>> absolutely. >> neil: use in the end, it is his actions that speak louder than his words. >> it let's be clear, president trump is the most impactful president from up policy perspective for african-americans in my lifeti lifetime. >> neil: a low unemployment. >> it we could go record low unemployment. we could talk about opportunities. the first step act. we are talking about thousands of people released from jail, thousands being black. this president has been the most impactful president for african-americans in my lifetime. that's not just african-americans. >> neil: all key groups -- does it make you bristle when a lot of people come back, oh, yeah, he's a racist? >> when i hear that, note democrats have been saying since 2016, nobody will ever vote for trump. in 2016, 8% of african-americans voted for him overall. >> neil: you famously said, "what the hell if you got to lose"?