becoming a seat haven for terrorists. kevin. always good to meet with you. and it is not clear just how soon or how the president might react a pivotal reaching by the way. what is clear is he doesn't want to end america's involvement in this war is a longest involvement in a battle in american history nearly two decades long. as you pointed out that there was a key meeting here in new jersey just yesterday i can tell you about that and the president said this on twitter just completed a very good meeting. after thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars a deal could be an offering if key negotiators can agree on a plan. experts exist in all too quick exit a lasting deal. the whole organization. the objectives had run contrary to everything we hold dear. as you can imagine it's eager to see an end. this from the south carolina senator lindsey graham on twitter must have robust counterterrorism force with intel capability no matter what the taliban demands in order to protect the usa. he added this in another tweet. and review the reviewing and debating on any proposed peace agreement that affects the future presence in afghanistan. very quickly want to share some numbers. under consideration now is the plan that will see a significant drawdown of american forces. that was during the search around 14,000 last year up around 15,000 this year. sources tell fox news as the president continues to mall the decision they will have international stakeholders perhaps have a say in how they move ahead. the longest war. drag on. the former senior advisor in both the trumpet and bush administrations. is there any reason. >> not necessarily trust that a lot of people around the world they want power and unfortunately they are drastic. generally terrible people. you have some counterforce to that. give an afghan government that is not exactly awesome at what it does but nonetheless it will be a counterforce in of course the threshold issue could not be that it is sort of trustworthy or good people is whether we have achieved our fundamental objectives and whether these forces would be better used elsewhere. >> do you think we can achieve those objectives of preventing afghanistan from being a terrorist base if we withdraw? >> the first objectives weren't as sweeping as those. it was to get the person that brought us -- september 11 as far as well there be jihadist in afghanistan, probably but their they're jihadist in a lot of places around the world and we made it very clear last 20 years that there is a huge cost to hosting forces that actually strike the united states and that will be lost on people in afghanistan or around the world. certainly we haven't turned the place into a liberal democracy but again as far as proving the point. if the threat materializes. there is a disaster what would you predict and what would you advise as you see this going forward. >> i would advise the removal of troops. let's just do it. we've been there 20 years. everybody says we just need another year or two for them to be fully capable and that has been the story for about the last 15 years. i do think there will be continued assistance. if they cared to play a role in continuing to support the government. so we don't have a saigon south vietnamese instance where all aid is cut eight is cut off at the same time. i think the world has learned that lesson. just not do it with u.s. troops. i think there is utility in bringing them home. there is not a lot of support. >> do you see a possibility that if we do indeed withdraw completely that the taliban would take over. >> it's always a possibility. i don't think it will happen though. there is strong resistance. the afghan government is corrupt and incompetent. that is par for the course in that part of the world. i think you will see some very strong inhibition to doing that. we can always go back if necessary but the u.s. objective is not to turn the place into beverly hills. we fundamental threats from china. if everything is a priority nothing is a priority. it is easy enough to go back. >> of course we go back to september 11 and the resulting war against al qaeda then. is there a basis now, to threaten our country and our allies that has been formed in taliban in afghanistan is similar in any way towards the pre- september 11? >> there is always a threat. i think it has changed over the years from organized small forces it still warrants a lot of attention. but to be jihadist within. thankfully we haven't have another boston marathon situation or fort hood situation in recent years. islamists and jihadists acting against it. and then our break that big nationstates from iran and china from the jihadists in afghanistan. >> after the blood and sacrifice of our country and our people and you feel bottom line after nearly 20 years it is time for us to withdraw and leave it to others and to that government and to draw the line at this point? >> i do, again it became mission creep in both of those. we were just going into the street a threat that was very significant against us especially in afghanistan. it is not fully mission accomplished but i'm sure it's good enough. we made our point about hosting terrorist forces in again all of the people brought us names 11 are either dead. they are they are certainly removed from the battlefield. they hope to head something by september 1. we will see that indeed it does happen. >> tomorrow there will be more honest on sunday morning futures. they will talk about the future of our country's involvement in afghanistan she has that interview with lindsey graham. they can find any common ground. the crisis at the southern border and in the u.s. china trade show them. maria and lindsay tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. here to make i want to do that same thing with gun violence. i want to commit that while i am president we reduce gun violence by 80% across this country. we have almost 400 million guns in this 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debt here the democrats gather. we are leading the effort to cancel all student debt in this country. and we are doing that in the richest country in the history of the world patient should not had a lower standard of living than your parents. >> they left past bernie. it was also on her way to south carolina estate where a majority of democratic primary voters are african-american. she is using sharp language to promise action on racially motivated violence in this country. >> we need to treat white nationalism like the terrorist threat that it is. we need to take it seriously and we need a department of justice. that takes it seriously. joe biden has a big lead right now but joe biden is not here to advance his case at all. he has been quiet all week on vacation in delaware. >> peter you. >> the chief medical examiner has ruled the death of jeffrey epstein was suicide by hanging. he was waiting trial on federal tax trafficking charges involving underage girls when he was found unresponsive in his jail cell last morning. now his lawyers are challenging their spy needs. others continue to speculate on if he was murdered. we are joined with more details in the weeklong saga. the defense team surveillance video from around his self after some medical experts had questions about how he broke certain bones in his neck all by himself. they had marks on his neck indicated indicating he used a bedsheet to hang himself but the washington post in the new york times reported epstein broke multiple net bones including at highway phone which can break it needs but is more commonly broken invites regulation. because they are to public record in new york. we may not ever know what determined it to be suicide. she needed further information to make a determination. oftentimes medical examiners working sitter background information or witness interviews. right now there are at least five separate probes into his death including by the doj come in fbi and congress and house judiciary committee discussed launching investigating into his death what i'm talking about is you have a guy who has committed acts. they are rich and powerful people. they have to get to the bottom of it. they find some real concrete answers to what happened here. in some of the guards on duty were forced to work overtime. they are looking into whether guards assigned fell asleep on the job or falsified bed check records. >> does investigations into his finances also continue. >> there are new concerns right now about what the fallout could be. these two members of congress. it should be concerned about the bond with the only democracy in the mideast. 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the controversial movement. critics call it a political stunt. omar is still barred from entering. they are questioning rashida tlaib's motives. israel is very respectful in knife to representative rashida tlaib allowing her permission to visit her grandmother as soon as she was granted permission she grinned sanded and loudly claimed she would not visit israel. to this been set up israel acted appropriately. this week the israeli government prevented congressman rashida tlaib and omar from visiting this weekend. they would be allowed to visit. she wanted to visit her 90-year-old grandmother. it may be her last chance to see her before she died and agreed not to promote an international boycott of israel during the trip. after israel granted the request though, she added to the have dispensing in the statement that she actually won't make the trip after all. the israeli government used my love and desire to see my guy grandmother to silence me. they are afraid. they are living under occupancy. it quickly responded to this as well. it was just a provocative request. apparently her hate for israel overcomes her love for her grandmother. israel has received criticism from several republicans and democrats for blocking them including the house speaker pelosi who nancy pelosi who called a sign of weakness. and they can withstand we cannot let them stand in the way of their ongoing relationship. members here make their own decision about this i would not discourage travel to israel at this time. congressional reaction to this is important because the trumpet administration is trying to work out a peace deal between palestinians and israel and congressional approval. it would be needed before any agreement could become official. for more on this right now we won't bring and dan hillerman. thank you so much for being here. >> is good to be with you. what did you make of this unprecedented move. your first thought when you heard or read about yahoo denying entry to to u.s. congress women were critical of israeli policy? >> will, i don't have much love or respect for those to congresswoman but frankly, i would allow them to come to israel. they would find a very democratic society. everybody who comes to israel and realizes that the reason the real israel creative company. it is so different from the perception is so different from those that have it. we don't have anything to be afraid of. congresswoman rashida tlaib is now being provocative and scheming and hypocritical by not coming. >> meanwhile how do you assess present trump's influence in this decision. president trumps is a great fan of israel i think said what he felt said what he thought was right and good for israel and i believe him. i really do believe it. considering is the president. is that okay. can the bar to sitting congresswoman. that is for him is for him to consider whether it is right for him to interfere with the affairs of congress. or with the internal affairs of israel. i'm sure that he did it. with the sympathy for israel. however, i would be very worried at this would influence the american influence reaction. what it would always be to a bipartisan support of israel. in both houses and in the white house through history, the support for israel. the relation between israel and the united states. totally a bipartisan bipartisan issue and i would hate for this to become an issue. i think we should make every effort to keep this in the friendship with his room totally bipartisan with both democrats and republicans realizing that israel is the best ally that the united states has not only in the united states maybe in the whole world. it seems that you sit on the side of house speaker nancy pelosi on this. you're talking to the associated press same with a deep relationship and long-standing relationship with israel that can't withstand donald trump in benjamin yahoo. we cannot let the weakness stand in the way of their ongoing relationship we cannot let their weakness stand in our ongoing relationship. the point is i want to ask you. do you see this as a sign of weakness. it appears that you don't believe that it will interrupt that u.s. into -- relationship with israel. >> i don't see this as a sign of weakness. i think the president said what he felt. he is a very outspoken person i think they agreed with the president. both politically and democratically to take these decisions. i don't think there was any interference here on the part of the president i think he voiced his opinion. the prime prime minister of israel has agreed with him. whether or not united states president would have a voice that decision. i do think that the reason is. and the israeli people and the american people have shared over the years so strong and so blasting that no like this one which at the end of the day is small look into the cause of history could influence. i think this relationship will last and will strengthen with time because as i said i feel that very strongly israel is truly a vibrant democracy and a liberal country. and a best friend that the messy test. >> the palestinian american as you know. supports adding pressure on israel to end occupation of the west bank and she is calling for a palestinian state. does this current controversy put this topic front and center at the un with all due respect. i don't think that that united nations general assembly needs they congresswoman to condemned israel that united nations assembly about 26 totally out lasted the united nations has three standards. enter for democracy a standard for totalitarian state. i don't think that what they said or does. i do think the citizens of minnesota and michigan should take a look at both of them. with those two congresswoman who are i think proving to be a disgrace in a disservice to the constituents who actually elected them. well had either of those congresswoman here to defend themselves. thank you ambassador. the federal courts. the confusion at 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initiative that we stem the flow of illegal immigration. they tried to fight the policies. the reality though is that they don't feel foreigners. it acts like a ticking time bomb. it's remarkable what this administration is up to. in california well have none of it. next up on the case is the ninth circuit will hear oral arguments. october 1. they are filed by immigrant rights groups they plan to make the case that it will hurt children the most. >> thank you. >> for more on this let's go to john. john, as you just said it's a game changer at least in the administration. in the texas border. i think the underlying rule here is probably still on a little bit of a shaky legal grounds. your two judges in this case republican judges one of which appointed by president trump making the argument in this case i do think that it's hard to read this as anything other than a win for the white house on the issue of nationwide injunction. a little bit one. i realized. a legal argument. this is something that the president has been railing against for two and half years and has attorney general has been arguing in legal circuit --dash makes the circles that this has been not just with conservatives but with liberals and people in the middle and legal scholars as well. they have a long reputation. is very liberal district. a complete and total disaster in a horrible reputation he says. this overturned more than any of in the country any way to predict what could happen in october when here's the challenge on the administration. >> there are other cases bubbling up. we may see a case in the fifth circuit. we have the potential a kind wind up on the supreme court. in the trumpet administration has been looking for a case to settle this issue of nationwide injunctions for a while. i'm not a legal scholar but it seems like this can be a potential case to do that with. >> in terms of what we've heard about. the numbers had been decreasing in part because of the new efforts in guatemala. any sense on the success of that policy by the administration especially as they tout what's going on with guatemala using that as a third country preventing those people from walking up and coming to our border. i think the trumpet administration has pushed very hard for that agreement. we have a roughly 19,000 people in mexico making a legal claim. i think it's really unsettled. if you have a system where you have a separate system that then you have in texas in new mexico where it may be a more strict system that has a potential to add to the chaos on the border i don't think the administration has fully figured out how they will handle that. we've seen some dhs officials talk about that. it is seen as something that is successful. it's happening because of the summer. i think the numbers to go down in the summer. the president would talk a lot of his rallies about the numbers going down as they made in the process more difficult for folks. the numbers then went back up. ultimately this sort of comes down to washington not been able to get its act together on immigration and this white house and the one before it to accomplish its goals. do you see any possibility of agreement. and i think until after the election. that's a good point. finally historically the numbers of denial are just unbelievable. let's take a look at the syracuse study from last year. 75 percent of those seeking asylum in guatemala they are turned down 66 percent from mexico. any sense on what the numbers are now. and people have said they have credible fear of persecution and death. because of the gangs and the poverty do you have any sense of where the numbers are at this point? i don't know if they have moved from the study. obviously the white house has made the case that there is a problem with the asylum law. the administration feels like there are folks gaming the system coming into the country using the asylum laws to stay in the country. there is two sides of that. a fair number of people that are showing up to their hearings despite arguments that they are not. if you it's a tough issue. it does speak to the idea that the asylum law has as its written now. has another time. the administration i think i want to make some changes to that but obviously they are not getting anywhere in congress so they are pushing for some of these changes. if a lot of folks sitting on the border. they are ready to make the claim. and actually does have some ideas. we will see what the impact is. we will look at that from a certain point of time. john, thank you for joining us. in the government we are live from hong kong coming up next. credit cards right- by consolidating your credit card debt into one monthly payment. and get your interest rate right. so you can save big. get a no-fee personal loan up to $100k. stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate i switched to miralax for my constipation. the nerves in your colon. miralax works with the water in your body to 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