because they have discouraged investment in u.s. energy, prices are going to go up because the world is underinvested in fossil fuels. >> jackie: we talked about possibly using executive action to implement the policies that have been shut down at least for now for the build back better bill. some of that would include energy policies also. if you keep tightening regulations, our country is going to be like california where the average for a gallon of gas is over $4. in some places they're paying $7 a gallon. of course, people are saying why? why president biden would you consider trying to kill and shut down this industry right now? our alternative energy is not ready yet. >> they're not ready yet. follow the science. we're not there yet. to be honest with president biden, if he really wants to have a successful energy transition, he needs oil and gas people on his team. he has none.