30 million without that benefit at least for now. mark meredith is live at the white house with the latest on where the negotiation goes from here. >> reporter: democrats say the enhanced unemployment benefits impact the majority of americans that have been struggling since march. the white house appears morey gear to extend the benefits but it's unclear for how long and how much money that may be the case. the negotiations, they are still ongoing. we heard from white house chief of staff mark meadows who spoke right after wrapping up the rare saturday negotiation session. >> we're a long ways apart. i don't want to suggest that a deal is imminent because it is not. but like with any deal, as you make progress, i think it's important to recognize that you're making progress. and not set an unrealistic expectation that we're just a few items away. because there's still substantial differences. >> reporter: democrats also called today's meeting productive but say they too remain far from a firm deal. congressional and white house staff are expected to meet again tomorrow and then the major players will be back on monday. house speaker nancy pelosi says the case for more economic aid really should be easy to spot. >> millions of people are food insecure in our country. millions are on the verge of eviction. people need resources in order to meet the needs of their families. so it's very important for, as we come to -- this is not a usual discussion. >> reporter: we've been watching twitter all afternoon to see if the president will weigh in on these latest negotiations. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was not in the room for the discussions. he is being kept in the loop. the president's re-election campaign is expected to relaunch tv ads start on monday. it's unclear which states the campaign will target. election day is only 94 days away, after all, and we're waiting to see what the campaign schedule is going to look like. the convention changes, there have been so many questions about what will between now and november will look like. the president is teasing a major healthcare plan but no details from the white house. eric: we'll have more on what majority leader mcconnell is thinking about later on in the newscast. arthel. arthel: eric, hurricane isaias is battering the bahamas with strong wind and heavy rain. the category 1 storm is expected to hit florida later today before making its way up the east coast. rick leventhal is live in fort lauderdale, florida where residents are bracing for impact. >> reporter: it's been dicey this afternoon. we've had heavy rainstorms come through here. a squall descren. drenched us out here. the wind has picked up. the surf is getting really rough. there's a couple surfers, these guys were out here for a while waiting and now they're going in, even though the red flags are flying and the no swim warnings have been posted, not just here in fort lauderdale where a hurricane watch is in effect, but all the way up the coast where hurricane warnings and watches stretch all the way to jacksonville beach. it is just a category 1 storm, it lost a bit of strength, down to 75 miles an hour, moving to the northwest about 12 miles an hour many you can see a lot of shutters have been closed, hurricane shutters, trees starting to bend in the wind a bit. the storm isin is expected to st up the coast, past the carolinas to new york and beyond. it did damage in turks and caicos, puerto rico and bahamas, knocked down power lines and flooded streets and low lying areas that were hard hit by dorian one year ago. in florida, the same story where homeowners and business owners have been boarding up and stocking up on supplies in this very strange and unusual time with the coronavirus and now a hurricane threatening south florida. arthel: definitely clearly a lot of wind already for this cat 1 storm. rick leventhal there in fort lauderdale, florida. thank you, rick. we'll check back with you later. eric. eric: where wil will isaias hid where will it go? adam klotz is following this and has the latest. >> hey, eric. we're beginning to see things as we saw across portions of southern florida intensify a little bit. the heart of the storm is spinning over the bahamas. you're seeing some of the heaviest activity on the backside of this system. we'll get more rounds, farther to the north and the west the next couple hours. the forecast model takes you from this evening into sunday night, monday morning. that's the time from right now into monday morning, skirting up the coast, perhaps making landfall. it's going to be very close, whether or not this does, likely a better chance of making landfall in the carolinas. i'm going to show you that in a moment. as we see this tracking to the north, what you're going to notice is the extreme winds, mostly staying offshore, getting tropical storm winds, maybe hurricane force winds right there in central florida. outside of that, this is going to be a rain maker primarily, especially the farther north you go. here's the forecast track, winds 75 to 80 miles an hour, that's going to be pretty consistent up the coast. and then maybe getting a little closer to an actual landfall, let me take you farther north. by the time you get into monday and tuesday, that's when you get this closer path into the carolinas, that could be a landfall, you get that close to land, typically these things start to weaken a bit. at that point we're talking about a tropical storm. it continues the march up the east coast and you're looking at boston, new york city, washington, d.c., all areas that are going to see tropical storm type rain, possibly some winds, 30 to 40 miles an hour. i think as it heads farther north it becomes more of a rain maker. a couple inches across florida and if it makes landfall we're talking about between 4 to 6 inches of rain, 8 inches of rain, that's going to be going into wednesday, eric. so we're talking about south florida tonight. but all the way into tuesday and wednesday, this is going to be a system we have to pay attention to. eric: sounds like a wet week for millions of folks this next week. adam, thank you. arthel. arthel: it's not only hurricane season, it's shark season. and the sharks are making sure we know it. sightings are up on the east coast from maryland to maine, in new york at least 12 sightings this week along the south shore of long island, prompting many beaches to close or restrict swimming. aishah hasnie has more, she's live in new york city. hi, aishah. >> reporter: hi, arthel. the sharks are not going anywhere any time soon. multiple long island beaches have to be closed for a few hours today, closed to swimming, because of yet another shark sighting. this one today a lifeguard spotted just off the coast of long island's nassau county. officials are asking beach-goers now to only go knee-deep into the water as the area's shark patrol, made up of helicopters, boats and jet skis, police and liflifeguards, they are keepinga close lookout. this brings a total to 13 shark sightings along the south shore of long island, several more from maryland all the way up to maine. that state as you know saw it's very first deadly attack at the start of this week by a great white shark which by the way is still out there in the water. some of these sightings are believed to be of the dangerous bull sharks, the massive 8-foot bull shark caught by college buddies two weeks ago. here's the question why are there so many sightings all of a sudden. experts say the water is warm, the seal population is exploding and the white shark population is recovering. county officials say there is no reason to panic. >> what i'm telling everyone, this is not a reason to freak out. we're going to let everyone know, we're having our police department actually -- we have an aviation unit with the choppers and we have the marine bureau with the boats. we're monitoring that multiple times a day. if we see anything suspicious, lurking towards the shore, we're going to let everybody know. >> reporter: now, arthel, here is some perspective to keep in mind. so far this year, there have been 13 shark attacks in the united states. compare that to 28 attacks for the same period last year. experts say the best thing you can do is don't wear a black wet suit out there. don't wear anything shiny. that attracts sharks. also, keep following the beach rules as we saw today, those can change any minute. arthel. arthel: good words to follow, aishah hasnie in new york city. thanks, aishah. eric. eric: arthel, the nassau county executive said don't freak out when you mention sharks, but you mention the word shark in summer, that's easy to be scared. let's bring in shark expert from the university of florida in jacksonville. professor, you're the director of the shark biology program there. can you put this in context, why there are more shark sightings now. seems this is going on the past few summers. >> i've been working on sharks for 30 years now. when i first broke into the field, we were dealing with significant declines in shark populations. the sharks were actually reduced in number as a result of over-fishing. to probably only about 70 to 80% of what they used to be. so at that time, we, working with the federal government, have enacted a number of different management plans for sharks. and they've been kind of a success story. the sharks have rebounded. they're nowhere near where they used to be. when you hear us say that the shark populations are growing, you have to keep in mind that we're talking about they used to be here, then they were down here and now they're maybe up here. they're rebuilding. and because of that, we are going to start to see a larger number of animals in the water. of course, we've got more eyes looking as well. so i do have to echo my colleagues when they say it's not exactly a reason to freak out. but the sharks are rebuilding and the populations are growing. eric: is that because of the 2011 shark conservation act and the laws that have limited i guess hunting and fishing of sharks and other sea animals? >> well, we've got a lot to unpack. the first really significant fish remanagement plan was enacted in 1993. that reduced the take of shark fins in the commercial fisheries. a lot of sharks were being used for the asian fin market. we enacted a number of regulations to protect prohibited species as the white shark is one of the prohibited species, so we're not able to land those animals at all in commercial fisheries. we've had the prohibited species like the white sharks that increased over time. a lot of that increase in the northeast also those do with the fact that for a food source, the seal population has grown considerably as a result of separate legislation, in particular the marine protect act. eric: that's very important because we heard in the earlier report, don't wear a black suit and tragically julie holowok, a 62-year-old new york fashion designer, who was killed by what they now say is a great white shark off bailey island, 20 yards out, while she was in a black wet suit. do you think that that white -- great white mistook her for a seal? >> i believe so. the white sharks have grown in number, particularly we always of course hear about cape cod as that seal population has grown, research is being done to try to estimate number of white sharks there but we do know that the white sharks have been perhaps infrequent but regular visitors to the gulf of maine. there are seal populations that are growing there. there's been some suggestion that as the shark population has grown there's greater competition for food near cape comcapecod and sew we've seen as move out and to pursue maybe other opportunities to target seals and i do think that that particular incident was probably likely due to mistaken identity. eric: so bottom line, quickly, what's your advice to swimmers, for folks going out to the beach this summer? >> my advice is to keep in mind that the ocean is the shark's world. and unfortunately, whenever we go into the ocean of course we take a risk. i realize that that is -- i work on sharks. and that is -- i'm happy to see the population rebuild. it's really, again, a conservation success story but we do have to keep in mind that there is risk to bathers when they're in the water, particularly in areas where some of these populations may be growing. so certainly the typical advice of not swimming out too far, not swimming separate, in this case it was pretty close to shore, not swimming for example where there are known populations that attract some of the animals. but know in the long run these things are still very rare and it's very hard to kind of predict the unpredictable, really. eric: yeah. well, you know, i'm not going in other than my ankles this summer. forget it. i'm staying in -- i'm doing the pool or the bathtub. i mean, it's -- it really 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mask. a negative test does not mean that you won't be positive tomorrow. a negative test does not substitute for avoiding crowds or wearing a mask or protecting the vulnerable with your actions. arthel: there is a grim milestone for california, now the first state to surpass half a million coronavirus cases. this despite its early success in slowing the spread. health officials there now dealing with a shortage in testing supplies and a smaller testing task force. the golden state so far reporting more than 9,000 deaths. joining me now is dr. ann remion a department of epidemiology professor. before we get to california, i want to get your reaction to the remarks about testing and how testing -- we can't test our way out of this, it's up to personal responsibility. your reaction to that. >> arthel, that's a very good point. you know, we need a multipronged approach. we're not going to be able to test our way out of this. we're not going to be able to get a vaccine as our way out of this. we don't have therapeutic as our way out of this. what we do have is the ability to have every individual do their part right now, as an american, to wear a mask, to social distance, to use hand hygiene because we just don't have enough tests available for everybody to be able to get tested right now. there are shortages, the lines are everywhere. we just don't have it there. so we're not going to be able to test ourselves out of this pandemic but if every american does what they're supposed to do, does what they need to do for the united states we will make a very dig difference. arthel: let's get specific about california. where did california go wrong and can they stop the current rapid spread? >> you know, it's never too late. so, yes, of course we can do what we need to do to be able to get back on track. we opened up too soon. we underestimated the virus. we really needed to go much slower than we have. you know, we have -- we should be learning from every other country in the world that has been able to get in front of this virus and what they did was they were very deliberate about how they reopened and they opened up very slowly and are willing to shut back down when they see increases in cases. we have been very, very loathe to do that and it's created a big issue for everyone. we're going to continue to see spikes until we start really rolling back and now is the time. our kids, we need to get them back to school. we want to get the economy back on track. the way we can do that is by sacrificing now, for greater pain later. arthel: regarding california, in conjunction with the private industry, the governor, gavin newsom, he added over 100 new test sites in three weeks, implemented a widespread testing infrastructure, partnered with private labs to fill a shortage of test supplies in california. why nationwide this a shortage or tests? >> testing is not just about getting a swab and putting it on a testing platform. there are reagents. the chemicals that you need to be able to make those tests work. the swabs in and of themselves are difficult to obtain. we've had shortages in all of the supplies around testing. and then the labs don't have enough capacity to be able to do all of this themselves. there's not enough laboratories. every laboratory is overwhelmed with testing right now. it's not as simple as saying we need to test people, line them up, let's get them going. >>.arthel: the director of the o'neil university, the head of the world health organization's collaborating center on national and global health laws, listen to what he says. he says, quote, california is far from out of the water. it's probable that the worst is yet to come. so talk about personal responsibility, doctor, again, do the folks in california have a false sense of security, because the weather is so nice, things are more spread out compared to new york city. how do you sound the alarms? >> the way we sound the alarms to californians, the way we sound the alarms to everybody. nobody should be kicking back and thinking that we're out of the woods because we are not. i know, i know we all are exhausted. we all want to be able to get back to normal. but we have never been more dependent upon each other than we are right now. everybody needs to wear a mask. everybody needs to social distance. everybody needs to avoid crowds. all these things that dr. fauci was mentioning the other day, these are the blunt public health measures. there's no magic pill right now. we don't have it. we're not going to have vaccines available to us for a while. everybody can do their part to reduce the death and disease and the impact on everybody. we want -- if we want our kids back in school, if we want to reopen the economy, we all need to do the hard work. california is a perfect example of it. but it's not just california, it's every state. our way out of this is through it. and through it meaning through it with all of these kind of blunt public health measures which don't seem fancy and exciting but they're real. and i think that all of this discussion of should i wear a mask, should i not wear a mask, does it infringe, does it not, you know, this is just a public health measure. that's all it is. all you're doing is your part to stop the spread of disease to other people. we dealt with this with smoking, we dealt with it to texting with cell phones. if you're distracted you could kill somebody. it's a matter of doing what you need to do to protect everybody else around you. the virus is here. it's everywhere. and the only way to be able to reopen our economy and to get our schools back online is to push the rate of viral transmission as low as we possibly can. there's no secret to the dynamics of viral transmission. it's just straightforward. so everybody needs to do their part. arthel: well, i mean, you couldn't have put it better and i hope that whoever is listening to us right now hears your words of wisdom, heeds your advice because you're right, the only way through it as you say is to go through it and we have to go through it together and look out for each other by masking up and stop politicizing it. it's about life or death, right? >> you are absolutely right, arthel. arthel: yeah, yeah. well, listen, thank you. really nice to talk to you. i look forward to talking to you again. thank you. >> my pleasure. arthel: take care. eric. eric: thanks, arthel and doctor. it's not the sunshine state today, the wind is really whipping up in parts of the florida coast as hurricane isaias is moving closer and closer. straight ahead, we're live on one of the florida beach as residents are getting ready for it to hit. we made usaa insurance for veterans like liz and mike. an army family who is always at the ready. so when they got a little surprise... two!? ...they didn't panic. they got a bigger car for their soon-to-be-bigger family. after shopping around for insurance, they called usaa - who helped find the right 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>> yeah. no, they don't. it is in part, eric, a philosophical difference between the republicans and democrats over how much money should be given to those who are unemployed. some of this is also politics. it's really about sort of what and how much. so the republicans are saying, look, if you give the $600, it's a disincentive for people to go back to work. there was a university of chicago study that found that 68% of the people who are receiving the benefits were receiving more than they would have received had they continued working. so the republicans are saying that's too much. and they're saying let's cut it to $200 and aim to have essentially 70% of the person's paycheck coming to them through the combined unemployment benefits. the democrats are saying no, that's not enough. we are in a very special crisis here that's unprecedented. we need this to stil stimulate e economy. not only do we need this, we need to keep the $600 additional premium, we need a lot more. we need a $3 trillion package. the republicans are saying you know, look, getting up to a trillion will be enough, not 3 trillion. eric: there's one other thing they're talking about, that is a corporate liability that speaker mcconnell has put that as a red line that there has to be, according to the senate legislation, a carve-out for corporations not to be sued if the workers get coronavirus. supporters say that protects corporations. critics say it forces people back to their jobs and lets corporations skirt any responsibility. let's take a look at what mr. meadows and the treasury secretary said about that. >> it's a red line and he's the one that establishes what goes before his senate colleagues and he's made it very clear that liability protection will be in any bill that gets passed and we support that decision. >> they've made clear, there's clearly a desire on their part to do an entire package. we've made clear that we are willing to deal with the short-term issues and pass something quickly and come back to the larger issues. so we're at an impass on that. eric: that's interesting, if you pars mnuchin's words saying we're clear on that but let's deal with something like that separately. can they do that if mcconnell -- or is that just a negotiating tactic? >> i think it's a negotiating tactic or it's a negotiation, something that mnuchin would like to do, pass what they're calling a skinny bill, some provisions. the democrats are saying wait a second, some provision, an extension of that, what we need is a bigger package. the liability protections are very controversial. this would protect companies, schools, from getting sued if they are found to have allowed a situation which people got infected, so the white house is in this awkward position of saying we should get back to work, you should get into the schools but also wanting to protect those institutions from the very likely infection that people would experience in those environments. like the president calling for his rallies like the one in tulsa but asking people to sign a waiver that would forego liability if they were to catch the virus there. so these are very controversial issues. and the reason that the democrats don't want a skinny bill is that they want much more. they want additional funding to the states and to schools, to deal with all sorts of knock-on effects of the coronavirus. huge spending that they've had to undertake because they've been contending with it, the federal government doesn't have a national plan dealing with it. individual states have. democrats say they need additional funding for that. this is going to be a long, drawn-out negotiation and, eric, the issue is that unemployment applications are rising. more people are seeking unemployment benefits and protection and help because they don't have work. the economy, the economic numbers came out the second quarter of this year was an extraordinary drop in economic activity. so both sides want there to be some kind of program in place to stimulate the economy and to protect workers. the republicans say it could be smaller one, the democrats want a larger one. not a very unusual difference in philosophical approach, i think. eric: 20 sec, what do you -- 20 seconds, what do you expect they will agree on? >> they'll probably agree on extended worker benefits, maybe not at 600, maybe something a little lower than that. some kind of liability protection because mcconnell has drawn that red line. but the additional funding to states and localities, that's going to be a very hard one for the democrats to win out of the republican senate. eric: john, we'll follow it through the weekend. of course, see what happens and see what they achieve next week. john, thank you. arthel: republicans joining democrats to slam president trump's decision to pull thousands of u.s. troops out of germany. why the president is doing it and what it could mean for our allies and our enemies. general jack keane weighs in next. as a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique. that's why i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ some companies still have hr stuck between employeesentering data.a. changing data. more and more sensitive, personal data. and it doesn't just drag hr down. it drags the entire business down -- with inefficiency, errors and waste. it's ridiculous. so ridiculous. with paycom, employees enter and manage their own data in a single, easy to use software. visit paycom.com, and schedule your demo today. "should i invest in stocks or not?" meaning, "are stocks going to rise or not?", let's instead stop looking at the investments, which we can't control, and let's now look at our goals, which we can control. in other words, we only want to take as much risk as is necessary to achieve our goals. we need to protect the money that's there. and that says you should be investing in... arthel: defense secretary, saying the pint gone i pentagong the presence in germany by nearly a third. they will shift some the forces and the continent with around half to return home to the u.s. republican and democratic lawmakers questioning the move. let's bring in fox news senior strategic analyst, retired army general jack keane. general, always good to have you. thank you for joining us. >> glad to be here. arthel: we're going to start here. president trump saying says this is base germany is delinquent on defense bills. defense secretary mark esper saying the move is part of the pentagon's broader effort to re distribute u.s. forces. across the world, to better compete with new threats from china and from russia. so which one is it? and is either explanation a good reason and strategy to pull some 12,000 troops out of germany? >> let's take those issues on here. first of all, the united states is repositioning forces globally to deal with the threats that we see, largely big power competition with china and russia and in that order. secondly, make no mistake here. this is all about germany not anting up to meet the 2% goal which is 2% of gdp is the goal that nato members established for themselves would be spent on defense. president trump ha has emphasizd that of before he became president and since being president, every nato meeting he's ever attended, a number of those nato countries have begun to move in the right direction. germany, which has the largest economy in europe, arthel, and the most productive, is not making any movement at all. they're still at 1.3%, 2024 is the goal to be at 2, they'll be at 1.5. they're not going to come close to the goal until 2031. so that's what the frustration is really all about here and why the 12,000 reduction out of 36,000 that are in germany. it has all to do with them not paying their bills. and i'm sympathetic to that. that is very frustrating, given the strength of that economy. but nonetheless, i think this could have been done a little bit better, to be frank about it. number one, everybody got caught by surprise. the pentagon, the nato members, the nato headquarters itself. when all this information was leaked a couple of weeks ago, the congress of the united states i think it would have been better for us to present a plan to nato, here's what we're thinking about doing. we are a member nation. get the feedback from the other 27 nations about what's the impact on the collective defense, how are we going to mitigate all of that. i think we would have probably got people raising their hands saying listen, i'll take some of those troops in my country, et cetera. that would have been a little bit better than where we are now. secondly, i think there was an opportunity here, arthel, to actually strengthen nato's defense as a result of this. you mentioned the numbers, 5600 are being moved around inside europe. a couple of headquarters are going to move and air force squad droforcesquadis going to . 6400 are coming home. if we took them and put them to countries east of germany, where the threat is, where russia is intimidating and coercing eastern european allies who are all members of nato and we have some forces there right now but we don't have enough of them. and i think this was an opportunity to actually strengthen that. the good news is, i don't think this is over, arthel. i think it's going to -- it will take some time to do all of this and i think as time goes on, we may have some opportunities here to make some adjustments. arthel: so that's how president trump, he placed his -- plays his game of strategy, he said listen, i'll walk away and forces germany's hand to come to the table, considering what you're saying, this is not over, perhaps there can be some resolution at the end. really hayed hate to do -- really hate to do this, 20 of seconds left. >>, how does vladimirputin watc. >> the people that are criticizing this and saying this is weakening our hand and strengthening putin's hand, that's an overstatement. putin looks at the difference of a few thousand troops, that's not going to make any difference in terms of the collective defense in real tangible terms and nato is all about, what is the political will of nato. are they willing to stand up to russia? all the evidence is, they are. that hasn't changed. arthel: good as vice as all, maybe you should give the president a call. general jack keane, thank you very much, sir. we'll be right back. with our s. but not every tomato ends in the same kind of heinz ketchup. because you can't be everyone's 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democrats including speaker nancy pelosi piled on praise for her ability to work across the aisle, reliable record and loyalty. a rumored top quality for biden. bass reportedly has been calling union leaders to gain endorsements and pelosi shared her esteem with former president barack obama who counseled my bn to an extent. another past president, bill clinton, has reportedly gone to bat for keisha lance bottoms according to the wall street journal. allies of senator kamala harris had a phone call trying to set the record straight after questions about her loyalty surfaced within the vp vetting -- first presidential debate. coming to her defense, karen bass, responding to criticism of cay ma kamala's presidential am. >> her campaign was not a symbolic campaign. she was a viable candidate. she made history with that candidacy. and so don't call me the anti-kamala. and i said that. the two of us talked about it the other day. >> reporter: one outlet previously called bass the anti-a 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expired yesterday. some progress was reportedly made but so far not enough because an agreement right now remains elusive. welcome to america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. arthel: hi, eric. hello, i'm arthel neville. republicans and democrats both want another round of stimulus checks but they disagree on a number of issues including term limits for the $600 unemployment benefit and funding for businesses, schools and covid-19 testing. house speaker nancy pelosi reacting earlier today. >> and what we are doing is not only trying to arrest the virus, but to invest in the economy as we help america's working families. so today was productive in terms of moving us forward. arthel: let's go to mark meredith, live at the white house with more. hi, mark. >> reporter: hi, arthel. there's no secret that the pandemic is more than a health cries kiss but also an economic one. so many millions of americans struggling to make ends meet right now. top officials had a chance to head to capitol hill to meet with senior democrats about how best to stimulate the economy again. we heard from treasury secretary steve mnuchin. >> it is a priority for the president to make sure that we deal with the issues that unemployment has run out and the rental eviction. so we understand that the speaker and senator schumer want to have an overall deal so we'll be back here working full-time until we can accomplish something for the benefit of the american people. >> reporter: many republicans have been resisting the idea of enhanced unemployment insurance to keep going at the $600 a week because it could entice some people not to return back to work. some lawmakers think the best idea could be adjusting the benefit based on the person's past income. >> long-term unemployment leads to longer term unemployment and severe problems for a family, for an individual. so i think we need something but it needs more tailoring to kind of where people's needs are. >> reporter: democrats say the needs are already so massive nationwide with 30 million americans depending on the $600 a week added on already. democrats say that they want to see this benefit extended and trying to shorten it appears to be a nonstarter with them. >> if there are a million people, million small businesses hurting you don't compromise and say we're only going to help half of them. on the other hand, we had really -- it was the best discussions we've had so far. and i'd call it progress but a way toss go. >> reporter: as for president trump, he spent today at his golf club in virginia. he changed his travel plans for the weekend, postponing an event at the florida golf resort that was supposed to happen today. the president suggested it's possible that he could unveil some sort of new healthcare proposal legislation, plan, executive orders. we're still waiting to see what that will be. he teased it yesterday, says it could come as early as tomorrow. right now, we'll have to wait and see. arthel. arthel: mark, thank you very much. eric. eric: arthel, the search for a coronavirus vaccine could be picking up steam and man, would that be good news. the first phase three clinical trial is now underway in our country by moderna. 30,000 volunteers have been enrolled in that and under the trump administration's operation warp speed, the vaccine we are told could potentially be available for distribution by the eastboun end of this year. all this as the u.s. has surpassed 4.5 million cases of coronavirus, costing more than 153,000 deaths. alicia acuna has the latest details on covid-19 and on the fight against it. hi, alicia. >> reporter: hi, eric. let's begin with tracking being done by johns hopkins university, these are states on the upward trend, missouri, oklahoma, mississippi, nebraska, rhode island. illinois, south dakota, alaska, hawaii. and this cdc map shows where people have died. the green shaded states have reported deaths of more than 5,000. california surpassed 9,000 deaths from covid-19 and florida is at more than 7,000. the state of georgia continues to report increasing deaths and today an additional 74 since yesterday. on friday, dr. anthony fauci testified on capitol hill about the hopes for a vaccine that could be approved by the end of the year. >> we at the nih are doing the vaccine studies with the companies. the fda will look at that data and on a science based decision will make a determination as to the safety and efficacy and whether or not it will be approved. >> reporter: today, the president pushed back on a cbs news tweet that linked to more of that testimony by dr. fauci. quote, dr. fauci explains why the u.s. has continued to see a surge in cases while european countries have seen a sharp decrease. he says most european countries shut their economy by 95%, while functionally the u.s. only shut its economy down by 50% to which the president responded, wrong. we have more cases because we have tested far more than other countries. 60 million. if we tested less, there would be less cases. how did italy, france and spain do? now europe sadly has flare-ups. most of our governors worked hard and smart and we will come back strong. as states try to figure out what to do about returning to schools, one of the first school districts in the country reopened and within hours they had to isolate a student. it happened at greenfield central junior high school in indiana. the superintendent says protocols went into motion, tracking where the student had been and with whom and the school is being disinfected and anyone in immediate contact with that child is being told to quarantine for 14 days. eric. eric: all right, alicia. thanks so much. the coronavirus can have many lasting health effects and especially in heart issues. that has been illustrated by an announcement from the boston red sox. they have said the pitcher will not pitch the rest of the season after suffering heart inflammation because he contracted coronavirus. the team said today that though rodriguez's condition so far has not really improved, after rest, so they shut i'm dow shut him de rest of the season. he was first sidelined before the season started. he says he was kind of scared. he says now i know what it is, it's still scary, but i no exactly what -- but i know exactly what it is. they expect him to make a full recovery and return next year. best wishes to eduardo rodrigu rodriguez. arthel: hurricane isaias downgraded to a tropical storm after hitting the bahamas earlier today. miami officials shut down beaches and parks and shelters opened in some counties. coastal communities in other states are bracing for impact with the storm on track to move up the eastern seaboard. rick leventhal is live in fort lauderdale with more. the storm could be upgraded again, right? >> reporter: yeah, the national hurricane center believes that it will upgrade overnight, back to 75 plus-mile-an-hour winds and a category 1 hurricane. in the meantime, we are feeling some of the early effects. we've had a number of rain squalls blow through, we're getting wind gusts and you can see the surf behind me. it's rough here in fort lauderdale. most likely it will be like this up the hurricane coastline. there are hurricane watches around warnings in effect in all of the coastal counties in florida, up to jacksonville beach. they expect the effects will be felt beyond there, perhaps impacting in the carolinas and all the way up into new england in the next few days. meanwhile, in deerfield beach where hurricane watch is in effect and the red flags were flying and no swimming warnings were in effects, people went into the ocean including dozens of surfers, trying to take advantage of the aggressive waves in the at lai atlantic. while others spent the day more cautiously, stocking up on supplies for the storm. >> i feel that the public is really panicking. because it's a hurricane and we're in the middle of a pandemic. so it's like weird. because we thought that we had enough with corona. so then a hurricane is coming, so people are panicking even more about it. >> reporter: isaias has been doing some damage on its way to florida through the turks and caicos and puerto rico and then into the bahamas. just one year after hurricane dorian devastated some of that island chain there, were trees down, power lines down and some surface flooding there as well. back here in florida, some shelters are being prepared. but they're doing so with coronavirus precautions. they're going to temperature check people when they show up. and they're going to separate people, social distance them, if you will. so strange times. strange procedures in a state that had a spike in cases here, arthel. but right now, the primary concern at least here along the beach is the storm that's headed this way. arthel: no doubt, a lot to deal with at the same time. live there in fort lauderdale, florida, rick leventhal, thank you. eric. eric: arthel, if it's not the huge storm threatening the beaches, it's the sharks. you know, there have been more sightings this summer after that deadly great white shark attack that occurred in maine. swimmers in some spots were forced to get out of the water for hours. officials telling fox news that another shark was spotted off the coast of long island near new york city this morning. the multiple sightings all along the east coast the past few weeks sparking concerns about sharks from new england to alabama. aishah hasnie live in new york city with more on all of these shark sightings. hi, aishah. >> reporter: swimmers in long island just jumped out of the water in the last hour here as police spotted yet another shark jimming is -- swimming is prohibited until further notice in several beaches in long island. this is the second time today they saw a shark on long island's south shore, the shark patrol, they're patrolling the area keeping a very close eye out for any of those fins. this brings the total to 14 sightings just this week in long island. several more though along the east coast from maryland all the way to maine. that state as you know saw its first ever deadly attack at the start of this week by a great white shark which by the way still is out there in the water. some of the sightings are believed to be dangerous bull sharks, aggressive sharks there. a massive 8-foot bull shark was caught by a group of college students just about two weeks ago. officials in the coastal towns are trying to explain what's going on. >> we have the coronavirus pandemic, we have 50% capacity at the beach, we're in the middle of a heat wave and now we have sharks. the water temperature this the mid-70s we have seen a greater amount of bait fish in the area. that's drawing the sharks to the area. >> reporter: and sharks are also resurging in population because of some federal regulations. now, here's some perspective, eric. so far this year, there have been 13 shark attacks in the u.s. compare that, though, to 28 attacks for the same period last year, so we are seeing a lower number of attacks this year. experts say, you know, follow the necessary precautions. don't wear those dark colored wet suits, they might make you resemble a seal. don't wear shiny objects that could attract sharks. follow beach rules. pay attention to what the lifeguards are saying. as you see what's happening in long island, things are changing by the hour there. eric. eric: tragically, the 63-year-old woman who was attacked by the great white in maine was wearing a black wet suit. they say that the shark probably mistook her for a seal, what they naturally feed on. aishah, thank you. arthel: for more on all of this, let's bring in marine biology professor, dr. chris lowe, the director of the shark lab at california state university long beach. first of all, dr. lowe, your reaction in response to the shark sightings off the east coast. >> well, actually it's not very surprising. we know that white shark populations have been increasing in many places, particularly off new england, mainly because of protection and recovery of marine animals. it's actually a good siefnl it's very unfortunate when someone is bitten but it's a good sign that conservation is working. arthel: i understand your perspective on that. as people run to the ocean to get away from coronavirus, any words of warning or wisdom to keep them safe from sharks? >> sure. well, what we always tell people is stay in a group. there's safety in numbers. so the beach behind me is full of people today. it's a beautiful day in southern california. we saw five white sharks off the beach literally two hours ago. and people are in the water. these are juveniles. they're different than some of the adults found off the new england coast. nonetheless, people are used to dealing with them here in california. arthel: so you say there's groups of people on the beach but you're saying go in the water as a group as well? >> yes. if you're in the water, stay in a group. there's safety in numbers. if you're surfing, surf in a group, swimming, swim in a group. we know swimming at guarded beaches is safer. we always recommend that people do that. arthel: you mentioned on the west coast you're seeing more juvenile sharks, younger sharks. why? >> well, this is their nursery. the beach you're looking at behind me is a nursery for white sharks on the northeast pacific. this is one of the hot spots for them. we have about 25 juvenile white sharks back here. probably ranging between five and nine feet long. they're literally 100 feet off the shore right now. arthel: before i let you go, what's your closest encounter with a shark that was not so good? >> well, i haven't had very many that weren't so good. actually, they've all been pretty good. learning how to read their behavior is really important and we're trying to do that by using drones so we can educate people what an aggressive shark looks like versus a calm shark. arthel: we'll leave it there, dr. chris lowe, thank you very much. take care, sir. eric. eric: i don't want to see a calm shark or an aggressive shark. wow. meanwhile, the trump campaign hitting a momentary pause on tv and radio ads, with less than 100 days to go before the election. what is driving the change in strategy and will it pay off? white house correspondent jeff mason is here on what the trump big wigs are planning and why they are doing it. we made usaa insurance for veterans like liz and mike. an army family who is always at the ready. so when they got a little surprise... two!? ...they didn't panic. they got a bigger car for their soon-to-be-bigger family. after shopping around for insurance, they called usaa - who helped find the right coverage for them and even some much-needed savings. that was the easy part. usaa insurance is made the way liz and mike need it- easy. from grills to play setsutdoor the way liz and mike need it- and more 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further lift than crazy bernie sanders even thought possible. by the way, bernie's people love me on trade. all of this comes after a shakeup in the trump campaign staff. bill stempien replacing brad p parskall. jeff mason is here, white house correspondent for reuters. is this an expected review of policy and ad spending when you swap out the top job in the campaign, or is it about something else? >> well, it's hard for me to say whether it's expected but it certainly makes sense with the new campaign manager, he would want to stop and take a look at the strategy and a big part of any campaign strategy has to do with advertising spending. so in that sense, i think it makes sense. on the other hand, stopping all ads in a state like michigan, which is so critical to the election this year, and was in 2016, certainly raises eyebrows about whether or not the campaign thinks it can still win there and joe biden is up substantially in public polls in michigan and it does cast sort of a broader question mark over whether the trump campaign will continue to push to win the state that helped propel him in 2016 which included michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. eric: john roberts, white house correspondent, your colleague in the briefing room has a report out this afternoon that part of this perhaps is part of a campaign strategy to go after the early voting states, those that start absentee ballots, they'll save the money now, start on something new monday and go after pennsylvania, michigan, florida, north carolina. is that a strategic move to start targeting voters who start voting -- i'm not going to say now, but fairly shortly, the end of the month? >> well, i haven't seen john's report but it would make sense that both campaigns would start targeting voters who are going to be going to the polls early and there is an irony, however, in focusing on people who will be sending in ballots because there's certainly been a controversy largely based on the tweet that the president sent this last week about mail-in voting and absentee ballots. so, yes, that may be true and that may be something that both sides will be looking at closely. certainly having early voting and having either absentee or mail-in voting or a combination of the two is likely to be a big piece of the 2020 election because of the coronavirus. and that of course has led to as i referenced some controversy from the top, from president trump, about whether or not he sees or will see thistle ebbing asee this election as being fraudulent. eric: here's the communications director from 2016. let's listen. >> agenda, we'll be on tv in michigan, absolutely. in the fall and all the way up until election day just as we will be in key battleground states and with our national buys. americans, our data shows that a lot of people know who joe biden is but not very many know much about him and that's going to change between now and election day, believe me. eric: that's interesting, because they may pivot from sleepy joe to policy. i mean, the wall street journal comes out says that biden wants to raise taxes by $3 trillion. do you expect that we'll see this type of pivot with the trump ads going more toward policy and these type of issues? >> i definitely expect to hear more or see more of an effort by the trump campaign to quote, unquote, define joe biden. there's been a sense that has not been done as well or as much as it could be and as the campaign now goes into its final stretch, i definitely think we'll see more of that. that will no doubt include policy and the reference to taxes is going to be undoubtedly on the list. you may also see a return to the strategy that the campaign was employing before the coronavirus, trying to paint joe biden and the democratic party as socialists. you've seen the president referencing bernie sanders more and more including in a tweet that you read at the beginning of this segment. so i think you may see more of that and all of it will be an effort to define joe biden as basically a scary alternative, both on a policy level and on a broader political spectrum level to the incumbent. eric: well, man, politics is a rough sport. jeff -- >> rough sport, eric. [ laughter ] eric: it really is. we get to report on it. jeff mason, white house core upon dent of reuters would -- correspondent of reuters who we always welcome on the fox news channel when he's with us. arthel: a state of emergency has been issued for parts of the east coast as tropical storm isaias moves closer towards florida. meteorologist adam klotz has the when and where, up next. [♪] when you have diabetes, managing your blood sugar is crucial. try boost glucose control. the patented blend is clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. it provides 60% more protein than the leading diabetes nutrition shake. try boost glucose control. 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gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible. arthel: hurricane isaias has been downgraded to a tropical storm. but not before carving its way of through the bahamas. the powerful storm now barreling towards florida. meteorologist adam klotz is tracking its path. adam, what can you tell us. >> reporter: arthel, as you said, the storm has dropped down to a tropical storm, likely is going to restrengthen and become a hurricane probably overnight tonight. the reason this happened, i can step out of the way, running over the bahamas, this kind of tore up a little bit. we're back out over open water, beginning to see these winds maybe intensify over the next couple hours again as we slowly drift towards the coast. we're really beginning in the last several hours to see the outer bands of rain working across portions of out south florida, at times heavy downpours. the winds are gusting with this system, up to 85 miles an hour, consistent winds at 70 miles an hour. this will take place from tonight into monday morning at least in florida. here's the forecast you do see it going from a tropical storm, bounces back up to a category 1 hurricane and you'll watch it run up the coast, maybe weakening before it exits the state. if it gets close to land, it will slow it down. farther out to sea, the winds will stay stronger. that's something we're going to have to watch west don't know if this is going to make landfall in florida. it's going to run along the coast. better chance for landfall, as you head north, from south carolina to north carolina, it's a weaker storm but by that point you're talking about farther inland so bringing more rain with it and then this eventually continues to march its way up to coast, we're going to be seeing this in new york city and boston and up across new england, eventually into canada. really paying attention to this for the next 24 hours across portions of florida. this is going to be a storm that sticks with us at least until wednesday of the upcoming week. arthel: heavy rain can cause flooding at and a lot of damage. so we'll keep an eye out for it. thank you. eric: the folks at nasa are keeping a close eye on isaias as the space agency is moving ahead with plans to bring the two u.s. astronauts home from the international space station. they're set to splash down in the waters off of florida, off of the gulf coast. phil keating is live in cocoa beach with all of this. hi, phil. >> reporter: this is absolutely the last day this weekend for fun and sun in the sand and in the surf and as you see behind me people have been out there playing in the water out in the atlantic and surfing all day long. but tomorrow, different story as what is currently a tropical storm is expected to restrengthen overnight as adam said into hurricane isaias and wind and rain should be slamming the space coast tomorrow for much of the day. we are in the hurricane warning zone which stretches from boca raton up to daytona beach. the primary concerns today, red flag surf and sunburn. south of here in satellite beach, pretty much the same scene and story today. south florida, broward and miami-dade county which has already seen some bands of rain, but it's only expecting tropical storm effects. here is what it looks like in miami beach and lauderdale by the sea which is near fort lauderdale. forecasted -- forecasters expected hurricane isaias is not expected to make landfall in florida with the worst winds and rains happening in the atlantic. there is always a chance the eye could shift west and that could raise the impact on the heavily populated coastline. one thing the storm will not impact is the gulf of mexico and the west side of florida. that's where the two astronauts who blasted off from cape canaveral two months ago on the spacex maiden voyage will splash down near pensacola. yesterday the astronauts and the cosmonauts held a farewell ceremony. they say their bags are packed and they're ready to go home. they'll be bringing back this pedasorus which the sons picked for the journey and an american flag. the capsule is going to undock tonight around 7:30 with splashdown targeted for 2:42 eastern time tomorrow. we are hoping that nasa's going to be providing some live streaming of that. they do intend to have some cameras on the recovery boat as well as on a plane flying around. and when that actually happens, the splashdown, what could be the worst of the storm could be happening right here on the other side of the state. eric. eric: well, it's always amaze whack they can do. all right, phil, thanks so much. arthel. arthel: it's a big week for nasa with the scheduled splashdown that phil's talking about, spacex rocket tomorrow. the space agency is celebrating the successful launch of its high tech mars rover. it's packed with sophisticated gear. i'll tell you more about what's on-board. he heading to the red planet in search of life. tom jones, a former nasa astronaut joining us now. thank you. and i want to start with the splashdown first. the nasa administration saying they're looking at pensacola as the target for the splashdown so as you know the west side of the panhandle in the gulf. walk us through what's happening inside the capsule during splashdown and how hard is that on the crew's bodies? >> it's an interesting experience. we haven't splashed a crew down, arthel, in the ocean since 1975. doug and bob get to be guinea pigs on this new return system, this commercial transportation system from spacex and boeing to follow. so the splashdown will be a little bit rugged on them. they've been in space for two months. they've been used to weightlessness. now they'll be punished with 4 and-a-half gs on the way home and an impact on the water. gravity at that point feels really intense even though you're at normal earth gravity. it takes several hours to get used to the normal earth feeling again. so they feel very heavy and fatigued. they're in a boat that's rocking the whole time it's going to be a little tough on the crew but they signed up for this and i think they're ready for it. arthel: and the splashdown would happen as you said off the coast of florida which is bracing for a tropical storm isaias. can the dragon capsule endeavor crew members, bob and doug, can they just call the whole thing off? >> well, looks like the waves are too high or the wind conditions are out of limits for the parachute splashdown, they would postpone for a period of hours. what they're looking for is a daylight landing in good, calm, clear, fair weather conditions if you will and access to them from the recovery boats and helicopters right away. they want to get them out of the capsule as soon as possible. if it doesn't look good they'll postpone for perhaps an entire day or a period of of hours. arthel: how long is the return? >> when you press the button to fire the engine to return to earth, it's 45 minutes from that point. they could be in space away from the space station for as long as 30 hours. arthel: space enthusiasts, activate. the launching of the biggest, most sophisticated mars rover ever built, the size of a car, it's fully loaded with cameras, microphones, first time sound will be recorded on another planet, drills, lasers and the perseverance blasted off for mars on thursday as part of an ambitious long range project to bring the first martian rock samples back to earth to be analyzed for evidence of ancient life. what do you think about this? >> this is a big step up in mars science. you're getting to a big, big rover, it's the size of a mini cooper, if you will. it's nuclear powered. it's going to last at least two years on mars. by the time the perseverance arrives in seven months it will be ready for an exploration of the geology of mars, past climates that will tell us whether life once existed on mars. it has the equipment to look for biological compounds, organic chemical materials to tell us whether or not in this crater there was once the right conditions for life and perhaps the building blocks for life there. arthel: it's also equipped with a helicopter. how much of a game changer is the helicopter on-board this mars rover? >> well, it's like a wright brothers test flight. it's the ingentlemen new a helie off for five test flights. they have a camera, will be able to look down on the rover itself and to tell us whether we can do aerial exploration and whether that might be a good way to pursue further exploration of mars as well. arthel: the air is thin up there, so -- right? so it will make it difficult. >> it's 1,000 times thinner than here on earth. the helicopter blades have to be big. the burst of power from the solar powered batteries will give it five minutes of flight in each case. then it recharges and takes off. arthel: last lirks it's going to i think the -- lastly, it's going to the northern hemisphere of the planet, this is a different area that's being explored, is that right? the site is a crater, a big bowl shaped crater that was once filled with lake matters. the theory is the river coming into the bowl like crater received sediments that washed down organic materials that might be tracers of life. so the perseverance will drill into the rocks of the crater, looking for biological tracers. arthel: former nasa astronaut, tom jones. thank you. i'm looking forward to it. i know you are. we'll talk to you again soon. eric. eric: just fascinating. jimmy hoffa, he vanished 45 years ago this week. we've been following the new developments on fox news and on our fox nation, on our exclusive streaming series, riddledded, the search for james hoffa. up next, we have an update and a call for the fbi hoffa files to be finally made public. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear perfection. ♪ ♪ ♪ 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claimed that it was his father who buried hoffa at that dump. >> you're saying your father buried jimmy hoffa. >> yes. he said he couldn't fit in the drum feet first. he couldn't get the legs to bend right so he had to take him out and put him in head first. >> the thing between all of them was the body comes back to jersey. >> why do you think? >> it's a jersey thing. he was a jersey guy in control. keep him close. eric: the father co-owned the dump with frank's father, they're both in our special series, streaming on fox nation. with us now, my colleague, the most prominent hoffa expert in the nation, author of the hoffa wars, dan m uldea. the public should know that frank passed away a few months ago after our interview. he was not in great health but he wanted what he knew out. he wanted the public to know. he wanted this solved for the hoffa family. how important is what frank said? how important is that? >> first of all, congratulations for all your fine work, eric. you've done a great job. eric: you too. thank you. >> this has been part of the hoffa lore from the outset in 1975. i've been involved since the outset, since july 1975. and i had received a telephone call from paul kapola junior a florida business man out of the tampa area who said his father was partners with phil muskoto, the reputed crime family member who had -- when i interviewed phil he told me in act one of the case, vito picked him up and drove him where he was murdered by sal bagulio and ralph, who said he was murdered in detroit, loaded on a truck and shipped to new jersey and he speculated it was at the dump and the fbi got a search warrant for the dump. they didn't have a specific location so the search went nowhere. after paul kapola introduced me to his brother, frank and i had several interviews. we met in new jersey. we had dinner on september 28. during dinner with his girlfriend, his best friend, i said -- he said i'm going to go to the landfill tomorrow, the dump and i said you're taking me with you. and so we went. and i had a body camera on. i had a hand camera. we did a 45 minute tour, culminating with this is the spot where my father buried jimmy hoffa, all on film. eric: let me unpack something. jack, the brother of the former mob boss of detroit, you had -- >> one of the three people hoffa was supposed to meet that day, correct. eric: sally buggs, was a you new jersey mob officer. heather: -- mo mobster and thei papers we've seen said he org. straited the disappearance of james hoffa and he was killed himself gangland style in 1978 so the fbi could never make a case against sally buggs. what do you think the chances are that hoffa's still buried at that dump? >> i have pushed my chips all in on this. i am begging people to dance on my head if i'm wrong. but i believe 100% that hoffa was buried there after the murder and i believe 100% that the body is still there. i have been doing work here for the past year, much of which i was working with you on, and i have been saying to the fbi it is time that we do this. i don't want to give the fbi everything on a silver platter, just so they can -- i can read about it in the new york times two months from now or see it on fox news at the same time. i -- i want to make sure that i present the -- eric: we're running out of time. getting the files out, making the information public, that to me is also so crucial. you think the files -- we should get this information out, know what the fbi knows, i think. >> the document i want more than anything, the document i want more than anything is a search warrant that went to the 2006 search with regard to roland mcmaster, our friend and colleague scott bernstein came out with a great story which shows the likely location where hoffa was taken and murdered and the person they gave the body to was roland mcmaster, the person i have been on since day one on this case saying that he disposed of jimmy hoffa's body, the person who put in the 55-gallon drum, the one who had it transported into new jersey. and we need that affidavit that went towards for probable cause for the search warrant. eric: it's all in the fbi files, the government should release the fbi files. the hoffa family wants it released. calls great to see -- always great to see you. we'll be right back. because we're here to safely serve you with new procedures that exceed cdc guidelines and value your time. visionworks. see the difference. are your asthma treatments just not enough? then see what could open up for you with fasenra. it is not a steroid or inhaler. it is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. it's an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. nearly 7 out of 10 adults with asthma may have elevated eosinophils. fasenra is designed to target and remove eosinophils, a key cause of asthma. it helps to prevent asthma attacks, improve breathing, and can reduce the need for oral steroids like prednisone. 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a diver can go to. >> reporter: pictures of the intense search and rescue efforts are coming in. the navy and coast guard along with helicopters and three war ships are searching for the eight missing service members. eight marines were rescued from the water. one marine is dead and two are hospitalized in critical condition. they were in an accident during routine training, near a navy owned island off the coast of san diego. here's some video of a similar training operation from september. 15 marines an one sailor were inside the amphibious assault vehicle at the time of the accident. the military craft was on its way back to a navy ship. everyone involved in the tragic training mishap is part of a unit out of camp pendleton. they suspended operations for amphibious assault vehicles out of an abundance of caution until they figure out what caused the deadly accident. arthel: very sad, christina, thank you. eric, it reminds us of all the hard work and dedication that goes into 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