of legal fees for gibson's with about 32 million that oberlin owes. they are continuing to fight it, they have appealed it, they are continuing to attack the bakery. in fact in a really extraordinary move, after the trial was over, they tried to get unsealed facebook records from one of the gibson's children, the clerk. the students who wasn't a party, didn't testify and why release these facebook records? it's because oberlin continues to demonize this small family bakery, refuses to accept any responsibility for what they did to them and shows no remorse and they are appealing at. they fired additional lawyers for the appeal. they've already spent or their insurers spent $5 million fighting this little bakery and they just cannot seem -- >> tucker: shafting the little people. oberlin, meanwhile for viewers who are not aware, it's like the scary type of the annoying rich kid school. it is not actually a real college but it's incredibly expensive but it's incredibly expensive and i have a lot of