>> it's soliciting foreign help in your campaign for reelection for president of the united states and it's something that i think people would generally find alarming. >> ukraine helped hillary clinton, so -- >> we have to separate a whole bunch of things here. the idea -- people who are -- you know, president trump had some weird messaging on this, on the one hand it's all made up and fake news, on the other hand he said he was spied on which suggest that in fact, allegations are true. rudy giuliani comes on air today and takes great that he's a political man, 7 minutes of the biggest political hitman i have ever seen. i think there's a lot of smoke and bluster on what giuliani is doing, it could all be true. if the president of the united states tried to bend national security based upon his own partisan self-interest that would be very, very bad and the people who say he's interested in corruption, that seems to be