do you think mitch mcconnell blinked? >> no. what i think mitch mcconnell said is consistent with what he said all along. we're not going to default. we must not default and we won't. >> neil: he also said he would never help out. democrats have to fix this on their own. now they're not on their own. >> ultimately the proposals that he makes require the democrats to have 50 votes plus 1 to break the tie. republicans would allow democrats to get on to that kind of a bill, the debt limit votes would be provided by republicans and democrats that are interesting. the increase in the debt is driven by two things. one, the 1.9 trillion package at the beginning of the year, march, where no republican was included on purpose. they did it unreconciliation. that was for covid. more than half of it didn't go to covid. went for social spending. now this big package, the 3.5 or