the question came up about black faith she was not in black, joining me now with reaction fox news contradict tore raymond raymond afterwards you have a picture of joy in black face. i mean, she really darkened her skin and wore the afro so she lied about that so besides that. format of the show it really is a bunch of very angry people just -- pile and it is not a fair fight. no. it is not a fair fight and jesse i've seen this up close and personal years ago laura and i wrote a book together and w she went on view and i accompany her and we were there in the green room i spoke to joy and barbara walters was still there at the time. when you pull their blue cards and you saw meghan mccain reading from her card they letterly have parts it is like a play. joy -- barbara, the star they have the names of the people and exactly