Exceed 6,350 for an individual, 12,700 for a family. Bill now insurers can set a higher limit or no limit at all. Whats this all about . Reporter apparently its about computers. They say we didnt have the Computer Systems in place. We need another year. In the meantime people watching the show you could probably end up paying more out of pocket expenses. Some of these insurance policies could have no limit at all. Bill i thought the law was designed to help the uninsured. This is the second major thing thats been tweaked. They also got rid of the employer penalty. Big businesses dont have to pay a penalty. And you still have to pay a penalty if you dont have the insurance. And if you do who knows how much you are going to be paying, but it feels like it will be a lot more. Bill some consumers may have to pay more, if some have to pay more then they are paying for others somehow some whelan that ends up a hidden tax to americans. The point is. Its a tax that keeps growing. Nothing about bending that socalled cost curve. Someone with a chronic illness, cancer, m. S. Someone who goes to the Doctors Office a lot uses up their deductible rapidly. This is a disaster. Its elementary at the basis of it was supposed to stop at the very least it would stop this kind of stuff. Bill you say the Insurance Companies are been figure it from this. They were the bad guys in the debates over this law. They were the bad guys writing up this law. The verbal rhetoric we heard on the campaign trail is the Insurance Companies helped write this. When this is all said and done a lot of big by businesses, Insurance Companies, hospitals, the pool of people that have to carry the burden for the entire country will get smaller and smaller. Funny how that works. This delay is hardly the first. There have been 10 provisions of the healthcare law that is supposed to start taking place in october that has been delayed or revised back on july 5. Staterun markets were put after for a year. They were supposed to verify employers claims about whether they receive or provide insurance. July 2 the administration delayed the employer mandate. That would have forced businesses to provide work were healthcare insurance. That also was put off until 2015. Bill so lots to talk about with kentucky senator rand paul. The fight to defund obamacare. Should republicans draw a fluent sand there. Plus a possible run for the white house in 2016, rand paul. Minutes away on americas newsroom. Martha three teenagers accused of brutally beating 13yearold on the school bus. Watch some of this. Leave them alone leave him alone you know you all going to jail. You all going to jail. Martha at the beginning of it hes just laying on the floor on that school bus. These are the three atearks. They are due in Juvenile Court. The police say the suspects repeatedly punched and kicked the victim, a lot of which you can see on the video. The boy was trying to crawl up the seat. The bus driver got up and verbally tried to stop them. Did not physically intervene. And there is some discussion about that. Do these defendants have anything to say in court this morning . Reporter all three 15yearolds arrived here an hour ago and none of them would answer any of my questions. Apparently their public defenders have told them dont say anything to the cameras. However, i was able to talk with one of the fathers. All three boys are upstairs in the courthouse. They are all charged with aggravated battery. And one is charged with stealing 5 from the 13yearold victim. This is what Julian Mcknight the father had to tell me about his son. Do you want to say anything to the victim in mr. Mcknight would you like to express any this has consumed much of the country. Now your son has his picture on the internet. Im sorry for the victim. But thats the way it is. Hes not a bad person. A bad school. Thats it. Reporter are you sorry . Hes sorry. Reporter hours later another of the three suspects and his mother arrived. I asked her if she had seen the school bus beating video and she gave me a reaction like oh, yeah, they had seen its many times. Clearly for these parents not. Proud day at the i courthouse. Martha have we heard from the victim . Reporter we are thinking the 13yearold, hes a 6th grader, would show up. The victim suffered injuries that day the beating happened, july 9. He was punched and kicked and tomorrowed a total of 50 times in 6 seconds. The injury was a fractured left arm. He is getting along recovery and doing quite well. The on person that was charged with anything other than the aggravated battery was Joshua Redden who picked up the 5 that was in the sock of the victim after the beat down. Its possible all three 15yearolds may enter their plea today. Martha thank you very much. This incident raising more questions about why we havent heard more from civil rights leaders like Reverand Jesse Jackson and al sharpton. What does their silence mean on this now . And does color matter at all in these situations . We are going to have a fair and balanced debate on that coming up in a little while. Bill House Republicans saying the irs is still singling out Tea Party Groups seeking tax exempt status three months after the irs became embroiled in a scandal. What are the new allegations now . Reporter this new testimony shows political applications are automatically getting second look and irs screeners have no guidance on how to proceed. This testimony come from an unnamed irs agent in the Cincinnati Office and its being held up as evidence that problems continue with the agency and Tea Party Groups are still being singled out. In a lower acting irs commissioner he said irs screeners continue to flag applications for secondary constitutional right any based on name alone. Senator levin says this screener is not screening Certain Applications but sending them owl for scrutiny out of an abundance of caution. Bill rrl where are we on the investigation into the irs. Reporter its dragging along. Rand paul appeared with hannity on fox, here is what he said. Reporter the president said within 30 days someone would be held responsible. My question is how come lois lerner is still collecting a check. Reporter lois lerner is head of the tax exempt division. She has been on administrative leave for the past 10 weeks. Martha the mystery of the socalled angel priest has been solved. We now know the identities of this man who comforted a teenaged crash victim when prayed with her and then left. Bill senator rand paul was the first to raise issues about unsecure weapons in libya. Senator rand paul is on deck. 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Why it is that my friend in the other party have made the idea of preventing these people from getting healthcare their holy grail. Their number one priority. The one unifying principle in the Republican Party at the moment is making sure that 30 Million People dont have healthcare. Bill his argument is quite clear. If you defund obamacare you prevent 30 million americans from getting health insurance. I think the opposite may be true. My fear is pell make insurance so expensive people who currently have insurance may lose their insurance and people who have insurance through their employer, may lose their insurance because their employer says i would rather pay a 2,000 penalty than providing 12,000 worth of insurance. Bill but then they would go to the government exchanges. Maybe, maybe not. If you maybe 30,000 a year and you are working for someone who is not required to provide you insurance, it may be more expensive than they could af the president would argue every program like this has growing pains. Medicare, social security. He used the example of a car Company Rolling out a new model. He talked about an ipad and apple. Here is the problem, the way our country works is legislation is written by congress, passioned by your representatives. The president doesnt get to write legislation. Its illegal and unconstitutional. If he says to you you are a political contributor of mine. Im going to give an exemption. Thats illegal. Thats not exemption under the law. Hes given exemption to specific restaurant and contributors. Hes giving the employer an emshun. He cant do that. It would be against the law for him to write the law. As it stand today how Many Democrats in the senate would vote for it . If that is the case, what is your option . If you have got zero democratic senators. The idea stops in the senate. Here is what would happen. The house is controlled by republicans and almost to a person we dont believe in funding obamacare. If we were to defund it in the house the senate would pass the funding with it included and you would have a compromise. When the house disagrees with the senate you go to a compromise committee. If you dont strive for what you believe in, if you dont try to defund the thing you just go with what the president wants. It should be a meeting in between. It shouldnt be my way or the highway. Bill you asked this of Hillary Clinton back in january. January 23. Is the u. S. Involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling trance transferring weapons to turkey out of libya . To turkey . I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody has ever raised that with me. You are saying you dont know. I do not know. I dont have any information on that. Bill the inference was weapons were going to syria by way of turkey. Now today we have this attorney who has been working with a lot of people in benghazi suggesting 400 surfacetoair missiles have gone mission and are likely in the hands of al qaeda operatives. If that is the case thats a big deal the administration has to handle. Im concerned about surfacetoair missiles being in the hand of islamic radicals. Im also concerned about Hillary Clinton not telling the truth. I dont think our Public Officials come before a committee and not tell the truth. The New York Times reported she was the largest and most vocal advocate of arming the Syrian Rebels. The New York Times also reported the cia has been involved with providing arms to the Syrian Rebels for over a year. We had no discussion of that so far. Bill was she not telling the truth . I dont know. I think she needs to be deposed again. Bill will you bring her back . I cant because we dont control any committees. I hope chairman issa will bring her back. Did it have anything to do with the misdirection campaign and did she have anything to do with not allowing the marines to aid their wounded brothers. Bill there are Tv Documentaries on the likes of Hillary Clinton. She is writing a book, there is a series of policy speeches shell roll out. What do you make of that . I dont know, maybe she is going to run for president. Bill would she be. Good president . I think her Decision Making process over benghazi should preclude her from being president. For six months leading up to the attacks they asked and asked and plead for more security and she says she never read the cables. Thats her job. I think thats inexcusable. Bill thank you for your time. South carolina in june, two trips to iowa. Whawould you make a good presid . Ill leave that to others. Martha a terrible tragedy at turner field after a baseball fan fell to his death. Atlanta police say he fell 65 feet from an upper deck to the parking lot. It happened during a rain delay. The man was brought to an area hospital in Critical Condition but sadly he died shortly after that. We are starting to learn more about this story this morning. What can you tell us . This morning the medical examiner released the identity of the victim as ronald homer of conyers, georgia. Thats a suburb to the east of the atlanta. The Associated Press is reporting the victim was 30 years old and his mother described him as a lifelong braves fan. Police are investigating the incident but say there is no indication of foul play. This appears to have been a terrible accident, martha. Martha what about the structural issues at the stadium. Is there any suggestion that was at fault . This is a stateoftheart stadium like other new stadiums around the country though this is not the first time Something Like this has happened. Last year a 20yearold from tennessee died after he fell over a railing at the georgia dome, a venue also in downtown atlanta. That happened during a College Football game. Authorities determined in that incident alcohol was involved. In 2011, a fan at a Texas Rangers game fell to his death after trying to catch a baseball for his young on who was also attending the game. Each time one of these incidents happens there is talk of raising the height of guardrails or installing netting to protect the fans but those proposals are always balances with strong consumer demand for unobstructed views of the game. Bill the fight or obamacare. Republican against republican. Should the gop draw a fine the sand and shut down the government . We debate that moment away. March first fire then the rain. A year after a devastating wildfire, a town in georgia, harrowing mudslide and flash flooding. Here are the survivors. I lost everything. But i survived and im happy i survived and i never thought of dying, that i was going to die. [ female announcer ] made just a little sweeter. Because all these whole grains arent healthy unless you actually eat them multigrain cheerios. Also available in delicious peanut butter. Healthy never tasted so sweet. Martha utah senator mike lee says conservatives should oppose any spending bill that would fund the law that could result in shutting down the government. Karl rove says that would be a huge mistake. Here they are battling it out on hannitys radio show. The Senate Democrats have the votes to amended it to send it back to say we approve spending for obamacare. And we are serng it back to you. And the onus then is on the house. The question is where are the votes to make this pass . Where are the votes to pass it . I just dont see it. And this assumes the democrats are going the democrats are going to be scared of a shutdown. They dont, they want it. They know what happened to us in 1995 when the government got shut down and they would love for to it happen again. This is the one tactic to guarantee the democrats pick up seats in 2014. You mean to suggest we are not going to fight and we shouldnt fight . Simply because we are so afraid of being blamed for it . This is how we get into this mess when we say we are afraid the other side is not going to cave so we have to. So we cave and we cave and we cave and we get obamacare and new entitlement programs that never go away. This is how we get into trouble. Good policy is to fight with everything in us. Do everything we possibly can to stop obamacare funding. Interesting, right . What do you think about that . Lets bring in doug schoen former pollster to president clinton, and brad blakeman. We have divided government. We have the house and democrats have the senate. And the president has the final say in signing a bill. I dont think we have enough votes to override the president s veto. Separate the Current Crisis of the debt ceiling, the continuing resolution for funding. Surgically defund obamacare. The president admitted its not ready for prime time by delaying the mandate for businesses. Unions are against obamacare and they have been the biggest supporters. Lets keep our eye on the prize. Martha bill just spoke to senator rand paul and aweighed in on this as well. Here is what rand palm said. If we were to defund it in the house the senate would pass the funding with it included then you would have a compromise and the compromise might be a delay. You go to conference committee. When the house disagrees with the senate you go to a Conference Exit ian thats where a compromise is