Get this story out when the white house was aware that this was an issue, and essentially Karine Jeanpierre had a similar answer pretty much every time. Watch. Where you or any member of your staff involved in the crafting of a strategy as to when this disclosure should be made . Seemed like he was thinking the investigation would end soon. Was he surprised . Does this episode undercut that argument, that he restored confidence . Here we have in the headline that he is now under investigation. Follow whatever protocol was in place. Again, this is something that he takes very seriously. The president , when it comes to classified documents, when it comes to Classified Information. I am not going to go into any specifics from here. John on sat with me, harold ford jr. And Kellyanne Conway, but first, bret baier, fox news Chief Political Anchor and Executive Editor and interim special reporter joins me. Bret, good happy with us today. He goes into that weekend and into delaware. I am told they have cleared out everything they are concerned about in that house on those premises. I guess that remains to be seen. But politically, this is a situation that has clearly intensified for him. I think it is more intense than people thought heading in. Obviously the seriousness of handling Classified Information but the ferocity of the story has developed and the discovery and lack of transparency of the second batch and third batch, and then the addition of the Attorney General and Special Counsel has changed the whole dynamic, and the politics of this are horrible for the white house at this point. I think Karine Jeanpierre was just punting all day to the White House Counsels Office, which they are not going to put them out, they are going to pick up the phone and call them and get answers that they will give you, or the Justice Department. The Justice Department isnt going to give you any information on any of this. There are questions the White House Press secretary could answer about when they knew, when they chose to not order it to come forward with the information but she is putting it all under the umbrella of dysfunctional the sl investigation. Martha it is kind of impossible to believe there were not discussions about how we are going to handle this, when are we going to explain that your lawyers found these documents, and a decision was made somewhere along the line, bret, to make that disclosure not until after it was reported in the press, so essentially they sat on it for quite some time, even after an investigator was looking into it. I just want to play this because we have seen whole sides spinning really hard on how the American People should react to this and this was a particularly unique take from representative hank johnson. Watch this. Speak i am suspicious of the timing of it. I am also aware of the fact that things can be planted on people, things can be planted in places and then discovered conveniently. That may be what has occurred here. I am not ruling that out. Martha that is one theory, bret. Listen, we should point out the hypocrisy goes across both aisles and republicans, some of them including the former president and some people tied to him or suggesting maybe they could be planted materials down in maralago. There are republicans now who are saying what happened with former President Trump is somehow okay and this is really egregious. Both things can be very bad about the mishandling of classified material because the statute as it is written is the Gross Negligence of handling classified material. And you have differences. You have quantity. You have maralago protected by Secret Service but there are questions about who had access to those documents and why they were there. You have real questions about the security of the Vice President and now president s materials, and the fact that peter doocy asked the question the way he asked it, the president answered with an answer about the documents being in this garage, locked with his corvette. We probably wouldnt have known that specific and gotten it confirmed because they would have been under this shield of a Special Counsel investigation. So, this is not a good week for President Biden, there is no doubt about it, politically, as it heads into the weekend and goes forward. Martha covering politics, you just never know what is coming around the corner, and the president has been on sort of a good run heading into the midterms and after the midterms, as well, and now he has this to deal with and it flies in the face of a lot of what he has said on this particular subject but you are absently right, bret, to point out that there are some parallel situations and each side is using it to the best of their political advantage at this point. Good to see you, bret, thank you so much. We will see you tonight on special report. With that we bring in Kellyanne Conway former and former congressman harold ford jr. Boulder fox news contributors. Good have you both with us. Harold, you are sort of the voice of reason so how do you see these two situations and, you know, why is it that these individuals think that the rules dont apply to them when it comes to taking things home with you from the white house . First, thanks for having me, happy friday, and i think it personifies fairness, bret baier. I view them separately. Its unusual to have two president s, same Attorney General call for a Special Counsel for both of them, the predicate matter being behind what theyre looking at. The question i have not heard the press asked, and they really didnt ask President Trump, either, when discovered at the maralago, where the boxes ope . And President Bidens case it may be more relevant because he has said he was surprised to discover that these things were found in his locked room at the biden center come at the penn center in washington. Martha in the garage. We are circling, i thought center raised a great point, we dont know if those are the papers. We do know they were in the garage. Are they open . Chain of custody, that had to be established because this was six years ago these documents were moved, or at least should have been between now and six years ago. We should have some clarity around that. I have not heard the press, the press has been curious, is there a coverup and how they wanted to disclose this, and i think that is a super fair story. The extraordinary aspect of this is not lost on me. The fact that President Trump had his place searched by the police has gotten people enraged on one side and democrats enraged on the other. But this is a serious matter. I just hope that the zone we are all looking at continues to be flooded with more facts. I feel for ms. Jeanpierre because i dont know if she has all of the facts and all of the data to be able to present martha the president takes this very seriously, i think that has sort of lost its meeting. I dont know what it means. I agree, you have to have a little more than that or you are not coming out and talking about it, rather have someone from the White House Counsels Office perhaps answer those questions, or even the lawyers are presenting the president in this matter. Martha kellyanne, you wrote a piece today for the New York Times called the cases for and against trump, and in it you this, whether the 2024 president ial election is a cage re max of mr. Biden and mr. Trump remains to be seen from each has defied the o, calls for change, handling of questions of handling classified documents and questions about age. What is the impact of these two investigations on essentially the only two people, one we know and the other we assume to be running . Sure. Something we have litigated in the press for months now, at maralago, thats a 5monthold conversation. The new facts are not good for President Biden. Why . It doesnt matter, really, if the law does not care if you are handling them because you are sloppy or you are surreptitious. It is the purpose, if the intent was to conceal or just being convenient, the law is very cut and dry and i think that is the difficulty 14 biden right now. Martha and for team trump. And for team trump. The reason i say that is joe biden will send bend is 170th day in wilmington, delaware, since he has been president , that is a lot of dates. We dont know who else had access. Be on the right wing and social media today people are taking note that hunter biden claimed that home as his residence for several years, had a drivers license in that home, we already know what happens when he is left to his own devices, there is going to be investigations into his dealings in china and russia and ukraine and whatnot. The biden people came to town and said the adults have arrived, the buttoned up, tightened up crew is here of professionals. We are not the ragtag team, the Keystone Cops Trump had around him, we know how to handle Classified Information. No, they dont. I think the laws they almost benign response from the white house and President Biden himself is most concerning to me. Martha i think they are worried about it. You know what they should worry about . The Headlines Today were terrible for them, the chyrons from places like cnn, the questions in the press Briefing Room all sounded like peter doocy asking tough probing questions. Martha harold, what does that tell you . There is a lot of suggestion around that, around the tone of the press and other democrats, that they are okay with President Biden running into some roadblocks, that they would like to see some other people in the mix in 2024. I have not left to that conclusion yet. You look month ago, two months ago, President Biden had a good night in terms of the referendum on him in the midterms. I think some of the points that kellyanne makes, The Main Point she makes, i agree with fear i wouldnt Cast Aspersions on hunter biden going into that house, that is his fathers home, it is his family home. If there turns out there is evidence to suggest what kellyanne is inferring, that would be very damaging. The one difference here, another difference, talk about coming to town, Kellyanne May or may not agree, when Jeff Sessions called for a Special Counsel about the Campaign Matters unit mr. Trumps campaign in 2016, he was very angry. Democrats have supported this beer i dont believe the Attorney General is going to be fired or had pressure on him because he has chosen a Special Counsel, these facts are bad and i hope they flood the zone they being the biden team. The Special Counsel that Jeff Sessions appointed was Robert Mueller and that was for Russia Collusion that was never found, we have already seen the documents. In fact, every time biden or someone from his team and harold say, well, we just moved them, they are admitting guilt. Martha that guilt would also be the case for President Trump. But by the way, where is the optics equivalent, where is the rate of this garage in delaware and just throwing the papers around to try to embarrass the current president . Martha absolutely, there is a very different process that has been underway, harold they were negotiating with President Trump for a year to get the stuff. Martha it sounds like they were negotiating with these guys for several months, too. No martha you have President Bidens attorneys handling it, the doj because that was in place in november. Midterms. Two months ago. Martha they have been going back and forth and saying, well, you guys, convince us you have everything out of the house, we are not going to go in there yet, but clearly there have been conversations going back and forth. I dont disagree. If it reaches that point i would be the first to say the Special Counsel believes they need to go into that home in a police search, they should do that. There is a difference, and i think we should be there as we talk about the facts. Second consecutive election, harold, where they concealed information that the public should have had access to, first as the laptop, 70 of americans have a know that, they may have changed their vote from joe biden, and two years later, this is all happening on november 2nd, elections were the 8th, we have a right for transparency and credibility, and may not matter to people but they have a right to have that as part of the fact pattern as they go into the ballot box. Martha fair enough. Thank you very much. Good to see you both. So, devin nunes on the revelation that he was the subject of a fake narrative that was concocted by Top Democrats such as adam schiff as they tried to discredit devin nunes findings about the fbi and doj surveillance abuse, which all turned out to be true according to General Horowitz and his reports during the trumprussian investigation. Next. 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