that actual day. >> tucker: so things start to fall apart. people stream in the building. you call upwards in the command chain, "help me!" you don't gate response. what do you -- you don't get a response. what do you do next? >> around 2:00 -- it may have been a little bit after 2:00 -- i hear an officer say that the capitol was breached. so i ran inside of the building. i ran, you know, to assist. i knew that, um, that location of where the first breach occurred was near where the members of congress would be locked in. we initiated a lockdown, so that means the chamber doors on the senate side and on the house side were locked. so that means the members of congress would be safe inside those locked rooms. >> tucker: yes. >> so i ran over to the house side first to make sure those doors were locked and then i ran over to the senate side to make sure that those doors were locked. so i asked over the radio and i say something to the effect t that, um, "we need direction! we have hundreds of people inside of the building. what do you want us to do?