these investigations into burisma and biden and the 2016 crowd strike server. and you in that conversation with mr. giuliani basically debunked all of that. now at that time, at that breakfast, who else was with you at that breakfast? >> there was someone that mr. giuliani brought along. later learned that we've learned a lot about him since then. >> mr. lev parnas was at that breakfast, and we now know that mr. lev parnas has since been indicted for foreign campaign contributions to president trump's political action committee. is that correct? >> i have seen that. >> on may 23rd, you were in that discussion with the president, and at one point, he referred to