background a little more later but here is some of what he said today in his opening argument. he said cohen's job, michael cohen who was an attorney and worked closely at one point with the president trump, cohen's job before as president was to take care of problems for the defendant. pecker would act as eyes and ears for the campaign. tell me your assessment of that through the opening argument and also of what may or may not have been legal or illegal about either one of those points? >> neither of those things are state crimes and that's not what alleged in the indictment. this is an indictment about business records, and all of the evidence is going to show that the business records and question were not made by president trump and were not in any way or shape or form fraudulent. michael cohen has we stated repeatedly in court pleadings has been found liable for perjury for a number of previous