secret vote, 30 g.o.p. senators would vote to impeach. watch this. >> one republican senator told me if it was a secret vote, 30 republican senators would vote to impeach trump. >> martha: ben sasse also speaking out just to put this together. republicans ought not to be circling the wagons to say there is no there there when there's office the life that's troubling. your thoughts? >> i like the senator a lot, but here's what i would say to anybody. this phone call was billed as an attempt by the president of the united states to shake ukraine down, to threaten to withhold military aid and assistance to the ukraine unless the president of the ukraine opened an investigation against his political opponent. if you read this transcript, that's the furthest thing from the truth. this is ridiculous. i read the phone call transcrip transcript. the president of the united states congratulated the ukrainian president on his won, said we've been very generous to the ukraine. germany and other people ought to pay more. that's one of the reasons we are