at this and starts to digest it theyre going to understand when mike pompeo shows up on the scene or is having a conversation in private, its going to be a representation of the president of the United States. He is a very smart important in terms of management. Remember, when President Trump became President Trump one of the most strange relationships was the cia and the Clandestine Services and mike pompeo has smoothed that out and that has to happen in the state department particularly in south korea. We have to have an ambassador in south korea and that was complaint who is representing the United States in south korea. Bill President Trump went to the cia in washington, d. C. And made his first appearance. Gina haspel, do you know her . How well do you know her . I only know her by reputation and its a strong one. Shes a career person who has risen the rank within the organization itself and behind the scene that has earned the confidence of the men and women who work there. Its a big step for the president to name a new cia director. Bill where do you think it went wrong with tillerson and the president or was it a case of never being right or connected . Rex tillerson is immensely qualified and a good representative. Hes been successful in every job hes been to and by all accounts by most accounts whats happening overseas for the president is a strong thing. But when you dont have the daily interaction with a new president. Someone who doesnt come from the history of being in washington, d. C. , you have an outside businessman suddenly thrust in the role and getting new information and intelligence and a secretary of state whose job it is to be on the road and communicate with countries around the globe its not solidified as it is like with a mike pompeo. Bill i think it solidifies whats happening within the administration and president. These are President Trumps decisions and the staff lives by his decisions every hour of every day. Last comment and we have to run. The senate needs to confirm mike pompeo. Theyve confirmed it before but they need to get it in place with the pending talks with north korea. Bill thank you for your time. See you back in new york soon. Jason chaffetz former congressman back home and in utah. Sandra breaking news, Jonathan Swan from axios back now. The president is leaving the white house now. Hes on his way to marine one. Hell be flying to california to view the border wall prototypes. We are told he is answering reporter questions outside of the white house. Well listen for those and bring you news as we know it. Meanwhile, positive reaction pouring in. Lawmakers on the hill for mike pompeo to be one of the greatest secretary of states in the countrys history and tom cotton, a great nomination, he has a deep understanding of world affairs. It seems like theres universal agreement with the president this is the right man for the job. I wouldnt go that far as universal tom cotton is a strong conservative and supportive of the president. My information is tom cotton, who by the way, the president holds in the highest regard, listens to if not more than any other senator and its no surprise hes supportive. I think theres an open question about pompeo getting the votes in the senate. Im not saying he wont but remember its a very tight margin there and he is as closely associated with President Trump as is possible to be. Its hard to imagine democrats supporting him. You may see some democrats worried about their reelection this year like joe manchin where trump is popular in their states. I think he probably does get confirmed but i dont think its a universal love fest. Sandra hes received praise from both parties on the job. Well see where this goes. The president leaving the white house. Jonathan swan thank you for joining us and staying with us. Bill we anticipate comments and when they come along well pass them to you. More coming up in a moment. Other big stories of the day include the president s trip to california. Coming up, amid a growing showdown with sanctuary cities and states. Today im calling on congress to stop funding sanctuary cities so we can save american lives. Bill will Congress Take up the call and cut funding to cities and states. We will talk about that live coming up plus all the other breaking news. Sandra a manhunt underway in austin, texas as three deadly packages explode. The police chief join us with the latest on this investigation and the manhunt. We had long deployments in iraq. 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Tillerson is proud of his National Security accomplishment hell miss state colleagues and work the department of defense and secretary matis. He wishes secretarydesignate pompeo well. If youre just joining us, here is the news, Rex Tillerson is out as secretary of state. Mike pompeo has been nominated by the president to be the next secretary of state. And gina haspel working at the cia will be nominated to be the next director of the cia. The first