can you hear him. you know how loud he is. and suddenly the joke is on cuomo. >> the whole panel to me looked very uncomfortable when i was watching this. everyone looks at each other. they the little laugh like oh, what is happening right now. [laughter] >> it was just very awkward. >> sandra: a little rehearsal could would have gone a long way. secretvictoria's secret for yeas this time of year had fashion show and models would walk the runway and people would tune in all over the world to watch this. they confirmed this week they are canceling that iconic fashion show. the me too era really bringing on changes like this, lisa. can you no longer do something like this in this day and age? >> well, they have asked me to do it a couple years in a row. [laughter] i have been look, i have a lot on my plate. i'm very busy. the numbers don't lie, right? their reality have seen a drastic decline. i think even in 2010 there was around 10 million viewers.