and we'll put that together, mark. >> good afternoon to you. the coronavirus would top the g20. and they're looking for a vaccine just like in the united states. we've seen a screen shot of the president participating in a zoom meeting with world leaders. very 2020. the president is at his golf club. we've seen him saying he won the election claiming victory even though there hasn't been voter fraud around the country. we heard from the press secretary who says the results they have a result to question at this point. >> it was not an orderly transition that he was given and now, it's voters simply ask questions about a fraught lent mail-in ballot system we're told we're crazy and subverting democracy. the hypocrisy is real. >> republicans on capitol hill are not thrilled that this process keeps getting dragged out. utah senator mitt romney criticizing the president's meeting with michigan lawmakers as they get ready to certify on monday. having failed to make a case of wide spread conspiracy he's at t the-- it's worse or more unfitting action by an american president. yet to hear how it went with the representatives from michigan. they put out their own statement that said they did not see anything that would change the election. the state leader in michigan as well as the republican party called on delays before monday seeing if they can get another recount around the detroit area, unclear if that's going to happen. but a lot of states are moving forward with certification even as the president claims that he won the election in michigan and elsewhere. leland: the quote from two michigan legislators who met with president, we're going to follow the normal process. it is 2020 after all. thank you. >> president-elect joe biden working to put together his cabinet and could name his top picks, hillary vaughan has more on the top runners for the post. hi, hillary. >> hi, alicia. president-elect joe biden already said he made his up his mind for treasury secretary. and axios is reporting other picks. here is on the short list for secretary of state. former ambassador susan rice, ambassador william burns, senator chris murphy, anthony blinken and senator chris coons, who was asked by fox this week if he was it. >> am i the next secretary of state? >> you're talking to an engaged senator from delaware who is looking forward to the tran r transition. >> one position left left lipping erring-- lingering is labor secretary, and bernie sanders made it clear he would like the job. his own colleagues in the senate are not jumping at the chance to praise him as a potential pick. senator who was on earlier, dodged when he was asked what he thought as bernie sanders for labor secretary? >> we have a deep bench in the biden cabinet. i have confidence that joe biden cabinet will reflect this nation and the priorities that he's campaigned on during the presidential campaign. >> and president-elect biden was also asked directly by fox this week if there was room in his cabinet for bernie sanders. but he, too, refused to answer the question. alicia. >> hillary vaughan in delaware. thanks, hillary. lela leland. leland: protests right know you in atlanta, just a day after georgia election officials have certified the results there. live pictures right now outside of the georgia state capitol. right there noon in alanta. the president's supporters have gathered and you can see the pro trump signs and flag waving and the confederate flag waving as well. and charles watson with more on what these folks want. hi, charles. >> good afternoon leland. you can zoo-- you can see dozens of trump supporters and stop the steal rally is underwayment let's look at some of them behind me, there's a truck in the way, but there's been sort of like a parade going on. folks coming and honking their horns. there are lines of trump supporters up and down the street with trump 2020 signs, american flags and you have a lot of folks with stop the steal signs alluding to the idea that this election was somehow stolen from president trump. now, you know, as i mentioned, these folks believe that this election was stolen from the president. they believe things like dead people voted or that votes were somehow tossed, those are all unsubstantiated claims that have largely been amplified by the president himself. there is a push among the supporters for governor brian kemp to sort of call some sort of special election to sort of get a rein on claims of voter fraud, again, those are claims that have been-- that are unsubstantiated. and secretary of state raften berger repeatedly defended the election and audit completed earlier this week so not exactly clear what the supporters expect to happen in the way of another recount or audit, but certainly, there's a lot of police presence out here so far, things have been peaceful, but again, there are-- there is a counter protest just around the corner with folks who have long rifles, so, there is a-- some, you know, high tensions out here. we've seen a little bit of a verbal spat between the two sides already so again, law enforcement out here keeping an eye on things, but so far largely peaceful, guys. leland: we can hear the helicopters above you and looking down at the capitol square, you mentioned a lot of law enforcement and we're seeing that as well. back to brian kemp, who is the georgia governor, he gave an interview and greg bluestein has been a guest on the show. a quote from brian kemp, i understand why he's frustrated, he's a fighter, meaning the president of the united states, i've got to follow the laws of this state and that's exactly what i'm doing, brian kemp the governor of georgia. is there anger at brian kemp for certifying the results and going forward with the process or request to change things for the special election that could decide control of the senate? >> i'm a little-- among the supporters out here we haven't seen any folks who have directly directed their anger towards the governor, but again, there is a push for him to sort of take some sort of action to sort of, you know-- they say there are claims there is some sort of voter fraud, unsubstantiated claims and they want the governor to do something about that. and they are at the state capitol to put pressure on the governor. again, not clear what if anything that the governor could do about another recount or if that will change the election results out here, but these guys are at least trying to make something happen. leland: continuing with some of the governor quotes, republicans have always done a good job of fighting hard and beating each other up and coming back together not only for republicans in georgia, but around the country. looks like, charles, the crowd is beginning to grow by the minute. we had it was scheduled to start at noon eastern. we'll check with you in the next couple of hours, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> and we're going to continue discussion. joining us now is republican georgia congressman and member of the house oversight committee, thank you for being here today. appreciate it. so much has happened in the past 24 hours as leland and charles were just discussing. this vote has been certified in georgia by both the secretary of state and by the governor, but also, we had a tweet this morning from the president saying that there was big voter fraud coming out of georgia, stay tuned. and within the last half hour, the lt. governor of your state, a republican says that it appears that biden has secured the vote in georgia. so where do things stand in your eyes at this point? >> listen, there are so many irregularities and problems with the election in georgia and it all started when the secretary of state stamped out an application for absentee ballots to everyone on the voter registration list. we know, we know at least 5 to 10% of that list is inaccurate. so, we have applications going out, a very simple application to hundreds of thousands of voters potentially tens and tens of thousands, certainly, who are not legal voters, and those requests arrive in someone's mailbox. >> but, congressman, excuse me, you're talking about inaccuracies and the president is talking fraud. are you talking about the same thing? >> it's fraudulent for someone who is illegal in this state to fill out that application and receive a ballot and turn it back in. and to are anyone to think that that did not happen is lunacy. it has happened. in addition to that we did not do a good job at verifying the signatures in this thing. it was -- there are all sorts of problems that were involved in this election that need to be dived into. we just simply have a recount. we have not had an audit and hopefully when the recount is requested by the president and their team, they will be able to begin to in some degree of audit of the actual ballots and we'll see what that reveals, but there's no question, there have been some major loopholes in the legal potential of voting and in that there's been tremendous potential for fraud in this state and we need to make sure that that did not happen. >> as you know, the secretary of state of georgia, a republican stand by the work that's been done in his state with regard to the vote and he defended himself just before the certification came out. take a listen. i'm a passionate conservative and as i've said before i'm a proud trump supporters, with him early in the 2016 election cycle. as secretary of state, i believe the numbers that we have presented today are correct. the numbers reflect the verdict of the people, not a decision by the secretary of state's office, or of courts, or of either campaigns. >> as you know, congressman, this man has come under a tremendous amount of heat from republicans themselves all the way up to the presidency. is there a risk that your party looks like it's eating its own? >> no, what needs to happen is we make sure that the debacle of this past election is not repeated with the senate election and the areas where there was-- were there were openings for fraud that those are closed, that we abide by the law, that only legal ballots are counted and only legal ballots are submitted. that obviously in my opinion did not happen. there were, i think all of us in the republican congressional delegation had a personal conversation with the secretary of state in march urging him not to send applications for absentee ballots to everyone on the voter registration list. we knew that this was going to be the outcome, that he didn't listen to our visor advice of many others and he did it anyway and as a result we've had a disaster in this election, and it will be repeated in january with the senate race unless we close the doors on some of the potential illegal activity that took place. we've got to assure that the voters of georgia, that their vote counts. we've got to ensure them that this election is not rigged and that do that, we've got to close the doors on some of the cracks that were in the door this time, they ever raised so many questions and i hope the secretary of state and others around with him will take appropriate measures to ensure that this next election is as fair as possible and only legal ballots submitted. >> congressman, we will continue to watch this. i'm sorry, we're running out of time and we didn't get to talk about the senate runoff going on in your senate which everybody is talking about as well. really appreciate your time today. we'll continue to watch georgia. have a good one. and be sure to catch fox news sunday tomorrow, chris wallace has an exclusive interview with dr. tom ingelsby, health center at johns hopkins. check your local listings for time and channel and ho howie kirtz will take a look at the growing number of coronavirus cases, that's media buzz and he's also join us in our next hour. leland: back live to atlanta as news warrants, vandenberg base in california minutes away from the launch of nasa's newest satellite. and we're joined by the chairman of the space history department. the national space museum. good to see both of you. as folks at home see this rocket go to work and the satellite, how will that change their life. >> it's a mission part of a continuous series we've been able to use for the last 28 years to measure sea level. and that's the sea level rise and noaa is using it every day to help improve weather forecast and particularly forecasts of hurricanes. leland: all right. think about the hurricane season this past year and with a couple of them, especially that intensified so quickly, think about marco and laura that combined and the massive storm, category form and the massive hurricanes that went in, and through the normal alphabet and through the greek alphabet. how will this track them better? >> we'll be an i believe to look at the sea level and see the heat in the ocean and send that to the forecasters. and that's critical for mapping the rapidly intensifying storm. >> we're just about a minute away from launch, 9:17 pacific time for it to go up. and i wanted to ask you, margaret, there's been such a change at the air and space museum. it's a place that's special to me, going there with my mom as a little boy and never forget. i'm sure a lot of people. how do we move from public exploration to private exploration with spacex and some of the other private firms working on this? >> well, those are some of the stories that we're excited about telling at the smithsonian and we're working on a whole new set of exhibits. the museum is closed due to covid, but we're looking forward to include stories like this launch of an earth satellite. looking at earth and thinking about what that really tells us about living on this planet that is surrounded by constellations of satellites-- >> margaret, i'm going to interrupt you for a second as the rocket goes up. >> lift-off the sent the nell-6, for all humanity. leland: margaret, back to you on this, is it harder to inspire people with space and aviation because so much has gotten so routine, if you will? >> i think that space flight is never entirely routine and i think the desire for people to come out and see launches and people would have loved to be at vanderberg. if viewers are on the west coast, they may hear a sonic bomb goes supersonic and we try to bring these to the next generation. leland: reengaging, if you will. eric, real quick in terms of how this helps with weather forecasts in general. we're on the margin, how much does understanding sea level rise and ocean temperatures really change what you all are able to do? >> well, they're especially critical as we talked about for hurricane forecasts. in addition to sentinel-6 carries for nasa a profile of the atmosphere and use the instrument to track hurricanes from formation until they dissipate. leland: in the path of the hurricanes, we would appreciate anything we could get. margaret, back to you, what they're doing in space advertising this launch so people can watch remotely, but how do you keep the inspiration and engagement when people can't come see the apollo 11 lander and some of the other great exhibits you all have? >> well, we have a wonderful web and virtual presence. we've been holding our lectures, which have been very well-attended virtually and i think people love the opportunity from their living room to hear from sonny williams, an astronaut who just had for the glenn lecture. and a chance to come to the website and look for our educational materials for kid doing school at home we have a lot to offer on the web and virtually through our social media channel. >> and doctor, this is alicia acuna from denver and as we look at these pictures for progress. why do we go to space to study what's happening in the ocean? >> a great question and it's really because of the view that it gives and the ability to have a complex instrument like this backed by an international consortium of researchers. really allows for continual data sets that give us a much better look at climate change, at rising sea levels. if your visitors, your viewers are on a coastline or if they ever like to go to the beach, this is a satellite that's doing science that's very relevant to you. >> and eric, i have a question for you, because this comes into play when we were talking about environmental problems as well as environmental disasters like oil spills. this gives you hard data, doesn't it? >> exactly. the data from sentinel-6 will go right into ocean levels with noaa and using those to protect currents, we need those when there are disasters and search and rescue. as mentioned, we are going to use the measurements, sea level doesn't rise at the same rate all over the globe and we'll need these constant observations to map where sea levels are changing and give that information to the coastal communities so they can better plan for the next decade. >> that's just fantastic and i'm sure leland vittert will appreciate a lot of the hurricane data that comes, he tend to find himself in that path. leland: every once in a while. margaret, as you looked at sort of the track of people being interested in space and space exploration, it's been so long since america did anything truly new and different in terms of the overall mission, obviously, we had the shuttle, the international space station, we've got return to flight now with spacex from launching american astronauts from american soil on an american rocket. is there any thought given from a historical perspective on what the next frontier must be? because we-- we've heard mars articulated, but not really a kennedy-esque challenge issued. >> i think that people are looking back to the moon. i think that people are looking to mars. we're also looking at all the excellent robotic science that's being done remotely where people are being able to, as researchers think about distant planets, didn't moons, distant galaxies that we can really grasp what's going on there. i think that's an important achievement and no small achievement of having 20 years of human occupation on the international space station. the scientific platform and learning about our bodies in space is important. leland: at some level looking at the pictures never gets old. on that note, eric, how did you get inspired to do what you do? >> i think in the early days in the space shuttle. i wanted to listen in to hear the space shuttle talk back to the earth and i wrote a program to figure out where the shuttle would be passing over the earth. that inspired me-- as you said the view back to earth what we can learn to measure our environment. leland: when you're the mission scientist on this, does that mean this satellite is your baby? >> looking forward to this for 10 years so it's a very emotional day. leland: give knee-- give me some of your thoughts, how do we know it works. >> we'll check it out and we'll be checking the data within about section months. leland: wow, well, eric, we'll be thinking about you next sushg season, at least i will be as i'm looking at the forecast and remembering this launch. our thanks to you and all of your fellow scientists and margaret, as well, on behalf of somebody who used to go to aaron space all the time and inspired so much of my life and thanks for the memories and thanks for what you're doing to continue those for so many folks now in the next generation. >> we look forward to having you and your families back soon. leland: alicia and depending how powerful the cameras are on this satellite, i kind of wonder whether or not they're going to be able to see the lines at the in and out burger that just opened there in denver with 14-hour waits for a cheeseburger? >> right, i would be able to fly to los angeles, eat there, and fly back before i made it to the drive-thru window at the new in and out burger here. it is crazy. leland: that was something to see. we just saw one rocket cut off here and this may be watching the spacex rocket come back down to earth which it's able to do and pretty remarkable land on a ship. sometimes we get to see that as it happens live. we'll stick with these pictures. it's interesting, alicia, in the middle of a country in denver, colorado the space business, especially the private space business has been an incredible boon to the economy out there. >> it has. >> thank you very much. >> and thanks for having me. >> and we here, the space companies here and the technology companies aerospace and beyond are involved in so many of these launches. they're just sort of the quiet players in these most wonderful images that we see. because we hear a lot of what's coming out of california, what's coming out of texas and florida, of course. so, yeah, absolutely here in colorado, definitely a big player here and it's so nice, leland. don't you think, with everything we're dealing with right now to just be able to focus on something that just shows progress and some things with science. leland: what you're seeing the rocket is returning to earth and gets to be reused and something unthinkable 10 years ago and you saw it come back down, which is pretty remarkable to think about when you think about progress as well and noteworthy pushing into the frontiers of space is something that unites both president trump and president-elect joe biden how they view the space program and american returning to excellence and exploration in space and nasa tv folks look pretty happy there. >> absolutely. we need is moment for everybody to be grateful for. >> many restaurants worked very hard to follow our precautions, but people indoors, gathering together not wearing masks right now is simply too risky. >> believe me, more than anything in the world i wished none of this is necessary, but there's no doubt these changes are necessary. we need to act now to reduce the rate of increase and flatten the curve once again. leland: that was the philadelphia mayor. there's a group of philadelphia restaurant owners who are suing the mayors over new covid related restrictions and claiming the order violates their constitutional rates for equal protection and will hurt them financially. we bring in the attorney for the owners and one of the owners of nick's roast beef. we appreciate you being with us. matt, first to you on a personal basis, this has to be devastating in terms of just getting your business back going and wham. >> yeah, it's been a tough nine months that we've all faced and it's been around the country, we've all been dealing with the same things and adhering to every guideline that's been put in front of us, trying to stay safe, keep our customers safe, keep our employees safe and ourselves. it's been nothing, but a challenge and an expense. we've made every-- everything they've asked us to from permits to add tents to outside, to additional ppe, to heaters, as we got into the winter months and now-- >> going into the wintertime it gets cold in philadelphia. i can imagine it's hard to have a business if he can't bring people inside into the space you're paying for? >> yeah, one of the biggest challenges i see every day is walking into in building and realizing i can't put people in it today. one of the things we've been fighting against and one of the stats we've been using is that, you're now pushing people from being inside in our controlled environments where everyone's regulating us, we're inspected on a very regular basis, to now push them out-- >> i've got to interrupt you for a second. we want to bring you urgent election news. reuters reporting now that the republican national committee and the michigan state republican party have asked michigan's election canvass board to ajourn for 14 days to allow for an audit of the vote in wayne county, which is detroit, michigan. unclear whether or not that is actually going to happen, we know that the state republican leadership from the state legislature met at the white house with president trump yesterday, which was friday. the white house downplayed the importance of that meeting saying it was not an advocacy meeting saying no members of the trump campaign were going to be at the meeting. after the meeting with a president trump, those two republican lawmakers came out and said they had seen no evidence to change the results of michigan's elections and said they wanted to quote, follow a normal process in terms of how the election was going to be certified. this is a slightly different wrinkle and change on this. it appears to not be coming from the republicans that we discussed and that mark meredith discussed meeting with the president, but this is again from the state republican party and the republican national committee to the michigan board of canvassers, not to the wayne county board that has its own issues, saying they want an audit of votes in wayne county. obviously, we're going to follow that, seeing exactly in terms of what this means and talk to lawyers about what exactly would have to happen for the state board of canvassers if they wanted to, to agree to this request from the republican national committee and the state republican party. we've got some reporters working the phones right now and get back to that as soon as we can. alicia. >> and the race for the vaccine is heating up with pfizer applying for emergency approval of its vaccine and the u.s. is breaking another coronavirus record. we'll have the latest numbers next. want to brain better? 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>> i think with our situation here and why ours are different from the ones initially. we had nine months, theories where gyms and restaurants were spreaders and that was the theory. what has been done, the government body, agencies, whatever, to determine whether the theories are correct or incorrect. we don't have the answers, we don't have what they're containing the basis on and the fact is that we had gone for nine months where there's been operation with restrictions and i think that the restauranteurs and their workers as well as the public at large needs to know what has the city done to know whether or not these restrictions were working. leland: you make an excellent point in terms of exactly what is the science and how do you pick the winners and losers of a wawa for example, over nick's roast beef. gentlemen, we'll appreciate it there. brian, if you have any more on the science we'd be interested. thank you both. >> absolutely, thank you so much. leland: alicia. alicia: pfizer has applied for emergency use of its vaccine as the number of coronavirus cases in the united states rises. christina coleman is live in los angeles with the latest developments. hi, christina. >> hi, alicia, well, right now covid cases are surging from coast to coast, hospitalizations are on the rise and officials are putting more restrictions in place to try and stop the spread of this virus. now, more than 254,000 people have died from covid in the u.s. and hospitalizations hit an all-time high on thursday, with more than 80,000 people being treated for the virus. as of yesterday, at least 30 states saw a 20% or more increase in covid hospitalizations over the past several days. 25 states also reported more than 20% increase in covid infections over the past week. there's been a dramatic spike in cases in the midwest. the c.d.c. is urging people not to travel for thanksgiving as more cities and states put covid lockdowns and restrictions in place, in california, an overnight curfew goes into effect tonight and the government says nonessential work and gatherings must stop from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. in hard-hit areas, that will impact most of the state. as of now, the curfew is set to last a month. the good news, a vaccine appears to be right around the corner. yesterday pfizer asked u.s. regulators for emergency use of its covid-19 vaccine. if approved, the two-shot vaccine could be available as early as next month for health care workers and people in high risk groups. pfizer reported that its vaccine appeared to be 95% effective. now, it's unclear how long it will take the f.d.a. to review this vaccine, but considering how fast this deadly virus is spreading, the agency is expected to move quickly. alicia. >> thank you, christina coleman in los angeles. for more insight let's turn to infectious disease expert and senior scholar at john hopkins, thank you so much for being here. we just heard christina's report, there's hope there with the vaccine coming, but we're headed into such a busy week with the holiday. what are your concerns right now? >> my concern is that people are going to continue to behave as if we're not in a pandemic and what we're seeing now is that private gatherings, less than restaurant, as we heard in prior segment, and people gather from all different parts of the country and this is where they're going to let their guards down. jump from one person to another. in 10 to 14 days we're going to have a conversation about our hospitals being in more crisis ap there's no end in sight. that's what i'm worried about. the vaccines are going to be great. there's a light at the end of the tunnel, but there's a lot of tunnel to go. alicia: with so many warnings and guidelines out there. folks are still going to do what they want to do. it's the holidays, it's hard for people to imagine giving some of this up, they've given up so much this year. you have guidelines for people, don't you. i'd like to put this on the screen. it's important for some people to keep things in mind. let's start with the college students. what is your concern there? >> colleges have been hot spots of infection where there's been variable enforcement, quarantine and isolation. variables amounts much testing and lots of off-campus activities leading to hot spots. some colleges are better than other. but in general when a college student returns home you have to think of them as a high risk contact. if you've got vulnerable people in the household this could set up a chain of transmission in the house and you have to be careful can you get your college student tested. are you going to try to keep him or her six feet away from vulnerable populations that might be coming over for thanksgiving. what are they going to do in their hometown, gather with high school friends? which is common with high school students returning from campus. all of that is important and you have to be careful with that group of the population. alicia: what can folks do when they have people over, when they're going to do the best that they can? what can they do, inside, outside, what do you suggest? >> so, outside is always better than inside and if you're inside. try to make it close to outside as possible. maybe hope some windows and have a hiybrihybrid, indoor-out thing. if there are less people around the table, that means less virus. if you keep the different households, to a minimum. if you have people from different households, pod them, don't have people congregating around food. maybe if you can, get people to try to wear face shields or face masks when they're not eating. if people can get tested, it decreases the risk, but we saw at the white house rose garden, it's not something to rely on, but a rapid turn around. alicia: thank you very much for your time. we appreciate your expertise. >> thank you. leland: always an excellent conversation. black friday is fast approaching, but there's a lot of retailers already rolling out the deals. what this means for your e-mail inbox when we get back. i'm kalvin, and there's more to me than hiv. i'm a peer educator,... a fitness buff,... and a champion for my own health. i talked with my doctor... and switched to... fewer medicines with... dovato. prescription dovato is for some adults who are starting hiv-1 treatment or replacing their current hiv-1 regimen. with...just 2 medicines... in 1 pill, dovato is as effective as a 3-drug regimen to help you reach and stay undetectable. research shows people who take hiv treatment as prescribed... and get to and stay undetectable... can no longer transmit hiv through sex. don't take dovato if you're allergic to any of its ingredients... or if you take dofetilide. hepatitis b can become harder to treat while taking dovato. do not stop dovato without talking to your doctor,... as your hepatitis b may worsen or become life-threatening. serious or life-threatening side effects can occur, including allergic reactions,... lactic acid build up, and liver problems. if you have a rash and other symptoms of an allergic reaction,... stop taking dovato and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis b or c,... or if you are, may be, or plan to be pregnant. your doctor may prescribe a different medicine... than dovato if you plan to be pregnant or if pregnancy is confirmed during the first trimester. dovato may harm your unborn baby. use effective birth control while taking dovato. most common side effects are headache, nausea, diarrhea, trouble sleeping,... tiredness, and anxiety. so much goes into who i am. hiv medicine is one part of it. ask your doctor about dovato-i did. >> right after this show, or in a commercial break check your e-mail. the pre-christmas e-mails are here and they're trying to capitalize from online-- or from in-person to online retail transactions. let's talk about what this meanings for discounts for you and your 401(k). mac mac macro advisors, mitch, appreciate you being here. it seems like the idea of cyber monday and black friday have combined and come about three weeks early. >> i think it's more than three weeks early. through october, 42% of the expected holiday shopping has taken place already. i think that it started really early. we've been locked at home with not a lot to do, leland. you mentioned the promotions coming. whether it's brick and mortar retailers or the new version of retailers online only, they're blasting deals at you. coupon specials and people are boun pouncing on them and people want a sense of normalcy. leland: retail therapy, perhaps. this is bloomberg, from axios, the american consumers is flush with cash after paying down debt. how does that square when we talk about how the coronavirus destroyed the american economy? >> i think there are two sides to it. the supply side which are crippled, you talked about, restaurants and bars, and the like. and on the demand side. if the people aren't consuming, they're saving. there are some people having a hard time paying the rent and making mortgage payments no question, about you those who have income coming in, they're saving and that's the big disconnect. which is why we need to open up the supply side of the economy to get the people back out there so can-- >> two ways to look at it. people who are saving because there's not as many dinners to go out to and not as many parties to buy wine for. people are saving from the way they consumed in 2019 and spent disposable incomes, but at some point does the gravy train run out if enough people lose their jobs and enough small businesses go out of business? >> yes, i would say that. there could be a whole -- the way i've referred to it, the economy has a wound and the question is whether or not that wound will heal. so, we find ourselves with five million people who are on the unemployment roles because their businesses are shuttered permanently and i worry about brick and mortar and retail business whether or not they open and stories about new york, stocking numbers, 30, 40% of the restaurants that may not never reopen. i think there's some permanent damage and the only way to do that is to try to keep the businesses afloat, whether through stimulus that the government can't seem to figure out or opening businesses. leland: there seems to be a bifurcation, the way that big restaurants and big stores are doing compared to mom and pop. thank you. >> police in wisconsin are looking are to a suspect following a shooting at a wisconsin mall. what they've learned about the shooting so far. that's next. thunk, turn the temperature down. turning down temperature, dad. ow. thunk, lock the doors. locking doors. thunk, dim the lights. dimming lights. 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[sfx: mnemonic] alicia: the rnc and the michigan republican party are asking the state election canvassers to delay certifying votes for two weeks. welcome to "america's news headquarters" from washington, i'm alicia acuna in denver. leland: i'm leland vittert in washington. this is just one day after president trump met with michigan lawmakers at the white house. mark meredith live on the north lawn of the white house and, mark, this is interesting especially considering those same michigan lawmakers said that they didn't really see anything wrong with the election results that should overturn the election results in the evidence and that they were going to proceed as planned. >> reporter: michigan certainly playing a more important role in the last 24 hours when it comes to what he feels were the election results, and he believes he should claim victory in this state. the michigan republican party asking for a two week delay of state certification because they want an audit of the votes in wayne county, the area that encompasses detroit. the republican party, again, just a request at this point, putting out a letter from the rnc chairwoman. it's a long one, i'll read you part of it. we encourage the board to grant the request and adjourn for 14 days to allow for a full, transparent audit of wayne county's 2020 election results. unclear what's going to happen next there. on friday the president had a chance to meet with michigan lawmakers, jo biden is ahead by -- joe biden is ahead by 154,000 votes. they go, quote: we have not yet been made aware of information that would change the outcome of the election in michigan, and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law expect normal process regarding michigan's electors just as we have said throughout this election. this is the statement that we heard from michigan lawmakerrers after they had a chance to meet with president trump late are yesterday indicating no change is coming as of right now. last night we also learned that donald trump jr. tested positive for coronavirus. we're told he is quarantining just to be safe. the president also tweeted out that his son is doing very well. we have not seen president trump on camera for ourselves at least today, he's at his golf club right now. he dud have a chance to meet with world leaders via video conference this morning for the g20 summit, normally done in person. it was being held virtually because of the pandemic. still waiting for a readout about how that meeting went, but you can imagine many world leaders continue to focus on the pandemic as president trump also focuses on the 2020 election results. leland: noteworthy you brought up john james, he's behind a little less than 100,000 votes to the democratic senator, president trump is behind about 150,000 votes at current last count. we'll keep an i eye on both of those races, the john james race, a new wrinkle in terms of him making this request rather than the president. mark, thank you very much. alicia: president-elect joe biden says he has made his decision for top cabinet decisions. hill true vaughn is in wilmington with more on who is in the mix for the top jobs. >> reporter: president-elect joe biden has reportedly settled on who he wants to be his secretary of state adding -- or filling two positions now in his cabinet that we're expecting to get formally announced into the next week. fox was told last week though who was on the short list for secretary of state. the hill reports that anthony blinken, who served as deputy national security adviser under president obama, is the front-runner for the post. but senator chris coons is also a contender who is a longtime biden friend, fellow delaware resident and has been actively engaged in the transition process. he was asked by fox this week if-biden's pick. if he was biden's pick. >> are you going to be the next secretary of state? >> you're talking to an engaged senator from delaware who's looking forward to the transition. >> reporter: treasury secretary, progressives allied with senator warren tell us they are betting on former fed chair janet yellen for the position. and on a call with reporters yesterday, transition officials said it will not be someone who is cozy with wall street. >> i think it's safe to say that he's not a fan of wall street's policies or an ad slow e candidate for, you know, a lot of the policies that some people would be in favor of. >> reporter: but senator bernie sanders is warning the biden team not to pass over progressives to fill out their administration, telling the ap it would be, quote, enormously insulting if biden skipped over progressive es but found spots for conservative democrats. bernie sanders has been openly campaigning for a position in biden's cab in the. but when -- cabinet. but when biden has been asked directly if there's a spot from him, he's refused to answer. and also sanders' democratic colleagues in the senate have also been silent on if they would support bernie sanders for a possible cabinet role. alicia? liver rush hillary vaughn with the update, thank you so much, appreciate it. leland: a big part of the calculus for president-elect joe biden over the coming months is going to hinge on what happens in georgia. where you not only have the dispute over the election that just happened, but you have a runoff election for two united states senate seats that could very possibly -- and likely will -- control and decide who controls the united states senate. with possibly vice president kamala harris being the tie-breaking vote depending on how things go in georgia. there's record amounts of money flowing into georgia for this senate race. already the ads are up and the opposition are research is out, and we can see right now hundreds if not thousands of pro-president trump protesters are out on the streets around the capitol. they are upset that the election was certified in georgia yesterday by the governor there. matt finn now on the ground in atlanta. hi, matt. >> reporter: leland, georgia has become the center of the political world, and it's going to be a jam-packed saturday. taking a look at the two runoff senate races here that are going to control the balance of power in the united states senate, georgia's two republican senators are now urging that they have become the final line of defense for republicans to stop democrats from completely controlling washington. democrat candidate jon ossoff a short while ago participated in a comfort and care harvest distribution here in atlanta, and yesterday vice president pence was here to campaign with republican senator david perdue. pence urged georgia voters that their two republican senators must hold the line to defend the republican majority in the senate. pence also campaigned with republican senator kelly loeffler. her opponent, reverend rafael war knock, is hosting a series of meet and greets today beginning in montezuma. and there are several competing protests here in georgia as you mentioned, leland, a stop the steal pro-trump rally and a. [laughter] -leaning anti-fascist group hosting a rally at atlanta's city hall. and looking at the presidential race, just yesterday georgia's republican governor certified the state's vote, biden the winner. however, georgia's governor says he's not satisfied with the state's election process. >> it's quite honestly hard to believe that during the holiday thousands of uncounted ballots were found weeks after a razor-thin outcome in a presidential election. this is simply unacceptable. i've heard directly from countless georgians they expect better, and they deserve better. >> reporter: and georgia's governor says his certification of the state's vote now paves the way for the president's campaign to request a recount here in georgia which it is allowed to do. the president's campaign has until tuesday the make that request, leland. leland: the president tweeting earlier that there was big news about georgia coming later today, so we will wait on that. matt finn in atlanta, back down there as those protests continue to grow, thank you. ♪ ♪ alicia: well, covid cases spike in communities across the country. local lawmakers are working to keep residents safe during the upcoming holiday season. we bring in el paso, texas, mayor and louisiana senator daines. mayor margo, i'd like to begin with you because there's a battle underway right now in your state over restrictions, and i would like folks to know what are the state of things in your city? >> well, we're hopeful, reasonably hopeful that we're starting to hit a plateau. if we compare our spike with what occurred in thely e yo grand valley -- rio grande valley, we're 85% hispanic, so we're exceptionally more vulnerable than other populations. i think the cdc said four times more vulnerable to hospitalization. but it took the rio grande valley 4-5 weeks just to hit their plateau. this is our fifth week, and we're starting to see -- while we announced this morning 1,074 positives, we actually had a reduction of 27 hospitalizations and a reduction of 5 in our icu. so, i mean, i'm hopeful that we're starting to get there, but i'm also very concerned about thanksgiving because we're a very family-oriented culture, community. alicia: and you've written a letter to your community with regard to thanksgiving and getting together and the pandemic. tell us a little bit about that. >> yeah. well, what we found when we did a deep dive in our contact tracing this past week from october the 10th -- excuse me, november the 10th-november the 16th, we found out that 55% of our positives based on the contact tracing data were coming from shopping at large retailers, what we call the big box retailers. and there is no control over those under ceasing essential businesses from a local standpoint. so i did a press conference on thursday talking about the need to only have one member of your family out doing the shopping in el paso. shopping is a family vent. multiple generations of people go out. so we're trying to do that. and i've already restricted restaurants and bars. we don't have bars open, restaurant/bars, to close at 9 p.m., and i did that five weeks ago. we're trying to get our arms around where the spikes are coming and to control our own personal if behavior. alicia: and, representative james, your statement is seeing an increase -- state is seeing an increase in cases as so many others. tell me, give us a sense of how things are in louisiana at this time especially as we head toward thanksgiving. >> yeah. i share the mayor's concerns. last friday we saw 3500 new cases, and that is the largest single-day increase since the start of the pandemic. i shower his concerns as we -- i share his concerns as we go into this holiday weekend. and what we've done, we continue to urge residents, you know, to have a non-traditional thanksgiving, you know? a non-traditional thanksgiving will keep those family members safe and keep those family members alive to celebrate thanksgiving next year. you know, we're also concerned with the impact to our local businesses. my mayor here, she talks about the whole community response and recognizing that the health of our residents and the success of our businesses are not mutually exclusive. we have to continue to pump our resources there. and i know in el paso, i know that they're doing the best that they can. my biggest concern is that our local governments are not going to be able to withstand the fiscal impact if we have to shut back down again. alicia: and, representative james, you know of which you speak. folks should know that you had a pretty tough battle with covid that took you to a pretty dark place. when you're talking about restrictions and guidelines, you're coming from a place that a lot of people may not understand. can you explain that? >> i'll tell you, i spent five days in the hospital and didn't know if you would see my little girl again. and as i see people out and celebrating, i would hate to see anybody go through the experience that i went through, what it did to my family, what it did to my friends. and i will tell you that we have to continue to take the coronavirus serious. we know that we're seeing spikes all across the country, and i would just continue to urge people, you know, have a zoom thanksgiving so, hopefully, we can enjoy e a christmas holiday because i know that here we're talking about what our hospital capacity looks like. and, unfortunately, the numbers start to climb, we're going to continue to have family members lost. and for me personally, i would just, you know, very much so beg of you to keep yourself and your family safe -- alicia: absolutely. >> practice all the guidelines and social distancing that we've been talking about. alicia: thank you so much, is gentlemen. we'll be thinking of you and your communities and those around the country trying to celebrate but also remain cautious. have a good one. >> thank you. leland: illegal immigrants continue to surge across the southern border. u.s. customs and border patrol reports more than 69,000 arrests last month, the huest october number -- highest october number in 15 years. lucas tomlinson with the details on where they're coming from and the efforts to stop them. >> reporter: hi, leland. another sign of the global economic devastation, motivating migrants to make the dangerous journey north. 69,000 arrests and detentions on the southern border with mexico last month, a 21% spike compared to september and the highest october since 2005 according to u.s. customs and board or protection. border protection. >> they've been this way for decades and decades. first and foremost is economics. anywhere we see worsening economic conditions, illegal immigration follows. and right now because of covid-19 that's exactly what we're seeing. not just in mexico, but treal western hemisphere. >> twitter briefly suspended the cbd commissioner's account last month for violating its, quote, hateful conduct policy after he tweeted about the border wall. cbp troops say their work on the border is crucial to prevent the spread of the coronavirus in the united states, at least one-third of those detained each month are e peat offenders -- repeat offenders. biden said it was criminal the trump administration reportedly lost track of more than 500 parents and children after they were detained and separated at the border. on his web site, joe biden calls the president's views misguided. quote: his obsession with building a wall does nothing to address security challenges while costing taxpayers billions of dollars. lawsuit last month dhs -- late last month dhs celebrated the construction of nearly 400 new miles of border along the southern boundary. leland? leland: lucas tomlinson here in d.c. the commission or's twitter account is unlocked, lucas, thank you. alicia? alicia: leland, there is controversy over a rare honor for a politician. why some are not happy about governor andrew cuomo getting an emmy award. ♪ zes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? really? i didn't-- aah! ok. i'm on vibrate. aaah! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ handling of folks in older, in facilities for the elderly, excuse me. isn't there -- i mean, there's been plenty of criticism for him. is this really the time for an award? >> well, will the9 me put it this way, andrew cuomo's early briefings, they were very good. he was blunt, he was straightforward, he was sometimes witty, and he took responsibility. maybe his brother, chris cuomo at cnn, who was in one of those briefings will be a little gel out of his brother's emmy. -- jealous. but the problem is, governor cuomo has taken a whole lot of criticism which he disputes over his handling of the state's nursing homes. more than 6,000 covid-positive patients were let into these nursing home facilities from hospitals under his administration's policy, and the state health d. says 6,800, more than that, actually, have died in nursing homes and adult care facilities. cuomo's own attorney general says that the administration's blocking the release of more precise figures, so so the record is very mixed. alicia: i guess what makes it such a head-scratcher here is that the coverage of the pandemic is something that is playing out on television, but it's a reflexion of actual tragedy -- reflection of actual tragedy and very real pain. why is the academy acting like dealing with a health care crisis is a television show? >> yeah, i new you put your finger on it. in fact, in giving the award, they said cuomofectivelyed television shows with plot lines, but the award implies he did a great job battling covid, and the record is far more complicated and mixed. he dud lots of interviews, he just published a book, but the irony is just the other day he got plenty of bad press for lashing out at reporters who basically asked him will you intervene to close new york city's schools tomorrow. it turned out mayor de blasio did that on his own, and cuomo gave them a televised tongue lashing. he can be a very aggressive politician. he says he's flat ored by this award, but governing is hard. it's harder than just being good on television, and that's why i think this is, to say the least, controversial. alicia: howie, thank you so much. and tomorrow we should note you will be talking to geraldo rivera on media was about his thoughts on the election and his conversation with president trump, that's tomorrow at 11 eastern. leland: the cotowner of black lives matter is turning up the heat on the biden transition, saying in an op-ed that they want democrats to embrace a bill described as a road map for prison abolition. not just reform, abolition. democratic missouri congressman emmanuel cleaver, biden's surrogate, also a member of the house homeland security committee joining us live. appreciate you taking the time, we had some technical difficulties, we appreciate you work on this. is this kind of what's happening right now with the biden transition, that you've got a pretty hard core group on the left trying to cash in the chips on the left and the biden transition trying to stay relatively centered? >> well, yes. anytime there is a transition for any administration, there are generally going to be some kind of internal battles to see who is, in fact, controlling the soul of that administration. and so it's not surprising that there are people who would be further to the left than, say, me or others who would want to have things going their way. leland: yeah. >> and they're going to have to compete with people who, i think, were create clue important to the biden victory as were they. and i know the vice president, i started out with his when we were getting crowds of 25 and 30 people in the snow-covered towns of iowa. and this is not some way out whacko liberal. leland: it's an interesting point that you make, sir, and you point out correctly that you have been with the vice president, now the president-elect, since the very beginning and a vocal and arctic lawsuit advocate for him and for a season trust democratic policy. this is -- centric democratic policy. this is reporting on what the cofounder has written in an op-ed. in addition to the breathe act, in addition to essentially trying to be a path to abolishing the police, it would create a commission to give voting rights to undocumented imp grants, decriminalize all drug offenses, end cooperation with immigration authorities, universal a basic income among other sweeping changes. with these kinds of demands especially if you have a divided congress come january, how difficult does that make for people like yourself in the center to get things done? >> well, i think at thed end of the day there will be individuals in the democratic caucus and, hopefully, in the republican conference who become sick and tired of doing damage to the american public by failing to get critically important legislation through such as stimulus relief for individuals who are suffering right now. leland: yeah. >> so make no mistake, people are going to try to lobby the vice president as they tried to president trump and president bush and obama and everybody else. leland: let me ask you this way, we've seen how partisan washington can be over the past four years. why is is there reason to hope that people are willing to at least give the other side a little bit in the hope of some kind of compromise, because compromise seems to now be a dirty word here. why are you all of a sudden hopeful now that that's going to be found? >> well, for a lot of people compromise means capitulation. it does not mean that with me. but here's the thing i think very encouraging for the american public. there are republicans and democrats alike who have been working together over the last couple of years as it relates to current administration and as it relates to trying to come up with some kind of a joint way which they could deal with things going on with the trump administration. and for the most part, people probably thought that those individuals could not work together. but they have and we have. and we understand that when this is all over, the repalins who were in the lincoln project and everything else, who were conservative, they're going to be in criticism of the biden policies -- some of them, i hope, if not all. but i just think we have a chance here. we don't -- listen, i'm not some crazy alarmist, but i am absolutely concerned that if we don't begin to work together, we are actually trespassing on very dangerous ground because i think this country can be torn apart. i know most people --lee you've been a longtime advocate, sir, for being willing to talk to the other side, and we always appreciate you coming on and doing that here, sir. good to see you as always. >> good to be with you. leland: thank you. alicia? 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[sfx: mnemonic] perhaps the last couple of years is the police do the very best to create as large of a distance and defensible space between the two groups that they possibly can, and that's what is happening here. a physical barrier of -- when they do meet, as we saw here in washington last week and in the past, it can be a quite combustible situation. those are department of corrections riot police. it would appear as though we saw some folks in fatigues just forward of where our camera is. you can see one of the trump 2020 vendors there with their tent, and this is the counter-protesters on the other side. this standoff now 90 minutes into the pro-trump rally at the georgia state capitol. alicia acuna is with me watching from denver. and as you watch this, alicia, it's sobering. alicia: right. and we did see this, leland, as you know, you and i were in different locations on the day of election and the days following, and what we saw -- i was in arizona, for example -- was the same type of activity here. we didn't necessarily have the anti-trump protesters like we're seeing come out right now that the authorities there are trying to keep at bay from the pro-trump group. but what we did see and we're continuing to see is this very real frustration of folks who feel like they voted for this president. this president speaks for them, and now they feel like their voice is being ignored. there are many in these crowds here and beyond who feel that the president of the united states who currently holds this office will continue to be the president for the next four years. and say what you will about his twitter account and the way that he is fanning the frame flames of this fraud idea that has been debunked in many ways, they mean it. we're talking about tens of millions of people here who are incredibly agitated and frustrated, and they're taking to the streets in ways that we have seen them do over the past few weeks. because to them, this wasn't right. leland: we're looking past sort of -- our camera's moved sort of into the interior of where the police and the corrections officers have lewined things up to -- lined things up to keep these two crowds separated. at least in my experience out in these crowds, the violence has come from the anti-trump supporters, not from the pro-trump side of things. and we've seen the pro-trump group rally there at the georgia state capitol now for the past 90 minutes or so with their flags mostly in hats, worth masks on -- without masks on as we can see most of the folks in that group. based on their shields and their gas masks and helmets, one can garner the opinion on their own or the conclusion on their own of what the folks who would call themselves the anti-fascist or counter-protesters are there to do and what they come ready for. as we look now, this is one of beautiful. but support the leg! when i started cobra kai, the lack of control over my business made me a little intense. but now i practice a different philosophy. quickbooks helps me get paid, manage cash flow, and run payroll. and now i'm back on top... with koala kai. hey! more mercy. save over 30 hours a month with intuit quickbooks. the easy way to a happier business. ♪ ♪ leland: there's no lockdown to speak of in the state of missouri, although the is state of emergency there has been extended throughout next march to fight the coronavirus continued case rise. the governor says everything's more of a guideline than a requirement these days. joining us now, the voice of st. louis himself, charlie brennan. mike parson seemed to be taking a very different playbook than a lot of his fellow especially liberal governors. >> yeah, that's right, leland. he has pretty much had a las say fair attitude -- has say fair attitude. this past week starting tuesday, st. louis county closed all restaurants for indoor dining. what's interesting here is some restaurants are openly defying that order and staying hope and also simultaneously pursuing their claims in court. leland: we heard about this in philadelphia as well, we had an attorney who's representing a bunch of philadelphia restaurants that are suing the city there, sort of the same idea, saying this isn't based in science, you're allowing wawas and gas stations and quick marts to stay open, how do you prove restaurants are the real problem here? what happens to these restaurants defying the orders, and perhaps more importantly e if they're staying open, they must be getting customers. >> yes, they are, and the parking lots are full of them at one of them, even the sheriff of jefferson county, a fellow by the name of dave marshak, showed up to dine in the restaurant during a period when it was -- leland: just so i understand, you've got the sheriff in one county coming the dine in a restaurant that is open in defiance of orders by the state, by the county government of another county, all in the same state. where is the county government in this? are they going to all of a sudden send in their own miss force to shut these restaurants down, or do they feel like they don't have the public support to do that? >> good question. the county prosecutor, leslie bell, has said that his office hasn't is received new e complaints about this yet -- leland: wow. [laughter] >> and the health department has said it doesn't have the staff to really enforce this and the thousands of restaurants that are in st. louis county. but i would point out, of course, everybody's concerned about the restaurants, leland, because this could be devastating to them. they could be going out of business soon, some already have. but at the same time, when you're dining at a restaurant, it's an enclosed atmosphere, you take off the mask and those aerosol droplets can possibly be flying around. i hate to go wobbly on you, but i can see both sides of the story. lee you taught me how to do that about 20 years ago when you were my first boss. finish this is the governor talking about why he won't enforce or put in place a statewide mask mandate. take a listen. >> as many people out there would like to say it's government's responsibility, it's not. it's our responsibility as citizens of this great state to take it upon ourselves to do the right thing. leland: he just won reelection with a walkoff grand slam, if you will, and i'm wondering so much of his opponent's campaign was about the coronavirus and about parsons' response to coronavirus. it seems as though the people of missouri are standing with him. >> oh, there's no doubt. and nicole galloway, the astronaut auditor, was a formidable candidate, and she lost by about 7 points. she was -- 17 points. she was wearing a mask a lot, he was not. the problem now is that in places like st. louis and kansas city, the hospitals are saying -- in fact, in kansas city they are doing this, they're turning away patients because they have too many people in the ucu already -- icu already, and in st. louis hospital officials, leland, have said they've likely to do the same thing soon. leland: i wonder what your callers are saying about this. >> oh, well, you know, they're mixed like the rest of the country, you know? some believe everyone should be wearing a mask even while driving or while sleeping. you know, you get that extreme. ing and then you get the other extreme where people, number one, believe it's personal choice, and they also wonder about the efficacy of a mask. so, and then you have in the middle, people are pretty reasonable. i think most people wear a mask when they're near others, they try to socially distance, but -- leland: anybody who thinks they're in the middle thinks they're reasonable but e definition. [laughter] the question i have though is where does this go with st. louis heading into winter? if when you have restaurants openly defying city and county orders, it seems as though you've lost control of the situation. >> yeah, that's a fair assessment, lee land. the most interesting -- leland. the most interesting case, i think, is the cheshire inn which straddles both st. louis city which doesn't have a ban on une door dining and st. louis county which does. so they're got one restaurant, the fox and hound in the county, and it's closed, on the same piece of property they have ba is so, a restaurant that is open. leland: i think that was a tavern one time, they'd move the tables depending on which state law enforcement showed up. [laughter] unbelievable. >> that's exactly it. leland: we appreciate the visualization and fascinating. the sheriff shows up at a closed restaurant to have dinner rather than shut 'em down. thank you, sir or, good to see you. >> thanks, leland. great to talk with you. alicia: with now restrictions around the country, some people may be spending thanksgiving alone, but one d.c. area restaurant is making sure they will have a good meal. details next. ♪, or this is us talking tax-smart investing, managing risk, and all the ways schwab can help me invest. this is andy reminding me how i can keep my investing costs low and that there's no fee to work with him. here's me learning about schwab's satisfaction guarantee. accountability, i like it. so, yeah. andy and i made a good plan. find your own andy at schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. it's time you make the rules. so join the 2 million people who have switched to xfinity mobile. you can choose from the latest phones or bring your own device and choose the amount of data that's right for you to save even more. and you'll get 5g at no extra cost. all on the most reliable network. so choose a data option that's right for you. get 5g included and save up to $400 dollars a year on the network rated #1 in customer satisfaction. it's your wireless. your rules. only with xfinity mobile. ♪ alicia: as local officials around the country urge their residents not to gather for thanksgiving, many older americans will be left to spend the holiday alone. one d.c. area restaurant owner is delivering free meals to them. joining us now is co-owner of the restaurant, mark buicker. thank you so much for being here today. >> alicia, thanks for having me, i really appreciate it. alicia: we need good news in such a big way, and what your restaurants are doing, providing such a wonderful service as with. can you tell us what it is that you're doing? >> i mean, we, you know, i'm in the happiness business. me and my business partners, we provide happiness all year long. people come out to restaurants and celebrate births, graduations, anniversaries, weddings, and this is a really hard time. i mean, we're trying to figure out a way to find thanks and find some happiness in an otherwise uncertain time. and one of the areas that we need to worry about are our elderrers. they can't share thanksgiving with their families this year, they're told not to kong regate, you know -- congregate, you know, or there's one meal that's really hard to make for one person, and that's thanksgiving. so we decided that we were going to make thanksgiving for anyone over the age of 70 in the d.c., maryland, virginia area, and we'll deliver it to their address. we put a tweet out, expected a couple hundred responses, we got thousands. expect -- and the stories are heart-wrenching. we've got people that are responding to us that are simply saying i haven't eaten -- alicia: wow. >> i haven't eaten, i'm not going to be with my family, my husband just died, i don't know how to cook, please help me, and we're going to get them all dinner. we're going to start delivering on tuesday to everybody. and this is all part of something west virginia always done every year for thanksgiving, and we have a turkey fry that we cook people's turkey for free. a lot of people give donated you are the -- get donated turkey and don't have the ability to cook them. so for the last 12 years, they've brought them to us, we've cooked them. our first big concern this year is how are we going to do that because we can't gather in a restaurant? last year we did over 300 turkeys. this year we called our friends at the washington nationals, bless them, we're their partner and said, we need help, they said, let's go. so were going to do our turkey fry at the park for thousands of people on thanksgiving because they need this stuff done, and no one's helping. alicia: right. i love that. >> everyone's overlooking this group. so we're here for them. alicia: well,ing there's so much there with regard to the frying of the turkeys, i love a fried turkey. i'm terrified to actually pull it off myself. exactly, i wish i could. also the pictures we were showing just a moment ago, that was what you did for mother's day, correct? >> yes. alicia: you just now have this overwhelming response. and you really hit on a point that i think is so important, especially because thanksgiving is a time when a lot of folks who are older americans really count on that one holiday to have that meal with their families. and this is such an important moment for them to be able to at least enjoy the flavors and a friendly face. >> you know, we try to get them together, but we're going to give this many the flavors, they'll be on zoom, facetime. and the heart-wrenching part of this, this is an older population. they are scared to death to leave their houses. alicia: right. >> they don't drive, they can't go to the food banks, and they're stuck at home. ing and they're embarrassed to tell their kids they're hungry because they don't want their kids to worry. it's the worst of all of this coming together with one part of our population. so we're doing the best we can, and i'm hoping other restaurants around the country -- by the way -- copycat this and reach out. the restaurant business has been hit really hard -- alicia: oh, i know. and, you know, i hope folks are out there getting inspired. thank you so much for your time, really appreciate it. >> thank you. stay healthy. leaderboard liver thank you.lee you know, we've said the worst of times bring out the best in america, and that's proof right there. it's been a great two hours. see you tomorrow. 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